Is there a connection between lesbianism and misandrism?

[@whatthehellamilookingat9149]

Sorry for the long comment I just have a lot of thoughts about this Personally I think the reason there's a connection between misandry and lesbianism, is because of just how badly a lot of men treat women. I think when you're not atracted to men those rose tinted glasses go away and it becomes harder to excuse a lot of the things they do, I know I've had this experience from thinking I was ace for a long time and being friends with mostly men because I'm butch and always have been masc leaning, and once I realised I was a lesbian and started embracing it, being a part of the community it opend my eyes more to the shitty things that men did around me, that I had always made excuses for, and it became harder, pushing back on it, not to resent them after a while I still have a lot of guy friends, and funny enough I was bullied by women when I was younger, and still tend to find it harder to be accepted by women because of my butchness, a reason why I often find it easer to make friends with guys, but I can understand why a lot of lesbians get pushed that way and end up hating men, I think it's just the product of the material conditions they're experiencing

[@Reed5016]

I have the same experience. Though I’m not really friends with many men anymore. Because even though I’m a butch, I’ve dealt with a lot of men who didn’t respect my lesbian identity, and tried to get with me an manipulate me into going out with them. Also, men who told other people I was their girlfriend when we were just friends. The lack of respect from those men has made it hard to befriend men. The only guys I’m friends with are gay, aromantic and/or asexual.

[@gii_iio]

As a misandric girl, i literally was questioned myself about the fact that i can feel sexual attraction to men, but i just can't have a relationship with them. Most of men are so rooted in patriarchy, its like part of themselfs. I had problems this week with a male friend, I feel that even maintaining friendships with men is a tiring process and that it doesn't benefit us at all. The hardest part you mentioned is when even your female friends are sometimes so resigned to the patriarchy that it becomes difficult to create a connection with them. I feel it, sometimes i just feel so far from them, its not easy. I never talked to a girl in real life who has misandric thoughts like me. It becomes harder when they talk about how painful it is to lose their virginity, and about satisfying men and things like that. I just can't get my head around the fact that women take hormones just to have sex. Like?! it doesn't sound fair, because it's not. Being with a man doesn't benefit us at all, even if you are sexually attracted to them. Btw, You have no idea how much your videos mean to me. It's so good to know that I'm not alone and crazy. Please keep talking about misandry on your channel, I feel like more women should be honest about it. (Sorry for my english)

[@mothtarts1198]

i’m a lesbian who honestly honestly has felt more comfort from a lot of straight men then i do from women most of my life. (i’m also nonbinary so this may have an influence on all this as well) i’ve noticed that a lot of women who claim to be allies only really mean this about gay dudes? and some of my closest friends are gay dudes, but when i make gay jokes in a similar vein to the ones they make, or present masc and chose not to shave or man-spread and such i am judged while they are praised for their more stereotypical gay mannerisms. on the other hand straight men will roll with me bringing up my lesbianism easily, this is especially sad but i find it easier to talk about my relationship problems more with straight men than women, even queer women. maybe im just a victim of the patriarchy but i’ve always felt super heavily judged by most women. there’s a sense of competition with women and even when i explain my gender and queerness i still feel it. again i am not saying all men or women are like this and i have experienced awful hate crimes from straight men (armenian men who claim im a failure as an armenian but that’s not what this is about) its all super complicated but despite this i still hate men. i hate craving their approval and seeking for a father in every older man i meet. life be weird

[@mewmew6158]

In reference to the Delilah Bon section, I think being willing to be staunchly against patriarchy after being bullied by women makes perfect sense and isn't in any way, a contradiction. Many girls and women bully others based on yt supremacist and patriarchal ideas that have been impressed upon them from a young age. When you grow up and learn that the reason those girls from school were or those women from work are so mean is because they're indoctrinated, it makes sense to be a force of deprogamming. (Yt supremacy is important to add because those ideals harm us all and is deeply intertwined with patriarchy)

[@dorothydiabetes]

I agree completeley. I just want to acknowledge the willpower it takes to stand up for women despite being bullied repeatedly by the same people whom you are standing up for. It can be easy to resort to back to 'default patriarchal thinking' when you are constantly shamed and brought down by other women. This is why I call it paradoxical in a way... I often wonder if I am alienating myself in this society by having such 'radical' views. Women (esp. those operating within comp-het) will often take issue with my non-conformist view points; as do men of all sexual orientations. I want my "ethics to be rooted in love", As Bell Hooks says. However, this is the very reason I take on my misandrist persona. I understand that there can be no love before justice. I want women to have the power to be as bold as they choose to be, and if this means cutting off men for their own peace of mind, I totally understand enacting "radical change" for the betterment of themselves and in-turn, society.

[@pipin2227]

Yeyyy, I'm so glad to see your videos again

[@Lulu_Loves_Sheep]

We're glad you're back!💜

[@nicolesherman8974]

Yay, you are back!

[@KimPossible666]

I would love a longer discoussion about this but it was kind of hard to understand what you said in the video, the volume was very low and the way you speek made it hard to understand some words. Good video tho im happy this thing is talked about because there is a huge power imbalance between man and women, and man are usually a huge threat in a womans life.

[@dorothydiabetes]

aha, yes! I would definiteley make a longer video on this. And as for the audio, I'm using my laptop mic lol but it'll get better once I get back into service on a frequent basis

[@dorothydiabetes]

The real question might be.. is misandry really that big of a deal even if some women admitted to it? But let me not ruffle the feathers of peacock patriarchy

[@DBurg.]

I think that misandry is bad, but we have wayyyyyyyyyy bigger things to deal with first

[@Fatuphoria]

Misandry doesn’t exist bc that would imply that women had power. Also, misogyny is so ingrained in our culture that we (women) cannot escape it no matter how hard we try. If you get off the internet most women are very male-centered (subconsciously and consciously).

[@cesaralejandropintoleal8129]

Like, in no way I want to monopolize the conversation, but I will comment anyway, but I'll comment anyway, so you all have different perspectives, in case you want them. I am a white queer cisgender man. I'm from Latin America. I was born, raised and currently live in a latin country. And i could relate with most of the things you expressed, especially finding hard to stablish friendship with men and the "misandrist persona", even when I wouldn't describe myself with that word. Even knowing I don't precisely share exact experiences with women, (specially queer, disabled and/or racialized) sometimes I wonder if this position of dismiss, rage and weariness toward them comes from the resentment of not being putted in a pedestal, and if i'd be such a quasimonster if i'd be otorged such privilege. Anyways, good video. Keep going.

[@Pinkywinkykinky]

Yip my yapper!

[@pacoloco1991]

Are you a rounwytha by any chance?

[@yassslay8269]

A whatt

[@pacoloco1991]

@@yassslay8269 a type of sapphic witch. I wondered it because she mentioned that she spent some time in the woods, and there's a 3 month gap in between her videos, that started in mid may and ended in mid august. The order of the ninge angles (of wich im a member) bases most of its theology in the rounwythan tradition, and mid may is an important date for the ONA. In addition to that, according to ONA texts spending 3 months alone in the wilderness is a rite of passage, so i figured that she might have something to do with all of that.

[@ghkdus030]

as a fellow black lesbian please delete this

[@dorothydiabetes]

I think its imperative to have a discussion revolving around patriarchy, men, misandrism, lesbians... etc. I'm not deleting my content just because you are uncomfortable with the connections I'm making.

[@ghkdus030]

@@dorothydiabetes you ‘not all men’-ing throughout this video and your connection of sexuality to man-hating lacks understanding in the politics of so many far-left lesbians. all men means all men, misandry is not real, and patriarchal structure only harms men because they continue to allow it to. being a lesbian does not make you ‘obligated’ to women or feminism, it is clear by your video.

[@dorothydiabetes]

@@ghkdus030 eh, I think you misunderstand my claims. I also don't really refer to anyone else or any other lesbian. I'm mainly talking about myself and my experience as a lesbian who leans into men-exclusionary tendencies. However, I do see how lesbians don't hold an "obligation to women or feminism". They don't have to, I'm just wondering if lesbians are more likely to be seen as "radical" within feminist spaces? I'm wondering if there is a difference between comphet feminism and lesbian/sapphic view points. Also.....the not all men thing? huh-

[@ghkdus030]

@@dorothydiabetes everything in your video comes across to me as a cry for help. comphet feminism isn’t something i can find sources on. and like ive said, misandry isn’t real. you skim your video to reply to me about what you said. it is just really embarrassing. i don’t know how long you’ve known yourself as a lesbian so i wont judge too hard, but you need to start letting your lesbianism be the thing that radicalizes you. not the cis-male discomfort at sayings like ‘KAM’.

[@ghkdus030]

@@dorothydiabetes misandry is not real, your entire video comes across as a cry for help, and i think you need to let your own sexuality radicalize you instead of male discomfort with ‘extremist’ jokes about them. you repeatedly say ‘not all’ in various ways. best of luck to you. this video just gave me embarrassment, that’s all. because this is not a real discussion that actual far-left lesbians or our bi allies will usually ever concern themselves with.