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@Hithere-dc2qx 6 күн бұрын
Funny timing you say people might think he's like Jesus. Strikes me as a wee but if a narc who thinks his way is the only way........ I liked this guy less after McGregor lost. Don't know him personally so this critique of mine is not final
@danielvalenzuelaguitar 8 күн бұрын
Wow, great surprise to see you're doing contact improv. Hope to see you at a jam in Germany one day!
@deadbod4 11 күн бұрын
love your input, btw arent you a tim ferris fan anymore?
@FormsLoptea-im7wp 16 күн бұрын
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@peamutbubber 16 күн бұрын
You dont need a teacher, if you have a brain, you can observe and use what free info there is to guide yourself.
@Rimlavp 17 күн бұрын
I love This Channel ❤ 🇧🇷
@theboysash6736 20 күн бұрын
Dude i absolutely love this, as someone who loves jits, while studying computer science, im grateful that you've brought such a objective and backed approach to learning. This is exactly the type of contenti've been looking for
@thiagoandrade9217 29 күн бұрын
Contrary to some viewers i really liked this type of content, yes it is not a tutorial, yes it is abstract, but this is what it makes this amazing, it is somethinng essential to the point of changing how you view the world, I really don't get how people are asking how this impact how they train or how they learn new movement stuff. It is suposed to change how you approach your interaction with the world, so either the video didn't explain enough or the viewer didn't actually understood or digested the idea enough to the point of himself applying the idea. I didn't agree on a lot of things they said, mostly for me because they atrempt to propose a paradigm and a lot of philosophical problems appeared to me while they were talking so it didnt showed me enough why i should accept this paradigm of mind/body over others it just appeals to some things that doesn't resonate to me, maybe is something that the book would solve, but in the same time a lot of things were really interesting, maybe it is a good way of thinking about your body/mind in this context of interaction with the environment, but we do a lot more than that and i think it falls short on those ends. Anyway we have a lot of pratical tutorials on youtube, even tho yours are amazing, it would be nice to see more of this type of content.
@gwcrecords9630 Ай бұрын
Hey Bren, nice. Love this. I‘ve been wondering for years when the idea that mind / body are two different things would finally be thrown into the garbage can. One thing though: Any idea why the book is THAT expensive?
@gwcrecords9630 29 күн бұрын
Additionally: I still can‘t wrap my head around what this means for strength training. You know, the other day I was running around in the forest with a friend, climbing trees, trying what‘s possible and what‘s not. There I am absolutely able to understand what you guys are talking about. But what about when I want to learn a certain skill that requires a lot of strength? Hoe to do that in a playful, fun way? (That‘s what‘s the whole point, right? 😉)
@MOVIEKICKS Ай бұрын
The information in this vid is golden!
@acartaylan Ай бұрын
Kanal sahibi Türk mü?
@cruzdecaramelo Ай бұрын
This video will be better without the background music
@brynagallagher2304 Ай бұрын
Right on. Thinking reflecting WEIRD-country values of education, democracy, fairness, and egalitarianism.
@fitness Ай бұрын
I’ve always been curious about the ketones. I finally pulled the trigger and made a purchase. The good news is, you made this video a year ago and your discount code still works
@White1nsane Ай бұрын
Yep, I'm from Balkans. Our incomes are not high. So he was always out of reach for me.
@Jules_Juliani Ай бұрын
What is your opinion on animal Flow?
@nTu4Ka Ай бұрын
He's not micromanaging. He's gaslighting you to think you cannot do without him. So you would buy more courses.
@jasonhelmes3015 Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention they are all on steroids
@pedropedro753 Ай бұрын
Dawg, Bren, training 8 hours a day is silly - and you know this. Training EVERY day is silly.
@peterk3028 Ай бұрын
So how do we fix our upper/lower crossed syndrome, or whatever anyone wants to call it?
@pedropedro753 Ай бұрын
great
@Kobe29261 Ай бұрын
Phenomenal work - way above my pay-scale in terms of conditioning but rock on!
@KILLHACAY Ай бұрын
Wow! This approach and system is great! So from this video and others I've watched about it what I've come to understand is that your breaking down a technique in stages and training or semi sparring these stages to learn how to achieve the technique rather than drilling the whole technique in one go
@BrenVez Ай бұрын
Hey Folks! Looks like there's some confusion about the application of this information for movers. All traditional coaching- almost everything you were likely exposed to as a kid, is foundationally based on this traditional, information processing view of perception & movement from psychology. In that model, you sense the environment (badly), fix the bad stimulus, cognitively process your options and choose one from a 'menu' of action possibilities, that's been stored in memory based on previous practice (then essentially compare and contrast between what's happened when you've done those actions before and what's happening now and what you can do to adjust it. What I want you guys to think about as you watch this interview is first: does the fundamental idea of ecological psychology make sense, and do I agree with it? If not, no worries, continue as planned, but the more you listen to these guys, and read the literature, the more I think you'll agree with them- but I encourage you to be skeptical. Don't just take these new ideas at face value- really engage and grapple with them. If you do agree with the base premise though, then it should make sense that we would need to restructure a significant amount of our practice and teaching based on this information, and I suggest that you go all the way 'down the rabbit hole' of ecological psych (starting with their book would be a good area of introduction) & ecological dynamics. Out with the 'repitition is the mother of all skill development', the 4 stages of competence, and the overly isolative drills. Huge insights and improvements will come to those who take this route, especially those involved with more complex, open skill sports, and for teachers. My next video will go into this subject in much more depth applied to BJJ.
@lukassteinmetzer5451 Ай бұрын
It’s funny that nowadays scientists proof what was in some spiritual traditions common knowledge. Alan watts talked about the same thing about 50 years ago. There’s no such thing as a thing 😂
@chrisbarendt4753 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Bren, interesting topic and it's good to see you online again.
@mattdurbin4788 2 ай бұрын
Im just here cuz i wanna move better and maybe not throw my back out getting out of my car. Can someone please point me to the non-cult folks interested in this stuff?
@WantOxide 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, those high level athletes you're talking about: 1.are on gear and can sustain any amount of volume and recover easily compared to naturals. 2. Are paid yo do that everyday
@alexandre7049 2 ай бұрын
4:28 why do you say you increase the volume whereas the man before told you to snatch 40 kg more. doing this you increase intensity, not volume ! it doesn't make senses !
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
Ha. It was more a jab at my technique than actual training advice. Big difference between could and should ;)
@paraworth 2 ай бұрын
Pain is my friend. It’s what informs me at deeper and deeper levels 🙏
@paraworth 2 ай бұрын
What would you do if you could fly as a bird flys?
@paraworth 2 ай бұрын
40 years ago I began my journey. Mixing it up always made sense to me. I wanted to be fit for every thing I challenged myself with. Barefoot most of my life. I free fly paragliders, Hike, lift weights, build things, dance,practice Thai Qui Qui Gong weight train, calisthenics. The list goes on. Movement is life. Be your own guru, make mistakes, reach further, grow. Meditate
@dimitri992 2 ай бұрын
@Bren Veziroglu What do you think about performing this every morning and evening?
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
Excellent if you can handle the volume and want to make serious mobility gains. I would modify the pm routine though given 2x/day frequency
@dimitri992 2 ай бұрын
@@BrenVez How would you modify it if you don't mind me asking? If I do side splits for example, multiple sets allow me to get deeper into the stretch instead of only doing 1 set like you show, would your way be better as it trains us go get deeper daily while cold and not warmed up?
@deaddai 2 ай бұрын
I *think* I understand what is being said here. But I don’t understand how to apply it to make me a better learner, or a better mover. Say if I’m bad at darts, and I keep hitting 2 inches to the left… they say here and we all agree that aiming 2 inches to the right isn’t how you get better. So how do I incorporate this practice to help me learn and train better, faster?
@OrlandoSulli Ай бұрын
Anyone who knows more than me or disagrees let me know! I am far from an expert. From my (limited) understanding, in this example one of the things you could do is increase the variability of your practice. You could try throwing heavier darts, lighter darts, from closer up, and then farther away. Instead of trying to optimize the throwing of your exact dart from that exact distance you build up your ability to see and act on the affordance of throwing that dart. For BJJ or sport contexts that are already highly variable, adding in more constraints and staying away from rote drilling is the way to build upon the context of ecological psychology.
@dragonballjiujitsu 2 ай бұрын
You logic is a bit circular. "Rickson may have drilled the armbar 10,000 times but the reason he catches it is because ........" He would not know how to shut down any and all counter actions without the repetition. You don't get one without the other. If you did, you could watch a youtube video on how to do a triangle, do it 10 times, understand what makes it work and proceed to tap anyone with a triangle. Thats not how learning works. This is how the youtube generation thinks. You don't need resistance until you develop muscle memory. You nailed it at 5:13. Perform the move with progressive levels of resistance AFTER they can perform the move with competence. Thats likely after 3-500 reps. Not 10-20. As a side note I think its funny that every youtuber who does BJJ now thinks they know better than Rickson or the other people who invented BJJ and pressure tested it for 80 years...lol
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
1) this model and video is now dated. You’re now 2 paradigms behind. 2) circular logic means you assume the outcome you’re trying to prove in your reasoning. In the video I clearly stated that rickson’s skill had nothing to do with passive repetitions- there is no mechanism by which even in this information processing model that passive repetitions are going to assist with shutting down counter actions 3) no actually I was very much wrong. Progressive drilling is much better than passive drilling (which is a near complete waste of time) but still inconsequential compared to the CLA and ecological dynamics, which I’ll explain in my next video
@raweriio3306 2 ай бұрын
Why dont you take this a step further, apply a two eyed seeing lens, and see how this is a western description of indigenous ways of knowing?
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
Are you suggesting ecological psychologists are responsible for colonialism? lol. This is a description of fundamental perception and movement, of course there should be overlap with ‘indigenous ways of knowing’ however to say that that’s all this is, or that indigenous cultures already knew ALL of this is in my view a basic excuse to disregard this incredibly rich and interesting science.
@raweriio3306 2 ай бұрын
@BrenVez I'm not suggesting that they are responsible for colonialism. But a lot of science is just "rediscovering" what people already know. We discount indigenous knowledge bc it doesn't fit the disembodied western worldview. What I am suggesting is that we acknowledge this knowledge already exists and for most of human history was normative concuiousness. The fact that this overlaps with indigenous traditions the world over should support the validity of the Theory. Ecological psychology is fundamentally anti colonial, and I use it in my practice with indigenous youth. But the reason I like it is because it sees the world as alive. In the same way that our traditional teachings tell us is true. I get why your first thought was to be defensive. Eco gets a lot of ridicule. But that's partially because it's not in line with the western colonial mindset.
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
Good. I agree for the most part, and if you haven’t already, you would really enjoy anthropology and/as education by Tim ingold. He starts with a very elegant critique of disregarding the knowledge of different cultures and their different means of transmission of knowledge because it doesn’t fit with our worldview. Still, I disagree with your original claim that this is just a new description of old knowledge, (though obviously indigenous cultures were much closer to the idea of direct perception). We call it REsearch for a reason. It’s incredibly important to repeatedly validate our ideas and amass evidence for and against them, no matter how old they are. And if we discover an old idea reincarnated through a new lens, how is that not a new, important, and interesting discovery? What work is it that you do and how do you use eco for it?
@raweriio3306 2 ай бұрын
@BrenVez I never said it was "just" anything. That's your defensiveness coming through again. What I'm saying is that eco psych is western science starting to piece together what indigenous peoples the world over already know. That the world is alive. They just don't describe it with the same words or way science does. The scientists aren't reincarnating anything because that would imply that the that knowledge base died. These traditions have been alive and well. These traditions should be acknowledged. It's only a '"revolutionary discovery" because colonial systems dont give a fuck about embodiment. It being revolutionary is a sad state of affairs for the state of the world we live in. My aim was to challenge you and others to consider a two eyed seeing lense that values both scientific methods and indigenous (embodied) ways of knowing. I run non profit youth grappling programs for indigenous youth. Primarily in my home community. I use cla and stuff in this context. I suspect that the youtube comments aren't a great place to continue this discussion without talking past each other.
@paraworth 2 ай бұрын
Wow you did the ad close to 2 mins
@paraworth 2 ай бұрын
Just commented on your rehab video. You’re a gem. I with you 100%
@jeffreywagman1973 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for interviewing us and for posting this.
@soundskribble 2 ай бұрын
Such a great video! As a chubby kid with no inclination for sports, having grown up to love movement and a variety of different sports, I relate so much to what you say and have been through! Thanks man!
@soundskribble 2 ай бұрын
I've always been curious about Ido and the movement "culture". It changed the way I see and do sports, and how train and live my daily life. Sadly, I think all your points about Ido are dead on, and the movement culture loses because of it. Hopefully what he started can grow and be improved upon by, like you say, a community that flourishes and thrives, bringing movement to the general public! Thank you for this video!
@PeredurJenkins 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Bren, I’m really trying hard to go down the ecological psychology path do u derby and motor learning as well. I’m curious as to your thoughts on the idea of the Bayesian brain and predictive processing, because my understanding is that they contradict a lot of the ideas of ecological psychology, but are commonly used ideas in the world of pain science. Thanks for your time and attention.
@peterk3028 2 ай бұрын
Interesting. But at the same time meh. No real practical tips for the viewers. A handstand tutorial is more nutritious even though its not as academic and complex/abstract.
@maxd1744 2 ай бұрын
I don't think we need more tutorials either. There is already too much consuming, too little doing for the vast majority. I agree the average viewer probably won't take much from this video, though.
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the feedback for practical feedback for you guys- I'll make a big effort for that going forward. That said, this is a revolutionary paradigm shift for how we understand movement and perception that has led to a complete restructuring of teaching for many of the worlds best coaches in various sports and disciplines. We need to accurately understand what is going on to make educated and effective decisions about teaching and learning, and this interview is a great appetizer for that understanding (and their book is even better to start going further). In my next video, the ecological dynamics for bjj documentary, I'll describe the application of this knowledge in depth.
@peter-5354 2 ай бұрын
@@BrenVez Understood. I look forward to the next one, and thanks for all your uploads. I always look forward to them.
@maxd1744 2 ай бұрын
@@BrenVez Of course for you this knowledge is amazing. However, for the average viewer interested in movement I don't think there will be much most people take away from a 1.5 hour podcast about psychology. They want to learn about movement. Imo the average viewer should find a good teacher and start doing movement! Your work is amazing Bren. Don't be too hard on yourself!
@johntornay419 2 ай бұрын
“I do not move myself, I myself move” Gareth Evans
@maxd1744 2 ай бұрын
Also, many others, Bruce Lee about punching, wu wei. Great lesson. Needs at least a lifetime of practice.
@DannyHatcherTech 2 ай бұрын
Love this!
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Danny! Liked your video with them as well :)
@horseheadnebula89 2 ай бұрын
This was great, checking out the book now. I am curious to know if Ido was aware of ecological psychology or if he has an IP theory
@AN043V3R 2 ай бұрын
@@horseheadnebula89 Ido Portal is 100% eco. He may not be aware, but it's clear he is based on his models.
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
Isolate, integrate, improvise is nearly the definition of linear pedagogy. Further, almost all of his training methods extract moves out of the context of their environment- something that we call task decomposition in ecological dynamics. Ido’s methods are fundamentally IP based, there are sprinkles of understanding in some of his posts of the weaknesses of moves and techniques, that doesn’t mean he understands or has read anything about the ecological approach.
@horseheadnebula89 2 ай бұрын
@@BrenVezwow i wonder if eco would just accelerate all the skill acquisition and undermine his whole approach to things, it just seems like so much of what he teaches can be reverse engineered with the right environment.
@moredatesmorefiber3526 2 ай бұрын
the jonny clayton haircut
@moudhaffarsaidi9457 2 ай бұрын
A question, how does ecological psychology relate to the "Palo-Alto" school of therapy (that of Paul Watzlawick, Jay Haley, Gregory Bateson and al.)? With roots in systems science, cybernetics and ecological theory They see the human behaviour as an adaptation to a certain context(s) (with different degrees of learning, or adaptation, because it is not a mechanical process). I've always believed that human movement is a behaviour similar to all others, and that it is an adaptation to a context, but never thought of it in terms of actual psychological mechanisms. very interesting!
@ricciardoricciardi 2 ай бұрын
the woman need a ego check
@AN043V3R 2 ай бұрын
Why?
@ricciardoricciardi 2 ай бұрын
@@AN043V3R talk on other over and over again
@AN043V3R 2 ай бұрын
@ricciardoricciardi they wrote a book together. I guarantee we do not understand the dynamics of their relationship. I thought both were great. And grateful they shared with us.
@ricciardoricciardi 2 ай бұрын
@@AN043V3R don't we understand them? Are you joking? can't you see how he speaks and how she speaks? Don't you see how they are made? Do you understand anything about psychology or not? uhahuauha
@BrenVez 2 ай бұрын
Bro- not sure how clear this came across in the video but they are a great team and work really well together. Julia is much more comfortable answering questions than Jeff is in this format, even though they’re both extremely knowledgeable, which is why she answers most of the questions first.
@MarekOpatrny 2 ай бұрын
Make sense if you're professional athlete e.q. you have that time for the training and you don't have to do any other job. People who works manually works at least eight hours a day as well. It's so natural. I remember once during the high school holiday I had a job as digger. First week or maybe two I was tired, my body hurt, my leg hurt from the work with shovel (yes, there is a technique for work with shovel when you push against the shovel with your leg). After some time I just get used to it. Combining high volume training with every day 9-5 job is another level and not just because of the time but also and mostly the mental pressure. Most of the professional athletes just train and compete and they have all various coaches for all aspects of human being.