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@bigsparkz9902 Күн бұрын
Hi Sam, The top generation rate is now 71.85p per kWh (Until it goes up again in April)😃
@jeg1972 Күн бұрын
We had a Zappi installed in October 2024, we only had a 60 Amp fuse but Northern Powergrid wouldn't upgrade us. They said because we didn't have any other power intensive equipment e.g. Heat pump etc. that 60 A was enough.
@victorvdb777 Күн бұрын
how much do they produce in winter in comparison to the south panels?
@JamesEdwards860 3 күн бұрын
I think the generation meter comes down to interpretation of the guidance. I’m in agreement with the efix video that the requirements of needing to see generation data is met by the apps that these systems connect to. The readings are seldom needed for export payments these days as the vast majority of these customers have smart meters.
@OvalRenewables 3 күн бұрын
I agree with that. It’s more about what the MCS certificate needs. It still required generation meter details
@JamesEdwards860 3 күн бұрын
Fair enough - I wasn’t aware of that 👍
@MARTINA-gc3tq 3 күн бұрын
Haha……solar panels on a house in the northeast of England…..😊
@OvalRenewables 3 күн бұрын
They work all over the country!
@MARTINA-gc3tq 3 күн бұрын
@ especially if the sun ever comes out.
@mjelectricalcontractorsltd5127 5 күн бұрын
Pretty certain the Libbi has surge protection built in on both Dc and Ac side
@OvalRenewables 4 күн бұрын
There is D.C. surge on the D.C. side apparently. We have since removed the D.C. surge on future Libbi jobs. At the time we were sceptical that it was actually inside
@simondalling7489 5 күн бұрын
Why only two screws, I would put 4 screws in and space them as far apart as possible rather than as close as possible like you did it.
@OvalRenewables 4 күн бұрын
All depends on your hook and rafter size. The holes are staggered so you will only got 2 in it 3 at a push
@Tony-fl3rl 5 күн бұрын
Again a very tidy and professional job
@OvalRenewables 5 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@chall1090 5 күн бұрын
6:17 apologies if you've been asked before but what components do you use to make up your DC surge protection devices please ?
@OvalRenewables 5 күн бұрын
The surge protection devices are 600v DC SPD’s from surge protection devices. We use some three port Wago top job connectors and an 8 module Gewiss enclosure 👍
@adrianupnorth 5 күн бұрын
Really sensible point about smoke alarms. Regardless of battery installation get a decent alarm system. It's your life and biggest asset. Love the install and clear explanations. Looking to invest in a system next year.
@OvalRenewables 5 күн бұрын
Thanks, we really believe it is a no brainer but it’s hard sometimes to get that across. It’s one of those things that you don’t need until you need it! Drop us a message when you are looking and we can get you a quote together. We cover nationwide 👍
@robbenson4598 6 күн бұрын
Had Octopus install a Zappi. Myenergi can’t get their app to work, nor can Octopus complete a test charge. All I have is a charger that cannot work intelligently…..marginally better than a 13amp plug! I agree that the Myenergi products look good but I wouldn’t touch one of their products again, nor would I buy anything from Octopus other than electricity!
@OvalRenewables 5 күн бұрын
That’s really sad to hear! Drop me an email to [email protected] and we will see if we can help! I would be extremely surprised if it’s an issue with the myenergi kit as I’ve never had an issue with the app.
@BlackCountryLad 6 күн бұрын
Let’s see you fit the new Givenergy All In One with built in inverter?
@OvalRenewables 5 күн бұрын
Haha we will see!
@oatzman213 6 күн бұрын
Sent by the channel @garydoessolar - Great insight, thank you! Do you guys cover the Nottingham area?
@seantormey3531 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video. Happy New Year to you and your family.
@OvalRenewables 5 күн бұрын
Same to you!
@tonywebb9909 6 күн бұрын
Nice to see you using red and white string cables, these were the colours we used in the old days for DC.
@OvalRenewables 5 күн бұрын
Yes indeed!
@tonywebb9909 4 күн бұрын
@OvalRenewables it would be great to see you do a short video showing that the red cable must have it's positive MC4s pointing towards the inverter and the negative plugs pointing towards the panels. So many installers are getting this wrong since this boom we are having. HNY
@dudel74 9 күн бұрын
Great update. Have you seen the carbon sell back add in too. £500 a year refund
@rondo122 10 күн бұрын
that's good practice!
@OvalRenewables 10 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@neilbissett1240 11 күн бұрын
And breath 😂😂
@OvalRenewables 11 күн бұрын
😂
@davidsandilands1285 13 күн бұрын
Interesting video but no cost case analysis south v north
@OvalRenewables 10 күн бұрын
Thanks! I stayed away from the cost side of things as the customer didn’t give us permission to share cost. I wanted to show the main stats so that anyone could make their own assessment based on their own situation. Each install is different 👍
@Stevencanfix 13 күн бұрын
Nice touch the paperwork holder, put a QR code at the bottom of it below your logo for people to find your website
@OvalRenewables 13 күн бұрын
Thank you! We are actually developing something like that! 🙏
@davidcoates6768 14 күн бұрын
Nice install. Did you recommend that they get a heat pump to heat the pool?
@OvalRenewables 13 күн бұрын
Thank you! No we didn’t to be honest as it’s a bit outside our scope. We didn’t want to suggest something that didn’t work! 😅
@mouseanon-n4c 14 күн бұрын
I think they work great in Australia
@OvalRenewables 13 күн бұрын
😂😂 yes of course.
@brianpearson2532 14 күн бұрын
I’m curious at to what the latitude of the house is for this installation? Given my roofs 8:12 pitch and my house being located at latitude of 42 degrees N, I’m trying to compare the numbers in the video to what I might expect with a simliar setup.
@OvalRenewables 10 күн бұрын
Hi there the pitch of the roof is 30 degrees
@jabberwockytdi8901 14 күн бұрын
In this particular case the north roof also has the advantage of being set back from the 2 either side so when the front is shaded by the neighbours in the morning and evening the rear can pick up some sun to fill that gap.
@OvalRenewables 10 күн бұрын
Each house is different. Some will have a better situation and some will have a worse one. However the amount of generation is really good!
@jabberwockytdi8901 14 күн бұрын
That's a fairly low angle pitch roof and not shaded to east or west so you are going to get a good amount of solar all day through a lot of the year an even at midday in the middle of the year the angle of incidence is pretty good. A steeper pitch roof would likely work at it's best in middle 4-5 months of the year summer when the sun is rising and setting well to the north of the east west line, and would be more morning evening biased in it's generation.
@OvalRenewables 10 күн бұрын
It’s actually a 30 degree pitch which is fairly standard but I think you are right that the steeper the pitch the lower the generation.
@raymondkimbung5540 15 күн бұрын
Very informative piece. Thank you. Can you comment on the extra percentage investment for adding the north-facing panels compared to installing only the south-facing array?
@OvalRenewables 10 күн бұрын
I would have to work it out. I will look at a follow up video
@MrKlawUK 15 күн бұрын
UK has small houses. if you paraphrase the old US muscle car adage - there is no replacment for displacement - an equivalent for solar would be something like ‘there is nothing fairer than surface area’. If you have a big house with a massive unshaded south facing roof thats great. but for an average 3 bed house? Fill it up
@MrKlawUK 15 күн бұрын
had a 2.5kwp south array an old FIT array which left no space on my roof. Last year I got 4kwp put on my north roof when I was getting a battery fitted - at the time that was needed to get 0%. I’m very happy with the results. Get about equal which works as the south array is smaller but south facing. Main thing isn’t peak generaiton its baseload coverage where surface area just helps a ton to keep from pulling from the grid.
@WebDeveloper-xs4uf 16 күн бұрын
Good luck with solar in UK, the airlines have modified fuels to make sure grey skies appear after they fly over, normally anout an jour later as the aerosols sulphate float down to cause all dau every day grey oit and rain.
@stunicholson3921 15 күн бұрын
lol
@ursodermatt8809 16 күн бұрын
and! in overcast the north and south facing arrays make exactly the same amount of electricity production. and magnetic north pole does not mean much. also the earth has a wobble and varies about an hour, at least where i live. (from equinox to equinox)
@hanswallner2188 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for posting results, we got very similar results with a northern array. At today's low prices for solar it absolutely makes sense to use north facing roofs!
@OvalRenewables 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@bayerbear6770 16 күн бұрын
Is thin film solar panels for cloudy environments still a thing?
@morphixnet 16 күн бұрын
What's the angle of the roof and does that have an impact? Note: I cannot believe nobody else in that neighbourhood has solar with such perfect roof space!
@grahamcook9289 16 күн бұрын
But when do the North facing panels produce? Are they only productive in the summer and contribute little to nothing in the winter? As the property has two heat pumps that provide CH in winter, power generation in winter is important, more important than summer.
@brianoneill350 16 күн бұрын
Why are the DC and AC cables in the same conduit
@OvalRenewables 16 күн бұрын
Same trunking but they never cross as the D.C. comes from the left and AC comes from the right. Meaning they are separate.
@stephencrowther524 17 күн бұрын
Lots of words which could have been summed up in 2 minutes !😂
@Arjen46 17 күн бұрын
I would like to see the same graph for each month, as the angle of the sun is much lower in winters
@sweetvuvuzela4634 16 күн бұрын
Between October to April you won’t get much from north facing due to the suns axis.
@Arjen46 16 күн бұрын
@@sweetvuvuzela4634 yes, and simultaneously, that's when you'd require the most energy for heat pumps, etc. That's indeed why I would be interested in a more detailed statistics analysis.
@sweetvuvuzela4634 16 күн бұрын
@ I have south and north facing panels. Obviously the south facing panels will be much better but north facing ones also perform well on par with the south facing ones. This only happens for a shorter period then the south facing ones due to the way the sun shines. But I have had abundance of power from March to October. And south facing panels do work in winter but due to shorter days it’s not even worth acknowledging. I have 12 north and 12 south facing 400 w each. I had the south facing ones fitted first being sceptical. Following spring I got north side done. Got batteries too in summer batteries last overnight and start charging in the morning around 8am and 9 am for the north facing. Hope this answers your question. My bills are so low now they are more standing charge then actual purchasing of power ( not in winter) Based in greater London
@Arjen46 16 күн бұрын
I’m indeed convinced that any panel in any wind direction contributes to power output, but without properly supporting the video with more specific statistics, it’s more like; ‘We sell panels and would like to sell you more panels, because more panels generate more power’. Annual figures don’t mean anything in December.
@sweetvuvuzela4634 16 күн бұрын
@ correct November October till more or less spring your lucky if the panels generate enough to do your background use. Fridges lights etc forget heaters heat pumps etc.
@sorbetingle 17 күн бұрын
😊😊 A shallow pitched south facing roof would generate good numbers, as although technically the roof facies south the panel's on shallow pitch face a good chunk of the sky especially in summer months when the sun is at its highest. A south facing high pitched roof id hate to think how little that would generate.
@John-ik1os 17 күн бұрын
Interesting, so with the addition of the north facing panels how has this reduced the payback period in years for the entire installation (including the Tesla battery)? Also what would you consider to be the lifetime usefulness of the panels fitted (before replacement panels are required) in years?
@Fester_ 17 күн бұрын
Very cool.
@TheFlyingJanner 17 күн бұрын
Not 2 sides with 5x440w Jinkos or something for way more output? Looks like they'd fit....
@JohnJones-ri7pi 17 күн бұрын
I was patiently waiting for this update and suspected the North panels would perform well as this shows, thanks for the video 😊 e.on installed 16 395w panels on my south west roof in 2022… they talked me out of a further 8 panels I wanted installing at the same time on my north east facing roof 2 years later I got 8 430w panels on my north east facing roof installed by someone else and I’m not making this up… they have produced more kWh per panel than the south west panels!!!
@markrainford1219 17 күн бұрын
Do you need structural calculations for that many panels on a roof?
@PjotrII 17 күн бұрын
Interesting, but needed to be point out, this i very much based upon where one lives. 35% production is quite good from panels "not in optimal position"
@bcpbrennan 17 күн бұрын
Would love to know the cost of the 12 on the front in isolation & then the cost if it was the 24. Or even a percentage cost?
@JohnJones-ri7pi 17 күн бұрын
It’s very cost effective the more panels you add, just fill the roof with as many panels as you can is my advice
@bcpbrennan 17 күн бұрын
@ yeah, just Wondering what percentage! Filled my flat roof with 17 of them. Probably could have put another 4 or 5 on the pitched roof. 🤷♂️🙈🤷♂️
@JohnJones-ri7pi 17 күн бұрын
@@bcpbrennan I did the same mistake I put 16 on my west roof should’ve done the east roof at the same time probs cost me an extra £2k doing it in two hits
@sweetvuvuzela4634 16 күн бұрын
Panels are so cheap now it’s the install cost if your doing one side you might as well do both if you got space and budget
@chrisphillips1948 17 күн бұрын
I found you from your last video about north facing panels. I was about to ask if you covered the UK and you mentioned it in video which is great news 👍 I'm in Suffolk and will definitely be in touch when we're ready to have solar and powerwalls installed.
@judebrown4103 17 күн бұрын
I rarely comment but I enjoy your videos very much. Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year to you and yours.
@kc2hwv 17 күн бұрын
Here im brazil works fine .. 😂😂😂 every case needs to be studied before saying.
@moorgrovee 17 күн бұрын
Would be nice to se some charts of the south vs north for each month. Is the north producing most of its energy in the summer months when the sun is high on the horizon or is it the background light when cloudy and the rest of the year that makes the south and north produce the “equal” amount?
@junkerzn7312 18 күн бұрын
This is great data. I've had a third MPPT string input just sitting in my junction box up on the roof and the most convenient place to add more panels to use that string input is on the north-facing side. The real question, though, is how well do north-facing panels work in winter when the sun angle is so low that you barely get any direct sun. All ambient. Now there is a lot of ambient light in winter due to cloud-cover and such, but I'd like to know what the summer-vs-winter ratios are north-vs-south to really get a good idea about what it can do for me in winter. -Matt
@OvalRenewables 18 күн бұрын
A few have mentioned this. I’ll see if I can do a part 2