@clothpillow7218 it's accessible from the Artemis beta program however since the lead coder form it has not been in a position to do much for years at this point, I would be recommending against pursuing application unless you are fine with a working but quirky script. That being said, I am working with cheerkin to make a similar thing based on APCK, and if things go well it would actually be superior to what can be done using Artemis turrets.

@ignaciocorreaalvano648 tbh it is very specifically a system that has to rely on either some extremely skewed server settings or (in the case here) relay targeting where another grid is spotting the target for the system to take aim at. It also need modded weapons that are compatible with such capabilities. Railguns and kingsword from the AWE pack have the capability for 50km travel distance and with high muzzle velocity they only need to spend a dozen seconds of flight to hit the target. Still makes it basically impossible to nail something that is accelerating and changing direction but anything not accelerating is going to have a bad time. One of the things I pair with such systems (in the theoretical, I would be fileding them) are guided missiles and/or drone swarm interceptor tied to a speedbreaker to quickly move in the target area. Unlike these un-guided long range shots, these can hit maneuvering and accelerating targets. And it puts the enemy in a bind since if they ever stop maneuvering to adress the threat of the drones, they will end up exposing themselves to the suppression bombardement. Though in reality the speedbreaker drones and missiles are by far the superior and most practical option as they can actually self sustain themselves and also identify targets once in engagement instead of needing some relay drone to tell them where the target is.

@swagysnoop5248 yeah, as always issued propped up as the scope of the release expanded massively. I am basically an inch away but the issue is that the secondary coder for the project is handing the build management script to someone else and I need to make sure that is handled before I can release something. But the rest is basically done and I am thinking of releasing the thing as a public early acess on the discord for people to give me feedback

@colintownshirt I think for a little bit you see the ship I use for target designation and it's HUD. I can use that HUD to issue commands and control units with an RTS style command set already.

Gotta admit though, I died a little inside when I saw how many conveyor junctions were in use in that big ship's nacelles. Holy hell conveyance lag.

@@wayfarerzen downside of internal hydrogen engines. But really the repeated inventory operations of hydrogen are the cause and not really the conveyor mesh in itself. From my experience hydrogen engines are the worst at this. But hey when the bullets start flying and the nukes start landing, this matters a lot less

@@koneeche unfortunately no the spin was an out of control thing. Missiles and drones with just one axis of thrust fly around atmospheres like helicopters. This is done to be as fuel efficient as possible, granting them ranges far in excess of what the full thrust drones can acheive even with lower fuel reserves. Of course for drones in atmosphere a full thruster layout is required to fight stuff that is close to the ground

@@mobiuscoreindustries Ah I see. It looked almost intentional. Still really nice!

@@koneeche Its slightly intentional in the sense that their trajectory and design failsafes are made to help enable detonation even if they are destroyed, depending on the circumstances. For one on planets their approach trajectory at long distance means they have a good chance of hitting or at least falling close to their targets if they are destroyed. They airburst so they don't need to make contact, just get close enough, and since the hydrogen is part of the 2 step detonation if enemy bullets cause only one of the tanks to rupture, or they end up landing next to where another missile crashed, it will cause the nuke to go off needless to say it does make them somewhat of an occupational hazard so I would not recomend hanging onto them in the formation for too long when traveling

Nukes make my PC cry for help

Huh he he, it's literally nuking your P.C.

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2914050991 That is the one

@@mobiuscoreindustries thanks :)

@@BeunT_ yes

@indigenous.rabbit2877 I did that already did weapons of the sort. Though nowadays unless you have weaponcore targetting it's very iffy to defend against more than one weapon, but any form of guided weapons can feasibly work in an intercept role. Yes in truth the carrier would not have been static in a real encounter. It's defenses were actually quite good at dispatching the drones and missiles, it just eventually got saturated. Just like with missile intercept, the issue is and always be targetting. The range is limited and the capabilities of engagement for multiple targets is always a question of mostly luck in vanilla.

Yeah I know, I wanted to make this a proper cinematic however recording was a bit of a pain (since the carrier was absolutely tanking the sim speed) and there was a few times I needed to pull the HUD out and tweak things so decided to just go with what I had.

@@mobiuscoreindustries I don't actually think that space engineers is capable of creating that experience that I'm thinking of. Real time simulated and animated and lit doesn't make for a good combo. I'm thinking about one of the cinematics for Halo wars when a figurative river of the forerunner sentinels cut through a ship by ramming it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/npeaepWigtKJaNEsi=ffSp4T8WKiUi79V_ this one. I would also like to change my description of it being a river to it being a sheet, which is cooler.

@@Rose_Harmonic I could do that though the issue is that by default damage done by SG collisions is pathetic. I could cheat using kinetic devastation. All drones come with a warhead for disposal but that can aslo be used to turn them into missiles. All I need really is to send the command override

@@DeagleGamesTV Yeah it's a real shame this game doesn't find itself in the spotlight as much as it used to.

@@qWeR1111-n2j I am thought the issue is just that I too am learning and changing the way I go about doing things. I also focus almost exclusively on either individual, usually not dockable LG drones or swarms of disposable sub units, giving a usually sizable gap in my practice with stuff like docking graphs and carrier operations. And to give an idea I have the plan to release a set of easy to use APCK based modules but I have now basically rebuilt them 3 times already as I learned of better ways to use them. First iteration was manual refresh, connector load and launch. Second iteration which you are seeing a part of here in early concept was using timers to automate the building but had key issues when it came to ensuring proper timing as well as to make more complex systems like swarm drones and nukes work in survival. Current iteration I actually partnered with EXODAR in order to use a build and inventory management designed specifically for all things APCK, enabling after some setup to basically just ask the script to make 43 of a specific unit type and it will just do it. The complex setup is going to be alleviated by the module approach. Basically I did all the setup and component calculations so you will not have to (I also have a nifty excel sheet I will let people use to generate their loadouts more easily too) Work makes stuff go slow, but at least I am at the phase where the stuff I am missing is primarily related to things like TGP and making it easier to add it to ships as well as bugs related to the command interface modules.

Graphic mode?

@@mobiuscoreindustries light, blur, something like a sky, skybox

No you are not being impatient, I am being a dumbass who reworked the entire system serval times and am now on the third "definitely release ready" version. Thought that one may actually make the cut. Need to organize with EXODAR on it. The adding of the utilities management for construction is definitely going to enhance survival practicality, and on the flipside also makes nukes far more practical

4 months later *cricket sound*

I WOULD IF I COULD OKAY! I would need to find someone deranged enough to mod that in because that is 200% outside my capabilities

Very exited to release those missiles soon too. Working in collaboration with EXODAR corporation to join with their effort on the subject

The trails are from a mod called rocketFX, the thrusters are vanilla hydrogen though. Those ones can't be publicly released because they run on Artemis but I am planning on releasing missiles that run on APCK that are extremely similar

@@mobiuscoreindustries What is Artemis? A special script made by you? Will you make a video on it when you release these missiles or can you tell me when you do so? I've only used WHIP's script for missiles yet.

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Thanks for the thorough reply! Here is some more details | Does this work without the mod? Yep. I use WC out of convenience really. Through something like TGP I can use raycasting cameras to lock onto multiple moving targets as well as cast static points on the ground for the bases. When I was testing the system, I was using that vanilla static point method and casting random points on the ground to verify it could work. The role of WC was just to make it easy on myself as it would allow me to track enemies in range without bothering setting up too complex of a tracking system. The other 2 mods used here were an engine mod and a speed mod. The engine mod was there because I didn't want to bother with fuel economy, and I wanted to use the small missiles I was developing. The all vanilla Wyrm missile has the endurance needed to strike on a good chunk of a whole planet and I already demonstrated its capabilities for orbital strikes. Its just 2 small grid small hydrogen tanks will only carry you that far. The speed mod also was there so I would not need to wait 2 hours for the missiles to arrive. I usually employ the large grid "equivalent" for such stupendously long range fires, because even a small hydrogen tank will take you comfortably around a planet and its moon. | I really like how the missiles stayed in low gravity at first, and then when close enough to their targets pitched down steeply. The updated CD for these missiles (and probably all my APCK missiles going forward) implements a top-down attack offset even if the target isn't far enough to trigger the circumnavigation guidance. This makes for some great long range artillery and it assists greatly in complementing their unique thrust method. | Anyway, large volley's like this work best since turrets can shoot down missiles. One of the core advantage of loitering munitions, being the ability to stockpile missiles for an alpha strike or to fire at more targets at once. This is even more important on welder/launcher/PB strained servers since you do not want a ton of individual launchers taking useful block space but probably still want to oversize a salvo if needed. The other being that the missile will return to you if all targets are destroyed, and follow you around if it has no targets. Not so much here but for space based missiles there is a fair bit of missiles that come back to me after the target got demolished by others. And in space its entirely possible to be in a ship in a "hot zone" having a few drones or missiles pre-emptively deployed so that you can always be ready to respond to a surprise attack

@@mobiuscoreindustries Yeah, planets can cause a lot of complexity, hydrogen is the obvious fuel choice for missiles, for many reasons. I've got a very compact small grid missile on the workshop that can be fired repeatedly with one welder and fit through a sliding door. Sooo simple, but there is room onboard for two more blocks that could be used for either a second auto pilot phase, or other functions. I could also get rid of my target missed condition event block, that after a lock is acquired, if it flys further than 2.5km the missile self destructs, but I did this for server cleanliness. Basically, I made very cheap little six warhead ai missiles that are plug and play, and are just meant for outreaching railguns. Potentially maybe 9 could be printed from a single welder but I've never attempted that because in actual pvp encounters targets either get to 100m/s or jump away when they see missiles. I tend not to attack static grids because they are either owned by new players, or covered with a safe zone anyway. I mean, I am also talking about mostly playing in the highly populated Keen servers with the 20k pcu limits. I used to play in Embrace the Lag server, where we could use all manner of scripts, even the Eye of Sauron for getting target locations and guiding missiles, but that was a long time ago and I've become a gentler Space Engineer lol.

@@zaflowgalactic kek same dynamic for me These missiles in question are capable of welding 4 per welder (mounted externally, at an angle), and they have 2 small hydrogen tanks and 4 warheads each, with both lidar and internal proximity detonation. I also have a micro-nuke variant that is the same size, and trades regular warheads for an item nuke system. I also have an internal bay variant, which is smaller and has only 3 warheads and one hydrogen tank, but it is faster and 2 missiles can fit per door and per welder. Each has proximity detonation for near misses and you can call for remote detonation of all missiles if needed to clean them up. OBVS here one of the big advantages of APCK here is that since I can call for the wingman, I can recall missiles to formation without needing to destroy them. So if a ship decides to disengage or jumps away, the missiles are just going to come back. Only current "downside" RN is every missile that reaches less than 1km from the target switches to a far more agressive thrust regime to be far harder to avoid and as a result I need to reset their sp-limit manually so they do not go burning off their fuel too quickly

RocketFX by Klime

It can recognize gravity, but generally speaking, the goal of circumnavigation is to get from point A to B and accounting for when a planet is in the way. You can create an intermediate task after launch if you want them to go extremely high up or leave gravity before proceeding to target.

@@mobiuscoreindustries understood, thank you for your hard work and reply.

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I'm like an animal marking my territory with piss.@@Eggmayor

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Well I am going to be publishing the BP I used and it comes pre-loaded with the timers for their auto build/fueling cycle Its going to be a self contained system though vanilla thrusters may struggle getting the full reach on 2 small hydrogen tanks but with more tanks, or a single LG tank, its absolutely possible

@@mobiuscoreindustries what do the laser antennas do? And im definitely looking forward to the BP release

@accalt6519 well I needed them to track the targets. Specifically here I had a little tracking pod on the surface that broadcasted via regular antenna to the relay in orbit. That relay then sent it all the way to the launch platform so it could see the targets

@@mobiuscoreindustries any chance of getting an invite to the artemis discord please, already was a member/tester but lost access to my discord account would love to get back in there? TIA edit...nvm found my way back lol