Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy Because I'm easy come, easy go Little high, little low Any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to me, to me Mama, just killed a man Put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger, now he's dead Mama, life had just begun But now I've gone and thrown it all away Mama, ooh, didn't mean to make you cry If I'm not back again this time tomorrow Carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters Too late, my time has come Sends shivers down my spine, body's aching all the time Goodbye, everybody, I've got to go Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth Mama, ooh (any way the wind blows) I don't wanna die I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all I see a little silhouetto of a man Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango? Thunderbolt and lightning, very, very frightening me (Galileo) Galileo, (Galileo) Galileo, Galileo Figaro, magnifico But I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me He's just a poor boy from a poor family Spare him his life from this monstrosity Easy come, easy go, will you let me go? بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ No, we will not let you go (let him go) بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ We will not let you go (let him go) بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ We will not let you go (let me go) Will not let you go (let me go) Will not let you go (never, never, never, never let me go) No, no, no, no, no, no, no Oh, mamma mia, mamma mia
@taitcitarella7062Күн бұрын
You talked about how you like to complete areas, how much of the trapps as a whole would you say you’ve done, and do you think you’d be able to complete a guidebook? I went there for the first time last weekend and walked the half an hour out to arrow and high e with my jaw on the floor the whole way , gawking at with 200+ feet of cliff on my left that never seemed to stop. It seemed like there was enough climbing for many lifetimes!
@okzsub949Күн бұрын
Great send Eric and a bold route for sure! It is my opinion that the style in which you climb a route is secondary to telling the truth as to how you accomplished it. Knee pad to aid the RP? Tell us. Using a coat hanger to fishhook a tiny nut on Diamond in the Rough? Tell us that ;) Pink pointed because you fell the first go and wanted to call it day but got back up the courage to lead with the advantage of time savings not placing gear? Cool with me. Was it fun and challenging? Great job! Arguing over the best style devolves into all these ridiculous and unjustifiable nuances because, after all, what we are doing is absurd anyway. How many people climb the easier second pitch to the top of the cliff to claim the full ascent of the route (as traditionally a route at the Gunks is not a route if it doesn't top out.) Not that you really need to climb the cliff to get to the top, as evidenced by all the casual Sunday hikers up on the Millbrook Ridge Trail enjoying the same view we struggle to, for far less risk! One thing I'd be interested in hearing is your opinion on the protection ratings on these climbs AFTER having the tremendous benefit of hanging around to sus out all the very best, precise gear placements. For example, after Mabrey's FFA on Thumb's Up I commented how it was certainly NOT an X-rated climb considering the gear he was able to plug in. I'd argue it looked PG-13 at best and not even R with the nest of 3 pieces he had at the crux. Fracchia commented that they would keep the rating at X because that is what it would be "to anyone attempting a ground up onsight of the route". Ground up, onsight being (in my opinion) the purest form you can really hope for in the silly game we play out there in the woods, this kind of made sense to me. The official protection rating being X for that reason, yet could be brought down to something safer with careful study of every inch of rock. I wonder what routes out there would still qualify as X under headpoint tactics? Rings of Saturn at Millbrook, likely, and many others there perhaps.
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
Hey Mike, I think you hit it on the head. I hope I don't come off like I'm trying to justify my own style, rather than just explaining the style I like to climb in. It's all meaningless as long as you're honest. Just to avoid any nonsense with my own personal logging of routes, I simply go by guidebook grades and protection ratings. Protection ratings are meant specifically for onsight attempts so you don't get sandbagged into serious injury if you are attempting an onsight. With the elimination of the PG13 grade in the gunks, the "R" grade has become wildly varied, from just-about-G to as-close-to-X-as-possible. Again, just to avoid all the nonsense and nuance of it, I go by the assigned guidebook grade and realize some routes are just more dangerous than others. This goes with the physical difficulty as well, a very select few routes are soft, and most of them are just all over the place. I take the suggested grade and move on. I do find the X-rated routes generally remain X even with headpointing tactics. In terms of Thumbs Up, I'd probably agree, but since the gear is so specific(pre-rigged anchor, red ball nut, invisible brassie and tiny 000s) I think X is a very fair onsight grade for that, but a rare route that headpointing brings the X down considerably. PG13 is probably appropriate. Many of the other X routes I've climbed I would say remain X, even if I have safely fallen on some of them, and that may be by luck. Hit me up let's climb this fall.
@stephenhanselmann34432 күн бұрын
seeing a video of how the holds are and pro sits is really awesome, you dont get that content very often. Keep it up!
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
Thanks! All of our films include this, check them out!
@3000SethG2 күн бұрын
Congrats on that it looks truly frightening at the crux and the crux does seem to be independent so it is legit- when I was next to you in April while you were working this, it seemed like such a waste of time to me because literally for the first half it seems like you can just reach over to the holds on To Be or Not to Be. Seemed like such a squeeze job even for the Gunks… but watching this it does look like a cool thing I will never never do. Also is the Number Two you place the same one as ToBe? Couldn’t quite tell from the vid.
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
The real hero that day was you gearing up for To Be, the king line. This route is junk and fairly contrived through the bottom, but the mid crux and up is very sick and worth doing at least on TR if you're over there again. A lot of fun! I think it does actually rank as the most dangerous route I've ever climbed, so I definitely wouldn't recommend leading it. Yes, it is the same #2, it sits slightly higher than the #3 and gave me an extra foot of comfort. The best link-up on this wall would probably be low To Be, into mid Believe, into high To Be crux, for the most sustained and coolest mash up of cruxes.
@philipvondra50102 күн бұрын
vVry cool congrats ! it looks like a great line. I need to try it. Like the double ropes, I think you fell it would have a better pull angle on the gear.
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
Junk through the low stuff but the mid crux is at least worth a TR rip!
@chopsjazz12 күн бұрын
You don't have to answer to anyone for your ethics. Live your life, climb your climbs.
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
Yea man, it's all made up. Hoping to talk about my personal style in an interesting and engaging way.
@johnsullivan8732 күн бұрын
you cant just take the #3 out and plug it back in, because that would mean you would be carrying less weight on your harness, and therefore would be aid?
@maybesomaybenot2 күн бұрын
yea bro its for sure aid cant do that if u want the send! in all seriousness tho sick vid nice work getting this thing and appreciate the acknowledgement that ethics and styles have some level of just being contrived and personal and I dig your style!
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
Hey, it's so stupid, but yea, it matters to me to carry all the gear. I wouldn't call it aid, just a redpoint with a minor asterisk haha
@mariesidman79052 күн бұрын
If I had 2 belayers I'd just get short-roped twice.
@okzsub9492 күн бұрын
Usually people simply climb on half ropes (doubles) but I guess it's harder to find someone capable of that than recruit two separate people to handle the ropes lol
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
Lmfao I was lucky to not be pulled to my untimely death by any belayers that day. Both did amazing and I really thank them for belaying a lead that intense.
@taitcitarella70622 күн бұрын
Great work! That looks absolutely terrifying!
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
It was horrendous lol
@DanA-bt7dr2 күн бұрын
Hell yeah new HH!
@headpointhandbookКүн бұрын
Hell yea! More to come.
@DanA-bt7drКүн бұрын
@@headpointhandbook Looking forward to it. I'm pretty much all caught up. I actually also just finished the whole podcast episode on my drive. I love nerding out about gear, but I'm also from bouldering origins and I'm a big Moonboard fan. I strongly believe that bouldering/board climbing is essential to becoming a strong trad climber. I loved the stories on the episode, but was hoping to hear more about your training. KZbin doesn't really need anymore training content though!
@climbingforlife110 күн бұрын
Man I appreciate your knowledge of ethics and whatnot when considering the bolt!
@nealnoyce105029 күн бұрын
Helmet?
@headpointhandbook28 күн бұрын
right there on my head
@Antmandominguez29 күн бұрын
Do you mind explaining why your 5.8 gunks falls were so bad and any lessons you learned from them?
@headpointhandbook28 күн бұрын
Hey, 5.8 in the gunks can be sandbagged for the grade, with some ledgey falls and traversing or varied terrain, so I really did mean that even though it's a joke! Maybe I can do a separate video on lessons for budding trad leaders.
@climberevanАй бұрын
Thanks for putting this together!
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Thanks for taking the 40 minutes to watch it! I appreciate it.
@muzorewiАй бұрын
Can we all agree that not wearing a helmet is irrational, there really are no downsides.
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
You didn't heed the warning. I have no choice but to...disagree with you.
@stephenhanselmann3443Ай бұрын
@@headpointhandbookwhy do not like climbing with a helmet?
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
@@stephenhanselmann3443 I don't have any particular reason. It's simply personal preference. I think the risk of being injured in a fall without a helmet is incredibly unlikely and can be mitigated in other ways. If I was ice or alpine climbing I'd for sure wear one, but I don't hate myself so I'll likely never do those things lol
@PhooshАй бұрын
Last fall clip gave me chills when I saw how the bolt on the cam caught you. 😬
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
You shoulda saw my chills when I recovered it like that.
@ASNIV_Ай бұрын
Awesome video. Appreciate all the content you put out.
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Thank you, glad you've stuck with me. Hope it helps!
@marcuswebb9954Ай бұрын
Great camera work (and climb)!
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Good detached pillar there to film from! Glad you liked it.
@gabrielrivera9594Ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing. Lots of good stuff to think about
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Thank you! Hoping to help people develop a more rational and less fear based approach to their own climbing.
@CloveHitchCoryАй бұрын
love your videos bro. I learn so much from watching you. This channel is so underrated
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Thanks dude, be safe out there! No shortcuts.
@DanA-bt7drАй бұрын
And sorry for focus on Cilley Dicken as it seems like there's been a lot of chat about it (this is my first time seeing it), but the logic of anchoring Sabrina with a cam was to stop her from shooting upwards to prevent a groundie? Do you think there might have been a different result if she was free to move dynamically?
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
No problem, I appreciate you asking. Yea for sure, I think it was hard to anticipate how far I would fall, so anchoring seemed like the best decision. I think anchoring tighter would be the option in the future, because a ground fall there would be much worse(higher likelihood) with no anchor.
@arthurkock881Ай бұрын
Love the fall analysis, hilarious yet insightful. You don’t think that if there’s a low crux with dodgy gear like on Bird Brain, it would be prudent for the belayer to basically brace for impact with the climber, given the higher likelihood of that happening? Maybe a football uniform would have been useful 😅
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Hey dude, missing you as usual. I think yea, your partner diving to hopefully catch you in the event of a bad fall would be pre-discussed and part of a dangerous belay, maybe even injuring themselves in the process. We need black diamond branded shoulder pads.
@damian9070Ай бұрын
Lack of helmets on belayer is recipe for a disaster. Im not even that experienced but everytime I been outdoors there has been rockfall.
@ericmarx3373Ай бұрын
Interesting, I’ve climbed almost every where you can name over the last 15 years and the only time there was rock fall it was the size of a large microwave and it certainly would’ve killed me, helmet or not. I responded to another comment here about how I feel about Sabrina’s lack of helmet on the cilley dicken fall.
@arthurkock881Ай бұрын
You may be climbing on choss. When I started sport climbing, due to fear of falling my friends and I would often limit ourselves to mid-5.10. After we’d climb the finger few classics, we’d be left with zero or one star sub 5.10’s that are incredibly chossy and not repeated often. Rockfall (usually small) would happen all the time.
@aminebrahimi3948Ай бұрын
@@ericmarx3373 Do you climb indoors you mean?
@neaituppi7306Ай бұрын
I never wear a Bicycle helmet. One little wrinkle dinkle. I would suggest to not tell potential subscribers that your channel is not for someone that wants to complain about not wearing a helmet. Let them complain in the comments, it is engagement. You don't have to respond. Unless it is really insulting, then delete it.
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Hey dude, nah all good, I'm just about never insulted by anything, I appreciate your comment. First, NEVER? are you CRAZY/?? I'm cancelling you. Haha, yea, you're right and I didn't think of that, it would drive more engagement. The thing with that though is that I don't care. I know that this channel has a very niche audience, and I also don't/won't make any significant money doing this, and don't need to. I'm essentially free to be who I am, to be totally honest in my videos and to have the luxury of telling the helmet police to shove it. Being honest and being myself is worth more to me than youtube engagement. If I wanted to be a youtuber I would make indoor bouldering videos. Thanks again for your comment, I really do like it.
@neaituppi7306Ай бұрын
@@headpointhandbook That is actually good. I had friends that want to be "KZbinrs" and they get kind of self absorbed. But you are welcome to send me one of the free helmets they probably send you to endorse. That you never wear. I might wear it.
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
@@neaituppi7306 Hahaha If I ever pick up a brand name sponsorship and they send me a helmet, I mean this in all seriousness, I will ship it to you completely free before anybody else.
@kawong1607Ай бұрын
Super cool stuff as usual! Definitely helpful for me, a relatively new trad climber aspiring to tackle consequential terrains! Not trying to be those annoying judgmental helmet polices. In all the lead fall you analyzed helmet wouldn't do shit for the leaders (or even making the leader easier to fall, like James Pearson mentioned), but it seems useful for belayers. In the whipper you hit your wife, perhaps a helmet would have better protected her head from slamming into the wall. I'm just curious about your take on helmet for leaders and belayers. No judgement implied :)
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Thanks! I'm psyched you asked. It's hard to say, maybe if she WAS wearing a helmet she would have skated her head up and off the rock and drove her eye socket into that corner instead? Or maybe she would have skated down and been totally fine. It really is hard to know and I'm not convinced after hours of thought that she would have been better with a helmet in this particular fall. Of course, my general advice is to wear a helmet, though I don't.
@zReivaxАй бұрын
The not realizing you broke your ankle is wild. I'm currently walking around on a visibly bad ankle injury, and it's got me thinking 🤔
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Get an xray dude! It'll take 20 minutes at a city MD.
@TradamYaksАй бұрын
With the weather finally feeling more like fall I've been getting antsy to get back to work on bonehard. Definitely going to reevaluate that gear. And clip that old piton mid crux.
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
I was too damn weak for that piton at the time, I'd give you my new gear beta if you like. Let's go dude I'm psyched! Future Shock direct right there is my main project for the fall.
@TradamYaksАй бұрын
@@headpointhandbook I have no problem taking gear beta on headpoints!!
@DanA-bt7drАй бұрын
Wait, you fall?
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
I try as hard as I can not to lol
@chopsjazz1Ай бұрын
Actually, "take your friend's pants when they offer them to you" is a lesson that I have put to use quite often, but never when climbing.
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Give me your pants right now
@snailmonkАй бұрын
Kinda wild people were mad at you for that person swinging in on you on bird brain. It was lucky she missed you, but it seemed like not really anyone's fault. I'm sure it was a lesson for her as well!
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Hey, yea they were upset that I climbed in her rope line, which clearly isn't what happened. I haven't been upset about it since the moment it happened. They still ignore me at the cliff, but I'll just keep saying hi, and walking by. Thankfully, I have plenty of friends.
@snailmonkАй бұрын
@@headpointhandbook Wow weirdly petty of them... Good mindset though, keep on keeping on and all.
@nuklhedsАй бұрын
Dude did you do this in July ??
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
80 degrees and 40% humidity is condis!
@MrHassancehef2 ай бұрын
hello, my comment disapear so I rewrite it in a shorter style: you would probably not feel such a difference of bungeeness (well this word doesn't exist, but whatever) if you were using another capture device. Shunt is probably one of the worst device concerning feeding (and also concerning your safety), so you need a strong bungee action, with micro you would probably not notice this. I say that, but I don't own any commercial bungee.
@headpointhandbookАй бұрын
Hey, I considered mentioning this in the video, but I had the same issues(though not as bad) with my old system of double micros. It depends how much you're traversing in and out of the ropeline and how much you've weighted the rope. I know people don't like the shunt, but I switched from double micros because I prefer it.
@MrHassancehefАй бұрын
@@headpointhandbook thank you for the input!
@CollinGill72 ай бұрын
whipper was a jump scare!
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
I feel like the second whip more than the first!
@B21-bomber2 ай бұрын
That was not the second ascent.
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Any more historical context, or just this oddly unhelpful comment from a random account with a blurry photo? I don't care about any of the particular glory of a second ascent, so I'll change it if need be, but your comment doesn't help at all lol.
@snailmonk2 ай бұрын
recently stumbled upon your channel, but i love how candid and real your videos are. no weird youtubing vibes, just raw climbing in the gunks. keep crushing at your own pace!
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's exactly the point, don't need any youtube weirdness. Faux excitement and all that.
@sgtsackattack2 ай бұрын
This channel is a gee dang gem! Love the effort put into filming the grip positions on the holds.
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I think it makes watching the climbing less boring. As somebody who loves climbing, sometimes watching it is like watching paint dry haha
@burnsbabe872 ай бұрын
Great send! I love the inset shots of the placements and holds. Please never say "Day Flash" again.
@JamieMelhuish2 ай бұрын
I love the Gunks and you make great videos of the Gunks.
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I also love the gunks haha
@LisaMichele2 ай бұрын
Awesome job on the climb but no helmet ?! Love your channel, keep it up!
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Hey! If you follow my channel you know that I never wear a helmet, no amount of helmet policing will likely ever change that. I hope you enjoy the videos anyway!
@LisaMichele2 ай бұрын
@@headpointhandbook alright well as someone who had a TBI and had seizures for 2 years as a result, I hope you never get a TBI. it's so preventable but you do you boo
@ericmarx33732 ай бұрын
@@LisaMicheleI’m sorry to hear that happened to you, but there’s absolutely nothing personal about me not wearing a helmet, and you choosing to. Ultimately, if you’d never gone climbing in the first place, nothing would have happened to you. It’s all a risk assessment, and this is the risk assessment that works for me.
@taitcitarella70622 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Best channel on KZbin!
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Even better than MAGNUS?
@taitcitarella70622 ай бұрын
@@headpointhandbook far and away hahaha
@TradamYaks2 ай бұрын
Sick send! Was a pleasure
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Big compliment from the guy who's been putting away 12 after 12 lately! Snuck your Eraserhead send in at the end. Bone hard next?
@TradamYaks2 ай бұрын
Bonehard, suppers.. too many on the list
@chopsjazz12 ай бұрын
Great send. I love the family dynamic in your videos, the banter with your wife is endearing. Keep sending the videos.
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Rock climbing is cool but having a family is 1000x cooler.
@michaellarson_2 ай бұрын
Great video and send man, can’t wait for you to get out to the Lake with us sometime!
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Soon. Too many sick lines out there you guys have been hyping up!
@lordcaffeine2 ай бұрын
Strong work! I can't believe you guys climb in the sun this time of year. I avoid it even in the Winter! Beasts!!
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Thank you, it's not often but sometimes the heat bakes off all the humidity, and once you get shade the rock feels sticky!
@ljam4452 ай бұрын
Recently found your channel and have been going through the backlog of videos. Just wanted to say that holy hell dude your videos are top notch. The breakdown of the climb, visuals of the placements and story telling is on point. Thanks for putting so much effort into these videos, they're fantastic. Also great job on the send! You have unbelievably strong head game and patience to wait until you know it's right to climb something on lead.
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm really happy to hear you appreciate it. I often feel like the filming is an afterthought to the climbing and my wife kinda cobbles it all together, so it really is nice to get such high praises from you. There's certain routes you don't have any option other than patience, and this is definitely one of those routes haha.
@StratteraCapsules2 ай бұрын
wake babe up new Headpointing in the Gunks video just droped
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Babe, wake up NOW
@jcrotty182 ай бұрын
Great reviews! I'll be looking into getting one for sure. Long time connoisseur of home grown TR solo bungee rigs and a number of other trad orientated DIY tricks of the trade.
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I have couple other niche reviews and niche uses of conventional products planned.
@averageandrew822 ай бұрын
Great review and nice to see a fellow TRS climber. I was recently considering which one to buy. Using a soft stretch is personally inconvenient and a bit uncomfortable for me as well. Thanks for the info and updates!
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Thanks again man. Used to TRS probably less than ten times a year until we had the baby. Now it's mostly how I climb!
@JonRinehartSTL2 ай бұрын
Holy shit you trs with only a shunt 😳 you wild
@headpointhandbook2 ай бұрын
Not too bad for me! A nice fat static, beefy quicklink, bungee, and general awareness keeps me safe.