Jakarta is a pedestrian HELL

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Johan's Travel

Johan's Travel

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@dolyharianto
@dolyharianto 3 ай бұрын
Pedestrian golden rules in Jakarta: - assume all drivers are idiots esp. motorcyclists - double and triple check that traffic has stopped before you cross a street, there's always that one idiot who wants to drive as fast as possible - be careful walking on pavements, either some parts are broken/holes or motorcyclists use them as shortcuts
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
Short, but accurate, summary. 😬
@wibarasta
@wibarasta 3 ай бұрын
Not only Jakarta. As a native of Java island, I can say that the entire traffic in this island is hell.
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I can make video's for the rest of my life here. 😍
@klikmitika3105
@klikmitika3105 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Johan for showing the real exact daily conditions of Jakarta's pedestrian. We as local people is quite afraid to be sued if we are doing the same like you. Hopefully more and more foreigner like you will show more videos like this and make local government do something about this hellhole! Thank you!
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
If you're showing the truth, that should be perfectly fine. Especially if you make recording of an accident that was caused by this kind of sadly common negligence. I hope eventually I don't make these video's anymore because that means the problem is solved.
@saluran1733
@saluran1733 3 ай бұрын
Well as an Indonesian i can only say fyi that our average IQ is 78 What can you expect from that? 😂
@FadlyYes
@FadlyYes 2 ай бұрын
Yess You are right that there are a lot of SDM rendah 😂
@abdulhamidsuip1266
@abdulhamidsuip1266 5 күн бұрын
It is not about low IQ but poor attitude and selfish people. Roads are meant not for motorist but pedestrians. Education and enforcement action are needed to stamp out this behavior.
@PanduAsli
@PanduAsli 2 ай бұрын
As mostly a driver, it is worrying that most of the times I feel like I'm the only one stopping for pedestrians and waiting for the light properly. As a rider, I got crashed into once while standing alone for the pedestrian to cross.
@morafi3516
@morafi3516 3 ай бұрын
The driver bribe the cop for driving license test, so they have no knowledge about drive the vehicle properly
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
I'm happy I converted my Dutch one for an Indonesian one. That came with 40 hours of practice as well. Back then it was expensive already, but at least I know that I should stop for a red light. 😅
@TheRealJohnSouth
@TheRealJohnSouth 3 ай бұрын
@@morafi3516 exactly what happens here in the Philippines
@BeagleChanzxro
@BeagleChanzxro 2 ай бұрын
As an Indonesian living in BSD CITY. I’ve been to Jakarta numerous times and I wish the traffic there was more like those in Europe & Japan
@kennethkho7165
@kennethkho7165 2 ай бұрын
If you are still thinking in terms of traffic, then you don't speak the same language as Europe or Japan. They care about the people walking the streets, people cycling, people transitting, small businesses, making the city smaller and denser, and they could not care less about how the cars are doing, because cars don't belong inside cities (they need to be limited to 20-30 kmh)
@kennethkho7165
@kennethkho7165 2 ай бұрын
"BSD City" is the ultimate doublethink concept, it claims to be liveable in its promotional materials but it is every exact opposite (yes there is a scientific meaning of "liveable" in urban planning circles which means dense planning), and it is not even a city, i don't get why private actors are allowed final say in urban planning matters here
@bambangwaseso7899
@bambangwaseso7899 2 ай бұрын
BSD City is already much better than Jakarta in terms of traffic.
@Clukay404
@Clukay404 2 ай бұрын
​@@bambangwaseso7899it will soon
@BeagleChanzxro
@BeagleChanzxro Ай бұрын
@@kennethkho7165 that’s what I’m talking about.
@bambangwaseso7899
@bambangwaseso7899 2 ай бұрын
Blame it on the government & politicians who never care about pedestrian's needs. Even commercial area such as kelapa gading is overloaded with private vehicles since it is lacking pedestrian facilities.
@farhanmarco7827
@farhanmarco7827 3 ай бұрын
and people wonder why tourists don't go to Jakarta...
@yennerchristien.
@yennerchristien. 3 ай бұрын
As a foreigner living in Jakarta, it's actually very horrible
@BeagleChanzxro
@BeagleChanzxro 2 ай бұрын
Then just buy a car bruv
@yennerchristien.
@yennerchristien. 2 ай бұрын
@@BeagleChanzxro I do have a personal driver
@bambangwaseso7899
@bambangwaseso7899 2 ай бұрын
@@yennerchristien. That might be a better choice, driving a car alone in jakarta can be very tiring & makes you feel burnt out because of the horrible traffic everyday.
@yennerchristien.
@yennerchristien. 2 ай бұрын
@@bambangwaseso7899 yeah
@Clukay404
@Clukay404 2 ай бұрын
​@@BeagleChanzxrodon't contribute to traffic jams bruv
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 2 ай бұрын
This is what I do when i wanna cross 1. I either hold my hand up or stare at the driver 2. Wait for them to stop 3. Keep staring at the druver while crossing
@makotohanazawa6560
@makotohanazawa6560 2 ай бұрын
after watching tons of videos on urbanism. i just want to point out they devoted too much space for cars and not bike lanes. mopeds are stuck in traffic with cars thats why you see them on the sidewalk
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely, infrastructure is eeh 'underwhelming' to say the least. But it's still mainly the mindset of the people; this also happens when traffic is flowing. And you could of course at least correct yourself and apologize for being wrong instead of giving others a death stare. 😂
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 2 ай бұрын
No, they actually overused the road for bike lanes that don't even get used. Some roads have been reduced to 2⅓ lanes from 3 lanes because of the unnecessarily wide bike lanes
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
@@RafaRadityo7 I should make a video to show what many bike lanes look like. Blocked by everything you can find on the road as there is no enforcement. No one can cycle there even if they wanted to. Again; blatant disregard for regulations and people around yourself is where it all starts if you're serious in solving these problems.
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 2 ай бұрын
@@johanstravel but the thing I hate most is even when the bike lane is clear, bikers won't use the bike lane
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
@@RafaRadityo7 Absolutely; I hate that as well. The worst you can do as a cyclist is purposely NOT using it when you can. I get high blood pressure from watching KZbin vid's about this, no matter what country they're from. hehe..
@Skyisblue96
@Skyisblue96 2 ай бұрын
As a Local, i never scared to cross the street alone in Jakarta before, but now i can't be able to cross Street Alone anymore lol
@wahyunovianta1362
@wahyunovianta1362 3 ай бұрын
I agree that some Jkt citizens need to be educated more about traffic rules. The government needs to make sure that traffic laws are enforced consistently and that violators are punished. This will help to deter people from breaking the law and encourage them to follow the rules. The media can also play a role by raising awareness of traffic safety issues and promoting safe driving practices like this video...
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
All those short clips with buses crashing on toll roads and trucks running into shops apparently don't do a very good job at actually teaching people why that happened in the first place. If only they had a system in place where you have to take at least a few mandatory hours to learn about the dangers of not following laws and regulations.
@HamieTown
@HamieTown 3 ай бұрын
But WACANA only
@mastersuhu
@mastersuhu 3 ай бұрын
Vietnam better... max 40km/hour in cities such as Hanoi, HCMC, Da Nang
@akradjab9858
@akradjab9858 2 ай бұрын
As a local i suggest for tourist always becarefull for jakarta street...because jakarta is still village with many primal vehicle driver that drive with no brain...tips for crossing join with other pedestrian to cross and keep aware for primal driver...
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I've been around in Indonesia for quite some time though and still alive. hehe.
@NYXCafe.Indonesia
@NYXCafe.Indonesia 2 ай бұрын
Exactly my friend
@MajorChernobaev-w9i
@MajorChernobaev-w9i Ай бұрын
Man, you need to see Bali with its 8-9 m wide streets with no pavements!
@johanstravel
@johanstravel Ай бұрын
@@MajorChernobaev-w9i I have a video about that as well.. But at least with sidewalks where I recorded, so I could remind people of that. 😅
@albertadiputra
@albertadiputra 9 күн бұрын
Just like what Axl Rose said: Welcome to the Jungle....
@nabilhanaf
@nabilhanaf 3 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the video! All I can say is: what can you expect when most of us driving didn't actually pass the driving test properly. A deadly combination of this and poorly enforced traffic laws make Jakarta mostly unwalkable. Our pedestrian infrastructure is still lacking too especially in certain parts of the city but I do feel like the overall philosophy of the city is turning into car/motorcycle-free traffic and focusing more on public transportation albeit the process is very very slow and long. Hopefully our next Governor will also make this a priority in their program. Terima kasih videonya, Mas :)
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it starts early with proper education (driving lessons), then comes enforcement (which is lacking, but electronic fines are helping a bit). The infrastructure that's available is mostly abused on top of that. That's how you perpetuate a culture of not walking.
@HenryHoe
@HenryHoe 3 ай бұрын
I'm in Indonesia now. I think generally it's because they don't build much traffic lights crossing and zebra crossings for pedestrians around here.
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
@@HenryHoe true, but they're working on that and outside of that, pedestrians go first if crossing the road in a safe matter outside of designated crossings. Using common sense would make things a lot better already.
@bambangwaseso7899
@bambangwaseso7899 2 ай бұрын
A good example is kelapa gading area which is crowded with many people everyday but lacking pedestrian infrastructure which leads to traffic problem on the road since there are too many people who prefer to use cars & motorcycles to go everywhere.
@00-_-_-_-00
@00-_-_-_-00 3 ай бұрын
Well, Jakarta isn't build for pedestrians because Indonesians in general don't walk very much. So it's natural for them to put themselves in the position of motorists and what is convenient for them (like using the sidewalk as an extra lane when the traffic becomes inconvenient as opposed to thinking about how this recklessness would effect pedestrians). As someone who never owned a motor vehicle before, Indonesia in general is a hell hole for me. The pavements are worse here in my hometown of Bandung so motorists are less of a problem here compared to street vendors
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
I was in Bandung a few months ago and walked around from the train station, the real one, not the Whoosh one, and can confirm it's messy there as well. I should have made a proper video on it though, but I was focused on the videos about Whoosh back then.
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 2 ай бұрын
And for some reason tourists are saying jakarta is so good and that other cities should learn
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
Jakarta has it's good things of course, but you'll need a car to get around, or at least a motorcycle if you dare. It's not a tourist friendly city for regular tourists if you ask me, although it's improving slowly. Those who like to explore though can/will have a good time in Jakarta.
@Lost24Smallville
@Lost24Smallville 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely no one is saying that
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 2 ай бұрын
@@Lost24Smallville look at Jason's travel
@Lost24Smallville
@Lost24Smallville 2 ай бұрын
@@RafaRadityo7 I live in this shithole known as Jakarta
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 2 ай бұрын
@@Lost24Smallville I do too. And what pisses me off the most are foreigners who praise Jakarta and don't know what is going on in other parts of jakarta. Ofc if you look at SCBD and Sudirman it's first-world country level but if you go even just a few miles from there, it's a whole different world
@Jackmoment-u8w
@Jackmoment-u8w 26 күн бұрын
And I cannot disagree as a person in modern Java
@Setan_ALAS7777
@Setan_ALAS7777 3 ай бұрын
💪 Johan!
@healerwolf953
@healerwolf953 2 ай бұрын
Makasih bang, tepuk terus mobilnya biar tau rasa. Memang harus diedukasi lagi tuh yang bawa mobil motor
@ekowahyudiefendi7107
@ekowahyudiefendi7107 2 ай бұрын
😂It's typically developing countries, traffic and police are such a mess.
@DSBW
@DSBW 3 ай бұрын
Mantap mister 🤣 4:23
@vorcent_jax
@vorcent_jax 3 ай бұрын
Good job wkwk
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 10 күн бұрын
Are you the same person as the channel 'Indonesia traffic and infrastructure'?
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 7 күн бұрын
No comment. ;-) But the person that owns that channel is thinking about doing a casual face review there I've heard. 😋
@FadlyYes
@FadlyYes 2 ай бұрын
Sebagai org Indonesia tentu saya malu liatnya, ya beginilah sir negara indonesia keep hati hati ya di jalan raya karena mayoritas org" di negara saya tiada yg pure mentaati peraturan lalu lintas seperti di negara maju
@henkynovarianto7085
@henkynovarianto7085 2 ай бұрын
Totally!!! You could be run by motorcycle on Pedestrians 🤣🤣🤣
@damarwirawan1348
@damarwirawan1348 2 ай бұрын
I see your gold standard are far fetched from our developing nation. Its still raw not even close to have a bargaining process with your corporate yet.
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
@@damarwirawan1348 if keeping off the pavement for motorcycles is seen as a gold standard, Indonesia indeed has a long, very long, way to go. 😬
@ThisRmine
@ThisRmine 3 ай бұрын
As Indonesia born here 17 yo i would agree the road is not built for pedestrian id ratther choose develop countries like aus usa uk etc it's really uncomfortable walk in here everything suck the ppl , economy etc, Overwhelming
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
Pedestrians are an example of how society is doing I suppose. 🤷
@Harald.
@Harald. 2 ай бұрын
As a Norwegian, I see drivers running red lights, not caring for other trafic, motorcycles driving on sidewalks, not even trying to give space for pedestrians. That has nothing to do with being 3. world. It's about being civilized.
@arya0794
@arya0794 3 ай бұрын
9:00 oh they actually waited for the light to turn green for once
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
That might happen by accident. 😂
@RafaRadityo7
@RafaRadityo7 2 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure its legal for cars to go on red at a pelican crossing if its clear similar to how there are those flashing red crossings in the US. Though we cant trust indonesian drivers judgement
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
I don't think that's the case. The traffic law from 2009 only mentions that red means stop, no exceptions. At least, as far as I can find. This would also be the most logical way to handle red lights in Indonesia as it's hard enough to get people stopping. Giving them a possibility to not stop legally will open up a whole load of arguments why they never have to stop.
@Kirana-d1i
@Kirana-d1i 3 ай бұрын
The capital city with the worst traffic is Jakarta.
@darkangelicsouls674
@darkangelicsouls674 2 ай бұрын
You can see these behaviors commonly
@genshingaming3975
@genshingaming3975 Ай бұрын
Pantes ga bisa maju, sdm nya kek gtu wkwk
@Nobnob23
@Nobnob23 2 ай бұрын
Sangat sangat sangat setuju dengan judulnya...
@pbbgogituloh2
@pbbgogituloh2 2 ай бұрын
If you're okay with Durian then you may like Jakarta. They don't call Jakarta Big Durian for nothing. 😅
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
Durian is pretty good though!
@IndustrisasiIndonesia
@IndustrisasiIndonesia 2 ай бұрын
The Dutch love bicycles. Indonesians also like bicycles (with engines).😊
@kennyklein2996
@kennyklein2996 3 ай бұрын
Binatang aja kalau diajari dari kecil pasti pintar dan taat mereka itu bukan binatang melainkan monster !!
@frehan1318
@frehan1318 3 ай бұрын
I hope that sometime you can go to Aceh (one of the provinces in Indonesia which is located in the westernmost part).
@portland3974
@portland3974 3 ай бұрын
Indonesia negara paling ramah, terdidik, cerdas, dan sangat maju (based on Indonesian, say that and they will be happy, ah it's so easy to make them happy). Indonesia's urban planning is made worse for pedestrians for a reason. The more uncomfortable pedestrians, the more people turn to vehicles, the more cars and motorbikes are sold.
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
Indonesians love to joke about India (with the Prindavan joke), but that's only because it's very relatable to many, not because it's much better here. 😂
@markzzzzberg1312
@markzzzzberg1312 3 ай бұрын
Hi, is it okay to walk without the face mask? How was the air quality in Jakarta because i've read the article about Jakarta being one of the most polluted air quality in the world?
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
@@markzzzzberg1312 Air quality indeed usually is bad to really bad. I don't wear masks for that though, as that would mean I always need to wear one even when sitting on a chair in front of the house. 😑
@markzzzzberg1312
@markzzzzberg1312 3 ай бұрын
@@johanstravel it's okay take care of your health
@farhanmarco7827
@farhanmarco7827 3 ай бұрын
It all depends on the wind. The pollution MOSTLY comes from the coal power plants and factories located just outside of Jakarta. If you're lucky, Jakarta air quality can get as low as 40-65 AQI range even with the traffic jams, but it can also reach 140-170.
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
@@farhanmarco7827 also, when there has been heavy rain over the area it's likely that the sky will be clean and blue for at least a few hours or even until the next morning, showing you what Jakarta should look like.
@bambangwaseso7899
@bambangwaseso7899 2 ай бұрын
There are way too many vehicles on the road during work days, thus air quality is also getting worse daily.
@jinjaman101
@jinjaman101 11 күн бұрын
and our new citizen are doing that here now and u turning in full traffic without looking yeop equality 50/50 you make it across.
@FadlyYes
@FadlyYes 2 ай бұрын
Selamat datang di negara saya mister, negaranya orang orang SDM (sumber daya manusia) Rendah!!! Mereka jika diberitahukan peraturan yg baik dan benar mereka akan mengamuk seperti simpanse
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 2 ай бұрын
Emang susah nih, entah sopan atau marah2, hasilnya sama aja, yg salah gak terima, apalagi minta maaf.
@FadlyYes
@FadlyYes 2 ай бұрын
@@johanstravel 🤣 ya begitulah sir, harus ada tindakan dari pemerintah untuk memberikan pendidikan setinggi tingginya kepada seluruh rakyat di negara ini agar menciptakan SDM yg tinggi tapi you know kan hal itu gk bakal terjadi gk usah saya beritahu kepada anda dan anda udh tau sendiri heuheuheu 😁
@yusufprabowo.
@yusufprabowo. 3 ай бұрын
Jakarta is already densely populated where if a city is densely populated then there will be people who don't obey the rules... please understand that our country is making a new capital on the island of Borneo and it will be the most beautiful and friendly city
@luddykhabibbudin2331
@luddykhabibbudin2331 3 ай бұрын
Ah ngga terlalu, banyak kota2 yg wilayahnya lebih kecil populasinya lebih banyak tp teratur
@MIZUch.
@MIZUch. 3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Tokyo hanya tertawa melihat komen ini 😂😂
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
Being densely populated isn't the issue; it works fine in Tokyo, New York, London for example. It's the mindset of the people that needs to chance. You don't do that by building a new capital somewhere in a forest.
@yusufprabowo.
@yusufprabowo. 3 ай бұрын
Sadar woy buat kita semua mindsetnya dirubah ..hargai pejalan kaki
@MIZUch.
@MIZUch. 3 ай бұрын
@@johanstravel If anything I actually fear that it would cause a further loss of forest area from the potential boom in urbanisation, a dire scenario considering the Borneo island's already bad deforestation. A better solution would be to build more adequate transport infrastructure to erase the necessity of personal vehicles in many areas and a change of mindset to remove the negative image surrounding walking or taking public transport. A pervasive issue in many parts of the US as well.
@gregstretton8584
@gregstretton8584 3 ай бұрын
And that was in the good part of town! Ha hahaha. There are two types of licence in Indonesia, the one you buy, and the one you don't have!
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
🤣 That's a good one. And ooh so true. Allegedly.
@charlesgotidoc5288
@charlesgotidoc5288 3 ай бұрын
Have you've been to Vietnam?, crossing there is nearly impossible cause of millions of motorcycles plying through the road
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
@@charlesgotidoc5288 I think it's easier to cross the road there as people will go around you instead of trying to drive straight into you. 😅
@MIZUch.
@MIZUch. 3 ай бұрын
Mister, kalau buat konten, hati-hati. Mister nanti bisa saya laporkan ke pihak berwenang Buat jadi menteri maksudnya 🫶🫶
@Will_Butt
@Will_Butt 2 ай бұрын
What will you report him for? taking videos in public places?
@JakaGemblungBawaGolok
@JakaGemblungBawaGolok 2 ай бұрын
Hati hati ditabrak/diserempet motor/mobil mister waktu nyebrang.
@chaxologist2024
@chaxologist2024 2 ай бұрын
What are you doing there?! Go to Philippines instead as people are far more considerate and civilized here! Drivers in Jakarta make NYC and NJ here in the U.S. look like a civilized, utopian haven despite all the shortfalls here!
@groomyClaimbodog
@groomyClaimbodog 3 ай бұрын
Please if you happened to visit Bangkok. We need you. Southeast Asian driver are the worst
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
I've been in Bangkok a number of times. Yes, traffic there is bad as well, so Indonesia is not alone in this.
@groomyClaimbodog
@groomyClaimbodog 3 ай бұрын
@@johanstravel hahahaahaha agree
@MajorChernobaev-w9i
@MajorChernobaev-w9i Ай бұрын
Visit Egypt first :)
@moza337
@moza337 3 ай бұрын
Jakarta not for newbie😅, if you want enjoy life go to Bandung, Yogyakarta, Surabaya or bali, jakarta for work not for life
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
Yogyakarta and Bandung were nicer cities 20 years ago. That's mostly gone now. Bandung is one big traffic jam as well and Yogyakarta is flooded by people from outside every holiday there is and is also much worse than it used to be. I lived there for three years from 2006. But that said, I'm not a newbie so Jakarta is fine for me, as are other cities. It's what you make from it for yourself here. 😎
@Refvi-ru2wm
@Refvi-ru2wm 3 ай бұрын
Semangat mister
@TheRealJohnSouth
@TheRealJohnSouth 3 ай бұрын
Let's see how you will fare on the streets when you visit Manila 😂😂😂😂
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
@@TheRealJohnSouth is it worse than Jakarta?
@TheRealJohnSouth
@TheRealJohnSouth 3 ай бұрын
@@johanstravel Perhaps the major roads are worse than JKT, especially with motorcycle riders. Shaw Boulevard, Taft Avenue, and Edsa, to name a worst few 😆
@TheRealJohnSouth
@TheRealJohnSouth 3 ай бұрын
@@johanstravel our fellow pedestrians are sht-scared for their own lives when passing through these roads 😆
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
@@TheRealJohnSouth that might very well be worse than Jakarta indeed. 😂
@ripias3176
@ripias3176 3 ай бұрын
Those disobedient people about traffic rules in Jakarta are mostly the outsiders or we call it here "perantau" Not all of them but, mostly do You can see less disobedient during days before long weekend like Eid-Fitr holiday. Most of the disobedient outsiders went back to their homeland and i'm truly happy with that!
@johanstravel
@johanstravel 3 ай бұрын
It is really quiet on the roads during Idul Fitri, but I don't think that these violators are mostly outsiders. On the other hand they probably are as Jakarta itself is really small and the original Betawi people are almost replaced by others like Javanese and Sundanese (among others). It's a general problem when on the roads in many parts of Indonesia though.
@Nyembahkolorbugil
@Nyembahkolorbugil 3 ай бұрын
Go to karimunjawa
Bali sidewalks are for motorcycles not for pedestrians
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