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I think it is pretty typical to get a higher FTP on a trainer indoors. You don't have to deal with wind resistance or rough road surfaces etc...

During the ramp test, you keep the same gear and try keeping a steady cadence (rpm) as the difficulty slowly ramps up, the test ends when you cant pedal anymore

@@landonenns In order to increase wattage every minute you need to add resistance by shifting to a harder gear.

80 rpms or higher is ok but not below that. You don't need to go at a cadence of 90

Well to be fair, if you have joint issues maybe it's not the best idea to do all out efforts. Resting to easy/moderate intensities until healed might be a better option.

Its his video, let the man do what he wants

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Not if you focus on heart rate. I knew which heart rate I can sustain on large climbs (often larger then 20min) and went from there. 1st half a little bit reserved second pushing it a little. Ramp test is very in acurate for larger riders that have no problem producing 500W for a min but cant sustain it for longer duration. Just my noobie opinion I just did my first FTP test ;)

It is true that it takes a few tries and some knowledge of your capabilities to perfectly pace an FTP test. Of course, I’m a purist and only believe in steady state 60 minute time trials.

It definitely helps to have done a previous FTP test (or several) to know how to achieve your best/true FTP. My best ever FTP was achieved because I went in with a target of holding over 300W average (Because my previous one left me feeling I could have done more than 290W average). I went off at 320W knowing it would drop off over the final stretch. I got over the line with 302W (287 FTP) but I was in a terrible state. Forget warming down, I just about fell off the bike and lay on the floor of the studio for 10 minutes. I figure that means it was a genuine max effort. I certainly wasn't talking to camera. Also it was in a Wattbike class of 10 people, doing the same thing, with an instructor shouting at us. I never got close to those numbers at home, on my own. Peer pressure helps. FTP isn't the worst 20 minutes of your life .... but it should contain the worst 7 minutes of your life. For me it's 12 minutes in, through to 19 minutes. Once I get to 19 minutes then I know I'll make it over the line and I can hang on in there. There's always a little bit more toothpaste in the tube.

@@leehargreaves7473 I’ve never done the “all-out” effort myself but I have good repeatability at 405 at “sweet spot” so I just round up from there a little. Lol Especially because I do the full 60 minutes and maintain the 405 from start to finish.

@@neoneherefrom5836 I'll look out for you on TV.

My lab test was terrible; the mask leaked and I had to stop the test because they were trying to adjust it during the test. Also I had to insist on a 10' warmup

If you take FTP to mean lactate threshold, then that duration can be anywhere between 30-70min depending on the individual.

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That's true and mirrors my opinion.

your training zones cant surely be that far off? so are you saying after the test your threshold & sweet spot efforts feel too hard? ive always found the ramp test to sit about spot on to set me up for my next training block

Same. I also believe mine is off by about 20 watts as well. I was working far too hard and getting burnt out as a result. I love TR, but I also think there are thousands of riders out there with inflated FTPs who are getting burnt out by training at inflated numbers.

Totally agree ramp test over estimates. Generally due to it being more bias on anaerobic effort

I’d say the ramp test will usually over estimate power for riders with very powerful legs, as a whole though it’s a great way for most to get a FTP to get started.

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Hello, I am new on Zwift, and I have recently done my FTP test, but I don't think my FTP is that because I can produce more power in 20 minutes, so I think there is some problem, maybe some settings on Zwift or on my smart trainer. Can you please tell me that? When I do my training on zwift or a test like ftp, I always feel like I am putting power in, but whenever I see my speed or power (watts), it is very low, and I don't know because what is happening. So is there anything to do on ZWift to measure accurate power and speed or anything? Because everyone I see on ZWift is also riding normally, but their speed is high, and the same on FTP tests they are producing more power, i am telling this because i am a professional cyclist and i know that how much power i produce so please reply to me and tell me what to do.

the trainer must support erg mode

I have the same program but do the 60 minute test after the 20 minute test to verify the result of the 20 minute test that verified the result of the ramp test.

@@MrPeperoni79 I hope you sprinkle in some recovery time somewhere ;-D

@@zbeekerm Yes, I sprinkle in some Sweet Spot to recover ;).

Thanks Noah, I was thinking about doing a video on beta alanine which has similar performance benefits to sodium bicarbonate but with fewer side effects if you take too much