Everyone who knows Warhammer can agree that nothing is more terrifying than the Dark Eldar,... By FAAAAR!

One can imagine the plague father laughing...

I don't think the infested would win any drawn out conflict. Short lived engagement the nids would absolutely lose. While in a war the infested may win the first engagements with the tyranids, the tyranids would ultimately win. But it would be a pyrrhic victory at best. The nid hivemind and norn queens would learn how the infested infect during the very first encounter. As both are highly attuned to the physiology of those they create. If an infection happened, they would cut off the infected individual and either kill it or let it be. And even though it is called biomass, it is bit of a misnomer. As when a planet is assimilated and consumed, the tyranid extract everything from the planet. Water, air, even the minerals and metals in the earth. All basic components to create life and organisms. Sort of similar to how Fullmetal Alchemist created human bodies, being the closest example I can think of. The last thing why they would eventually win, is that the hivemind is as petty as it is skilled in tactics and warfare. If they could adapt to counter the infected, it would take time. But even if not it would create a fleet to specifically deal with the infested. Using tactics and strategies that limit infection to zero and instead rely on long range weaponry. Ones that have been adapted to shoot shards of metal. Or rely on artillery that to bombard with acid and plasma. As there are already weapon biomorphs capable of such feats. Even emps and electrical pulses. Taking a nuke everthing from orbit sort of approach. Plus if the infested did manage to infest them in such a battle, the nids would swiftly just vapourise the infected and carry on. Overall, would be a net loss for the nids even if they did win.

I'd win against both with the power of Wisp Prime and Xoris spam

...and now I want to see the great clash here. Something like "WH 40k + Warframe + Star Wars + Star Trek + Mass Effect + Dead Space + Halo..." It could be such a freaking messed up mess. With a lot of the story dependant on who met who first, of course.

Go make it a triplet. Insert Brethren Moons here.

on the surface Tyranid seem like a more creative species with all their different form and long range bio weapon but you have to understand the amount of creativity it will take for a virus on crack to come up with the entire boy band and their single which is an absolute banger btw

yeah as soon as an opposing entity has no defense on a bacterial level it’s kind of over for them

Nurgle hasn't been the same since this came out, his salty tears landing in his cauldron and diluting his concoctions

Nurgle after taking one look at the Infestation: "Are you trying to put me out of business?"

Yeah they are that stupid... That is why the Void has so many populated derelicts...

The warframes are helminth not grey or lephantis hive strains. All can talk to one another. Not all spore infect.

Tyranids would have to find a way to weaponize the void against the infested, and by the time they even find out they have to do that, they'd already be gone

I know extremely little about Warhammer but I was convinced the Infestation had no chance. Glad to see it's not that easy.

This isn't the dangerous one. What's really dangerous would be if the Infested took over Orks. Suddenly, the hivemind has the power to alter reality to *its* perception.

So I couldn't enjoy the new war as my ps4 was dying and over heating so I skipped most of the cutscenes with the tenno. I've been debating going back to see what I missed and you just convinced me. Bravo tenno you are truly amazing

I absolutely loved this video! Could you do a video about whether the Tenno (with the Lotus and their Warframes/gear) could survive in 40k??

And infestation can consume even non organic thing

I think the tyranids have shown a much greater capacity to adapt than you give credit for. If they've evolved an ability to block out the influence of a twisted reflection of the universe then blocking the ability of the technocyte virus to influence them would be child's play

And the infestation is getting a new sibling shortly in the new expansion in december

It's a hivemind vs a hivemind, so here's what it comes down to: adaptation. We know that the Tyranids can adapt to almost anything using their storage of amalgamated mass, even the plagues of a Chaos God. But, and this is a big issue, how do you suppose they adapt to the infestation? It's a virus. Even if its hive mind cannot affect you, you can still get sick, allowing it to corrode your brain like a cancer. Alad V, Jordas, Arlo, and the Prelates are all examples of people who were infested without losing their minds, rather, their minds were bent to the allegiance of the Infestation. So the Tyranids can't simply 'not get sick', even dead Infested produce spores capable of transmitting the plague through air or water. They could try taking a sample back to their mass stores, experiment with it, try to find a vaccine. If Tenno can be immune to the infestation, why not a Tyranid? Well, the answer is that Warframes are comprised of a strain already. That's the source of their immunity. The Tyranids have no such luck, they have no means of cultivating and studying the virus at a distance like the Orokin did. Their method of 'experimentation' is to consume and repurpose, but in order to adapt to the infestation they need to expose themselves to it. And that's the issue. If they try to bring it back to their Amalgamations, it will spread, infecting EVERYTHING they've stored up. And that's not even counting the multiple strains, like the Techrot, Emissary, Mutilist, and Helminth. Even if they could adapt to a single strain of the infestation and focus on wiping it out, the other strains are just as aggressive. Complete eradication is their only weakness. The Tenno almost succeeded in destroying the Grey strain, but one Grineer scientist released the remaining samples, and suddenly an entire moon becomes a breeding pool, producing multiple advanced strains seemingly out of spite, intelligent, capable of "remembering all of its forms" and sometimes inventing new forms just for the fucking fun of it. Like Fass and Vome, mountain-sized monsters that murder each other and always revive minutes later. Finally, don't forget that the Tryanids can only consume biomass, and require biomass to refuel, breed, and adapt. The infestation, as seen on Deimos and with the Techrot and Helminth, is capable of infesting even steel, even the ground beneath you, and even electronics, and can replicate without consuming mass. Good luck against that man xD. Edit: I've read some of the other comments and realized: that even Warframes aren't immune to the Mutalist strain xD you literally have to kill an Infested Mesa in Patient Zero. If it weren't for certain... qualities, of the Tenno, I'd say it's a miracle that the Infested haven't assimilated everything in the Origin System

I think the Infestation wins for a fairly simple reason. Its not actually organic- its a type of remote controlled nanomachine with a "hive mind" based on distributed computing. In other words, it can act and manipulate itself at the nanoscale in real time- whereas tyranids are still limited by relatively static biological principles; IE their "cells", however advanced, have to be programmed *in advance* of the thing they are dealing with. A tyranid can't die to something and then have the next tyranid 2 feet away instantly adapt to it at the cellular level. Rather a bunch of nids die to stuff, and the experience of that death feeds back to the hive mind which then manipulates the DNA of the next batch before it comes out of whatever spawning pool it uses for them; which in the 40k timescale is a fast process but in truth still takes days, weeks, or even months. Hours at the absolute shortest. But an infested hivemind could physically adapt something in a matter of seconds- and in fact do do so for some "types". The only true disadvantage the infested have is that they rely on large local numbers to function. They can't beat the speed of light and so need to already have a numbers advantage in order to possess anything like intelligence, whereas the nids only need relay-creatures to connect however small or big a group they have to the hive mind in deep space which is already at galactic scale.

Sort of unrelated to the video, but do any of you think that the infestation created vome and fass to adapt a day and night cycle for an ecosystem on Deimos?

I believe tyranids have been defeated by virus bombs detonated inside a hive ship so that represents a loss scenario. Given that, the hive mind would easily be able to track infected biomass and prevent it from corrupting the source. It would be a race of how fast the tyranids could adapt before the infection reached critical mass, and this is something the tyranids are reasonably well equipped to handle. Mind control is not an option with the tyranids since that would require overpowering a god level being.

Why is Albrecht in human form and not in his Orokin form?

It's not close in the opposite direction, though. Warhammer 40k scales waaaay higher than Warframe, mostly due to the latter not having been around nearly as long. Tyranids adapt and bop, low to zero difficulty. These fuckers have units that can casually wash Warp daemons, for goodness' sake! Do a quick Google search of the Warp so you can see the shenanigans its denizens get up to.

I mean, the tyranids are in a constant war with nurgle the literal god of plagues, which uses them to test how potent his viruses and disease are. even then nurgle still considers a success if his plagues aren't adapted by the tyranids in less than one generation. Strictly speaking, those virus are also magical, so the argument of the infestation not being adaptable because its not purely biological is also pretty weak, it just sounds like "nu-uh" If its a 1v1 scenario, I think that the tyranids are more than capable of winning, but if we consider other 40k factions would have no way to counter the infestation then there is no way the tyranids would be able to defeat the other factions (or just the necrons) "focusing" on them at once under a hive mind

Question: is the technocyte based on the flood from halo?

You should’ve chose the flood from halo.

Ehhhh i feel this is kinda biased but hay you wanna take a whole video to say "haa the tyranids loose" its you Even if your insane enough to ignore hundreds of worse things already in warhammer but be my guest just show your preference

Personal Theory: A tendril or two of the great devourer gets subsumed under the infestation, but with the knowledge it receives from its hosts it starts *purposely* adapting the technocyte into itself. Worse still, the infestation manages to infect the tyranids but the shadow in the warp is powerful enough psionically to assume command even of its technocyte infested army and begins to command the extreme mutation of whatever strains dare to infect its shells.

even nurgel cant beat this infestation

The tyranids make a gigantic mistake of consuming any strain, if they consume technocyte and or helminth they kinda buff themselves, if it's any other strain their dead, technocyte would give their bodies metal armor and weapons, helminth would allow for subsuming and void powers aka abilities if they can control it

That's pretty fair, it's just a fundamental difference of how they function. The infestation consumes everything, the organic, the inorganic, even the very ground on which you stand, and the ships you use to run away are all a potential host to the infestation. The infestation was the answer to the Sentient threat, machines who gained sentience from extra-dimensional travel, and even then the Orokin couldn't control the infested, only reign it in.

I’d have to say that the tyrannids would probably just adapt to the infestation honestly, or worse case scenario, they unify

hmm what about flood vs infestation?

The scary part? The Tenno would still look at this and go "I hate mondays."