The answer is yes. Thanks for the question and the feedback. BBB 👍

Thanks for comment, and we totally agree. BBB 👍

Thanks for your feedback. Keep enjoying the bike 👍. BBB

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Many thanks for the feedback, enjoy your bike 👍. BBB

That's progress unfortunately. It's the same with phones. You have got a lovely, fast bike 👍. BBB

​@@BigBearBikesDisagree. That's not progress, that profiteering, and using technology advancements as the seductive bait. So many are mesmerised by technology. More advanced phones and computers are also a profiteering scam. The only "advancements" for the latter two are, faster + more storage..and many believe the social conditioning, that going faster + holding more data IS an advancement. Manuacturing heirarchy have known, since Edward Bernays got involved decades ago, that many will buy nearly anything if it's marketed in a way that bypasses the rational and targets the emotional. Currently, the primary focus of many in the bike industry is weight reduction, because racing\competition remains the primary means of advertising...resulting in people experiencing advertising channels (intentional or not) like yours, hilighting a new model that's, whoopdie frickin' doo, 320g lighter than the previous model. I think those that are compelled to want to be better than others, or those that think technology is perfect and can never be a bad thing, will continue to buy the lighter rigs and parts...even though, as one example, there's more and more people publicly sharing how their shimano hollowtech cranks are breaking due to no reasonable structural integrity, and how Shimano, last I looked, still won't admit the design flaw. What will the bike industry do to make money when they can no longer reduce weight of bikes and parts, because too little weight already causes cranks to break and chains to fail or have a shorter life span due to 11-12 speed gearing. When shimano created a crank that easily breaks due to lack of structural intergrity, because the heirarchy are so obsessed with weight reduction as their latest cash cow, I think it reasonable to consider some folks would not call that progress.

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Agree, much much cheaper. New technology, it always starts expensive, then gradually comes down in price. Thanks BBB 👍.

Hi, we would advise seeking the expert advice of a good Trek Bikes Dealer, and they should be able to get your sizing and other requirements spot on. Thanks BBB 👍.

​@@BigBearBikestried that already tried the Giant Roam 3 S little clearance also tried the M same thing also tried the trek Verve, Marlin also the same. They did said I'm between sizes S and M. Tried three bike shop locations all same outcome.

Hi 170mm is almost 7 inches, which is a lot for a bike. It can take you down the steepest and roughest hills. Thanks BBB 👍.

​@BigBearBikes are you for real dood ,I & everyone else knows what 170mm of travel is that's the point I'm making you think everyone is stupid😂

@@user-tr8dl4fb3q Sorry, we try to make our content accessible to all riders, and potential riders, for all types of bikes. Lots of our customers wouldn't know anything about 'travel'. Thanks BBB.

@@BigBearBikes hard to believe someone is going to spend thousands of dollars on something they know nothing about

The smaller frame sizes, XXS with 26" wheels and the XS & SM with 27.5" wheels have dropped too tubes to give smaller riders, a lower stand over height for more rider confidence & safety. Thanks BBB 👍

Yes it has a softlock facility. Thanks BBB 👍

@@BigBearBikeshow do you lock them out? Or at what part of the video is that covered? Sorry for the questions and thanks in advance

​@@salvadorduarte7914It's part of the Damping control.

Sorry just Santa Cruz, Trek & Haibike here. Thanks BBB 👍.

Santa cruz bikes all look the same

@@ericochoa5784 they didn't used to

Hi, Santa Cruz bikes are designed with their carbon frame and suspension platform to all have a family look - just like the Porsche family of cars do. Thanks BBB 👍

Hi, the Santa Cruz range of bikes with their carbon frames and suspension platform are all designed to look similar, as a family of bikes - just like the Porsche family of cars. Thanks BBB 👍

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But which is faster or nicer to ride? How much does Aero, Disc Brakes, Wide Tyres and the other changes help? Thanks BBB 👍

@@BigBearBikes mine is,Aero’s a joke, disc brakes overkill,fat tyres slow

​@@Tarmaccyclocross We will have to agree to disagree 👍. All the, BBB

All the weight is in the Cranks...

We can't disagree with that 👍. Thanks BBB

Many thanks for the comment. We've started to put some miles on the SL, starting last Sunday, with a hilly, 90 miler. It had an excellent balance of abilities at its price point. The handling was very confidence inspiring, you could feel the aero benefit at high speed, the frame compliance & comfort was excellent and the bike climbed well. Please seek one out yourself for a test ride. Thanks BBB 👍

Yes it does.. Thank BBB 👍

@@davidbeeley163 thats great as i couldn't find any info if there was any standard accessories, so presumably you just need to buy are Garmin mount that fixes to that?

Yes it does 👍.

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Sorry, we have to disagree. The Pros wouldn't ride it unless the performance was as good or better. They have short careers and a win can be life changing for them. The overall package is improved. Once you check out the bike 'in the flesh' you'll be impressed. All the best, BBB 👍.

​@@BigBearBikes your right makes sense. If I were a pro I would also quit my contract and job if I don't like it ... And risk not being hired by anyone else because no one wants a rider who won't be a brand ambassador... Yeah il give up my dream to say this bike is trash

@@omarkreidieh3623 Let us know what you think when you've ridden the Gen 8 Madone. We found its a great blend of low weight, aero efficicency, light weight, comfort & stiffness, and interesting looks. All the best, BBB.

@@BigBearBikes lol.

From Trek's spec sheet - It’s weight in size ML is 8.16 kg / 17.99 lbs (with TLR sealant, not tubes). Thanks BBB 👍

From Trek's spec sheet - It’s weight in size ML is 8.16 kg / 17.99 lbs (with TLR sealant, not tubes). Thanks BBB 👍

Thanks for the feedback, and we will have to agree to disagree 👍. BBB

@@BigBearBikes OK... I would like to know exactly why this bike is a game changer?

To discuss delivery options, please email us at [email protected]. Thanks BBB 👍

What kind of robotic non answer is that?

It comes partly setup from the factory in a bike box with the handlebars flapping about so there would be enough slack for you to pack it in the same way

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Agree, and an easy change. Thanks for the feedback. BBB 👍

Thanks for comment. BBB

Thanks for the feedback, let's wait and see.... 👍

Thanks for sharing and keep enjoying the bike. All the best, BBB 👍

Thanks for the feedback 👍. BBB

Thanks for the information. BBB 👍

A medium is listed by Trek at 17.6kg / 38.8lbs. Thanks BBB 👍

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Hi, yes they can, and also they can be charged in the bike. Thanks BBB 👍

Hi, the main differences are the move to the larger 750kwh battery from the 620 kwh. Also the Bosch Smart system and tweaks to the frame geometry. Please call into our Pickering showroom for a test ride. Thanks BBB 👍

Hi & yes. Trek quote 300 lbs, as a combined weight of rider, cargo & bike. Thanks BBB 👍.

@@BigBearBikes But that seems a safety requirememt rather than a usability one. I meant the weight limit for an expected performance in terms of what is advertized and featured.

I'm 6'2, 220 lbs and ride a Fuel Exe. I can ascend 2800' vertical on Turbo, 20+ mi roundtrip and still have 10% battery remaining, no range extender. I bought it because it's very stealthy and quiet. It's the most fun I've ever had on bike. I can climb anything and am limited only by traction, always have plenty of power.

@@skyoung419z Many thanks for the fedback, great info. All the best BBB.

@@skyoung419zThanks. Really valuable feedback. I am just concerned about the performance/consumption riding on techy/rocky uphills. You just need to see which trails are the ones used for these category advertisments.

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Glad we could help. Thanks BBB 👍.

Thanks for your feedback which we feel is very conservative but every rides differently. All the best, BBB 👍

Understand. In the UK the top speed when assisted by the motor is just over 15 mph or 25kph. This works well in the UK. Thanks BBB 👍.

Nice 👍. Thanks BBB

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Hi Paul, please call us, or drop into our Pickering showroom and we can discuss & test ride. All the best, BBB 👍

Please give us a call on 01751 474220, or call into our Pickering showroom for best advice. All the best, BBB 👍.