I wasn’t completely clear on the transmission function. Do you shift in gas mode but not in electric mode?

I prefer air-cooled bikes with minimal electronics as there is less to go wrong. The Ninja HEV seems to be my nemesis bike. An enjoyable video though 👍👍.

Ergonomically, does it feel bigger than the 450?

It was obvious in the first week of the trial that the verdict was going to be not guilty. He may well have killed her, maybe even on the balance of probabilities but not to the beyond reasonable doubt level

I ride an ICE bike and drive an electric car. Apart from the silly price of the electric car (I lease it) and concerns that the battery life might only be about 8 years (that’s another reason I lease it) I LOVE driving the electric car. I do not miss anything about an ICE car. So. No problems with that. Range is fine (although it drops a lot with colder temps) and charge time hasn’t bothered me. Charging at home is very very cheap and convenient. However, I would not buy this bike. I can see the idea - range is the biggest problem on e-bikes, so this sorts it out. But. I can easily get 65mpg on my 1200 cc ICE bike. Many bikes that are more powerful than this hybrid can push 75mpg. So this, which MCN reckoned might get 80+ is a colossal white elephant. It is still polluting for no real advantage on economy, it is heavy, it is underpowered and it will be very expensive. Pulling these down the supply chain will not save the planet and will be even more dull than a vegetarian bbq. I’ll buy a second-hand ICE bike and donate some money to a conservation charity and I will have done more for the planet and I’ll have much more fun.

Looked at this at Preston Superbikes. Cheap frame, cheap suspension,poor brakes, over priced. Only in my opinion you understand.

I watched this with an open mind but soon realised the electric side of it is a complete waste of time.

Hybrids are not the future for passenger cars or motorcycles. Vehicles which include electric motors only to offer a sort of turbo boost are just another decadent fashion accessory and go totally against the green revolution we need. This bike is a perfect example. Extra complicated, extra heavy, extra expensive. In the mean time all this extra stuff doesn’t do anything for the range which is the only valid reason to use such technology in stead of pure electric. The real solution will come from cheaper, lighter, recyclable batteries, which are on their way. Cars with cheaper and more recyclable ones are actually entering the market. The only problem is that they are less energy dense which make them impractical for use in motorcycles. Ergo: Electric bikes ARE the future. But hybrid ones? No!

Excellent but that front disc wheel is positively dangerous.

This certainly is very interesting and as you say the shape of things to come, but after 2035 will it all be silent running ?

It's an interesting bike; first of it's class on the market, lets wait and see what they come out with in 2, 5,10 years time.

"Jeff, I can't get the bloody thing to move". That's the worrying part for me. If it's complicated, then it's bound to be unreliable. A dead, heavy battery after just 8 miles? Hmmmm.

I’m one of those who is extremely sceptical about electric motorcycles but who has never ridden one. For me an important part of motorcycling is the sound of the engine, the vibration and yes I like changing gear (neither am I interested in automatic motorcycles, although I do drive an automatic car). I think this Kawasaki Hybrid is a really interesting bike and worthy of this channel, maybe it is the future of motorcycling because I can’t see fully electric middle to large motorcycles ever taking off 🇬🇧

I thought the petrol engine would charge the battery for the electric motor. Is that not the case?

Very interesting. Great content as always ❤

I just rode my V7 to work on the coast road. Love that bike!

i bought a new one from bennett and woods in sydney. best road racer i ever rode.

i bought anew triumph cub in oz in 1963. dont see many around these days. my bike is kept in the garage and ridden each day. great bike.

I like the new V100/Stelvio engine, and I'm waiting for it to be in a low slung naked "Griso" esque ride. I have a v85, and it is my goto for daily riding. Won't be getting rid of it.

I love mine, agree with the suspension. It's rather crap in every single version of the nineT

I love the charm of the v85 as well. The new Stelvio is a better bike overall but just doesn't talk to me...

Walked into a glass door, not a pub brawl while discussing British bikes v Italian bike… sure.

It would be nice if you did a review on 2024 v85tt and one in this video. It would be only one on You tube, and a very interesting whats changed after 6 years

Bought a V100 Mandello S last November...zero issues, looks far better in the flesh than pictures, lots of fun, all the tech and 115 horses...I hope Piaggio / MG release a super sports version of the V100

In the late late 80’s I used to go for rides with a guy who had a R90s. My bike was a Moto Guzzi Lemans I. Even back then it was unusual to see either bike much less both together. My memories of my friends R90s were that it was very close to the Lemans in terms of motor, but the Guzzi handled and stopped better. Looks wise? Too close to call. Anyway, fond memories of a couple of great bikes back in analog 80’s when I was still in my 20’s.

I heard nothing about air protection in the comments. Stelio is much better than V85 and this gives you a great advantage in the highways. V85 is actually very poor there

I heard nothing about air protection in the comments. Stelio is much better than V85 and this give you a great advantage in the highways

I prefer their baby brother 660 Tuareg. Lighter.

Love my V85, model 23. Own a 97 BMW R1100R and a Honda Blackbird, too. The V85 is so easy and smooth to ride. Never had the impression to lack power. Installed the Mistral Y-Pipe (with cat) and headers, V-Twin-Boost and K&N. Bike is a bit louder, sounds more impressive, also 10 kg less and more omp above 3000 rpm. Easy to ride with less than 4 liter/100 km without being slow. Awesome. The Stelvio is beautiful, great engine I suppose, but much heavier and much more expensive.

Thanks for doing this video fellas. I'm weighing up betweenthe 2 bikes so it's exactly the video I wanted to see. Also good that I'm a similar age to you guys too. 👍

I know what you mean about that odd feeling on first tip in. I've got a V100 S Mandello, and it always feels a bit odd on the first corner leaving my estate. After that it's great! Interesting comparison with the V85. I've looked at them and sat on one but never ridden one, must try one sometime.

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reading the comments before watching the vid. Someone mentions a Kawasaki Z900RS, someone else mentions a Honda CB1100EX and a BMW R Nine T. All three of those are sexy bikes. If they like the Guzzi V7 Special more than them, that really says something.

I have commuted from Gothenburg to Malmö for years, travelled to Falun many times, and overland from Gothenburg to Berlin, London and Newcastle a few times on a TS250/5.

Amazing review and it’s a pleasure to listen to you gentlemen. Very articulate. I’m stuck choosing between either a V85 or 2017 Stelvio. This helps a ton. Thank you.

Thank you for this great vídeo! I tried the Stelvio and the new 85tt this week. My brain says Stelvio, my heart says 85tt. Always follow your heart !

I hope you al learn how to pronounce GUZZI 😅

Don't know why but even though I am subscribed, not all your videos pop-up for me! Mike, you alerted me to this one after my comment on, 'what you will eventually end up on'. I can assure you the new Himi will never be on that list. I tried to get one vertical in the showroom and luckily Paul Dedman was there to lend a hand, he just said 'those days are over H, back on your wooden horse'! The horse is only a 650 Vulcan so what's not to like?.

Good Review I have the Montauk version

Stelvio is better, prettier, slightly more comfy and more powerful than the V85TT.... BUT it also, is thirstier. The coolant should be checked before winter storage ( in cold countries ), and - the price ! 😖 Would I swap my Centenario for Stelvio ? - yes - if I had a well functioning spinal cord and more physical power 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂ Would I do it because Stelvio is a better bike ? - NO - I'd do it, just to have a new, pretty toy, and for showing off. Otherwise, if I had enough 💰💰💰💰I would keep both, but still, use the V85TT - Stelvio is tooooo heavy - 4 me

Sorry Lads, but methinks a big Moto Guzzi will not be your last bike, you will be on something smaller, shorter,lighter, with no gears, but at least you will be happy still on 2 wheels! I know, because.............!

Liked and subscribed. Just found you guys while researching my new V85 TT Travel. You guys are a great way to wake up with a cup of coffee and the pups on a cool foggy morning in the Appalachian mountains of Central Pennsylvania. A cool morning but a warm sunny day ahead. Sun burning through the fog now. Nothing like September weather in this part of the world. I love the looks of the Stelvio but live on a rough dirt road and need the plush suspension of the V85 over the sharp looks and extra power of the Stelvio. The charm and character and engine of the V85 are really something else. It's lovely down low and in the mid range and rips on top. How'd they do this with an air cooled lump? Feels like my water cooled GS's. Sidenote: test rode and wanted to buy a new Honda TransAlp but my God it was dreadfully lacking character, feel, low and mid range punch, etc.. So glad I rode it before buying it! Bikes need to be a V twin or Boxer to have any character IMHO. Cheers

Great review and discussion lads. Very enjoyable 😊

Excellent piece as always, thankyou!

Guzzis are very, very reliable and easy to maintain bikes. Beside of being very good looking and have the best engines out there. You will never ever get so much emotions while riding and while looking at it with a japanese bike.

Simon Hargreaves was on the launch of the new Stelvio. In the end of his video and the conclusion he mean...."..that's a elephant in the room, and this is the V85TT..." 😂😂 There is nothing more to add 😉😉

An excellent comparison to make thanks chaps, very useful 👍

i really appreciate this authentic review of these gentlemen! i strongly agree. thank you