Who is The Princess? | FNAF Theory
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@zlbproductions7340
@zlbproductions7340 4 сағат бұрын
The biggest thing this is telling me is that Scott Cawthon is just allergic to telling a story. Instead he chooses to Imply everything and string us along in the hopes that it'll eventually be explained, and it never will be. All we have are pieces, and even if some of the pieces fit together, other pieces fit in the same places, because he's really bad at telling the story he wants us to put together. It's crazy he set up this whole mystery of *who* the Vengeful Spirit is, and then, what, makes the answer "a new character we don't know yet and was secretly there all along"? And then just reveals it in a book? And then it ends up not mattering at all? Awesome, thanks. We don't *know* anything about this stupid series, and I'm honestly getting sick of it. If Secret of the Mimic doesn't actually tell us what the heck is going on at this point, I think I'm finally just jumping ship. It's driving me crazy. I can't handle this for another who knows how many years. It's already been 10!!
@connormarchand6302
@connormarchand6302 21 сағат бұрын
Scott said the books are septate from the games, so technically you are right as Andrew is obviously a parallel to Cassie 😊
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 15 сағат бұрын
Scott only said that about the novel trilogy. He never said that about any of the other book series’. As a matter of fact, with these books he has said “look to the novels to fill in some of the blanks to the past.” “The series will launch with five books, each containing three different short stories with unique characters and plot lines, some connected directly to the games, and some not.” This video establishes they can cannot be parallels because they have vastly different motives and personalities.
@aminethbt885
@aminethbt885 Күн бұрын
Mashallah this is a great take, sad that kids are being fed a lie and believing it as a fact. Also i think the fact that andrew isn't mentioned because he's supposed to be mysterious and always left out.
@Alkeeros
@Alkeeros Күн бұрын
I don't think anything could convince me that Andrew is in the games, short of there being another 8 bit mini game where there's a kid in an aligator mask. You put the evidence together, but Andrew in the games is really, really unsatisfying and, imo, bad storytelling. Imagine if in the original Avengers movie, New York is getting overrun by the aliens and the 6 heroes are almost beaten, and then a vortex opens up, lightning hits Loki in the chest and he explodes, and then the vortex closes. Years later, a comic comes out that explains the vortex/lightning was actually Scromf, from the nineteenth planet from the sun. Scromf never makes another appearance in any other MCU movie, and he is only explained in this book, which may or may not even be in the same continuity. Andrew is Scromf 😂
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety Күн бұрын
Yeah, and it being unsatisfying isn’t an argument against it being true.
@Browhatisyoudoing
@Browhatisyoudoing Күн бұрын
1:26 well this would be a fair point the difference between OMC and Fredbear Fredbear you have to use the “DEATH” coin on golden Freddy essentially killed them which kills you as revenge “the one you should not have killed” Omc you just played the mini game.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety Күн бұрын
Well I see it as fair as it’s how you unlock both secrets. If one has meaning behind it then logically so should the other one.
@Browhatisyoudoing
@Browhatisyoudoing Күн бұрын
“ Andrews is the vengeful spirit” 14 theory: I’m about to end this man’s whole (joke of course great video)
@Trontotario
@Trontotario Күн бұрын
14 theory doesn't at all prove who the vengeful spirit is, more likely it's just trying to connect golden Freddy to a certain number: 14. In the survival logbook on page 31 there are 14 tallymarks, if people are going to use 14 theory to prove Cassidy is the UCN puppet master then they must accept that she's also the one receiving the happiest day which contradicts the role of TOYSNHK.
@thetalbertfiles
@thetalbertfiles Күн бұрын
god you knocked this out of the park
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety Күн бұрын
Thank you!
@thetalbertfiles
@thetalbertfiles Күн бұрын
@ no problem!!
@matthew...4961
@matthew...4961 2 күн бұрын
I love Greeny McSnoot! 0:33
@treavy1
@treavy1 2 күн бұрын
Willam didn’t trap Andrew Andrew trapped Afton in a endless cycle of hell the old saying I’m not trapped down here with you your trapped down here with me
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
I never said William trapped Andrew
@RossLynchFan2005
@RossLynchFan2005 2 күн бұрын
LET HIM COOK
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 2 күн бұрын
Genuine scott just confirmed that frights GIVES AWNSERS to the games Since that’s kind of like asking Is the story complete, in an ongoing story, it’s difficult to answer. So, let me say this instead. *Over the next few years there are a lot of projects planned, and most are very story driven. Lots of the later stories will answer some of the biggest questions from the fan base over this past year, in my opinion.* Very few people will likely ever feel completely satisfied, as there are just too many head canons out there and so many great ideas on where the story could go, but I think there are good things to be found for people who are looking. *All I can do is say that some questions will be answered; even if it may not always be the answer you wanted. Be patient. Let me at least say this; future games will look forward; but look to the novels to fill in some of blanks to the past!*
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
Even if Stitchline isn’t in the games Frights is supposed to be used to answer and clarify things in the games. Like what they’re doing with the movies.
@UnoriginalJokester
@UnoriginalJokester 2 күн бұрын
Personally, I find Golden Freddy being important to UCN hard to believe. Cassidy & TOYSNHK have conflicting character traits & motivations, so I don't believe they can be the same person. However, the other interpretation doesn't sound too great, either. The OMC scene would be incredibly odd if the red bear isn't TOYSNHK, and the 50/20 cutscene being "Cassidy moving on" is incredibly contrary to the obvious visual of Golden Freddy twitching aggressively in the darkness. Golden Freddy being important to UCN just doesn't work in either interpretation. Thankfully, I believe all his appearances in the game have perfectly reasonable explanations that don't involve Golden Freddy or Cassidy being involved in UCN's story whatsoever. - Golden Freddy shows up as UI such as the loading screen in UCN's mobile port, but Nightmarionne is the icon of the game, and I don't see anyone claiming he's important (at least, not without going through severe mental gymnastics). I find UI & game icons to be comparable, since at the end of the day, they're basically the same thing: aesthetics. - I really don't understand why people use the Fredbear easter egg as evidence. There's no reason to connect it to TOYSNHK other than the death coin thing, but even that is weak evidence. It's more likely that this easter egg is just that: an easter egg, only existing because fans wanted Fredbear in the game. - The bear in the OMC easter egg is actually a sprite of Adventure Freddy, so if we're saying the sprite is relevant, that's better proof of it being Gabriel than Cassidy. To say that the sprite being a bear is important, but it being specifically of Adventure Freddy doesn't mean anything, is cherry-picking. As such, it's possible that Scott just didn't feel the need to make an entirely new sprite for a scene so simple, and it was never actually meant to represent a bear of any kind. - I think the Golden Freddy twitching cutscene is nothing more than a sendoff to the game that was itself a final sendoff. Every custom night in the franchise has been associated with Golden Freddy somehow. The custom nights in FNaF2 & Sister Location label their final challenge "Golden Freddy," and if you really wanna stretch it, custom night in FNaF1 has a Golden Freddy jumpscare easter egg. I think this Golden Freddy twitching cutscene is just another one of those. It's a scene that represents how we beat 50/20, the "Golden Freddy" challenge of UCN. No actual lore involved, just a final goodbye type thing. Those are the only four details that can be taken as objective evidence that Golden Freddy is connected to UCN. Every other piece of evidence is interpretive, with no solid association with UCN itself. Not the Logbook, not the movie, not the "Cassidy" screenplay, etc. That's all just circumstantial evidence. So if my interpretations are correct, the idea of Golden Freddy being important to UCN has no objective evidence anymore.
@TaiSaysHello
@TaiSaysHello 2 күн бұрын
the problem is that just kinda makes all the standout golden freddy appearances feel pointless and disappointing. just going "isn't golden freddy so spooky" without any other purpose it's only 4 details, but they're big enough that summing them together makes it clear g.f. is important
@UnoriginalJokester
@UnoriginalJokester 2 күн бұрын
@@TaiSaysHello Just because it's disappointing doesn't mean it's not true. And honestly, 3/4 of those details aren't that big.
@Mike-Bot-84
@Mike-Bot-84 2 күн бұрын
I still think Andrew is the robot from B7-2 that is built onto BILLY (William) and once it has gone to far and the robot is alive... doctors remove the animatronic fused to the child but it remains alive... 2 beings attached to William.... B7-2 is cannon and I'm about 100% sure on that. I mean it even takes all the points you bring up and makes it all 100% possible.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
Billy from the story isn’t William. Andrew is also a spirit so he can’t be a robot.
@Mike-Bot-84
@Mike-Bot-84 2 күн бұрын
@@Glitchxiety so we think, none of that has exactly been confirmed and all representations of Andrew have been either an 8 bit mini game or a direct represent of Andrew haunting William. Even in room 1280 there is 0 mention of him alive or what or who he was. the "boy" they describe in there is a spirit that is with William in the hospital and he himself has no memory of his past. Even knowing that TFTPP is cannon now, I would bet that it has a very big chance of being a reality.... but by no means fact. I just refuse to say "Andrew" was a real kid yet until we can see his origin. B7-2 being William at some point would even make sense to "Reflection" as the robot starts to act like Billy and still does after being removed but a much darker version.... This in my eyes again would be a way of also making sense of how there can be a fully operational Spring Bonnie Suit acting on it's own. Again, not saying fact but spit balling with new info. Plus like I say we have 0 and I mean 0% Andrew is actually a child until proven fact. Mainly why I love that we are going to the past again in the new games.
@tristandimitrijev3195
@tristandimitrijev3195 2 күн бұрын
Princes is casidy they didnt want probably to put that out there they didnt expect peopleto check the files.Casidy is after burntrap traped in softvare with William and is going around finally destroying him, aither in deffenetly or freeing others from his coruption but down the story she didnt complete it so she gave the sword to tehnitian or just pasing the tourch. OMG they made a purpise flip, THe golden boy in movie is casidy the drawing that shows head drawing added on is a mesage switch to a diffrent caracter.
@josuawhite2209
@josuawhite2209 2 күн бұрын
It's not Andrew We have his physical appearance
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, and if we use the face alone it looks nothing like Cassidy either.
@Markcrazeer
@Markcrazeer 2 күн бұрын
counterpoint, the events of into the pit can not be the mci, these events are public, the mci was not. i also dont like the implied timeline, and how it ties into the current perceived timeline. mci happens in 85 and timetravel is involved, fnaf 2 happens, the into the pit location gets turned into the fnaf 1 location and the week before and fnaf 1 happens, then fnaf 1 location gets abandoned, folow me happens(?) then it turns into jeffs pizza then phone dude raids the place and finds springtrap. would this be correct? or is it phone dude finds springtrap then jeffs pizza happens. what year is the present of into the pit? what i think happens is afton does a bad thing in 198<5 at this location and the agony of that event creates pit bonnie who then murders 5-6 kids at this location at around the same time as afton does the mci and a lot of time travel and oswald is involved.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 2 күн бұрын
Its a agony distorted memory
@Markcrazeer
@Markcrazeer 2 күн бұрын
@ yes, of not the mci. Plus. My belief that it is real time travel is just as valid. But even then i didnt nessecarily say it was time travel. Plus. Agony memory halucination is boring and a bit too close to dream theory. The event of the killings at to be keffs pizza was a public event. There was screaming there were 5-6 bodies seen in a party room. That is not the mci. That is closer to the dci. What little i know ofbin to the pit. At no point was any kid shown as a missing person stuffed into the suits. This is an incident like the dci. The yellow rabbit is an agony reflection of a previous killing at this location by afton. Now doing a miror of the mci that is currently occuring in a diffrent location. The only thing tying this to the mci is the date. Everything else makes no sense.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 2 күн бұрын
@Markcrazeer its from the mci Literally RTTP confirms it
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
“Travel back to when it all began.” it’s supposed to be the MCI.
@federicoperazzo9
@federicoperazzo9 2 күн бұрын
Even though I believe Cassidy to be TOYSNHK, this is an incredible video summaring all the evidence for Andrew with neat execution, as well as a really good insight into UCN's story themes
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Lar-xb5uo
@Lar-xb5uo 2 күн бұрын
Personally I liked your theory and i wish that scott could react to theory on the scale 1-10 how correct they got with the lore. But ye this one made a lot of sense and I'M TRYING to be open to all different theories.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
That’s a great way to view the series. Be open to other interpretations.
@carmenlynn5441
@carmenlynn5441 3 күн бұрын
Idk I still have this theory in the back of my head that andrew was a kid william knew way before all the kid killing and bound his soul to his after killing andrew. The reason he's so soul-savy and wants to harness it. First of all the minigame you showed had golden freddy AND fetch who housed andrew. He can NOT be TOYSHK
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
Are saying Golden Freddy and Fetch co-existing means Golden Freddy can’t be the one or the other way around? Because the point is to show Andrew and Cassidy co-exist meaning he would be the one. I don’t think the minigame is as literal as people think it is.
@carmenlynn5441
@carmenlynn5441 2 күн бұрын
@Glitchxiety I think it is, I mean scott had to approve this and with as vague as 90% of the lore is we have to take what we're given. GF and Andrew being seperate doesn't exactly harm either story. Cassidy could be torturing william in a coma because of andrew keeping him alive. Andrew is the catalyst and cassidy is the actionable one
@blueberryelf1150
@blueberryelf1150 3 күн бұрын
All the evidence you presented is done so well and you lay out your arguments very convincingly. I want to believe Andrew TOYSNHK and I have since ITPG but the RTTP 5 dead kids thing is bugging me so much.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
GOD I’m with you on the RTTP stuff. I think it makes sense why he isn’t there for it as the book focuses more on the 5 MCI as there is a plot about HD. Tho this isn’t a good argument or explanation lol. However, it is possible it was saying he isn’t in the games. But how I view him atm is similar to why William is the murder in all continuities and why Cassette man is Henry and his daughter is Charlie in the games if that makes sense. Andrew is literally the vengeful spirit so don’t see why that can’t carry over to the games even without Stitchline. Little hypocritical as I’m on the fence about Hudson being the Fright guard lol.
@blueberryelf1150
@blueberryelf1150 2 күн бұрын
@Glitchxiety No, I get it for sure. Great video! Also, on the whole reflection thing, Andrew being a separate last victim could reflect how Charlie was the first, who tries to help the mci and is represented by the Puppet, while UCN is represented by nightmarione and could also represent Andrew (last of the important victims) not caring about the others only wanting to touture Afton.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
I love that actually
@angelic428
@angelic428 3 күн бұрын
Will never believe Andrew is in the games. Why would Scott add some an important and influential character in (essentially) the finale game. He has zero stake emotionally or lore wise and fulfills one role we already had 10+ other kids/characters to fill instead. Why would he be anything but a parallel???
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
Just because it sucks doesn’t mean that’s not what happened.
@Magama567
@Magama567 3 күн бұрын
Where's Jake?
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
Why does this matter for Andrew being TOYSNHK?
@Dork692
@Dork692 3 күн бұрын
10/10 theory
@jhol2752
@jhol2752 3 күн бұрын
the face and hair doesn't look like Andrew's and there's no alligator mask anywhere. it's a parallel and people have to let go of Andrew, just let him be a book thing.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
Face is of Scott's son. He is a stand-in for TOYSNHK just like Scott is used a stand-in for the indie dev in HW. Scott isn't the indie dev just like Scott's son isn't TOYSNHK.
@jhol2752
@jhol2752 3 күн бұрын
@ if scott wanted it to be andrew he would have made a proper hint like an alligator mask or something related to fetch or the stitch wraith. neither is present. the vengeful spirit is just more likely to be a different character entirely. there's just no reason to introduce andrew to the games story when his own is told and wrapped up itself. it honestly makes the vengeful spirit so much less interesting.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
Ignore the 'Ultimate Cutsom Night' in the beginning of the video lol. Also the shoutout to Ghost is referring to how you could interpret the happiest day as Golden Freddy reversing the sins of William. Making this clear due to the awkward break between the original cut of the video and the added section.
@I_Pizza
@I_Pizza 3 күн бұрын
I dont agree with most of this, but, good video anyway 😅 I think you bring up some solid points about treating Cassidy and Andrew as parallels. Until the end, Andrew is constantly fighting Jake, until he decides to move on. Andrew’s really underdeveloped in Frights, but that is essentially his arc, and that arc’s not been seen in Cassidy at all. Something I’ll note is that the OMC ITPG dialogue is not confirmed to be Andrew, I’m not sure where you heard that. I honestly think he’s just talking to Oswald, he is the one who is playing the arcade game, and depending on his own choices he either gets trapped in the pit or reaches the surface and saves his dad. I’m not sure it makes sense if he’s talking to Andrew, who shouldn’t be there and should be past the point of tormenting William.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
Thanks. The point of that was to illustrate how the two characters in similar situations with their respective pair respond very differently to one another. By similar situations I mean them helping the other soul out, putting them back together as Andrew is also shattered similar to how CC is. I'm talking about HOW it could be used to connect to Andrew, not that he is talking about/to Andrew.
@I_Pizza
@I_Pizza 3 күн бұрын
@@Glitchxiety ah gotcha, I misunderstood that part, my bad!
@Adventist1997
@Adventist1997 2 күн бұрын
​@@Glitchxiety I'm fairly sure It's CC and Cassidy, not Andrew. The log book pointed out them talking, but never mentioned Andrew.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 2 күн бұрын
@Adventist1997 yeah. The comparisons is Cassidy and CC to Andrew and Jake.
@exator911
@exator911 3 күн бұрын
I like the thought you put into it yet you broke your own argument 3 times trying to explain it. First the Scott made games (1-6) are labeled to be in universe inde games made off events that happened, so saying he didn't have a plan when he made it doesn't count when he's building the story as he goes. Next you say that the spirits can't move just by moving parts around but also mention the Stichwrathe, which is exactly that, an endo possessed by spirits who were connected to other things and moved into it. You then say "there is definitely the ability to have souls haunt other items by moving parts of an object to them" which would count the parts used to repair the toys from the withered animatronics. The thought was there and I admire the effort but you can't break your argument as your making it.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
You’re missing the points here. 1) the point of saying it wasn’t planned was because Scott doesn’t go back and retroactively change and retcon things. So the toys not being haunted by the DCI would be one of these changes. 2) Yes, PARTS. Not whole vessels which was the case with Andrew. I explain why I think it works with Jake as he was confused as to how he got there, implying he didn’t even know it was happening. Can’t prevent something from happening if you don’t even know it’s happening. (Or his whole haunted vessel was added to the endo, allowing it to work. 3) I talk about how adding a whole vessel such as a whole endo to a Funtime. They wouldn’t be possessing it, they would be using it as a shell. That’s not possession. I appreciate the comment and thank you for watching.
@exator911
@exator911 3 күн бұрын
@@Glitchxiety I understood the point but I see the flaws in it as well. 1) Scott admitted there was no story when he started just things he kinda threw together, and he did technically retcon things like FNaF 4 not being entirely a dream or the fact of everything in the Scott made games are cannon but not necessarily portrayed correctly, that counts sorta as a retcon or rewrite of what he's done so far 2) Repairing the toys with parts of the withereds would be moving PARTS, not entire vessels, the MCI could be in the toys but fragmented across them. And the books aren't one to one with the games so using the factor from the books of "they need to be willing" doesn't hold enough glue for the games. The DCI could be in the toy's or it could be the MCI, until there's something to prove definitively (which knowing Scott we won't get) we won't fully know 3) That just repeats the same thing in 2 so not much to really say I'm not saying your wrong but I am saying your lacking evidence to say you could be right, a theory is a theory after all
@Afton-ph9uw
@Afton-ph9uw 3 күн бұрын
Because of the new 14 theory, I actually think Andrew does possess Golden Freddy, in fact, I actually think 14 is supposed represent him being the 14th to die after Afton. We have Charlie, BV, Elizabeth, MCI, and DCI, but that is only 13, so Andrew would be the 14th death and the 15th death would be Afton. (Ik characters like Ralph also died but his death wasn’t as important compared to the others) So I think Andrew split his soul with Golden Freddy and Afton, Andrew later on stops possessing Golden Freddy for odd reason, and the rest of the Stitchline series happens. So yes, according to me, Goldentrio theory is real
@Afton-ph9uw
@Afton-ph9uw 3 күн бұрын
8:19 woah woah, the five MCI? I thought BV was the last one?
@PuppetMaster-o1n
@PuppetMaster-o1n 3 күн бұрын
Books are totally valid sources for lore. (Unless it's matpat x springtrap)
@Z_User-d5e
@Z_User-d5e 3 күн бұрын
What about Faz-Goo?
@PuppetMaster-o1n
@PuppetMaster-o1n 2 күн бұрын
@@Z_User-d5e Gregory is Faz-Goo.
@fungames1631
@fungames1631 3 күн бұрын
Great theory dude! I generally like Andrew even more as The Vengeful Spirit, as I don't mind Andrew getting killed in the same location as the MCI, The concept of a victim feeling out of place, as if they weren't meant to be there but still are. It feels like they weren't supposed to die, yet they did. The fact that we can take this concept on Andrew as The Vengeful Spirit is interesting because the whole "The One You Shouldn't Have Killed" has more meaning to it than just a threatened cool title name. It just seems like Andrew's Death is essentially a mistake, a victim that William didn't need to fulfill his purpose but only to be silent, with no witnesses; Andrew didn't feel like a retcon. He just feels different… He is just a victim who witnessed his experiment, so he has no choice but to kill Andrew. He has no purpose for his death. Andrew is a forgotten victim. Even for William. The concept of Cassidy trying to help Andrew out by stopping this because if she can help one broken soul (C.C), why does that stop her from doing that to another soul, reflecting off the man that took her and her friends that is "broken" because of anger... Either way, I really love this theory because I just love UCN lore.
@Trontotario
@Trontotario 3 күн бұрын
36:53
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
What’s up with this?
@Trontotario
@Trontotario 3 күн бұрын
@@Glitchxiety I really like this interpretation so I made a timestamp for it
@AB.TA452
@AB.TA452 3 күн бұрын
Interducing a new character on the game that was supposed to finish it all would be a very stupid decision :/
@Trontotario
@Trontotario 3 күн бұрын
I mean technically Cassidy wasn't introduced until the survival logbook came out, only the 5th MCI kid existed but we didn't know who it was
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
Yeah. But that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
@AB.TA452
@AB.TA452 3 күн бұрын
@Trontotario if it's Cassidy that's fine, but it'd be really stupid if scott decided to interduce andrew as "the one you shouldn't have killed"
@AB.TA452
@AB.TA452 3 күн бұрын
Not a single game mentioned anything about andrew he didn't even have a grave or any sort of acknowledgement in the original games, his whole role is to be a parallel narrative for Cassidy who actually exists in the games.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
He gets no acknowledgement because he is a forgotten victim.
@00lizard
@00lizard 3 күн бұрын
oooh, this is an interesting theory, and I am not a fan of Andrew being in the games! I'm going to have to give this another watch later.
@bloomingbot
@bloomingbot 3 күн бұрын
I think this is a great video, but at the same time I think that Andrew is a way to underscore Cassidy's rage in the game. While the game does not explain much about Cassidy's soul, their murder, or anything about them, they are who exits in the game. So in the books, Andrew is giving explanation to Cassidy in the games.
@Unknowncameraman15
@Unknowncameraman15 3 күн бұрын
Interesting🧐
@emountypitts6811
@emountypitts6811 3 күн бұрын
I Disagree but, great theory. though i must leave you with a thinking point, Micheal Afton isn't cannon to Fazbear frights; either he doesn't exist or died or he just isn't there, there is no Micheal Afton in Fazbear frights.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
@@emountypitts6811 literally pizza sim events happens on frights Micheal is canon
@emountypitts6811
@emountypitts6811 3 күн бұрын
@@Wizardjones69 Fnaf 3 events happen in frights, but, no Micheal, There was always a way planned out in pizza sim, just because it happend it doesn't mean it was him, thank you for responding
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
@emountypitts6811 micheal isn't fnaf 3 protagonist He's pizza sim protagonist
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
@emountypitts6811 literally the ultimate guide says that frights is a sequel to pizzaria simulator
@Trontotario
@Trontotario 3 күн бұрын
Bruh this counter argument is so ret@rded
@echothesilent4693
@echothesilent4693 3 күн бұрын
I've seen people get Freadbeared by a lvl 20 golden Freddy.
@8onnie8oyz
@8onnie8oyz 3 күн бұрын
Those videos are fake. If you have UCN, try it yourself.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
How to debunk 14 theory Tempo theory
@Unknowncameraman15
@Unknowncameraman15 3 күн бұрын
How does this debunk 14 theory
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
@Unknowncameraman15 literally the soundtrack of ucn is 640 Double that and you get 1280
@Unknowncameraman15
@Unknowncameraman15 3 күн бұрын
@ Interesting🧐
@Lmf06
@Lmf06 3 күн бұрын
​​​@@Wizardjones69 Eh, I don’t think it debunks 14 Theory on its own, but ok.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
Tempo theory also isn’t great either. It would work better if you didn’t have to multiply the total tempo by 2 or at all.
@thedarkdevil1661
@thedarkdevil1661 3 күн бұрын
I think Cassidy is more akin to having Jake's personality combined with Andrew's backstory. CC and Andrew are shattered, can not move on on their own, and has limited memories.... They both also can't see and don't have as much control over their suit compared to the other. Cassidy and Jake are kind, want to help the other to move on, can move on their own (OMC game crash and one of the epilogues show Jake was about to move on at one point). They both also have the most control of their suit AND have access to the other's memories (Logbook shows Cassidy knows things only CC knows, while Jake has to force himself into Andrew's memories in frights). The only things that show Cassidy is Andrew and CC is Jake is their backstories before meeting. (TOYSNHK vs The kid who died of a brain injury) Also Jake seems to invade people's memories, in the pit, and tries to rework them into happy ones. Weirdly enough, this is the SAME thing the Fredbear Plush is implied to be doing. Trying to get CC to get past his fears in Fnaf 4, and when THAT doesn't work, Fnaf World happens and Happiest Day is set up using CC's memories. Turning his death day into his happiest day.
@ItsB1998
@ItsB1998 3 күн бұрын
Good video. What you presented in this has brought me the closest to believing that Andrew is the spirit in UCN. However I still have some gripes and things I think you overlooked that is preventing me from being fully on board. If TOYSHK was with Willam while Cassidy was talking to OMC, why would OMC tell her that there was nothing left for her to stay around for? There would literally be an entirely separate Afton victim that is not able to rest. Her being comfortable with leaving Andrew to his never-ending hateful cycle is not only contrary to her character as you presented it, but it stands out as something weird for OMC to do as well. Why would OMC be fine with Andrew not getting rest, but not Cassidy? At that point you'd have to say that OMC just had morally gray favoritism for Cassidy but not for anyone else, and there's no evidence to tell us why this would be the case. You'd also have to argue that OMC was borderline lying to her by saying that there was nothing else left.. it just really doesn't make much sense or hold up. UCN crashing when Cassidy rests her soul in that same scene is also still pretty damning for her having control over everything in the game. That ending scene with the Golden Freddy child from the movie novel that you showed also heavily supports Cassidy being TOYSHK, and I'm not really sure how you felt it was supposed to do the opposite. William is not dead in that scene, he's actively twitching and suffering while still being alive, yet the GF child is happy with that. It's stated that he wanted that suffering to go on forever, so that explicitly goes against him just wanting him to die. Instead of killing William once and for all, he just leaves him there and closes the door. So if it's valid to use what the Silver Eye's shows us of Michael brooks's character as insight onto how Cassidy is, then it's equally valid to use the GF kid from the movie for her character as well. And when combined, the movie and the novel tell us that Cassidy is a caring person that also can be very vengeful. So yeah those are the only issues I have with Andrew being TOYSHK as of now, but they are substantial enough of points for CassidyTOYSHK to still stand. Still good video overall though
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
Blonde boy on the movie literally closes the door and doesn't attach into afton Thats not the vengeful spirit
@ItsB1998
@ItsB1998 3 күн бұрын
@Wizardjones69 He didn't attach to Afton because there was no need. William was already suffering
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
@@ItsB1998 literally its just to start ucn right there And he closes the door, leaving the man to die
@ItsB1998
@ItsB1998 3 күн бұрын
@Wizardjones69 He wasn't going to die. It had been weeks since he got springlocked and he was still alive.
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
@ItsB1998 literally on fnaf 3 it says that if the springlocks are triggered the person will die
@jackattack6583
@jackattack6583 3 күн бұрын
Didn’t phone guy say that they have a criminal database or something and they are also attracted to sound so that’s why the toys come for you.
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
That's one of Fazbear's lies. Phone guy doesn't believe they are haunted so he is going to buy into anything Fazbear says that will explain their misbehavior. He does the same thing in fnaf 1.
@Lorelailoree
@Lorelailoree 3 күн бұрын
Another thing to add to this, we know that the storyteller from the Tales books is in the games, so maybe that could explain why the mimic 1 program chooses to make an Alligator who is really mad at a Bunny
@Glitchxiety
@Glitchxiety 3 күн бұрын
I like that but don't think that's the reason. Monty just didn't like Bonnie.
@Prince_Zero-10
@Prince_Zero-10 3 күн бұрын
Oh damn it I forgot to mention 14 theory and Toy Chica in ucn possibly being Michael not William (due to hand unit on one of the lockers and some other stuff implying this is more so Representkng Mike's journey through the games.) Rip
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
Nuh uh I'm not even fucking kidding if you add up all the song tempos that play in-game (not including cutscenes) you get 640, which is half of 1280. I was actually so caught off guard when I found this I couldn't wait to include it in my next theory, I found this like 5 minutes ago These are all the song tempos: Sleep No More - 130 bpm Sonata for The Fallen - 70 bpm Hibernating Evil - 120 bpm Eisoptrophobia - 110 bpm Where Dreams Die - 140 bpm Last Breath - 70 bpm All add up to 640. 640*2=1280
@Prince_Zero-10
@Prince_Zero-10 3 күн бұрын
​@@Wizardjones69 ? Tf are you telling me this for?
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
@@Prince_Zero-10 14 theory makes no sense
@Wizardjones69
@Wizardjones69 3 күн бұрын
@@Prince_Zero-10 why make the soundtrack be the half of *1280*
@Unknowncameraman15
@Unknowncameraman15 3 күн бұрын
@@Wizardjones69 You’re just coping at this point
@Prince_Zero-10
@Prince_Zero-10 3 күн бұрын
I wondering if I should even bother to comment something. I can't really convince you Andrew isn't in the games I know that enough already. No point rebutting evidence I find faulty when you see it as fitting. And that isn't to diminish your work on this video at all. As someone who has tried to learn how to create and edit videos myself I applaud you. Honestly great job. But in that same aspect I can't really be convinced by evidence from the Novel Trilogy. Because it's dubious at best in my eyes. Scott after Silver Eyes release commented that we shouldn't use it to solve the games. (As a reminder the Ultimate Guide is undeniably faulty and we shouldn't use ut as main evidence in my eyes, especially when a new Ultimate Guide is on the way.) And this has never changed for me. Especially as Scott adamantly goes out of his way to make Game William act in opposition to how Dave and Fright-Liam act. In the games: "You may not recognize me at first but I assure you... It's still me." Dave: "I am Springtrap!" Fright-Liam: "I AM AGONY!" (Betting rn Steve in movie 2 will awkwardly refer to himself as Springtrap) William in the games clings to who he is: William Afton. Not Spring Bonnie, not a god or higher being how Dave acts, or a manifestation of pain like Fright-Liam, but himself. And even if you argue Frights is still continuity despite it not being probable after RTTP (as a note Frailty can be explained as Eleanor exists in RTTP) Fright-Liam is shown to do something that goes against Dave: feel betrayed. His look of longing after Eleanor betrays him and leaves him for dead is what directly causes Charlie/The Puppet to be able to tear apart the amalgamation. The book portrays it almost like he was betrayed by something he cared about. And his only response to this isn't rage but sorrowful longing. And this apl goes without saying Game William views Henry as nothing. Never commenting on him, never ranting about how jealous he is. Yes he did kill Charlie but that doesn't have to over jealousy. And speaking over Charlie: "I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way." As a note while Novel Charlie and Game Charlie are very different, everyone in the books utterly hates Dave and this basically matches up with the movie as well. So Game Charlie not hating him is a very odd decision. And something the Andrew explanation gas yet to explain how/why is Andrew keeping the souls trapped in UCN. Even in Frights when she takes over the amalgam it's not presented as rightful vengeance or fury just the defeat of Fright-Liam. And while you could argue Charlie is just endlessly endlessy caring enough to understand William (How btw?) or she just doesn't give a damn. Both those interpretations still just write off this line. This confusion extends to Michael too btw as his goal is to save his father by releasing him though I know a lot of people in the community like to just Michael a hateful vengeful piece of crap who's out to murder his Dad. Which could not be further from how the games portray him. Even if my interpretation is wrong avout "saving" his dad he never acts with wuth anger in the games cept maybe during 4's minigames. And as a note this whole reflections thing (which I do agree the Vengeful spirit and William are meant be reflections) has to include Michael too as he "is most similar to god" or just narratively is very close to William in some sense. But that is all. I doubt you'd bother to read it and I don't know why I bothered to type it. Good day.
@captainet2457
@captainet2457 3 күн бұрын
What does this have to do with Andrew? Plus, AndrewGame can work without Stichline
@Prince_Zero-10
@Prince_Zero-10 3 күн бұрын
@@captainet2457 Imo Andrew game can't work anymore. But this is basically because he is saying Game William and Novel Dave are one to one which they very clearly aren't and it makes his whole entire Andrew and William are "PERFECT reflections" arguement (which like I said reflections are still important as William and Cassidy are reflections, and Mike and presumably Eleanor) thing kinda mopt because Andrew and William are nothing alike in the games. That was my main crux; the novel trilogy is not good evidence for most if any theory. (This is literally how we got Gregory being a robot btw) Molten Mci, all 5 in the novels seemingly only 4 in the games. Henry built Charlie bots in the novels, not in da damn games. It's very bad evidence in my opinion, especially when William is written in such a way that directly contradicts Dave.
@captainet2457
@captainet2457 3 күн бұрын
@ I’ma be honest I haven’t watched the full video. Tbh, do we even actually know Game William personality? (Plus, how is Dave and Will different personality wise) From my POV, Andrew is just a really angry kid while William is a killer who wants to be immortal and is narcissist and manipulative. So I don’t see how they mirror with each there. (Basically, I agree with you on that part but not the others) TBF, the fandom does make wild theories *cough cough* CassidyVictim *cough cough* that is usually not accurate. Plus, MoltenMCI does have in game evidences. And I wouldn’t say we shouldn’t use the silver eyes trilogy altogether for the lore.
@Prince_Zero-10
@Prince_Zero-10 3 күн бұрын
​@@captainet2457 My response comment got deleted fml. Amyways bye I'ma go read manga and try not to be disappointed in the community.
@captainet2457
@captainet2457 3 күн бұрын
@@Prince_Zero-10 Are you seriously saying your disappointed in the community just because some people believe in AndrewTOYSHNK??
@Narodle
@Narodle 3 күн бұрын
sethxiety drop
@ClavisKey
@ClavisKey 3 күн бұрын
great video ! you really made a great summary of all the evidence and story behind Andrew as a character! also thank you for the shout out! ;D keep up the good work!
@azimuddin1890
@azimuddin1890 3 күн бұрын
I’m gonna say I agree. I’ll give my thoughts. I believe Andrew was made specifically for F.N.A.F.7 as the spirit behind the purgatory like nightmare, and his story continued in the Fazzy Fright Night books. He was probably retroactively added in Crappiest Day (M.C.I) as a secret sixth victim, when all the previous games only said there was only five. So it’s a retcon, he never existed from 2014-2017, so he’s like (game) Henry. Henry didn’t exist in the previous games, he was included as being important of being the original co-owner of Freddy’s and father of Charlotte (Web), but because of the previous five games not having him, he did absolutely nothing because those games weren’t written with him in mind. Same with Andrew, he didn’t exist until the 7th game, so he didn’t do anything until then. That’s my thoughts
@yelrabmena1
@yelrabmena1 3 күн бұрын
i honestly wish henry didn't exist in the games (or didn't have the role he does) because the role of setting the fire to free all the spirits would much better fit Michael, which would complete his arc that was set up at the end of SL. but i also don't get why a lot of people who love henry hate the idea of andrew even though those two are in very similar circumstances
@U1Gaming-qk8py
@U1Gaming-qk8py 3 күн бұрын
If you believe Andrew is toysnhk then explain why he wears a alligator mask
@azimuddin1890
@azimuddin1890 3 күн бұрын
@@U1Gaming-qk8py I don’t know, I don’t think it matters anyways but still.