Ah yes. EU West HEMA finally starts to use olympic fencing methtodology same as EU East. The circle is almost complete 😉
@FedericoMalagutti55 минут бұрын
Admittedly, I use a mixture of various training methodologies since 2020/21 more or less ;-)
@xPyrielx24 минут бұрын
I mean... It is completely fine. Olympic fencing methodology is superb and should be exploited as much as possibile. Then we can add our own HEMA layer to it to fulfill whatever we need to.
@FedericoMalagutti14 минут бұрын
@@xPyrielx definitely, I agree with you
@Zodd832 сағат бұрын
Wonderful to see the step-by-step!
@ondrejh5713 сағат бұрын
Thanks for a good video! I have a very similiar view and will send it to people for learning.
@LinuxNavigatorКүн бұрын
What is this shingo?
@wolvenedvard3049Күн бұрын
La mia spada medievale preferita, anche se preferisco la Carolingia/Vichinga, con un pomolo più grande e triangolare o a "conchiglia".
@edwinpoonКүн бұрын
My HEMA school has what we call BashFit.
@FedericoMalaguttiКүн бұрын
I can guess but… What is it? LoL
@edwinpoonКүн бұрын
@@FedericoMalagutti it's an exercise regime like yours, Master Federico. This video interested me most, out of all your HEMA works. The fact that you pay attention to something so basic, impressed me. Pls continue your good work.
@FiliiMartisКүн бұрын
I thought the sword feeling heavy in the hand due to age was a myth, an exaggeration to emphasise the idea of getting old and frail. But after it took me a month to recover fully from a bad bug a while back, I picked up my sword, and I could not believe how heavy it felt. That was the moment I started to appreciate fully the idea of conditioning one's body.
@kaizen5023Күн бұрын
A lot of us including myself are working off some extra "padding" from COVID years, but even before that i noticed the North American HEMA community has a high% of folks in the unhealthily overweight category. Many are also tough as nails, but let's be real - can we consider ourselves practical martial artists if we get extremely winded after a few 3 min light sparring rounds? Again, including myself here, let's get real and get in better shape.💪
@FiliiMartisКүн бұрын
Wait, I need to exercise in addition to training? But I just want to be good with a sword now! 😫
@FedericoMalaguttiКүн бұрын
Hehehe
@FiliiMartisКүн бұрын
@@FedericoMalagutti Don't Hehehe me, I come to your channel to be told how to become a great sword master in 30 days or less. Stop telling that I need to put in the work. What next, effort as well? P.S. KZbin is giving me a Translate to English button next to the "Hehehe". It stays the same, but I love to think that you are "Hehehe"-ing in Italian 🤣. Ok, I'll stop here with the nonsense for the day. 😄
@FedericoMalaguttiКүн бұрын
@@FiliiMartis lol. Well I admit the translator works very well! XD
@florianamann7978Күн бұрын
Loving this!
@FedericoMalaguttiКүн бұрын
Thanks!
@GabrielfoBRКүн бұрын
Do you think it's a good idea to do weight training on the same day of HEMA practice?
@FedericoMalaguttiКүн бұрын
I have 5 days of gym and 4/5 of HEMA per week. I do it because I have to but I got into the habit. You have you performance slightly diminished but it works
@kaizen5023Күн бұрын
Yes it is fine according to my physical therapist.
@AndrogynousRatCatcherКүн бұрын
I hope to start physical fitness very soon. This video dropped just at the right time!
@FedericoMalaguttiКүн бұрын
Good!
@FiliiMartisКүн бұрын
I love how in Kingdom Come Deliverance I, you are bad at fighting until you actually learn to fight. And you actually get better with practice. The bad part... the act of training was so convincing during a weekend long gaming experience that I thought my own fencing got better after playing this game (as in timing, not actual moves)... a mistake easily corrected 10 seconds after picking up a sword in real life again. 🤣 Can't wait for the second game! 🥳 I love Czechia (yes, Prague in particular), and it's unfair to ask a Czech studio doing a game emersed in Czech history this, but can you do the same centred on the Italian Wars? I want to fight in Florence and Bologna and more. And none of Assassin's Creed nonsense. I want the KCD combat system for sidesword and spadone while I'm crossing Ponte Vecchio in Florence or storming Palazzo d'Accursio to oust the Bentivogli family from Bologna. I can only dream 😮💨, but I really do wish this combat and game style got more popular in gaming. Winters are cold, dark and gloomy, and a perfect time to play these type of games, so give us more.
@kaoskronostyche99392 күн бұрын
My problem is motivation ...
@FedericoMalaguttiКүн бұрын
Motivation comes when you see results. In my experience.
@kaoskronostyche9939Күн бұрын
@@FedericoMalagutti Indeed, however I lack the motivation to even get started. Could be the lingering effects of a recent lengthy illness. I'll keep watching videos and I know some day soon I will be up and at it. Thanks for the reply. Cheers!
@FedericoMalaguttiКүн бұрын
@@kaoskronostyche9939 cheers!
@TheNadOby2 күн бұрын
I started lifting in parallel with HEMA some 6 months ago. Can lift only two times a week, and fence another two times a week. It is hard to manage timings, cause after lifting I'm so sore it impairs my HEMA training. Done a full-body power-building style (3 by 6) heavy basic lifts program and now switched to a higher volume one. Cannot emphasize how important is the diet, especially hitting the protein amount per day (1g per 1kg of body weight).
@robertvondarth17302 күн бұрын
Qualified Fitness expert, and HEMA practitioner here. It is not necessary to gain much weight to develop strength, use isometrics. I have intentionally began decreasing muscle mass compared to my profile picture. Core training, and flexibility is key.
@FedericoMalagutti2 күн бұрын
Oh well definitely. But honestly it depends from at which point you start compared to your height. I was 190cm x 72-3 kilos around three years ago and the improvement I had in strength by gaining weight were extremely high. In terms of isometrics, honesty I don’t know, it’s the exercise I gained the least from in my entire training career
@robertvondarth17302 күн бұрын
@@FedericoMalagutti People have mixed responses with isometrics, it’s the least studied mode of resistance training. I’ve found that if you get it right (for you) they increase strength very rapidly. They are also very boring… Otherwise your framework offered is very well balanced. I’m not disagreeing with anything you offered, I was simply making a minor (fitness nerd) observation regarding hypertrophy vs power. I have personally switched to about %80 isometrics now, as I have too much muscles for best fencing.
@IljaThePersonКүн бұрын
@@FedericoMalagutti I am currently in a similar body mass ratio to where you used to be, and used to be even smaller - I can definitely corroborate that gaining a bit of weight (up ~2kg from 58kg and 173cm a few years back) really helps sword control for those who are in the lower end of normal.
@thomastucker73178 сағат бұрын
Why would you use isometrics? I can see why you might use isometrics for a sport like gymnastics or calisthenics when they are a big part of the sport, but for something like fencing. Explosive, big ranges of motion. Strength is specific to the range of motion trained, no?
@robertvondarth17303 сағат бұрын
@@thomastucker7317 Good question- high intensity overcoming Isometrics tend not to induce much hypertrophy. I’m already too big for optimal speed work, as I’ve spent decades focusing on hypertrophy bodybuilding. A simple illustration- What body type would best suit fencing: Arnold Schwarzenegger, or Bruce Lee in their prime condition?
@redviper3242 күн бұрын
I feel that high intensity training is the best, time wise. With just 3 hours a week (tops), you will have good results and will keep having them for quite long
@redviper3242 күн бұрын
But some people don’t respond well to that type of training, if you see no results, experiment new methods!
@FedericoMalagutti2 күн бұрын
HIIT is useful, in my humble opinion, as a side activity/warmup during the fencing lesson by integrating in it footwork and free body exercises. As a main training method as far as I can enjoy it it is too demanding psychologically speaking for the majority of people. Namely that they do it for a couple months and then they start missing sessions and then everything falls apart. In my experience
@FedericoMalagutti2 күн бұрын
@@redviper324truth
@redviper3242 күн бұрын
@@FedericoMalagutti I was thinking of just HIT, only 1 set, to complete failure, then a week off or more for that exercise. Like Mike Mentzer in the old days. I used to do mostly strength training (powerlifter moves) and went up to 200 kg deadlift at 73 kg weight. I switched to Hit and although my 1RM deadlift has lowered to about 160 kg, I am way stronger during my MMA sparrings.
@FedericoMalagutti2 күн бұрын
@@redviper324ah yeah!!! I misread! Makes sense but yes, tough!!!
@robertstuckey64072 күн бұрын
Ive needed this video!
@FedericoMalagutti2 күн бұрын
Good!
@Zodd832 күн бұрын
I've paid a lot the underextimation of legs condition and elastic bands... hope lot of other people don't make my own mistake! :P Thanks for the vid!
@FedericoMalagutti2 күн бұрын
You are most welcome!!!!
@sherdenied1803 күн бұрын
Это в первый раз когда вы в руки копья взяли? Для новичков не плохо
@louisgaty58153 күн бұрын
I have always thought that HEMA is lacking in it's approach to physical fitness. The manuals never really touch on what kinds of exercises were standard for training in the past, I think this kind of content will only make HEMA a more well rounded martial art.
@FedericoMalagutti3 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@tonyoik10122 күн бұрын
The manuals never touch on it probably because they wanted to focus on techniques. When you go train a martial art, the coach may tell you what to train in terms of physique, but you don't actually train that physique in the gym, you train the martial art.
@SirKanti12 күн бұрын
Pietro Monte does give us some methods which involve lots of jumping, picking and throw heavy stones, as well as lots of wrestling. The Anonimo Bolognese says to train with a heavier sword than one you would use in a fight. There are also counts of knights climbing ladders, volting, going on long run all while wearing full plate armour.
@FedericoMalagutti2 күн бұрын
@@SirKanti1all good advices despite the anonimo’s one which create too much bad habits in exchange for minimal strength increase
@FedericoMalagutti4 күн бұрын
I managed to write Dumbbell wrong every single time, after all, I cross checked the images only a couple thousand times. Well, anyway, I hope you will find this thingy useful.
@user-vw8it9oo8h4 күн бұрын
I don't know how long hema will continue, but I think it will probably branch out into something like kendo, kenjutsu, and iaido. All of these are martial arts that focus on katana used fighting, but each specializes in certain situations and elements. I also think that the various ranking systems, norms, etiquette, and other mental aspects of hema will gradually become more uniform.
@matthewpham95254 күн бұрын
Feders were meant to be safe, lightened, training tools from the beginning, I'm not sure where the controversy comes from. Yes, this will be lighter than your average longsword of this length, but so will most other feders? It's simply people being up in arms over slightly different lines in the sand.
@edi98924 күн бұрын
The false edge cut with the Katana should not be ignored. You can hit someone with a bamboo stick hard enough that they'll drop whatever they're holding! A Katana has a LOT more mass at the tip than pretty much any European sword. It doesn't matter if it's blunt. PS: I've been hit with a Shinai so bad that I couldn't write for days!
@joneppler92594 күн бұрын
I look forward to seeing how they do over time.
@jritchey2675 күн бұрын
A point that I don't hear explored enough: I think our gear already allows us to use more force than is appropriate anyway, and something that makes it "safer" to do so may just end up feeding a problem. We're used to incredibly durable swords and a significant level of protection, but that wasn't the case when they were being actively used. I expect that going full force, "tournament intensity" in period would be heavily frowned on, if not personally dangerous. In a tournament with blunted weapons, you'd probably face some kind of social consequences. In "earnest" with sharp weapons, you'd probably end up breaking your own weapon sooner than later, very likely at a less-than-convenient time for you. Granted, it probably wouldn't be entirely off the board, but you would use full force sparingly, tactically; not as the default we seem to be getting to.
@SUB0SCORION5 күн бұрын
I had a chance to try Sigi lights out. They are good product but they feel like one handed swords. You can do light safety gearless sparring with them (Blossfechten) and they dont hit hard even without gear. They are quick , nimble, they are wak in the bind. They are nice but they dont really simulat longswords at all. It is a to a longsword what a modrn sport fencing saber is to a 19th century dualling or military saber
@sinisterbohemian5 күн бұрын
If anything, I think Longsword fencing needs to chill out and be slower/more methodical. People already just act without thinking and without regard for their opponent's actions which is why Longsword is a "doubles" joke in the community. This tool will make that problem worse, not better.
@WaybackFencingClub4 күн бұрын
Right of way coming your way.
@Ishpeck5 күн бұрын
@19:15 Sigi has brought the "flick shot" from Olympic style foil fencing into HEMA! :P
@NumNumDumSloth6 күн бұрын
wow it looks really fast !
@paulconrad62206 күн бұрын
Hey, now I can bring my old "flick and stick" to HEMA!
@fightdummies6 күн бұрын
La cosa piu importante negli sport da combattimento e nelle arti marziali in genere è proprio il footwork, spesso non contemplato! Ottima disanima. Bellissimo video!
@ossian19776 күн бұрын
The grass is growing tall on the video set. Time to switch to sharps, so you train while gardening.
@FedericoMalagutti6 күн бұрын
Ahahahahahah!!!!
@MorrondAngrendil6 күн бұрын
We put the military saber technique starting with the sports one. This sports equipment looks similar for a longsword. It's a pity not to buy from Russia. Apparently we need to talk to Falcon Armoury or Kwetun.
@clocktock39996 күн бұрын
LOL, are you guys serious in these comments? Light feders are for those who want to avoid injuries and actually focus on skill. Also, let's be real, points in competitions are about effectiveness, not how historical you look. If you think you're losing a competitive advantage, maybe it's not the feder that's the problem. 😆 If you think this is bad for HEMA, buy one yourself and spare your clubmates the trouble of getting one for you.
@FedericoMalagutti6 күн бұрын
Well it’s far from being bad for HEMA, actually it’s a positive addition, but it may have consequences on the long run on how the fencing is applied. It’s normal that people care. Just yesterday I watched, for instance, a video of a Saberist (Olympic) which published a video of critique because of how judging is now applied since 2021 and how it changed the fencers habits and the meta. Sometimes there are events that change the way in which you have to behave that come from above and that you can’t modify, and being aware of this people are asking themselves if this is the case or not.
@jritchey2676 күн бұрын
HEMA exists because people are interested in swords, but both MOF and kendo have fallen so far down the gamesmanship rabbit hole that they don't really scratch that itch anymore. Avoiding injuries is important, but claiming the change just means you get to focus on skill more is at best misleading. It allows easier focus on *some* skills, but actively punishes others. It artificially narrows the range of skills available. Maybe the specific tradeoff is worth it. But too many such trade offs--or the wrong one--and we wind up right back where we started, except now wondering why HEMA suddenly just doesn't scratch that itch to use a sword anymore.
@clocktock39993 күн бұрын
Sure, HEMA is about our love for swords, but saying safety narrows skills is ridiculous. What specific skills do you think will be lost? Real training needs control, strategy, and technique. It's about refining second intentions, timing, and distance control. If you think HEMA doesn't scratch your itch anymore, maybe it's your approach that needs fixing, not the gear. It's odd you think MOF and kendo have "fallen down the gamesmanship rabbit hole" when they're still respected martial arts. 🤔
@jritchey2673 күн бұрын
@@clocktock3999 I didn't say safety narrows skills. I said this particular change does. It isn't the only means to achieve safety, and the skills being affected aren't generally ones with a high risk of injury with existing gear. The lighter and more flexible the blades are, the more they punish bindwork, which is a major part of several systems and a pretty damn safe part of those systems all things considered. It also reduces the effectiveness of basic defense, considering how lighter blades more readily wrap around and hit anyway, which judges may or may not bother to differentiate. How exactly is disincentivizing defense and control a way to improving safety in the long run? In return you get...faster sniping. More reliance on fast twitch response and voiding. Is it a bad tradeoff? Not necessarily. But it is a big one. I realize there's something like a 95% chance you're just trolling anyway considering your position boils down to myopic "git gud n00b" entitlement, but it's really not that difficult to see that there's more nuance to the issue than some false "safe or brutish" dichotomy you want to superimpose on it.
@clocktock39993 күн бұрын
@@jritchey267 "lighter, flexible blades punish bindwork"-maybe you should try engaging with the edge properly. The idea that lighter blades reduce the effectiveness of defense is laughable. If you can't control your blade, that's on YOU 🤣
@user-yl5cr3eb9w6 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, even before your final opinions are formed. Much appreciated 😊
@FedericoMalagutti6 күн бұрын
You are welcome!
@Manweor6 күн бұрын
Yeah, no thanks. I can see this as a teaching tool, but nothing more... I will boycott any tournament where this is allowed. Maybe a shorter version IF the weight distribution makes sense, might be used for fiore fencing. But if the weight distribution was right, it would not be as safe.
@FedericoMalagutti6 күн бұрын
I am not really into the idea of having tournament with these either. As a training and teaching tool I find it very useful.
@BernasLL6 күн бұрын
I can imagine an historical smallsworder and a saberist giving very similar feedback to MoF "weapons".
@paulconrad62205 күн бұрын
Historical smallsword and saber users had foils, too.
@BernasLL5 күн бұрын
@@paulconrad6220 Exactly my point. That's where MoF weapons come from, late smallsworders and sabierists. Then, they became the game, instead of the flawed training tool.
@allones30786 күн бұрын
it is interesting that even though FMA incorporates some Spanish fencing the style is still very different. I really thought i would seem more similarities. good video.
@FiliiMartis6 күн бұрын
Second thought here! SIGI just launched their Montante (at €550). So they launched the Light (only €330) to annoy a good portion of the community, which they know will buy a Montante as an overreaction. This way they get €220 more from customers. That's genius, and I'm sure that's what's happening! 😅
@FiliiMartis6 күн бұрын
I don't know how I really feel about light feders either. In addition to weight, it may be that it will allow a separation of longsword between a spadone like class (100-110cm blade) and longsword class redefined as 90-100cm blade (so more inline with historical longswords actually), maybe also add or remove grappling and half-swording depending on the class to make a greater separation between the two systems. Or the Olympic route feared by some will become true, I don't know. What I do find interesting is that I look at the schilt and blade and I don't like it. So my gut reaction is not to like the SIGI Light, even though I never touched one and never got to know how it feels in the hand. While I've heard from other HEMA practitioners on KZbin that they like it, and that they just see it as another tool in their training repertoire, I think SIGI will have an uphill battle with this one. The good news is that SIGI also makes regular feders. 🙂 P.S. I have the video pause while writing this, and I'm seeing the blade being half the size of the grip. I really don't like that. It's such a superficial reason, but I really don't like that. It's just not right! 😤
@irubberyouglueonethousand53846 күн бұрын
“i can only tell you what I think for now and what I think for now is that I have mixed feelings about this” 😂
@FedericoMalagutti6 күн бұрын
LoL. I have to be honest
@yoshi6586 күн бұрын
I guess I will start looking for buhurt clubs o lightsaber club if those ever become the standard longsword feder
@FedericoMalagutti6 күн бұрын
By now, I hope it will not become the standard. Admittedly is fun to fence with it, and it is useful in training, but I like to fence with a slightly heavier sword (simply because of how it moves, and because it feels closer to more originals in terms of stats).
@DarrickSiobban7 күн бұрын
I'm for all fencing, but at some point if we keep going this way, ppl are going to re-invente rapier, then side sword, then foil... 2 hands dont make much sense if you ignore the context, i'm training for competition very intensively and I must admite one hand long range hit are going to be an important meta in 2h competitive fencing, so this sword make sense But is it good for 2h fencing on the long run ? Well, it will generate a meta what may make the practice senseless i fear... All of this to say, all combat sport have meta issue, rules can fix it (like MMA right now with floor play) But if all federation dont talk together to fix official rules, it wont work
@FedericoMalagutti7 күн бұрын
I am almost completely with you on this. In relation to the meta.
@Honeybadger_5257 күн бұрын
Based on your impression, it seems to me like the Sigi light may be optimal for more low gear sparring. My group often practices low gear longsword sparring following a fetchshule ruleset. We have found that lighter fenders such as the Bloss paratschwert are preferable over standard fenders for this type of sparring. Even the standard Sigi feder is better than many other swords we’ve tried in this regard. I would be curious to get a few of these Sigi lights and see how they compare
@FedericoMalagutti7 күн бұрын
It may be, depending from the level of speed at which you are going I would advice to pay attention at the flex, getting slapped by the flex on bare skin can be “funny”
@Honeybadger_5256 күн бұрын
@@FedericoMalagutti Yes I imagine such strikes may sting a bit. However, we have our folks calibrate in order to avoid injury. In the our fetchschule ruleset only the (masked) head is a scoring target so strikes to elsewhere on the body are mostly avoided and usually only incidental. That being said, if someone keeps their arms raised above their head to protect it, the forearms can be targeted since those strikes would otherwise land on the head.
@SUB0SCORION5 күн бұрын
@@Honeybadger_525 This is exactly what we do something in our school. The sigi light and the regenyei paratschwert works perfectly for Blossfechten (something with masks and gloves). For full gear sparring this would not be my weapon of choice
@417hemaspringfieldmo4 күн бұрын
@@FedericoMalagutti is right....this may be decieveing. These are still steel trainers and should be respected as any hand held weapon.
@WaybackFencingClub4 күн бұрын
Even modern sabre doesn't feel the best when you get hit at full speed. Steel levers just hurt.
@SirKanti17 күн бұрын
Is sword is definitely an ick in what it represents. Have lighter options to allow people who are many less physical able to get into HEMA is great, but I've yet to see that. It seems to be able bodied people who are pushing for this as a means to have a competitive advantage.
@FedericoMalagutti7 күн бұрын
Well, who is more physically prepared receives far lesser advantage compared to who is lesser prepared. For instance, for me it would be better to fence with the standard against the majority of people I fence generally, if the goal is to win the fight of course. The light would be better against bigger opponents.
@heirihunziker7 күн бұрын
Looking forward to your review after a couple more months, especially in regards to the cascade effect you mentioned and how this will effect changes not just on a technical but tactical level.
@syys56407 күн бұрын
Light feders are for oly princesses who are afraid of bruises.
@unfortunatesun7 күн бұрын
Sauce plox
@syys56407 күн бұрын
@@unfortunatesun (c) Joachim Meyer
@FedericoMalagutti7 күн бұрын
LoL
@unfortunatesun6 күн бұрын
@@syys5640Citation needed
@erikfarkas78686 күн бұрын
Oh they can give you plenty of bruises if you desire that, speaking from personal experience. :)