I would say, no. The tinting strength is going to be different. There are several variables that make titanium white and lead white useful to the painter. Student grade paint usually has less pigment to oil ratio - and this too could be viewed as an advantage. Though, titanium and lead white are not the same pigments. Lead white is PW1 and Titanium is PW6. Titanium has a cooler color shift from neutral and Lead White has a warmer color shift from neutral. This video has proven to be somewhat like discussing pineapple on pizza but just know this. One is not really better than the other. Your personal taste and what you want out of your white is all that matters.

Thank-you so much for the kind words.

Thank-you, I’m working on some video ideas and hope to make new stuff soon. Is there anything you’d like me to make a video about?

LOL, It was fun making this video.

What are you comparing lead white to? It dries faster than any white other than with an alkyd added. It may be the binder, if safflower or walnut was used.

No, did you find my doppelgänger? 😂

Why not paint the brightest parts as finish on a thin varnish layer in acrylics?

Thanks, Chris…thanks for dropping by. I’m trying hard to get back at it, the plan is to get back to recording and posting new videos soon. You’ve been an inspiration to me lately and I appreciate you sharing here on YT.

@@MichaelWarthStudios Back at you Michael! The lighting in your videos is so good I'm taking steps to improve. Hope to see you posting again soon!

Nothing wrong with that

Don’t sand dry paint.

It has to be said,, that's why it is in the video. Inhalation and ingestion are what makes lead white toxic to humans...

Does anyone know whether it can be carried on vapours given off by the spirits used to clean the brushes? I guess it just sinks to the bottom, but wonder if anyone can confirm?

I would still go with the regular paint over the student grade since I don’t see the advantage being too much of a savings. A quick look, W&N Winton titanium white is about $5 and the W&N Artist’s Oils titanium white is about $8 for 37ml tubes.

@@MichaelWarthStudios $30 artists grade 200ml W&N $11 150ml Gamblin 1980. I did a comparison test and I’m going with the 1980 for my white when the pockets are empty . 🙏

Exposure to heavy metals in paint and solvents can get into your system without eating it. Using good practices like a well ventilated space, and limited exposure to toxic materials through contact is always best.

I have been using flake white oil all my life! Haven't died yet ! 83 years old. Some of the other colors are even more dangerous! To much hype and bullshit!

@@MichaelWarthStudios no, it doesnt magically get in your system. there are plenty of other pigments you also want to be careful about, but lead is not worse than them, in normal informed use. the problem with lead is inhaling the powder or ingesting it somehow. Let's not overplay the dangers.

@@dont-want-no-wrench all I said in the video is that it is toxic. And can be ingested and inhaled. If lead white wasn’t dangerous, it wouldn’t be getting pulled from shelves. I’m simply bringing awareness to handle toxic paint carefully. I still use it, I still plan to use it, but a lot of people who are just getting started may not be aware of the dangers associated with lead white. This video is about lead white, not the others. I appreciate the comment, but i never stated it will “magically get in your system”. Prolonged use of any toxic material on the surface of your skin does, in fact, get “ingested” over time and creates chronic exposure into the bloodstream. Let’s not underplay the dangers either, the point of the video is that we should be safe when using these materials.

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Thanks, man

Thanks, Adil.

Hahaha, it does look good on the socials to do that though. Maybe he does it for the algorithms and all of that.

LOL, I just smoked one with a rusty nail. Thanks for dropping by my friend.

Nice, I didn’t know you went to art school. How cool is that!

@@MichaelWarthStudios it was pretty neat

Thanks Scott. I appreciate you dropping by and always so supportive. You rock!

I must admit, that is my favorite green. I use it with watercolor and gouache and it’s made it’s way onto my oil palette a few times. Thanks for the comment

Totally agree, I’m hoping this video just makes everyone think more about the paint and safe handling.

@@MichaelWarthStudios I know some folks who use lead white and wash their brushes in the sink, and they have well water! Can you believe it?

👀 yikes

Are you eating your paint? If not, then the toxicity is a non issue.

@@jegr3398 that isn’t true at all.

You are plenty good enough. I compare my own work too much and it discourages me to the point I try to “perfect” my work and forget to enjoy the process. You got this, Scott.

Thanks, Adil

👊🏻we got this!

Thanks Andy, I appreciate you.

@@MichaelWarthStudios I appreciate you too 👍

Correct, and for painters who mix dry pigments to create their own, inhaling the dry pigment is known to cause cancer and other health problems.

Interesting, thanks!

it does, it can make cool colors warmer, and titanium can make warmer colors cooler, but that's never been an issue for any artist before... because its barely noticeable when mixing, but yeah a titanium zink paint works great, i get the mgraham as for the walnut oil it doesnt go yellow.

@@bozmundarts2614 The videos I saw where titanium is mixed with a color it most certaintainly changes the hue, almost overpowers the color it's mixed with, the lead white doesn't do this, the color becomes lighter but it's still that color. And that is a big difference. I don't know if zinc cracks paint or is it the gesso grounds. There are both sides to the argument. It seems the most poisonous paint, lead white, is also the best. But then again, would one feel comfortable painting with poison, knowing that can kill you over time.

@@etienne7774 well, i guess, i just re mix with the color to achieve the right hue? this has never happened to me and it might depend on the color its being mixed with, only happens to me with brigh reds that when desaturated (as you'll know white is just a very light gray) become pink which is natural, if i want it kept "brighter light red" i just add some yellow and it turns into a "bright light red", otherwise that's never happened to me, but then again it might be how m graham's titanium zinc white is made... but its all about mixing to match a color, wether to literally match off a reference or match what you have in mind for the area of the painting, i have never struggled and havent not succeded in both regards using titanium white,,, when it comes to as a mixer, and if dont believe me check Steve Huston's artwork or demos for example, titanium white is just perfect enough.

@@bozmundarts2614 zink white cracks, right?

Desert Sky Blues by Don Syke.

@@MichaelWarthStudios thanks!

Good to know, thanks for the feedback.

Though possible in some brands, anytime the color index is PW1 (such as Williamsburg Flake White) there is no Titanium White added. The Color index for Titanium White is PW6, so it may be possible to find a tube with an index of PW1+PW6. The term "Flake White" is based on the lead carbonate flakes during the manufacturing process of lead white (PW1) paint.