Great analysis video 🥹🤧👍

Wouldn't be surprised if BMTH abandon whatever they're doing to continue reviving their hardcore era now that its super popular

I've listened to BMTH since day 1, basically. Something I love about them is that there sound is ever changing and evolving. No album or song sounds identical. I also think it has definitely helped with their longevity and ability to connect with all types of people over a 20 year career. I was sad to see Jordan go, but that's part of growing and changing. I LOVE this new album, it's hands down one of my faves.

amo its like ATS from Linkin Park

glad to see oli realized it did become the oli and jordan show. im usually really open to artist getting experimental, i even dont mind the new linkin park vocalist. but like i absolutely HATED bmth after sempiternal. like they literally dropped one of the best metal albums of this millenium, tastefully incorporated with electronic elements and anything after that was absolutely unlistenable for me. post-human stuff was meh, i get what they were going for and it did not work for me. im horrified but not surprised to hear that the band was not involved in the writing process at all. lee is a good guitarist that can write great riffs and even solos, and im excited to hear his contributions again. im following the future career of bmth with great interest even though i can’t stand to listen anything past sempiternal in the past 10 years

Aaaaaand their first record without Jordan was terrible

I liked Jordan’s contributions to sempiternal and a few songs on that’s the spirit but from that’s the spirit onwards him and Oli had way too much control of the bands sound, like Lee is a great guitar player and if I remember correctly him and Oli used to do most the song writing together and then after Jordan joins he pretty much gets demoted to a background character, like come on he’s the LEAD guitar player use him 😂 Lowkey wouldn’t be surprised if everyone starts sounding like bmth now since all these bands are using Jordan, same thing happened after sempiternal came out everyone started copying that style

I'm not a fan of reading things into songs or family unfollowing bandmembers on social media when we have multiple interviews with both Jordan and Oli talking about the issue. I take what they say by face value and believe that Jordan's departure was due to creative and professional disparities and with best intentions for all people involved.

You guys do know that Fish has writing credits for the music in 7 of the 13 songs, right? So to say they did the album without him is a bit ridiculous. (Although, admittedly, I thought he’d have even more writing credentials for the album.)

Amo ruled.

First time seeing your channel. Liked the video. Although I find your microphone very distracting. Could I maybe suggest you get a shotgun microphone or something that’s not so in your face. Just a thought

Rip is my favorite bmth song

You do a really good job setting out the timeline

Wait a min… aren’t you the Dog guy who personifies all dog breeds???

Jordan coming in during Sempiternal definintely made BMTH what it is today, so I was sad when he left. but listening to Oli describe the process, I think they made the right decision.

honestly this clears up everything jordan's approach and ethics are clear as day and I'm already tired of hearing all these mick gordon sounding songs everywhere, I'm not a fan of nex gen and I've grew tired of post human but amo and TTS still feel like something fresh and original

It's funny how personal it can be to just unfollow someone on ig😂

Love the video, great work mate ❤

A album wasnt meeded for it

Lowkey miss when u did vids on kanye rollouts but this mf washed so i cant blame you either

I geniunly love when bands try to expand their horizon (no pun inteded), rather than sounding all the same for their entire career as so many metal bands seem to fall in that trap. Which is completily fine tbh, but the backlash of so many people in the metal community for going outside the confrot zone old always kinda bothered me.

I think he will work well with Spirtbox's work ethic since the band is technically a duo too ran by Mike and Courtney

Great explanation. I didn't even know this happened...

Olis jordan fishd out,and after he has turned architects into his formulaic puppet, me too ol, me too.

I used to think jordan ruined bmth but even after he left bmth is still total shit. sempiternal is the last good album they put out.

Best ever explanation of the album, cool video.

Bring Me The Fish

was hanging with shawty so i missed this when it dropped, but yo bro awesome to see u covering stuff outside of hip hop, keep cookin

not gonna lie, mother tongue is probably the catchiest thing they have ever made, and its not even remotely close to the rest of their material. even on amo, it stood out with just how poppy it was.

Oli said in a recent interview that they invited the band back to write with them again for the first post human. Just a correction. 👍

I can't help but think it's about songwriting credits (aka money splits). THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL. A lot of songs written and released while Jordan was in the band has credited mainly Oli and Jordan, and not the other three. I feel Jordan may have wanted it that way because technically the other three didn't write the songs so why should they get a big cut of the split. Maybe after so many albums of this, they've brought it up to Oli as a "either he goes or we go" type of situation. IDK but that's just my HYPOTHETICAL thinking.

AMO has been unnecessarily cooked by fans. It's a such a cool bookmark in their discography.

Great video, very good research and a very nice and positive conclusion!

Jordan's contributions to BMTHs AMO made me fall in love with the band again after a long listening absence.

It's fairly standard for band members and their families to unfollow everyone when it comes to a split. The amount of notifications and tags, and questions regarding the situation becomes unbearable, so it's just easier to unfollow.

Ijust can't see RIP as a Jordan diss track. The theme fits right into the TTS era type of friend betrayal songs. The song just happened to be released at the time Jordan left. "Still alive but you're dead to me" is the opposite of what Oli said about Jordan in interviews.

amazing vid man <3

He also is working with a dutch singer, one song is already released and they made a whole album. Its so good. She is called "S10" and they worked a lot together

I work at one of the venues from the UK tour they did in January this year ...Jordan was part of the band / still scheduled to be apart of the UK tour in January as of the 15th of December (5 days before the leaving announcement) according to the set / rigging plans sent across to us. His keyboards were still part of the set lay out sheets.

Cut to the chase bon jovi.

need more vids on metal bands bro, love that you're branching out

I have never been a real bmth fan. I really liked there is a hell and sempiternal, but that's it, so I've mostly viewed this out of casual interest. Looking at it, it seems that sykes and fish should've done a side project. If they basically took away creative contribution from the other members, then it's not really the same band anymore. Perhaps it could've prevented some resentment from forming and basically leading to fish's departure so the other members could start contributing again.

How come nobody connected St chroma & “thought i was dead” with sam is dead from of vol 2 .

u should have included the clip of Jordan talking about how Oli always writes the songs while he wants to write songs about his long balls <3

i was depressed for weeks when this happened, jordan fish is my idol. really glad he's doing his own work now, but hope he makes a solo album at some point and doesn't just give all his best tunes to others like Poppy and HOP. (poppy album is incredible tho for real)

Jordan sounds a lot like a studio producer with his maximizing productivity approach, which is great for artists hiring him to get a job done but can be exhausting as a long term band member (especially if the band wants to experiment and push boundaries).

The band matured with him and then dematured once he was gone lol what an inmature bunch of bs they have been trowing. Lee is an amazing guitarrist but a great guitar work doesnt remove how awful person Oliver Sykes is now that he is the only front face again. But don't get me wrong, I'm happy about it, I love his work with Architects and wonder whic other bands he will help produce amazing stuff

19:05 hearing this again now makes so much sense with Poppy album with some lyrics repeated and not really deep, even though I love the record, and Architects over-use of "FUCK" in Whiplash (even though I love the energy of this song)

Sempiternal was their magnum opus? I would say There is a Hell was and then Sempiternal is the mainstream breakout record.

His team with Zakk is great. Poppy album is awesome, Architects never sounded better since Holy Hell and House Of Protection revived the original energy of Fever 333