DR is useless only to ppl who have too much time to waste in survival matches

I love my DR Ember where I use the augment to share damage reduction, you cant take it from me

What video?

If steel path it takes 5 minutes to defense, that’s totally not thinking about lower level missions. Causing these lower level missions to shoot up insanely in time necessary to complete

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Bolstered belligerents is a funny and great name for that tbh.

If I don’t learn how to exist as limbo from this video I’ll be sad.

Oh! What i nice video. To be fair i think that Invisibility and Invincibility are just easier concepts to wrap your head around. They're straight and simple and most of the time require small setup to run. with all of my yee old grinding times i didnt really knew how DR works. "I guess that's a glass cannon <role> warframe". Now im going to have fun with all of that info

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I haven’t even heard about this sorta thing before but it’s interesting

"who is this (orocel BP) for!?" *Me with half a million of each material needed and constantly running low on them*

Also, thank you for calling out (I know you may not consider it calling out, but I do) levelcap players. I've noticed that a lot of people in that community are borderline unbearable cunts.

Sorry if this has been answered before, but what video editing software do you use?

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You done fucked up. Yareli uses her skateboard as a health pool while in DR/secondary mode and has an I frame when getting on and getting off merulina. Additionally the merulina guardian augment causes merulina to heal by 20% when you kill a bubbled enemy triggering all sorts of on heal shenanigans as well. edit: yes this does out me as an anime schoolgirl main. Also it's very understandable that no one seems to know this as everyone still hates her from when she was bad.

Well done. Thanks!

Loki is a joke

I also want to state that people did level cap long before gating was even a thing, the way you did that is by using your utility, even tho saying dr isnt viable in level cap doesent mean it doesent work, you just need to play around not being invincable, we have a movemenr system designed to remove accuracy from enemies and soo many different weapons and gadgets that you can still do what you want, it just requiers a bit more skill than onga bunga me immune, to me personally i dont like the idea of never having to worry about surviving, i think gating and overguard needs a bit of a change but thats a hot take here XD

01:03:44 i yesterday saw them with kullervo fighting many Greneer with melee

bro we got the same nova fashion!

what if revenant passive was that when an ally dies his next ability cast becomes empowered. (thralls would count as allies) could be something simple like extra strength, or could be something that ties his entire kit into the thralls: after an empowered ability cast the passive will go on cooldown. 1.enthrall becomes usable on a current thrall to turn it into an eximus 2.messmer skin gives 10% of the stacks to allies around him (including thralls), 3. reave will do the increased damage even to non thralls, 4. danse macabre will explode any energy pillars it hits to do all the damage over time instantly and each explosion will reduce the passive cooldown.

DR isn't dead, most players just have no idea how to play the game competently. The players mocking you for trying to do traditional tanking are the same players who give "advice" such as "umbral mods make your abilities deal Tau damage" or "Dex skins make your weapons deal Dax damage" (true stories) and seem to have a high probability of complaining about how the monkey is "useless" now. In other words, they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about and probably think putting Redirection on Inaros (I'd say Nidus but they seem to avoid him) will give him shields and then wonder why it 0 + any% = 0. I was mocked for using Nidus P in steel path circuit (level 1600 was when I got bored because I was the only guy left in an open lobby) by the same person who gave me that "advice" - she also repeated the same ol' "wtf why aren't you using Ivara? DR won't help you" (it did). It's not that you NEED Ivara, good survivability and defensive play will work wonders

Dr isn't dead but warframe has been fir me since 2018

You should make a more general video on survivability cause just thinking to myself got me excited about it. Particularly three interesting talking points, like relation between these categories (the I's are counteractive, thinking of healing and dr separate is useless, and the I's shore their weakness with one of the other two) outside interactions (killing and companions) and applications when playing vs test room. Good video 👍.

DR stacking vs "gating" has a similar parallel to payday 2's armor tank vs evasion tank, where in lower levels (lower enemy damage) armor tanking had advantage due to its consistency. however at higher levels evasion tanking had advantage because the damage would overwhelm all be the most well built armor tank setups and simply not taking the damage (evasion tank) was preferable. the major difference is that the higher levels in payday 2 ARE endgame unlike warframe. and armor tanking also covered the "HP recovery" that is also required to not die with a DR setup in warframe.

I honestly think it’s harder to understand shieldgating. Even know it’s the primary form of survival for most warframes. And on top of that the majority of players don’t reach past level 300 so dr and health tanking work fine. At these levels your never taking enough damage to be one shot out right through the dr. Also great video listened to it like a podcast while at work . Please continue to make more like it. And those who leave stupid comments failed to do anything useful or meaningful with their lives and their for feel the need to make others feel as miserable as they do. So just revel in the fact that your life is better than theirs.

Having DR is noticeable, and pretty handy in some occasions where enemies do an insane amount of damage and have a absurd amount of armor (provided you don't have armor strip). I think everyone appreciates having it. I main Citrine and I haven't died at all due to the 90% DR ability she has. It's quite nice.

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something people often forget about damage reduction is that your base armor and health are your baseline for any source of damage reduction. most armor and health bonuses are a percentage of your base values. because of it, you end up finding weird things like a tank build kullervo having similar ehp to inaros just because his base armor is so much higher. specifically, inaros has low base armor, so what improves his survivability the best are flat bonuses to armor, such as arcane guardian or health conversion.

I don't think its DR that is a problem, players need to look at balance as a whole. The issue lies within the fact thaat not every warframe has the ability to handle steel path due to their design. Some frames rely on a team, some can handle it alone, some can just handle everything. For example, Loki who can get atleast 40 seconds of invisibility has no other abilities in his kit that boost him up, so hes just the invisibility frame. Octavia is a very popular steelpath pick because of that invisibility, but hte downside is you have to crouch spam alot, which is very tedious to do and why her play number is not high to classify her as broken. Plus with ingame settings able to turn off her mandicord, helps that to. Revenant is a big one becuase of his 2 which is just god mode. However he is n't toxicly broken because he isn't necessarily enjoyable gameplay wise. You hit 2, and just shoot things. That's what he is good at. Of course you have other frames which are good tha way, but the issue lies in the other frames and how they are balanced. DR isn't dead, its very usefull. For example, novas rework has better DR and is a very good frame. Mag is a starter frame, and minus issues keeping her shields up and health up, DR keeps her alive way longer. Specially since they added shield DR in a patch which helped her alot. Qorvex which is in your videos intro, their issues is they can have thousands of health and a ton of armor, but he has no way to regenerate health. So eventually they are gonna work through your DR and kill you.

Every form of crowd control is multiplicative to the damage you take so I mean

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Its kinda weird that the devs push shieldgating when DR is the “normal” way to play

I would argue ember is on the same level as inaros and nidus for one simple reason: sustain. If you build ember for sustain(energy), and slap on the aug for her 3, then infuse eclipse onto her, she still maintains a pretty high RD if you time the cast of both abilities really well, this is enhanced on steel path where, due to higher enemy number and tankiness, she actually gets STRONGER because she consistently has more enemies to leech health, shields(thanks to augur mods), energy(thanks to stuff like rage and hunter adrenaline), overguard thanks to her aug, and CC from the actual ability itself. Yeah, sure her DR rate goes up and down constantly, but even without helminth, she's still pretty up there, as she has some excessively high DR ramp up in a surprising amount of situations

Good video, but the only thing i would say is that even conceding the idea that stacking armor has "diminishing returns" is conceding too much. Yes, armor's impact on effective HP is completely linear, which makes your relative effective HP increase curve at-intervals decline, but relative effective HP increase isn't a valuable metric in a vacuum. You have to get into discussions about opportunity cost before this can even be a concern, and there are only a few ways to scale armor anyway.

Grendel with catalyzing shields will both have great shield gate and have great armor and HP. His nourish also snap heals most of his HP bar and his 3 has Regen.

do you know how the DR stacks between mods that reduce damage while airborne? there is the set bonus one with aviator and the aura. if they are additive then it goes up to 124% DR while airborne which i dont think is how it works. but those mods with jades healing ability make her a great tank with archon vitality.

Chroma can get armour in such high values that he basically becomes invulnerable to any content with even a bit of healing over time added into his kit. It literally takes a radiation status effect, the thrax enemies in endless steel path circuit runs or standing in a jade eximus beams for a while to down Chroma.

So basically peeling the onion

With Adaptation. I think it it works for multiple attack types at once. If you look at the gametime 26:50 you can see both Puncture and Slash being listed at 90% damage reduction. Inaros isn't taking that much damage to begin with and believe if it wasn't for those 90% damage reduction on top of his normal armor value he'd be taking more damage.

I wouldnt call regeneration or CC damage reduction, on account of them you know... not reducing damage.

I play a full health tank with Kullervo, full umbra, full strenght mods, and flow for the 5 tau purples. It works wonders because i mix a lot of those stuff you mentioned. I have 30k overguard, 90% armor DR, 3.6k HP, healing through Arxane Reaper, and my doggobot turns every enemie against themselves and disarms or stuns them while i blast their asses with a gunblade

Wait, so it means that Corvex is one of Warframes that Xaku are made of

Xaku prime is just the pieces of the prime version of the three frames they're composed of ofc

My Inaros Prime has no problem face tanking stuff.

Just my 2 cents. Its simple but i think it would work... only eximus and heavy units (when overguarded) can nullify CC. Then you can still CC standard units while giving you a chance to interact with eximus units. Still allow eximus units to give smaller enemys health,overguard, and any other buffs nearby eximus units can apply to them. But they should still always be vulnerable to CC. This will open up the door so DE can balance the interection of the player to OG units directly as needed.

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Wait u guys have dmg reduction

I find that energy tanking is fun.

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