I get it. I do and this is a wonderful ideology to pursue. But it is not reality. The venue business is not easy. At the time I was working in it something like 80% of venues shut down within 3 years. It's really hard to keep a venue going. And bands value is not a set in stone thing. Like anytime I touch a pair of drumsticks I get a certain amount of money. That isn't going to happen. When you said a band could easily flip it around on a venue and say because you are new... You are saying that as if it doesn't happen. It totally happens all the time. I was hung up on by hundreds of booking agents, because as soon as they heard the word "new" or asked how long have we been in business. They would hang up on me immediately because they knew we weren't going to have a good enough crowd for an established artist. And they were 100% correct. We had so many artists who were selling 1,000 tickets consistently every night, and they'd come to our venue and we'd sell 250 tickets. Not only is it the pay that is unfortunate, but these things get tracked and now the artist has a smudge on their record and it looks like they can't sell tickets. Venues/Bands are like the housing market. You can put a house on the market for any price you like but that doesn't mean it's worth the amount you're putting out there. Just like my friend I stated in the video. He said they needed a certain amount because they all had music degrees... well their music degrees don't mean anything in that situation. And that's the true factor, the situation. If you are hiring a band for a party. Yes pay them for that. But if you are a venue and they aren't going to bring in enough people to even cover the cost of them playing... which means the venue has to pay extra to advertise it. And now the cost is even higher. It's a vicious cycle. Ending in losing money. Which could at the end of the day result in the venue closing down. Once again, I truly truly understand the desire to say everyone should get paid. But bands are not created equal. And the band that is willing to work harder, vs the band who demands more money for less work will end up in two different places after 5 years.

Thank you so much

@@fgerv is this for a school?

@charlieklein8641 yeah, and all these years later it was good experience to make me a better employee. But as it made me more organized, careful with my words, cover my tracks when I'm doing work. It has been good for me. I see lots of other people I've worked with who don't do these things. Buttttttttttt..... that guy is still a horrible person lol. So even though I grew, he is still an abusive type of person. Which is sad.

@MrSpetten it's just a normal bass drum head. It's one I had sitting around that was used

I used the same solution throughout the whole process. From what I saw, I don't believe changing each day would benefit it in any way over the same stuff. (Also save on money) I did it honestly two different ways. The saxophone I was meticulous about taking it out each day and soaking it in hot water (which was a real challenge at that time, apartment, 4 minutes of hot water) wiping it down and then putting it back in. The trumpet. i just left it in for like a week and pulled it out at the end and gave it a hot bath and wiped it down. The saxophone I think looks nicer, but it also I think is just the metal itself.

@@benmarkus3675 my pleasure!

I love it!

Nice! I like it

I did 7 days

Just go for it man, As you probably already know nothing is going to make you better more than getting your hands dirty. First few cadences I wrote were terrible, but now I can pop out consistent cadences if need be. Some are better than others but this at least gives an idea

@@sodapopizze8367 just start small. Keep your cost low and try to build up a following with local bands and make sure you have a market of people who want to come to shows.

@@snackattack1600 my pleasure! Hope it sounds great. If you put it online send a link. I'd love to hear it

@@joetroutt7425 no I don't have a grinder

@@drumyogi9281 I totally get people who want to do it for a living, but unless you are somewhere that has a music scene... it's not gonna happen most likely

Just curious because someone I worked with I agreed for them to be paid 700 however it was several states away from where they were from, which if I remember correctly resulted in dates to/from also. Never had an artist complain about the talent fees I was getting but kept having promoters end up canceling and more often then not they didn't have much or any prior experience promoting. Some promoters, integrity wise I was pretty confident didn't need a contract, those I feel that way towards...never canceled. When agreeing to that though originally was suppose to be a one off...given that's what was being offered plus the travel...had no issue with it. If you were a local venue/promoter and they couldn't even bring in that I wouldn't feel right agreeing.

@@wertyghjkl-fc3dx what do you mean by you had an 80%+?

@@caseydoremus5324 By that I mean take a 10 day tour. I contact 10 promoters, they all show interest...8 of the 10 I would get the terms that I was looking for whereas the other 2 of 10...either I would have to agree to their counter or either continue negotiating with a different promoter from the same area or find a new contact. If not, either it turns into a door deal with no talent fee or an off day.

@@caseydoremus5324 Meaning 8 out of 10 able to get terms I felt were fair without having to negotiate with a different promoter.

@@caseydoremus5324 8 of 10 shows able to get terms I felt were fair, the other 2 of 10 having to accept a counter or continue negotiating with other promoters. Overall the first few tours, more so helping bands find shows. One of the first only roughly 45% of dates had shows whereas the last several I did 95%, where the 5% remaining had preplanned possibility of off dates that could be filled.

@@davidmcaninch4714 I will say I think it's an interesting subject. When it comes to bands, yes merchandising is crucial. But if as a venue, it can be a giant waste of money depending on how it operates. If you are a destination spot. Like you are open every weekend and people just go because they love the venue awesome. But my venue was only open for concerts. So no one was there because of the venue. It was for the band. So when we have a competing merch table it actually pissed off some bands. And they'd lay someone to man the booth all night and we sold close to nothing every night

@@DAVIDBLACOE greetings! That's so cool. It's amazing to me that I get to interact with people in other countries

Nope, at least I've never had any issues

My pleasure I hope it helps

That's awesome! I hope they do. It's really a great learning experience to get to put music out there and get feed back from people.

Looking forward to hearing more about what you got going on Chaez! Please talking to you the other day

If you've never promoted in the past. To be frank, you're gonna lose every dime to your name if you try to pull this off from the start. I've seen if happen time after time. It's like a kid learning to play guitar. You can't start with Eruption by Van Halen. You have to learn a G chord first. Or at least how to play a couple strings and get your placement correct on the neck. Those type of events have to start small. Start with local acts. Don't try and grab Jellyroll or some giant name year one. You'll probably lose all your money, and if the event is a disaster your looking at lawsuits up the rear. So you have to start out small. Get comfortable running events. And as you go you can build up to a festival. Also most of those people who run festivals have the names because they've built relationships with them for years and years. If you have been doing it awhile that is a different story.

Thank you!

link in the description

Best advice I can say is branch out. Comic Con Events, comedians, whatever. Just get things in your venue and keep money flowing. The worst thing to see is a venue vacant on a friday night. Where is the venue located?

Honestly... it's crazy how a piece of wood... cork... and some fabric costs $80+

My pleasure! I'm glad it helped

Thank you for the comment! I really appreciate it! I'm glad it helped!

Same a bari sax trying to write percussion

it's not paint

I'm glad it helped!

Of course!

There are some products out there that help the springs move better. I honestly can't even think how many times my pedals swing if I let go of them. Its all a feel thing.

Thank you!

My pleasure. I'm glad it helped!