Thank you both for being guests on Tarvould's Test. Your presence brought a lot to the show as a whole, and thank you for the rousing endorsement. You were wonderful guests. I am sorry I thought Age of Empires 2 was more interesting in my head than it is in reality. Please never stop grilling me over mythology. I deserve it. Also if you ever need a third voice, put me in coach.

Timestamps by Potato, thank you Potato!: 0:00 Stream starts 5:53 Super Smash Bros. hero shooter by Eyesh docs.google.com/document/d/1s42Qf5TTOGvnsQz7_Z3531TcZ3O8uq05ZuohOmQimYg/edit 41:07 Smash Bros. Showdown by Scrump docs.google.com/document/d/1R5Y6bO8YKxngPawgMVOLYLF-t_83dkG9mzjSv20AWoI/edit 42:33 More Minion Integration for Bowser by Frek docs.google.com/document/d/1jje3PCt--VpeRWwLVtFCvijLtfhEFDzrrRYJjvz54VY/edit 43:12 Super Smash Bros. Fusion by Alleycat docs.google.com/document/d/1jje3PCt--VpeRWwLVtFCvijLtfhEFDzrrRYJjvz54VY/edit 48:12 Super Smash Bros. Z by Polychorus docs.google.com/document/d/1RvndgUFKlgtsxGBWzqm4NNkakgcSEuNSf1mZv8YVxts/edit 1:25:00 Smash Reboot Ideas by Matthew Long docs.google.com/document/d/16KEKQnro2-RA-SJp1iOzORfp4m8h1pv3whFXwUloyWA/edit 1:32:00 Duke Bros. by Gavinski + RR ideas by other SmashWorks people docs.google.com/document/d/1BDE81f1hzIpOBLvcPugH5gji3EQtojED6b6fCoeR2CU/edit

Timestamps by Potato, thank you Potato! 0:00 Stream starts 2:45 What if the characters in the Smash roster swapped their genre of origin? by Arrow docs.google.com/document/d/15pWVVNpPOEi7Ruv7yAYMKvXsrvebKMqsVgx8JN6Ljkg/edit 11:58 New Super Smash Bros. by FazDude docs.google.com/document/d/1WRIdQXt0-Qu5kTCXvH_bWKvIkyE7z6ZOvwXhrNzgeMY/edit 47:02 Super Smash Bros. Mecha by Jean Claudius docs.google.com/document/d/1RRQV5zyBkuL7m2Ne5cZjlSTxxf-5B52S1T6PNTLDKFQ/edit 50:50 Super Smash Bros. Battle Royale by Cheez Balls docs.google.com/document/d/12udDcjMFioHEsEG8jYBWJSs8Fa6dRFzdLLvYVaHCICM/edit 1:00:22 New Smash Bros. Concept by TomROM docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MAZfV0dK17sgJUiGqWcVqu5K3TJ8RUjFGcrTld8Kmug/edit 1:24:24 Super Smash Brothers RPG by Willi docs.google.com/document/d/10an1DEaj3i_3XtgoU7Sew7gVsXO8nstJdnKmDAevgO4/edit 1:29:40 Super Smash Boss by King docs.google.com/document/d/1DKL62yDhunurp9CAonYHb149_k8L1d8Bu2R8WmyI_Uo/edit 1:42:36 VS Smash by Jocgginsa docs.google.com/document/d/1u2HvqWWYRLh3lEKqoplhlvVUykpcSwmSlL1n0VOmxUg/edit

Great championship show Pyrr! You're still a champion! 🏆

What if China invested like $500,000 just to make Chun-Li the best character in every game.

I implore you to read Sylveon's Sun Pokedex entry. I find it kinda neat.

I will now feed watchtime because even if I don't like this format this channel is underrated.

Spinda look better as 3D models, the constant teetering of their idle animation is superior to the momentary teetering they had in sprite form.

Timestamps! 0:00 - Intro 3:12 - Tarvould's Test (Which you should all watch!) GAME DISCUSSION 10:20 - Pokemon Snap (Pyrr) 14:34 - Urban Champion (Pyrr) 17:50 - Nightmare Kart (Pyrr) 23:33 - Zelda Four Swords (Pyrr) 27:35 - PacMan Championship Edition DX+ (Pyrr) 31:30 - Stormgate (Duke) 36:52 - Umineko (Duke) 41:09 - XCOM 2/Starcraft 2 (Duke) 42:52 - FTL (Duke) 48:21 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (Pyrr) 53:00 - Paranormasight: The Seven Mysteries of the Honjo (Pyrr) 57:45 - Ice Climber (Pyrr) 1:05:00 - VGM Quiz (Both) 1:14:11 - Nintendo World Championships NES Edition (Pyrr) 1:24:41 - Age of Mythology (Duke) 1:32:25 - We Love Katamari + Royal Reverie (Pyrr) 1:40:57 - Pikmin 4 (Duke) 1:54:40 - Fire Emblem 7 (Pyrr) FUTURE SIGHT 2:13:26 - Nintendo Direct News 2:37:20 - Adobe Sued 2:38:55 - Guilty Gear Anime, Sonic Meme Eternally Preserved 2:42:13 - VTubers save Baseball. No, really. 2:48:10 - Chibi Robo Successor 2:50:28 - Dragon Quest Metal Slime Roomba 2:52:00 - EVO 2024 3:13:55 - Mario and Sonic at the Olympics, killed by NFTs 3:18:16 - Braid Anniversary happened, no one bought it 3:21:00 - Romhacking.net and Gameinformer are dead 3:26:45 - August Games 3:28:32 - What we're working on BONUS STAGE 3:38:30 - Pyrr's Bonus Stage 3:50:25 - Duke's Bonus Stage COMMENT CODECS 4:03:41 - Comments run til end

I cannot believe that Duke just burst in laughter when Pyrr just went in-depth with Hololive Night, funniest part of the stream right there. And for someone who lives in the same state as the Brewers, I feel embarrassed… AND YET, I WANT A HOLOLIVE NIGHT OF OUR OWN!

#DDGComment what is a game that you didn’t like as a kid but you now understand and like/love/appreciate now as an adult. Also list some games that went the other way and you started to dislike more as you grew up.

Glad to see that Duke has been inducted into the cult of tomboy Lois.

I wish it was more fantastical. Something about Zelda summoning Moblins doesn't sit right with me.

You mentioning how quite a few villains accomplish what they want in their final smash, along with giving Bowser's final smash to Ganondorf, gave me an interesting idea for a new Bowser final smash. A wedding altar suddenly appears, with a captive Princess Peach on it. (if Peach is in the match, replace her with Pauline or something idk.) The two are married by a Koopa Troopa officiator, only for the Chaos Heart to appear above them and create the Void, which begins to suck up anyone nearby, doing massive damage to anyone it catches. (During this, Bowser would also be panicking.)

23:43 Don’t you dare talk about my favorite series like that! (Although I do admit that dedede is a bit of a weak point in the lore because of him being mind controlled or possessed like half of the time and that’s why he’s evil which is definitely kinda stupid BUT THE LORE STILL IS REALLY GOOD)

that thumbnail is... questionable...

I think some of the Pokédex entries are written by the 10 year old that catches them cause what joker of a scientist is telling me Magikarp can jump over mountains

I remember watching this a long time ago. This video is an absolute masterpiece and i love the explanations and your story.

Ok, this so feels like a character that I would want to play, to get really really good at it and just cause pure chaos for everyone. I would be hilarious to just get rayman’s limbs, before just spamming magic punches.

The second you said carbuncle I knew what was coming and shouted NOOOO

I was looking at Lapras during the Aurorus section and Lapras looks too smooth as a 3D model too. These two really do look best as sprites

Rip corrin

There's a notoriously weird moment in X&Y where you and your friends visit a house, listen to a ghost story, and then leave, and it never comes up again. The camera moves in a snakelike fashion around the room during the ghost story, looking down on your character from the rafters, and the story ends with a person in a dark place encountering a "horde of faceless men." X&Y introduced horde battles, where you fight 5 enemies at once. Zygarde snake form, if you turn off the lights, has 10 glowing dots in the placement of eyes on 5 stalks on its back. I love what this adds to Zygarde as a pokemon.

I didn't feel much for Xerneas upon first seeing it, but I keep observing more and more cool details and it has become my favorite legendary Pokemon. I think Xerneas is just an actual successful version of what Studio Ghibli tried to do with Yakul in Princess Mononoke. I love that its cocoon form is just a tree. I love that its pupils are x-shaped, which really contributes to the unknowable fae spirit vibe.

A quick question, you said frequently that you dislike some of the color choices because they look too simple and they would make the Pokémon being a 3D model easier. If a future Pokémon game (at this rate probably in 20 years) gave every Pokémon more detailed models with high quality textures that really made most Pokémon look believable (in a good way) would you think that would enhance these designs more or detract even more?

i love how all of these pokemon streams have the rhyming six-the-musical-style quotes in the thumbnails, they're very fun

I feel like whiffing a grab should still have have Dark Matter leave an ally's body. Not a summoned host though, just so it can leave an ally's body at will without killing them.

Ridley’s main problem isn’t his moveset, it’s how he’s balanced. People wanted to play a big flying dragon that runs a train over foes, and instead got a weirdly light, grounded, precise character. He’s balanced like a gimmick character without a gimmick.

btw my doc is finished just in case you didn't read the chat p.s. pls read it took forever to make, at least make a hast highlight pls (im just asking, you dont actually have to)

I love her to. I wanted and HOPE she was some of the DLC character tbh in Smash but nop.....

G O O E Y

Took them way too long to make a non CDI The Legend of Link game.

I personally wouldn’t change much about Smash game genre wise. Probably try introducing some new mechanics that stand out like a super meter. While also take the direction of it being a celebration of Video Game history. No matter how it’s done or who represents the series. I could go with the most basic choice per series, or go with a crazier choice that represents more of what the franchise is about, or what unique gameplay mechanics there could be for the character.

1:42:45 unfortauntley, Like Garrosh is intersting in seeming like a typical Tyrant yet being more than that, like actually gives a shit about his community and has good reasons to hate the allience, he is Physically powerful but also intelliegient. However from what I hear they removed that.

1:42:14 I hate this stuff aswell, while atleast it's own character role that can actually make use of it compared to LOL's Kog'ma, fundemtally it's horrible because it's designed to reward being bad, doesn't enhance what you do it just excuses where you fail.

1:41:44 this is the reason you need to make defense interactive or dumb shit like this occurs more commonly, you didn't really earn that low HP survival because your Passive made up for your incomeptence instead of you enhancing it. Chormie generally well earned kill was stolen because you had free extra stats from doing what you already do, no enhancing what you do by your own input.

something i think would be a good idea is letting him grab a player when he has a hand or two available, and while he does he can walk around the stage or rotate to a better place, as a trade off you could just have him be the first character in smash that CANT throw grabbed players

1:32:27 that would suggest you deal more damage, not take thats how it works. it's the more damage you've taken the more armor you gain for free.

1:32:18 learning in game design that any mechanic should have as much interaction as possible, it's why I hate Mobile Legends in my soul, this Passive isn't something Garrosh needs to think at all about or interact with, for the enemy to counter it they also don't really think much about, thats the problem so it just results in his kit making up for a badly designed ability. How about instead: Garros Gains ability to Reduce the damage of 3 attacks, which after wards it breaks and goes on cooldown where he drops his Tusks. Picking it up heals him and reduces the cooldown while temporaly giving armor for 4 seconds. Enemies can step over the tusks to break them, however Garrosh can break it himself by using his abilities like Groundbreaker to shatter it dealing damage around it and slow, knock enemies from the source if you his the sweetspot, throwing an enemy on it to have them be stunned and breaking it with his Bloodthrirst will heal him and grant him Damage increase. He can grant allies the collection affect if he throws them on it and it will Slightly reduce his cooldown. this form of defense encourges Garrosh with on demendand decision making and play pointential as he has play to mind games with his enemies, ontop of that it combining with his abilities has it matter for them. I took inspiration from an also well designed defensive Passive of Reworked Mundo from LOL however there it merely blocks a hard CC effect once, picking it up heals Mundo the issue I have is it doesn't really matter for the Kit at all. His cleaver projectile which is too bullmurky, doesn't do anything with it working with the concept of an enemy risking breaking it, Like it doesn't cause it to burst if Mundo is willing to sacrefice single instance CC Immunity for damage output, Or his Horrible Shock aborbing it, gaining it at the cost of an ability usage, with his E he could've target it to launch it for a Stun if he wanted more CC at the cost of what I said for the Cleaver. HIs ultimate doing nothing with it is so sad, Like maybe additionally it would've applied two canisters instead to encourage what I said, or make the caninster drop apply Mundo treatement, a unique effect that cause enemies effect to heal mundo for a portion of their own healing.

Cmon tho… it’s Nintendo… we KNOW peach is getting in.

1:23:29 I agree thats a fundemtanlly broken ability, does anything in her kit counter this? to my knowlegde no, How about this: due to being a Time mage she gains Less EXP her team, compared to team with constitent EXP gain with five members her having it earlier but at the cost of lesser power for her teammates creates a SIphoyin that completely removes the reason why Levels are shared. Now realising how bad of idea that is she just should have that removed and replaced with something less agreeious like, after 3 ability casts she can recast the last ability used encourging her to pay attention to what happend in time while accessing her options. not too agressious since it's only what she used before so she has to plan out the future aswell, this is so much better than what I came up with, keeps with the theme while actually being fair and enjoyable to keep track of.

1:14:42 it doesn't priotize champions, Like 9/10 times that is it's purpose, man no wander he's considered garbage.

1:14:08 this is why I do agree in atleast learning ability names, as that way we can both comprehend what was mentioned or easily research while also not being bombarded with information that isn't neccerary, I have no idea what "shift" means in the games context so I miss out on whats so exciting, and this isn't when you figure out thing since that's too vauge people can change their Key bindings so it takes too much time to figure it out.

1:13:19 that isn't inhertly wrong, it's more than there is so many of them, most of them should be from the series not originals since thats what people likely come here from, I see you there. BUt originals aren't bad aslong as they don't get in the way of who already earned their spotlight, the two original Champions made for the game aren't taking overspace over what 50 of the series added in, though I do dislike how easily missed they are since their lore is so tied to the game and the game being basically ingored a character I personally Like in Opheria is just Abondaned which just sucks so much.

1:10:53 yeah many Mobas fail to accurately catogirize what each champion does, probius isn't an assasin at all, he's a battlemage who focuses on area denial, kael'thas is a BurstMage focused on busting his opponents as quickly as possible from range, which would be technically accurate to the naming convention until you realise he unlike an assasin doesn't have to at risk to hurt himself while bursting opponents meaning he isn't an assasin, he's a mage which is what I said. This badly detracts from gameplay as players can't tell what a character is mainly about from that description, OW has the hole some tanks aren't even tanks, supports aren't even supports as they usually just lean into DPS with Supportive capabilities, TF2 didn't adapt to it's characters objective with Pick, Power and Support not defense, offense and Support as it isn't really specific on what that means. Though again like TF2 Blizzard isn't really gonna fix that.

55:41 again due a belief I agree with, there's a terrible Norm of bad visual design, as ofcourse you can't, How an anyone see that? Oh right Blizzard designed it. TF2 does a great job using it's themes and gameplay together in even it's visual design for it, Zanta Jesus, "TF2: A Discitive lack of team Reconigition" :kzbin.info/www/bejne/boOkd2BrarRlY80si=vn8rxdrrRaIZKt2W

48:47-48:49 look at the fog, they might be in a pickle here, BUt OMCHO! FILCRUM! WHAT! WAS! THAT?!!?!

Ridley is like waluigi.... More a meme then a real desire to play as them

I haven't played Pikmin, but from what I understand, Olimar's playstyle in Smash would fit Louie a lot more.

this need more respect