We would love that, thanks so much!!! Send here to help develop new tests! Rare Genetics Inc P.O. Box 1368 Christiansburg, VA 24068

Yes, for sure!!!

That’s awesome, congrats!!!

Don’t know for sure yet, send us Raven sheds and we will figure it out for sure!

Thanks! And glad to hear the new tests will be helpful! We are still working on Monarch. Hopefully it won’t be much longer 🤞🤞

@@raregeneticsinc I also cannot wait to have Monarch test! Finger crossed that it will work smoothly! (Magdalena @ Focus On The Ball Pythons)

Yes, for sure, we can use them all!!! Right now we are finishing up those tests, so we need to validate that they work well, so having a variety of combos will be perfect! 🙏🙌

From other species with mutations in this same gene, we know that this is a common occurrence because this gene plays a part in melanocytes moving along with nerve cells along the neural crest during embryonic development. So it is very common for mutations in genes like this to also cause neurological problems. And really from breeding I think we have a pretty clear understanding which morphs are likely to have these problems. But an easy way to get a good idea for the spider complex is go on Morph Market and look up each spider complex morph and any that have supers available, it is much less likely there will be any neurological problems. But the ones that don’t have supers available are the ones more prone to neurological problems. And you can also reach out to people producing them and ask them about their breeding stock and experience with spider complex morphs. For sure some awesome morph in the spider complex!!!

@@raregeneticsinc I’ve heard even blackhead, being the most apparent “stable” morph in the complex can still wobble in super form…. Plus some people don’t seem to care much about wobble and will produce animals with it and in super form reguardless of impacts on the animal because it looks cool (heck I’ve heard this just about spider). I have heard from some breeders, including prominent ones that all of the complex can be prone to wobble issues (like at a higher rate than incubation issues or regular defect occurrences). I’ve also heard people claim that none of the spider, champagne or hgw animals don’t ever wobble and have never produced animals with a wobble to any degree which is hard to believe. It’s something I’m happy to avoid til science was there to give actual information and this feels like the closest I’ve gotten so far 😅 I’m also curious for the 8ball and BEL complex with kinking/duckbilling and eye issues. I’ve heard nothing concrete on why the 8ball complex has issues besides that it does, and that BEL\high white on the face have some sort of issue with the basement of the eye not getting something causing deformities (trying to find it on the mm forum thread but not having luck). I’d really like some actually backed up information to get out on exactly what causes these things to happen. I’ve just seen too many breeders shrug about these issues stating the animal is pretty so it’s worth it for me to trust much of what’s out there.

@@dragonrulr4yes, thank goodness that we do have some interest in academics about reptile color and pattern and defects. There have been some nice papers about the spider morph and what that does physiologically to the animals. Hopefully over time there will be more papers like that for other reptile morphs! Projects like that take a lot of time and money to do properly, so it takes awhile. But hopefully with more excitement about reptile genetic testing we will also see more studies on defects!

Yes, I’ll have to run your super raven. That would be good to see! And if it is its own mutation, we should be able to find it relatively quickly…but would have to wait to get whole genome data back. But we would love to find that one too if it is indeed its own unique mutation. We shall see! Anyone else with Raven, send it in and we will figure out Raven!!!

@@raregeneticsinc My gut says it’s the same gene. Please LMK if it turns out to be chocolate, that might change my plans a little bit.

@@TLBreptilesoh we will for sure post everywhere once we figure that out! Hopefully won’t take too long, but we shall see!

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We are working on it!

We are for sure all working on it…it’s a complicated one. Hopefully we are close 🤞🤞

@raregeneticsinc can't wait. Hoping it's available sooner rather then later. 🙏

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I wish I could give more concrete answers for paint, but all I can say is we have made progress, but don’t have a working test yet. I’m hoping it won’t take too much longer…but we never know until it pops out clean!

@@raregeneticsinc ty for getting back to me

Right on, we look forward to running his shed for you!!!

You got it! 🤘🙌

Will do, thanks!!!

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We are working on Mahogany, will hopefully have it before too long! Time will tell…🤞🤞for us!!!

@raregeneticsinc 🤞🤞 for all the things lol thanks for what y'all do!

We would happily work on it, but we would need many more sheds!

Like how many? I have alot of weirdo

@@mrmouse-ol9pwhow many do you have that you believe are homozygous for weirdo?

For sure! Hopefully over time there will be more options for people in all countries, several of us are working on it!

Me too!!!

Hopefully coming soon, keep your fingers crossed for us!!!

That’s awesome to hit twins on your first clutch! Congrats!!!

We got a couple of those!!! More details next week!

@@raregeneticsinc awesome! I’m looking forward to it!

You bet!!!

Believe me, we are working on it!!!

@@raregeneticsincwe’ve got a bakers dozen for ya

@@raregeneticsinc general eta? Maybe beginning of 25’?🤞

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Not sure. Lece has been a tough one, but we are working on it. Hopefully will have it sometime in the next few months, but it won’t be anytime in the immediate future.

You bet, and thanks for all you have going on for the community!!!

@raregeneticsinc Me and the whole RWO are just trying to make a difference. We will continue to try to build a bigger better community that supports USARK and USARK FLORIDA

Right on, I had no idea!!!

@raregeneticsinc alot of people don't. I mean I do call my show The Let Me Know Show so it's easily confused

That's so neat

We are working on that one now, so we hope so! But each morph test is its own journey, so we shall see!

Omg that’s amazing thanks for letting me know. I’m looking forward to seeing that happen.

Glad to hear it! I hope to make it to Daytona next year (this is Ben), sounds like I am missing out!

Not yet. Both are being very difficult. Hopefully will get them before too long 🤞🤞

You bet, and look forward to meeting you in person at Tinley!!!

Yes! Ben will be there walking around talking to everyone he can! You plan to be there then?

I guess I should say Ben will be at the Charlotte one, we won’t be able to make Colorado this year. Will you be at the Charlotte one?

We for sure need more arroyo sheds to be able to work on that morph!

Thanks so much!!!

Thanks Bud!