The number of passengers is still increasing rapidly if we look at the first three quarters of 2024 (below). Ridership on weekdays is about twice as much as during weekdays/holidays. I think the numbers are pretty decent, also taking into account trains operate about 2 hours shorter than commuterline trains. Q1 2024 3.841.552 ~ 42.200/day Q2 2024 4.844.096 ~ 53.200/day Q3 2024 5.968.184 ~ 65.500/day

Beruntung pengadaan Commuterline pakai Toyodenki

Where I filmed this, the left side has been cleared I think late last year, as they are going to build an elevated track here, but the right side is still like a little kampung. There is a cafe here as well, and it's easy access to the entire neighborhood. There are only a limited amount of trains though, not like KRL in Jakarta.

The connection is there, but it's not convenient, although entirely walkable by pedestrian paths now. From LRT Dukuh Atas you can exit to the right, taking the skywalk over the canal, tap in at Sudirman station, tap out again a minute later (1 rupiah fare only) and then walk along the Kendal Tunnel to enter Dukuh Atas MRT station. Given this, the tunnel alone used to be a permanent traffic jam years ago, so there has been much improvement already. Most likely more to come in coming years.

@@H12-k3u he have Colonial mindset. He think native made trains or car were so bad so they should have given up early on . And must remain dependent on technology & Product from the West.

@@H12-k3uhe have coronial mindset . he think native made trains or car were so bad so they should have given up early on . And must remain dependent on technology & Product from the West.

​@@MuhammadakbarAK47.. kalau mau maju harus siap menerima kritik...jangan baper......😂

@@cobain165 no for the dutch

elaborate on colonial mindset? what do you mean?

@@mentau1905 The native made trains or car were so bad so they should have given up early on . And must remain dependent on technology & Product from the West.

jangan gitu bro dia kasih kritik supaya LRT bisa semakin lebih baik. LRT kita kan emang bermasalah juga desain rel nya karena terlalu lengkung lintasan nya makanya jalan nya lebih lambat

@@MuhammadakbarAK47nguaranggg…. klw emang jelek kenapa? Buktinya dengan di kritik2 terus akhirnya PT KAI bisa membenahi,,, the difference is he’s white so you decide to bring up race and history..

@@mentau1905 dia ingin kita tetap beli teknologi dari jepang ( MRT Jakarta) , Korea Selatan ( LRT jakarta) , kereta cepat (cina) & bus dari Jerman , tank dari Jerman , pesawat dari Perancis. Biar Negara kita miskin terus . Coba aja besok LRT bandung , LRT Surabaya & LRT Denpasar. Dibangun ada yang bermasalah bukan ya dikritik yang baik , tapi dihina biar kita beli buatan asing terus.

I have no clue what you're talking about. I've never talked about Africa, haven't even been there all my life. I think you're reacting under the wrong video mate. 🤷

There is a grand total of 18 stations, but some of them are on the line that splits at Cawang going to Cibubur. That makes the average km distance per station much worse though. But I'm still confident with the growth of demand, there will be infill stations added later.

@@johanstraveladding infill station wont be easy. The structure of the tracks relies on both side walls for main structural support (thus making it impossible to remove without changing the structure of the tracks completely). Any infill station will have ramps like halim station (which is an infill station). I hope when building the 2nd phase to bogor they change the structural design (to be like lrt jakarta for example) to allow better infill stations, they also plan to have super wide station distance in that section 😂.

You clearly haven't watched the video. Don't worry, you don't have to but I'll let you know that you make a fool out of yourself right now. 🥰

@@johanstravel Why do you criticize developing countries when you want to develop your own technology? You want Africa to stay behind and import cars and trains from the Netherlands/Germany ? With reason this free market. But when developing countries beat your technology (Chinese cars and solar panel ) You put tariffs in place to prevent other countries from developing.

Westerners love the environment very much. To the point of insulting developing countries building coal-fired power plants. but when cheap electric cars came to the west. to help accelerate the process towards zero emissions by 2050. European countries are taking off their ugly masks and imposing tariffs on EV cars, batteries and solar panels. they are so hypocritical

Where is the free market

Your comments have nothing to do with the actual video... Maybe you have copy/pasted them under the wrong video?

The fabric seat covers are being replaced with fake leather (?) ones. It will take some time, but I'm sure they will all be replaced soon.

Malaysians can only insult, while in their country there are many things that need to be corrected.

I think it's not the maintenance, but the choice of materials in the first place. I'm sure the seats in KRL are also dirty, but because of the fabric patterns, doesn't really show, like everywhere in the world though. haha.

​@@johanstravelBecause the KRL is imported from Japan

​@@johanstravelWhat do you want here? Do you want to keep Indonesia trapped and not develop and have to continue using western technology?

the blaming is crazy bro😭🙏

The LRT is slower indeed, even with large distances in between some stations. Any curve is taken much slower than average, which absolutely not the case on light rail in Singapore, Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok for example. (to keep it in the region). I guess that's caused by the design fault of some of the long span bridges being too narrow, so that problem will never be fixed. Also, KRL trains pull up and stop much better than these LRT trains it seems. Maybe that's because they have a driver?

​@@johanstravelWhat do you want here? Do you want to keep Indonesia trapped and not develop and have to continue using western technology?

​@@johanstravelSee China copying Japan and Germany's high-speed trains. Only 3 years in 2011 and already an accident . And hundreds died But that doesn't stop the Chinese government from developing technology instead of buying trains from Japan. Until the end they beat Japan in train technology both in terms of comfort and safety.

​@@johanstravel There is a similar problem with the narrow section in Canada's LRT made by Alstrom. They still cant fix the issue for years now. I dont think driver-less is an issue for LRT, KRL probably just have better brakes for the much heavier system. And this LRT is new so they probably need to operate conscientiously while evaluating and can update the autonomous sytem in the future.

⁠​⁠@@johanstravelmy personal opinion about the speed is because of the length of the train relative to the curvy and tight tracks. Compared to lrt jabodebek, Lrt jakarta is much shorter and use jacobs bogie (together with it’s short length makes curve handling a piece of cake). As for the errors, i observe that it is much more common in cawang to jatimulya section of the tracks. I use the cibubur line 4 times a week (still trying to transition from my car) and have never experienced any trouble with the train journey these past few months.

Really?

@@ervsoulfull even locals said that.

the rail based network is inadequate for sure, but hopefully the NS line extension of the MRT and later the EW line will solve part of that. Also, more new lines needed. Absolutely. I also use buses regularly as that network is pretty good nowadays, even if only using TransJakarta and not the smaller ones.

​@@johanstravelWhy do you criticize developing countries when you want to develop your own technology? You want Africa to stay behind and import cars and trains from the Netherlands/Germany ? With reason this free market. But when developing countries beat your technology (Chinese cars and solar panel ) You put tariffs in place to prevent other countries from become rich.

g lebih demen sih trem2 gitu di jalan2 atau lajur2 busway. naik trem itu enak ngak kaya naik bis. nyaman. kalo trem bukan bis, mungkin pengguna mobil yang penyebab macet bisa mau naik transportasi umum

Urban toll is the worst you can build tbh. That's never a solution and can see that by a number of cities that have since removed large highways in their city cores. Even some in the USA are talking about doing something about those freeways cutting up cities. More lightrail is needed, it's relatively quick to built and above ground so no danger to other traffic.

Ya digoogle maps pun begitu

The distances between stations don't make sense at all indeed. Between Cawang and Ciliwung it's a few hundred meters, but others are several kilometers apart. This is due to the fact that the construction company for this LRT is also a land bank. They built stations where they own land so they can develop TOD later. Not the worst idea, but they should have been demanded to build stations elsewhere as well. I hope there will be infill-stations added now the system is getting just below 100k passengers a day (and growing).

@@johanstravel 👍👍Something ive definetly noticed on KRL and LRT KAI lines.. lack of infill stations in high-desnity areas.. im 100% sure a handfull of infill stations will be built since KAI regularly caters to demand by private developers/local pop./pemda.. there should be 3 new stations on rangkas line and 1 new station on red line

That's what I understood as well. it's not that the govt owned construction companies have loads of cash money waiting to be spent on new projects like this, so hopefully it will be developed in the years to come.

@@johanstravel although they are multiple TOD development now constructed rapidly, mainly on Bogor line such as Pondok Cina Station, as for LRT they are multiple new high rise apartments being build near many station on Dukuh atas - Jatimulya line, although they are not part of the TOD program, but they are the results of the LRT line and now many pedestrian project are being proposed to connect those area to the LRT station to make up the delay of TOD development because is actually pretty near to the LRT station and it just need redevelopment and it also pressure the city to redevelop the area 2-3 km radius from the train station.

I haven't visited both, but they're on my list. Prasasti Museum should be easy as it's so close, but I just never made it there yet.

No comment. ;-) But the person that owns that channel is thinking about doing a casual face review there I've heard. 😋

A week ago I was at the same spot and now they don't use the manual gates anymore. They do have the automatic gates working now though.

I agree. And I also hope it will be extended to Surabaya.