Re: people who've actually been traumatised (with ptsd and/or cptsd) or suffered a real life consequence for their shitty behaviour (when an immature adult) not getting into online conflict/arguments as much; I think we don't 'go there' when we've had enough recovery and matured to the point where, we truly do empathise with others & where they might be coming from, & realise we don't fucking know what is 'good for them' or what they "should" or "shouldn't" be saying or doing bc we're just another human ("who's wearing socks" -Richard Grannon 🤣) who's just trying to get through life. Imo, much of the online space is dominated by a bunch of emotionally disregulated (going into/living in their limbic/reptilian/emotional brain) children, unable to get out of their immature thinking & back in their rational cognitive brain . As Richard described (if I got it correct?), immature/narcissistic fans/followers have taken a snap-shot/made an avatar of 'perfect' Mark Vincente in their narrow, tiny world-view minds & woe betide him if he deviates from that "picture" /pedestal they've put him on! I really enjoyed this discussion, ty 🙏🏼❤️

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Seek thre truth and stand on what you know and be willing to learn anything with each other together. Simple

Great video.thanksngor pitting it out I will watch or listen to your podcast. I appreciate this conversation.

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Yes but as you say there's only so much any of us can take before giving 'em back a taste of their own blood as they saying goes. A lot of bullies and online trolls don"t back down until they get a knock out verbal punch back, either. Jackhammer politics has been here since the start. Then you've got the Elon Mucks trolling themselves they're so desperate for verbal bloodsport.

some of us don't have an example of this ideal person, at all. not even family

I'd love to hear your take on Boeing. corporate culture,, whistleblowing and NASA's failure to cancel the space station mission

the problem with Hancock is not the idea of previous civilisations. at all. it is the type and level of the technology that he insists exists despite clear ecidence in ice cores and mineral deposits from the time that clearly contradict what should be found if those exact technologies were present.

when every piece of refuting evidence is labled as "main stream media" you are in a cult

This is interesting. When there is no risk of retaliation or punishment people behave in a very uncivilised way - so people behave badly online because there are few negative consequences. Yet recently there have been serious consequences for British people - a 53 year old woman with no criminal record - not a menace to society in any way - sole carer for her disabled husband - wrote something awful on Facebook - namely "They should lock all the adults in the mosque and burn it down". This was in response to the horrific butchering of three little girls at a dance party in Southport. At the time people assumed the murderer was a Muslim immigrant. About ten minutes later she thought better of her comment and deleted it. Too late. Someone had reported her to the police for her comment. In light of the rioting that ensued after the deaths of these children many people have been imprisoned purely for what they wrote on social media including this poor 53 year old woman. So the British government is attempting to police social media with prison sentences for posting 'hateful' comments. In other words they are trying to create real world consequences for online comments. Many people think this is a violation of freedom of speech. I think imprisoning that poor woman for a Facebook post that she thought better of and deleted is a massive injustice and overreaction.

I think if you must deal with a sociopath or a psychopath, though those are broad generalizations anyway, you are better off if they're also narcissistic as narcissism at least puts the brakes on here and there. Narcissism alone has certain fields where its harmless. Business is not one, nor is government.

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The answer of why people do these horrific things to others is summed up in one word: " Money"

Netflix wants to make money.They don" t care about the truth

I miss being among people where one friend summed it up: "I disagree with you, but I see how you got there " They assured each other of mutual respect.

Echoes of past people and pilgrimage.. Check out Rupert Sheldrake's morphenogenic field theory

Jacob Needleman discussed that in Why Can't We Be Good. I love that method of discussion. I wish my family would use it...but they won't.

Really enjoying this series.

Amazing conversation yo

Thank you, Be strong and compassionate, but know boundaries and tolerances. Walk away if possible, but if trapped, escape. Survival is priority.

Gentlemen, beyond glad to find you. Thank you both for being you. I have quite a complex background, online and off but…maybe better just to do me here. You can judge for yourselves. So…..an idea, start normalizing a standard of asking questions..even silly ones. The people who are afraid of contrary ideas is biologically based…you are pulling on their established thinking, which is actually a brain network that is large and well established and their body is producing new connections, which can both hurt and be tiring. Yes, hurt…emotionally because you brain is moving chemicals and creating energy where it isn’t normally going. You can tire extremists out but it takes time for the old networks to shrivel. To start really moving someone open their thinking to questions being a good normal thing…,”I wonder ……. ( if it really reach temperature X today like I heard on the weather, or what I might make for meal x tonight/tomorrow/whenever, or should we use road x or y to get to). The I wonder phrase matters. BTW….quantum is theory, stay real. Rogan is a time waster but good for modern online digital watercooler-very much back in the day-conversation. (Rage…look at the biochemistry.)

Caveat lector.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

What's NLP?

Agree Richard , but hypocrisy much ? Come on man !! Peace Richard /all ! Lets look at ourselves in this modern world and what happened , I remember a Kate Bush song predicting this sh.. ! People on line but not really connecting.

It’s an interesting take, but it’s not accurate. A lie is a malicious act done with the intention of deceiving. Acting is storytelling. Everyone approaches a film/play/series understanding the premise that what they are seeing is fiction. It is the actor’s craft that allows them to find their truth in someone else words, and in another character’s circumstances. Again, it’s not lying, it’s storytelling n

As a child, you already know that something isn’t right about the surrounding behavior. When you inquire about this behavior as a child-you are “put down” in many ways-some which are terrifying and horrendous. The “put downs” are your classical conditioning- this behavior is “the norm.” You will conform and adapt and keep your mouth shut. As you grow and get stronger, you realize that you are being played like a fiddle. The moment that light bulb goes off-grab that fiddle and play. You will scare the toxic people away. And congratulations, you validated that you were a good kid this whole time!

☯️ Hey Mark! I really enjoyed this Podcast! Thanks! ☯️

They rage because their rights and boundaries are regularly trampled and then you get very angry. You can imagine that someone gets angry when you don"t respect their boundaries. Drop a line before the line gets crossed. Be prepared. Firm boundaries. And what are your boundaries? I had weak boundaries and were not strong enough. It can happen unexpected.

A lack of education can come because people dont believe in the school to factory system. Schools should have business speakers come in to tell their stories. Basic money 101 is important for a society. Being very wild and overly domesticated are extremes.

That was a delightful conversation, thank you both x

Never tell people your ideas…instead manifest them into reality and SHOW people your ideas …people only want to know ahead of time so they can steal the dam idea …humans are shit…never share … unless you patented it first 🥴😂😂😂😂😂just saying

Mmmm that’s what they all say…”tell us your crazy ideas”….next thing you know you’re being burned at the stake 🥴 …don’t do it…it’s a trap 😉😂😂

I wonder how the world would be if everyone in the USA listed to Democracy Now: The War and Peace Report for the news every day.

Just 10% of your income if you're Mormon

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Thank you so much. You are so right true and pass would never want to silence people they would want to listen to their perspective and take it into account

No such thing as free speech anymore. Perhaps there never was. Only rhetoric.

A lot of the mental processing mechanisms that we establish break down when confronted by chaos.

You just nailed exactly why I usually keep my comments to myself … I have actually lived in a war of criticism as and I just can’t put myself out there to be cut down by a click baiter … I had kinda wondered where my remorse to comment came from … it was a childhood rife with adverse comments

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Mark I'm an empath and I feel the pain of the world! I think you could very well be an empath as well. Because of the things you have been through, you can absolutely have empathy for others that may be going through the same thing and that is not bad. You really are in a unique position to show empathy to others.✌️

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Mark Vicente and his wife Bonnie are such awesome people. Good people.💜✌️

This was amazing to listen to. Ive had the same thoughts about santa claus and I thought Gordon Hinckley ( who i love dearly) probably thought this could be bull but im going to do the best i can. I feel validated! Thank you Mark ✌️

I love the rest of it, but strawberry slush really is the best.