I have always LOVED dolls and started my adult doll collection in 2022. I already have over a hundred! Black dolls very much shaped my view of myself as a child. I was blessed to grow up in a time where Black dolls were common. However, they were typically one note. There was only one black doll in any line or she always looked the same as every other black doll. I remember when the Barbie line focused on realistic portrayals of Black women, S.I.S, came out. I had multiple dolls from that line but remember thinking they were uglier than the white dolls with their little noses and being frustrated that some had textured hair that I couldn't comb through. Just having Black dolls wasn't enough for me because I was still comparing them (and intrinsically, myself) to white dolls/girls. It's worth keeping in mind I grew up in mostly racially homogenous (caucasian) and middle class parts of the south and midwest. I still think about that sometimes. Thankfully, I have come a long way in my self-image and self-appreciation. Great video, BTW! It was really interesting. I'm glad you're starting conversations like this.
@dorothydiabetes12 сағат бұрын
I always find it so interesting how your "play" with these fashion dolls, reflect the real world. And in turn your own state of mind at the time. Fashion dolls are instruments of projection as well! It's heartening to hear that you eventually worked on 'self-concept' and maybe diversified your surroundings? Nonetheless, it's all a journey! <3
@ariessolarhijiri2985Күн бұрын
You make me wanna make a KZbin and talk about this because I’ve been kicked off of Reddit twice now for speaking up.
@dorothydiabetes23 сағат бұрын
do it!! These topics need to be talked about 100%
@SkyePlayHouse7 күн бұрын
Very interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing ❤❤❤ I’m saving this in a playlist!
@dorothydiabetes6 күн бұрын
I'm so honored I could make it to the playlist! <3
@SkyePlayHouse6 күн бұрын
@@dorothydiabetes ❤
@SkyePlayHouse7 күн бұрын
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@Mary-T35T410 күн бұрын
i am a simple woman. i see melanie lynskey, i click 👏
@carolkoski487510 күн бұрын
I love her because she's literally EAH's Mystique. Like: iconic chaotic evil cunty villain who disguises herself as a teen to get closer to her daughter and direct her towards evil (X-Men evolution) PLUS major sapphic vibes, they're literally the same
@shawnbay221110 күн бұрын
I live somewhere where there isn’t a good doll market. I’m glad I’m @ the age & skill where I can customise dolls. I’m south-east Asian & stuff & I remembered that, yeah, we never had dolls that represented us. I just made & gave my sister a Bratz that looked like her @ she got emotional cuz she always wanted a Bratz that looked like her. Sadly realising now that a lot of ppl ik r still not represented in the doll world … even in Barbie. Having a doll look like u is weirdly extremely healing. There’s a lot of ppl i should make, including myself 🤔
@shawnbay221110 күн бұрын
I’m gonna have so many comments on this video (if they’re not algorithmically filtered). I feel I have so much 2 say bc u say so many profound things in a short amount of time. Hopefully, this will drive engagement. Omg, ur statement on the destruction of art is beautiful … though I do like physical preservation. I’m pro-save-everything, so I typically feel guilty deleting smth indicative of a moment in history, even if it implies smth bad. I like developing or reframing things that r proven harmful. I guess it’s like pacifying or reclaiming. It’s not 4 every cultural group. I can only imagine what witnessing polliwog collector-culture is like. Somebody else choosing what becomes of the thing that affects u is unfair.
@dorothydiabetes10 күн бұрын
I see what you're saying, but there is enough photographic evidence around, and documented. All of which will be saved in the internet archive. Don't mean this in a harsh way...but hoarding pieces of vaudeville for "educational purposes" Isn't the reclamation we think it is. These pieces invoke emotional responses of inferiority and are damaging to the psyche, let alone the collective psyche. I'm very much pro-upload and then delete the file!! You also used the term, "pacifying" as a way to soothe our collective discomfort. But I argue that destroying these pieces sends a clear message in what we as the black diaspora, are no longer willing to tolerate. The collapse of colonialism will take radical action and thinking. I say we consider a collective, historical burning of these items.
@shawnbay221110 күн бұрын
I’ve noticed in NZ that we get A LOT of Black fashion dolls … sometimes, more than any other from the line. I suspect it’s bc whole countries don’t order them. & that’s frustrating bc I can tell they’re still successful. I suspect we only get the dolls no other country wants but they typically always get sold, regardless. I was so shocked when I started collecting & the isles were entirely stocked with Black Barbies. Like, “oh no, I was worried they were unpopular 😮😢.” Then in a few months they were completely gone. Then it happened again the following year. The stores get flooded & they’re all sold. The only time they’re not is when they’re expensive. I have so many experiences now trying 2 get Sasha online where it’s available 4 me & they all get sold in a day. I swear ppl want Black fashion dolls but stores don’t believe us.
@dolls2remember10 күн бұрын
amazing video. great work! this was so informative and I learned so much. thank you!
@dorothydiabetes10 күн бұрын
It's what I do <33 ty
@theactingfantasy10 күн бұрын
Good video! The only thing I disagree with is that we should destroy past racist figurines and caricatures. I don’t think that people should be allowed to purchase them to display them in their homes, but they should be available as part of museum exhibits on the history of Black Americans and Jim Crow. Destroying them makes it easier for bad actors to deny any wrongdoings both past and present. It’s harder to deny white supremacy and systemic racism when evidence of it stares you right in the face. I really like your in-depth research and how you interviewed people to get their experiences and perspectives. Great job!
@dionneking810 күн бұрын
I love black dolls
@Alexardelean8910 күн бұрын
I went to a doll show in South Carolina in the late summer and there was this creepy plastic golliwog doll there. I didn’t notice it but my friend did. I found out later what it was and where it was from and I couldn’t believe they had the nerve to show that there. I grew up having several dolls of all races. I didn’t understand the meaning I just didn’t want my dolls to look the same.
@dorothydiabetes10 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's so disturbing to have these golliwogs at conventions and doll-shows. Very very outdated and embarrassing.
@maddmaxxpain10 күн бұрын
I remember seeing a whole cabinet full of the mammie/butler salt and pepper shakers on consignment at a popular antique store. The next time I was there, they were all gone. I have found a few private museums that collect for the sake of taking them out of the market. I vote they take pictures, publish them, and burn the artifacts. It’s already illegal to sell the memorabilia; it’s time to enforce it!
@phillipnewhouse437911 күн бұрын
As the white uncle whose heart is owned by his Black niece, thank you for this. It will help me be a better uncle to my favourite person in the world.
@dorothydiabetes11 күн бұрын
So happy that I could shift your perspective! <33
@phillipnewhouse43798 күн бұрын
@@dorothydiabetes she has been my favourite person in the world, since she walked into my life, aged nine, and stole my heart with a smile.
@benamisai-kham589211 күн бұрын
Damn, i didnt realize this was such a big thing tbh I grew up with dolls of any race, they're dolls 😭 It's just a culture shock thing i guess? My mom had a lot of the vintage black barbies that she passed to me excitedly, i had quite a few of the other 00s releases too, male and female. But it isnt completely a foreign concept to me because my neice around 5 years old got upset she got a doc McStuffins doll because she was black...my mom and i both had such a talk with her to explain why her statement holds weight and why its harmful to others.
@charlesbian11 күн бұрын
This video is amazing! I listened to it while animating :D
@Itsgay2read11 күн бұрын
Even to this day, and as far as fantasy skin tones, we still see doll companies lightening dolls, trying to be more "palatable". We also still see Black dolls being released later than their nonblack counterparts.
@monstresynthetique364410 күн бұрын
In my area (a very urban and quite multicultural part of Canada), we often don't even receive the Black dolls of a line. I've waited for an articulated Barbie for years and she never showed up while her blonde counterpart kept being restocked every season. It also took Walmart quite over a year to bring the Naturalistas to their shelves, and we haven't even seen the Latinistas yet! Monster High Venus has just arrived too and Catty is still only available through Amazon, while other dolls generally show up about at the same time as their US release or a month later. It's really frustrating.
@shawnbay221110 күн бұрын
@@monstresynthetique3644my experience in NZ has kinda been opposite. Since we’re considered an international country, getting most fashion dolls is expensive here 4 stores & ppl. Some of the only dolls I c from a line is an excess of the Black doll. I don’t think it’s the phenomenon of consumers not getting Black dolls. I think since every store in some countries simply doesn’t order the Black dolls in a line, they get cheap enough 4 NZ stores 2 order. I swear I c 5x the amount of Black dolls from a line sometimes. Sometimes, they dont sell very well but i frequently notice the shelves still get cleared out, even with the volume of these orders. It’s frustrating that some countries just dont get Black dolls when, in my perspective, they sell well.
@shawnbay221110 күн бұрын
@@monstresynthetique3644(2nd attempt trying 2 post this comment 😬). I swear they sell well in my country (NZ). We get 5x the amount on shelves compared 2 other dolls & the shelves still get cleared. I’ve seen entire isles of Black Barbies get sold after a few months. I suspect we have so many bc other countries exclude Black dolls & that probably means they’re cheaper 4 stores 2 order. I just don’t understand the nation-wide prejudice bc, in my perspective, Black dolls r just as successful. I’ve noticed, as long as a doll is cheap, it’s getting sold.
@Ducklemon88511 күн бұрын
I’ll explain it. White girls have 4 hair colors (blonde, brown, red, and black), Latina/middle eastern people have dark hair. Black people have dark hair, Asian people have dark hair. Doll makers are being more inclusive than you’re trying to project. The same reason they don’t have multiple black characters in a line is the same reason they don’t have multiple blonde characters in a line. It’s not that deep. It’s about trying to make an option that fits everyone. No one complains there’s not a lot of doll characters with red hair or who are Asian or Latino or middle eastern. This narrative is so old and tired. The world has a long list of problems and you’re just making an issue out of nothing without considering that white people have 4 shades of hair and black people have 1 shade of hair. Simple answer. It’s not out of balance. It’s actually perfectly balanced if you think about it.
@deividcarvalho352511 күн бұрын
But... They absolutely do have multiple blonde dolls in a line lmao
@deividcarvalho352511 күн бұрын
Also... why is it that they're capable of having multiple white dolls with different hair colors (and even the same ones!) and they're only able to have one black doll and that's it? Lmao And the fact that the white dolls sometimes are brunettes or gingers instead of blondes doesn't make them more inclusive, they're still all white dolls lmfao And people do talk about asian and latino representation. This is why Jasmin and Jade from Bratz are seen as important dolls along with Sasha
@mchjsosde11 күн бұрын
Considering these are dolls and we are arbitrarily using a dolls hair appearance to decide how much or little to represent a whole race of people, they could make a black doll with any of these hair colors. We all know that plenty of people dye their hair, why do these dolls need a "naturally biologically occuring hair color"? And even if they should, you could have a black girl with dark hair and a black girl with brown hair, plenty of black people have light hair. If you can have 4 varieties of white dolls for the sake of hair, why not acknowledge the culture of hairstyling and have an afro doll, a braid doll, and a straight haired doll, a dreadlock doll? I guarantee you little girls would see the difference and be drawn to each one distinctly. And it's frankly stupid to decide these things on hair color. Black people come in all shades, why not have diversity because every black person I've ever met has a different skin color. Asian, Middle Eastern, South American and White people too, have different undertones that could be represented. Or eye color. Not all black people have dark eyes, there is light brown and hazel that could be represented. Edit: A white friend of mine wanted to point out that this leads to vastly over representing the number of redheads (they come from a family of redheads in every doll line) meanwhile millions of black girls get maybe one each doll line.
@dorothydiabetes10 күн бұрын
What an arbitrary comparison?? Comparing hair color to race is like comparing apples to oranges. I think u should've just kept it at "It's not that deep". Because your logic doesn't make a lick of sense, unfortunately. But, yes. Race is that deep. Srry that you lack nuance and critical thinking ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@thegillmachine10 күн бұрын
No way you legitimately believe this. It’s insanely racist and most of what you said is false- esp that there’s only one doll of a certain hair color per line. Let’s count how many blonde Millie dolls are in a Barbie fashionista roll out, even though they are considered to be one of the most diverse doll lines (fashionistas in particular). Why can’t you make your non-white dolls blonde or red headed, also? Or a fashion color? This is just your flimsy excuse at exclusion and it’s pretty outdated. Collectors love to have black dolls with blonde natural hair or Asian red head dolls.
@raredoll11 күн бұрын
this is a very beautiful and very informative video ✨
@stephaniehagerman265212 күн бұрын
I’m so annoyed that the children were not instead asked “ are both dolls pretty? “ and then “ or are both dolls ugly?” And then ask “ is one of them bad? Is one of them good? “ like please set up the questions from a neutral stand point , don’t set the experiment up for bias
@dorothydiabetes12 күн бұрын
I think the point of the exp. was to show that there was bias, to begin with. Both dolls came from the same company. That was the neutralizer. They were the exact same except for skin color.
@dorothydiabetes12 күн бұрын
I also feel like a "yes or no" response is inconclusive and giving too much power to the conductors of the experiment. Rather than giving the participants of the experiment an active choice.
@stephaniehagerman265211 күн бұрын
@@dorothydiabetes yes you are right I agree
@venereveritas12 күн бұрын
Thank you for this deep dive, the video was fascinating.
@quis399012 күн бұрын
I personally wouldn’t recommend clawdeena9, they have some history that isn’t that great, but I would recommend Chanel’s like: peace.love.and.plastic zombiexcorn myfroggystuff courtlyjester I feel like these channels, give a better point of view of the doll community without any of the negative history.
@vdw212 күн бұрын
i definitely have been radicalized, thanks black woman 🤎
@kyleesimone12 күн бұрын
growing up, my great grandma had a 2-3-ft life size black doll that i found quite unsettling... but after watching this, i have a newfound appreciation for that doll. it makes me contemplate her childhood-growing up poor in the 20s-30s in the rural south, where she likely didn't see representations of herself in the media unless they were hyperbolic. as an adult, i never thought much about my dolls, but i am now very thankful for my black dolls. with the knowledge i have now, i make sure to only purchase toys that resemble our skin color for the lil ones in my family. this was a *heavy* watch, but these underdiscussed conversations are VERY necessary! thank you for sharing :)
@riversofbutterflies12 күн бұрын
I’ve just started thinking about black doll collecting. I’m grateful that my parents intentionally choose black dolls for me and my sister. My favorite black Barbie was 2004 Birthday Wishes, I had a So in Style Barbie, and Yasmin was the Bratz doll I thought I looked the most like. I was excited to see the Natralistas doll line with natural hair. I’d love to see Bratz designs with Afro hair in the future.
@carapowell3068Күн бұрын
Whenever I see Naturalistas, HBCyou, and Positively Perfect dolls and stores I always get jealous of modern little girls and all the wonderful (Black owned!) dolls they get to choose from! I second that about the Bratz. If I remember correctly, there has only ever been 1 Sasha doll with afro hair. I think it was Dance Crewz Sasha.
@ECoulter-lv4ib12 күн бұрын
“I am pro destruction and pro creation” goes sooo hard tbh.
@ECoulter-lv4ib12 күн бұрын
I just found u and your piercings and hair are so iconic
@dorothydiabetes11 күн бұрын
Why Thankyou!!
@whiteegretorchids823412 күн бұрын
I got this video on my feed and when I checked how many views it had and I was shocked at how little views it had. And then I realized it got released around an hour ago, but then I noticed how little subscribers you had and got shocked again. This is such a good well made video and it deserves much more attention than it has even though it just got released, I’m so glad i got this on my recommended even though I normally just listen to music on youtube
@dorothydiabetes12 күн бұрын
I <3 this comment sm! And, for sure. I'm definitely slept on lmao
@whiteegretorchids823411 күн бұрын
@ I hope the algorithm recognizes that and picks your content up more!!
@butwhytho____12 күн бұрын
ahhhhhhhh i love it here 🥰🥰🥰🥰
@nicolesherman897412 күн бұрын
She’s backkkkkk
@چینیوالدАй бұрын
someone pls enable subtitles i wanna understand soooo bad 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Reed5016Ай бұрын
As a masc lesbian, I support my femme sisters in being assertive in their rejection of men, and deceptive as well. Whichever approach serves you best and keeps you safe.
@oofoofoofityoofАй бұрын
The fact I too was a massive teacher's pet as a kid and I'm also very queer (I do have a great relationship with my mother and my queerness was never really masked very well though) honestly clicked because I saw Twilight and honestly Sunset is very much my teacher's pet vibe because I also went a little rogue later on because I was disappointed in my ability to keep up and function at the required level (being disabled and no longer able to make up for it to the same level I could before definitely hit me hard in year 9, I dropped from mostly As with a few Bs and a C in PE/Sport to a single A and mostly Bs and Cs + a D in PE/Sport because the learning disorder means I can't actually write properly so I couldn't take notes in class and the AuDHD doesn't help with retaining information especially since there was external stress as well)
@rosanisheliosАй бұрын
That was so informative, and you're so effortlessly funny!! The "Darling Charming's Victimized Mother" section literally got me speechless... Like damn, that's a thing. I agree that it is wild that EAH characters are characterized well enough (with relation to the actual in-series world as well), to be psychoanalyzed. I think that lots of the stuff u brought up are part of the reason EAH has such strong staying power in our subconscious... Like, there's just so much to think about, and when you start thinking about it- it just gets worse 😬 (or better?)