I think having an ego is like pride you shouldn't express either one in the long run they are both worthless I think you should always be kind hearted and humble and try your best to be the best
@tymorgan34313 күн бұрын
What height of tripod would be good for someone who is 5' 10"
@davemckenzie78513 күн бұрын
Nice job. Can you tell me what color yellow you used? Looks really similar to the Sitka gear yellow.
@rothgyr436010 күн бұрын
Mad respect. I take my glove off for a 2 minute stage at a PRS match, and a single touch of the trigger might as well be like plunging my finger into liquid nitrogen. Meanwhile, you film the whole dang video handling a solid metal system without gloves.
@MODERNDAYSNIPER10 күн бұрын
😂🫶
@toddb93011 күн бұрын
Well, heck. I just sold my AI AT rifle.
@MODERNDAYSNIPER10 күн бұрын
What’d you do that for?!
@michaelhahn366411 күн бұрын
How do you like that Abel brake?
@MODERNDAYSNIPER10 күн бұрын
It’s amazing. I’ve got some TBAC Magnus RR’s on the way to compare.
@lmbear17 күн бұрын
I subscribed. After only a few minutes watching you, it's obvious you know your stuff.
@MODERNDAYSNIPER17 күн бұрын
🙏🤘
@lmbear17 күн бұрын
Excellent video. I shoot in the wind a lot. A lot of this becomes natural instinct, and it boils down to knowing your rifle and load to make solid hits. When you start doing hold overs by instinct and naturally, you'll know you are getting somewhere. Use and understand all your surroundings too. You don't need wind flags either.
@MODERNDAYSNIPER16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@fha950717 күн бұрын
I shoot daily and I mean daily. I shoot competitive F class, Airgun, and Benchrest. I bought a Kimber Andirondack in .308 about 10 years ago. It was truly humbling the first year of ownership of a 4lb 130z .308. Despite all my shooting and training, I had to re-learn some things about myself. In order to shoot such a lightweight rig you have to practice with it, you have to learn it and see how hold, trigger squeeze, head position affect it. You have to train with it like no other firearm I have ever shot. 3 things that have helped tremendously. 1 lightweight crisp trigger, 2 recoil mitigation with either muzzle break or suppressor, and 3 practice. Mountain rifles are no joke. It takes dedication to make them a reliable part of your arsenal.
@MODERNDAYSNIPER16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@Ubergamer25621 күн бұрын
The more I watch videos like this, the more I realize what a gamechanger the invert legs on my 2vets tripod is…. man oh man I am glad I bought once cry onced with them instead of RRS.
@MODERNDAYSNIPER21 күн бұрын
That’s an interesting perspective, and I see your point-the inverted legs are handy, but not for every situation - going down real low requires a large footprint. You may want to consider some research as well, because RRS was the first manufacturer to offer inverted legs, and that came about from shooter feedback. TwoVets are great tripods too, and I’m by no means disparaging them, but what makes their design superior to RRS? Handling? Knobs? Deployment ease? Apex design?
@jimfrancis24 күн бұрын
New to long range shooting,.. what do you mean by 5 mph gun?
@MODERNDAYSNIPER21 күн бұрын
Come over to Modern Day Rifleman and we’ll answer that question for you! Too complicated to type in a response here.
@BrendanONeill-e8u26 күн бұрын
Curious what spurred this. Anybody have some insight?
@MODERNDAYSNIPER26 күн бұрын
Excerpt from a podcast conversation - it’s been an ongoing discussion for many years.
@ruckuswethepeep438427 күн бұрын
Really great content 👏
@MODERNDAYSNIPER26 күн бұрын
Appreciate you
@robint28827 күн бұрын
AWESOME!
@MODERNDAYSNIPER26 күн бұрын
🤙✌️
@travishale748728 күн бұрын
random question but what bags are you using? I recently had mine grow legs and walk off, just trying to find a replacement...
@MODERNDAYSNIPER21 күн бұрын
I’m a fan of Armageddon Gear’s (Reasor Precision, originally) Gamechanger bags. Only in waxed canvas, and I use sand for competitive use, and SpexLite for everything else.
@anotherday05629 күн бұрын
Good stuff
@WestCoast_LongRangeАй бұрын
The unfortunate reality with SniperCraft, the ASA, and now TacFlow is their apparent belief that they monopolize the LE sniper curriculum. I've witnessed unprofessional behavior, such as Derrik throwing a student’s rifle and calling it garbage. For over a decade, the ASA has stagnated LE sniper tactics, and now TacFlow is offering courses that lack meaningful training value, seemingly focused on profit rather than enhancing officer readiness. Any dissent or questioning of their tactics or motives is met with censorship, blocking, and ostracization.
@MODERNDAYSNIPER29 күн бұрын
They can both stand by, cuz we’re here, and we’re not going anywhere.
@sheepnosetraining3601Ай бұрын
Marine vet, current LE, and spent some time as part of the instructor cadre for the Precision Rifle Workshop out of Denver. Honor grads were almost always former military guys in the LE classes. The mentality they bring to classes is usually a cut above the rest of the students. I loved what you said about that 10% becoming 100% of your purpose in the moment. It's so damn true. Yeah police work is 99% percent of the time doing something other than shooting, but that 1% is what will matter most when the time comes. Learn from everybody and to hell with what the media will think of your "militarized training." Bartlett didn't even like calling them snipers on the Law Enforcement side.
@johnnymccann5607Ай бұрын
I'm a reloader of many, many calibers and firearms with over 45years experience and knowledge. on extremely rare occasions I've shot to700 yd + missed more ground hogs that i hit .lol ,but i wasn't a sniper or trained for it.every thing i know 98 percent i taught myself. it saddens me the lack of civilian marksmanship training around our country. we are terribly laking in basic marksmanship skills. most generations below me just pray and spray .they don't want, need, ask for help.because because they think they know it all. well ill quit rambling on not many want to listen to a old fart , but i do know what im talking about .been there ,done what i.say. i found this show and greatly enjoyed it and subscribed. im not to old to learn new things. papa wishing you well 😊
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more!
@user-followyeshua15 сағат бұрын
I don't mind listening to you
@Shawn-bl5okАй бұрын
Im a retires LEO sniper, 20 yrs on the 308. There is a place for Military Snipers to teach LEOs. Anyone who says differ, is a closed minded ignorant high command asshole. Worked with a few. 1st book that made me wanna get on a bolt gun... Dear mom a snipers Vietnam, JT Ward. Keep your powder dry.
@noidea3177Ай бұрын
A better class would be: "LEO Tactics and how to survive them."
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
That class starts with your parents and community teaching you how not to fuck around - so you don’t find out.
@snprdogАй бұрын
One of your best presentations...Motor On.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
We gon' keep motorin'....
@TheMerlinmk19Ай бұрын
Having recieved training via FBI HRT a state LE agency and a private firm (all US military snipers) I can tell you that the instructors who imparted the most impactful and revealing knowledge were ALL military snipers - and some had gone on to police work. I am a Marine vet amd so maybe i have an internal bias, BUT the non-vet (college and police school only) instructors did not pack the gear, have the correct mentality and they lacked humility (thought their sh>t didn't stink). Having been on bith sides i can say this with certainty - NEVER EVER THINK FOR ONE SECOND THAT YOU HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO LEARN
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Appreciate the comment sir, I’m glad you had the opportunity to experience both sides of the coin.
@DanielPinkham-z6iАй бұрын
That Nazi lightning bolt rune on his background flag seems quite deliberate ? 11:42 11:43
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
So deliberate that you’re the only one to mention it in the 4 years this video has been up. 🤷♂️
@HDBujutsu1775Ай бұрын
We need to start teaching civilians the same classes
@Longshot762x51Ай бұрын
Hoooo boy, brace yourselves for the cool kids club getting offended that you dare try to obtain a skillset.
@HDBujutsu1775Ай бұрын
@ Meaning what?
@Just_Some_Dude1776Ай бұрын
@@HDBujutsu1775 If you want to do all that cool guy stuff just join.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
You can certainly try to obtain the skill sets-it’s easy, find a local recruiting office and make the commitment.
@Longshot762x51Ай бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPERgood to know what side of the fence you guys are on, really disappointed. So OP, skillsets and the monopoly on violence is apparently solely for the State and its agents, not the peasantry. 👍
@kicker6274Ай бұрын
Yeah...mil guys training police. Remember, their paycheck is more important than your freedom....
@SNAKEEATER1776Ай бұрын
You seem grouchy
@kicker6274Ай бұрын
@SNAKEEATER1776 Well, when you have a friend who you served and worked with, a Ranger who served multiple deployments who is now a felon for merely driving though NJ with an AR unloaded in his trunk...
@Just_Some_Dude1776Ай бұрын
@@kicker6274 Probably should of read the NJ Gun laws.
@kicker6274Ай бұрын
@Just_Some_Dude1776 Probably the cops should have read the Constitution. Since they don't bother to follow it I see zero reason to train cops. Maybe train them to fail...
@kicker6274Ай бұрын
@@Just_Some_Dude1776I see my response was deleted. Maybe the cops should read the Constitution and follow the supreme law of the land. Those cops chose to arrest him instead.
@gregsmith1878Ай бұрын
Did the title of this video change in the middle of me watching it?
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
It's an excerpt from a podcast, so it may have drifted into another area, but the gist of the conversation is rooted in the perceived disparity of the thought that military snipers aren't qualified to teach law enforcement snipers.
@gregsmith1878Ай бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER Totally understand. as a law enforcement officer of 32 years and a law enforcement sniper on a full time team for 26 years i totally understand your video. The best training I received during my time was two different urban sniper operation courses put on by a partnership with back then was called the USMC SOTG East Coast. I also have been to a snipercraft course back in 1997. MIL snipers have a seat at the table. period. thank you
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Right on. SOTG is now EOTG. I first was exposed to Snipercraft in 2001 - myself and the rest of the 1st MAR DIV Scout Sniper School staff went to thier competition in San Diego. There was a lot of bravado and definitives that came from Snipercraft, all of which caused us as a staff to look at one another and raise an eyebrow back then.
@docjamesjdjdАй бұрын
So on the reticle topic, if the Tremor 3 is counterintuitive then they do have the Tremor 5 that's recently came out or which reticle would you recommend that would be the best or one of the best for LEO/MIL work?
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
This is an opinion, nothing more, and my opinon is that a LE sniper needs simplicity. I do believe that a front focal plane optic is a better option than a 2nd, and that the reticle should be simple, such as a TMR, SKMR3 or 4, MSRK, or something equivalent. The reticle should be illuminated as well, and the thickness should be easily visible in low light situations.
@docjamesjdjdАй бұрын
@MODERNDAYSNIPER thank you, i know everyone has their own likes or dislikes but for me i was walking out of the stone age with a fixed power mil dot and wanted to step up so like you say all the military issue is Tremor 3 but I'm glad to know their are equally excellent options out there without the christmas yree type look.
@cavedweller364Ай бұрын
Aspiring to become LEO sniper Love your stuff bro
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Appreciate that, and good luck in your journey!
@Longshot762x51Ай бұрын
Just going to say this; we civs have the right to this training too, really aggravating to see "LEO/MIL Only" classes with the doors shut to citizens. Public servants work for US, not the other way around sorry.
@eleone6725Ай бұрын
It's not about denying civilians (which cops also are) any training, and your perceived rights don't entitle you to attend attend a military freefall or EOD school or to force a private business to change their training model. Maybe MDS has a different take on it, but to me it seems that LE and Mil guys training with their peers and sharing lessons learned in a course tailored to their gear and SOPs offers better professional development than a mixed class of hobbyists, hunters, and competition shooters, which will always include Mil/LEO guys anyway. There're no secrets being withheld from you.
@Longshot762x51Ай бұрын
@@eleone6725nothing "percieved" about my freedoms at all, you arrogant jerk. Im also not saying that we should shoehorn in and be a distraction to the pros either. What I AM saying is that the gatekeeping gets on my nerves because in the spirit of America we are supposed to be on par with the Feds as far as gear and skillset. Just tired of being looked down on by the Wiley-X-and-sleeve-tat gang because we want to be well-trained and in the know.
@richarddouglas7480Ай бұрын
We pay their flippen salaries, for Pete’s sake!!!
@richarddouglas7480Ай бұрын
There’s all manor off stuff civis don’t get taught. Tactics, and RECCE just to start
@kicker6274Ай бұрын
@@eleone6725Just wait until these guys are arresting gun owners because their dental plans are more important than your freedoms..
@sheepdawg6946Ай бұрын
Damnit. I bought a Tremor 3 to learn how to use for it for long range.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
All is not lost - however that reticle design is counterintuitive to how the brain processes visual information. There's far too much going on inside of it, and all the whiz-bang features work really awesome on a flat range with 10" and 12" targets in front of berms, but IMO it's all good idea-fairy stuff. No one is using that reticle for anything outside of it being issued to them in the mil, or it's dudes buying it simply because its the reticle mil guys use.
@eleone6725Ай бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER Looks like the USMC is starting to field the MRAD with a Tremor-equipped NF 7x35. The scope seems like a solid choice, but what reticle (NF or otherwise) would you choose if you were SecDef for the day?
@Atmos486Ай бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER I'm actually close to buying a nx8 2.5-20 tremor3. It would be awesome if you made a video about the different reticles out there and whats the go to.
@docjamesjdjdАй бұрын
Same here. I just bought a Nightforce with Tremor 3 to learn and train with because everyone says it's the best. Lol
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
The reticle I would choose is something along the lines of the NF Mil-XT, Kahles SKMR-4, or ZCO's MPCT2. I'm not saying that tree-style reticles are bad - they're applicable, however the mess in front of your face with the Tremors is full of good-idea-fairy stuff to bedazzle the end-user into thinking it's what they need. It certainly worked, but you've gotta ask yourself; if it's so awesome why aren't there more field match competitors using it because the Tremor 3 is pretty low on the choice list in that world.
@scarsmanАй бұрын
Thank you for saying this. Having been to a Snipercraft class with Bartlett himself, I'll just say, "No, thank you very much!" Never again. This was very professionally said. Thank you.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Appreciate the feedback - onward!! Stay tuned, we're not going to stop!
Crickets.... EDIT - to add a thank-you for responding below.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Chirp, chirp...
@fasteddie9890Ай бұрын
Thanks for the podcast. I'm looking forward to further back and forth on the issues of reliability of rifles vs. scopes, or ideally, to meet up with the Rokslide folks. If they aren't doing it ideally, maybe you and they can come up with improvements.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Glad you liked it. The only issue I have is that these guys are the only ones stating there's a problem. If you look at virtually every upper echelon shooter in both PRS and NRL, they're shooting Mk5's. Most of those guys are backcountry hunters too, traveling the globe shooting and hunting. Sponsored or not, I know for a fact that none of them are willing to risk loss of points or animals due to a mechanically inferior scope. If they are willing to turn a blind eye, then that's on them. My experiences in my career differ 180 opposite of those test findings - and I have no safe queens. I'm hard on my gear, but I don't abuse it, nor do I find that my gear is excessively abused in the mountains. I was an infantry sniper, and our gear was put under significantly harder use than anything a mountain hunter will experience. I took a Leupold Mk4 to war, along with 7x other rifles, and none of us experienced zero retention issues, even after rifles were subjected to explosions, and direct impacts from fragmentation. The circumstances that are cited as the cause of these zero retention issues are quite isolated, IMO. I find that it's far more associated with improper understanding of fundamentals, and extremely low round counts in training. If you give someone a reason to doubt their equipment, and they're not shooting nearly enough to be proficient, then yes, people will absolutely find reasons to blame a mechanical issue when it's really poor fundamentals.
@fasteddie9890Ай бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER thank you for the reply, and all of what you posted makes sense. Based on your experience, then it would seem that a properly mounted scope, on a solid rifle, should not lose zero from being dropped at some minimal height (I think the first is 18"). So why not get together with them and see either why they are experiencing those results, or point out what is wrong with their methodology? I anticipate that logistics and time are of course factors, but maybe you all can meet up somewhere convenient.
@nickk964Ай бұрын
Wow this looks so good, im gonna do my hunting rifle just like this i like it so much
@FrontierAdventureCharter-pe6qoАй бұрын
Please take Ryan up on his offer. More discussion/ experiences are always better than few and likley both sides will come out with better information and the shooting public will be the winners
@BobbyDucati1Ай бұрын
Another great solo podcast . Looking forward to my next in person class and the new places in the line up.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Right on Bobby, it's coming, just hafta stop moving for a few....
@jimothy-johnsonАй бұрын
I'm only typing this because there's a chance you may be receptive to the feedback. I've tried to cover most of the stuff you said about the issues with scope drop-testing. You spent time extolling the overbuilt reliability of AI rifles. Which hey they're great, I've owned an AI AT before. But imagine if when you had issues with R700 clones in the past you treated that with the same attitude you treat scopes that can't withstand moderate impacts. I'm not talking about falling down a cliff or anything but one of the examples you gave was a rifle leaning against something and falling over to the ground. "I'm having failures to extract/eject/feed. Well rifles just aren't built to function reliably all the time I guess..." But there ARE rifles built with reliability in mind, AI being a great example of that. The "scopes and rings aren't built to withstand that" angle is so odd given scopes exist that explicitly are built to withstand side to side forces. Nightforce ATACRs for instance all get slammed onto a hard surface from 4-5 different angles and checked on a collimator prior to leaving the factory. Does that make them perfect? No but hey at least they're trying and make clear engineering/testing decisions to try to work towards zero retention. The rings not being built for it angle I don't get. Unless you can say what parts of the ring designs of ARC, Hawkins, Area419, Badger, Nightforce, etc have a weakness to side impacts. As for needing to do 100s of tests to come to a scientific conclusion, you're not wrong but you're also not right. A scope model passing the drop-test isn't definitive POSITIVE proof of anything. But a scope failing (and when one does fail they normally get/test its replacement) is concerning. Because the likelihood of getting two scopes in a row which can't pass a testing procedure that other scopes like NF, SWFA, Trijicon, and Maven can pass is extremely low unless there's an underlying design issue. The drop-testing is more about producing negative results than positive ones because the negative results still mean something with a small sample size due to how probability works. Sure hundreds of tests would be great but given the full test is 3000 rounds, a bunch of driving around on mountain roads with the rifle in the back, and droptesting that's a bit of a tall order. I don't see why we have to let the perfect be the enemy of the good here.
@FrontierAdventureCharter-pe6qoАй бұрын
The test rifle action is also glued into stock removing that variable and the rings used are consistent and quality. The fact that multiple of some models pass/fail shows the consistency is working. There is zero downsides to these tests and many upsides when companies start listening and addressing systemic issues. Anyone that has a "problem" with these tests affiliations should be questioned
@jimothy-johnsonАй бұрын
@@FrontierAdventureCharter-pe6qo I mentioned that in reply to one of his comments here but it got deleted by either KZbin or him.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Nobody here deletes comments.
@colesammons2137Ай бұрын
Really hope you take up Ryan Avery’s offer to participate in the drop tests in person
@yotecaller6188Ай бұрын
Judging by your comments towards people, it looks like you have a hard time processing other peoples opinions as well.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
That’s an interesting perspective, appreciate you.
@lycheeznutsАй бұрын
Sounds like sour grapes. Your response is typical of someone who is compensated by or emotionally invested in a brand that doesnt pass the drop test. The test seems to hurt a lot of ppls feelings. You should link up with them and drop your scopes with them to get a full understanding of what that test entails (if your sponsors or will let you). I think you would learn something. You'd probably get more clicks too(which looks like what you're trying to do here) all the best
@allene.5306Ай бұрын
"You zero is shifting because your fundamentals suck." (I'm paraphrasing.) This is GOLD!
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Truth stings a bit!
@jacobsobell4751Ай бұрын
Caylen, i really respect your advice regarding shooting skill but this podcast has me for the first time questioning your motives and critical thinking. You clearly have not read up on the Rokslide drop test or you are intentionally bashing them to avoid denigrating sponsors/donors. Pick one but be honest about it. On one hand you say the AI rifles are just better and flat out shoot but one of the main contributors to this is the glued in receivers eliminating shifting in the chassis. The Rokslide drop tests are performed with a glued in rifle. You then applaud the shift to new more reliable scopes away from the delicate Unertl scope which is a direct parallel to the Rokslide drop tests. Your dismissal of the results based upon shooter skill and ballistic apps and ammo changes is silly considering the official tests are performed by the same shooter with the same lot of ammo at only 100yrds. Groups include 30rounds zeros to include true cone of fire accuracy not 3rnd cherry picking and not thousand yard hopes and dreams. When scopes fail with supplied rings the scope is swapped to known passing rings and retested. Control scope is remounted and verifies no change in rifle system. So the only legitimate variable is the test scope. I just find it very hypocritical to promote changing to better equipment while bashing others for promoting testing their equipment so they can change to better more reliable equipment for their rifle SYSTEMS. Also, everyone skips rechecking zero after impacts, including you, I would bet a $1,000 on that. EVERYONE has a threshold of acceptable “abuse”. Do you kick you family out of the car for their safety after each pot hole until you can get it to the shop and double check the reliability? Doubt it. Do you recheck zero on your rifle if a snow flake impacts your turret? If a willow twig hits the objective? Do you double check zero ever time to set your pack down with the rifle strapped to it? Doubt it. Would you double check the Unertl more than a Nightforce? If so, why is the same logic not applied to Roksliders after testing the limits of their entire rifle setup (including scope)? I highly recommend take the Shoot2Hunt crew up on their invitation to participate in the drop tests yourself. This would eliminate the poor shooter skill and you could verify the process for yourself and maybe learn something. In the meantime, scopes that can’t hold zero riding in a truck or side by side will still get ridiculed on Rokslide.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
Sounds like you’re having a hard time processing someone else’s opinions, and that’s ok. And, if that’s all you got out of that cast-is you’re upset about my POV on the beloved Rokslide testing (it MIGHT be take seriously if there were some kind of repetitive fixture added to the mix) then you’re probably biased as shit. For the record, the only paid sponsorship I have has been with me for 10 years now, and the other non-paid sponsorship I have has been with me for 15 years now, which is Proof Research. No one pays me to say, or shoot, anything. To your point-my rifles ride around in my TruckVault all year long, switching in and out for different missions. Let’s go with hunting rifles. My primary and alternate bounced around for quite a few trips up and down dirt roads, about an hour and a half up and down, and when I pulled them out and shot a rock at 680 yards, both hit dead center, two shots each. Guess what? The scopes? Both Mk5’s. Astounding, right?! Then, a few days later I killed a really nice buck at 560 yards. Miraculously, no zero shift. And, no zero shift in all the years prior either, with lotta animals racked up. You disagree, awesome. Rock on. You unfollow because of this? Sounds good too. ✌️
@jacobsobell4751Ай бұрын
@ thank you for your response. Im not upset that your opinion is different, just disappointed that it is so misleading and lacking details. Usually you opinions are based on facts and include details and logic…so no, not upset, just disappointed is all. I did not think you would intentionally spew biased info for the sake of a sponsor which leaved me to believe you aren’t fully grasping the purpose of the tests or how they are conducted. You have already admitted these tests have some level of validity in saying the Unertl system less reliably maintained zero than its replacement. How is it that certain modern scope brands or scope models can pass these tests without wandering zeros yet others are hit/miss or out right failures? If I told you I have never had a zero shift with my anecdotal Unertl would that then mean that you are wrong in saying they are too delicate and lose zero at the thought of a breeze? Would it mean that my Unertl holds zero because I am a better shooter (doubtful by the way)? If your family’s life depended upon it, you are willing to take whatever popular scope over a scope that can withstand these tests? In your opinion, if it isn’t the scope and it is the shooter which results in the perceived scope failure, would you accept that some scopes are more reliable than others if the rifle was entirely glued together prior to drop testing and only shot from a bolted in fixture? The fixture repeatability could be proofed to maintain zero after say 25 reinstalls for 10 shot groups without dropping the rifle to remove the fixture from the variables. Are there other parameters you feel would make the results more valid? Would it be more palatable if the scopes were rated on multiple levels of durability instead of just a pass/fail? Would it be more palatable if the drop surface was uniformed and the rating system was in 6” increments? Would you accept the results then if this detailed testing showed some scopes pass 36” drops, some scopes pass 18” drops and some scopes only pass 6” drops? These are all honest and serious questions because clearly you and I both agree, some scopes are more repeatable than others. Just trying to find an infallible middle ground where skeptics will accept the results or the testing can be improved.
@elkklr2 ай бұрын
I wish you would have read up on the purpose of the drop test before you speak so bad about it. I would recommend you listen to shoot 2 hunt podcast 34. Or get ahold of Ryan and go see the proof for yourself. You don’t have to chase your zero or rezero with tested scopes.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
What makes you think I didn’t read up on it? Or is your statement based more out of your inability to see someone else’s opinion? I see about 300 students a year, and we shoot about 100-120 rounds fired a day from each student. So, 300 students firing an average of 350 rounds a class is about 105,000 rounds a year. I directly observe about 2/3 of those shots get sent, directly correlating them to student input. Zeros shift as a result of shooter input, 95% of the time. Ballistic computer doesn’t line up? It’s your zero, 99% of the time. Why does that zero shift? Because the student is learning their rifle and how to address it. Zeros are directly proportional to the inputs into the rifle, even more so for lightweight hunting rifles.
@jimothy-johnsonАй бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER "What makes you think I didn’t read up on it?" Gun to my head (pun not intended) what makes me think you didn't read up on it is the fact that you're a smart guy and if you did read up on it you'd understand it better than you do. That doesn't mean you'd necessarily take it as gospel but you'd at least understand how it works on a basic level. You talked about the variables of action/stock connection, scope base to action connection, and rings as reasons you can't necessarily blame the scope. The testing procedure controls for all of those and even a cursory glance at it would have shown you that. You would probably also have seen the idea of how NEGATIVE results mean something even with small sample sizes due to how probability works. You clearly haven't put in the effort to understand how the testing works and seem to be getting defensive when called out on it. You're not unethical it just seems like you went out of your depth talking about this and backed yourself into a corner that you might be too prideful to let yourself out of.
@alphajam12 ай бұрын
A fluid head is way better than a ball head. It can move very smooth without a cant.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
This is true, however fluid heads aren’t practical for shooting for the reason you mentioned-no (or very limited and cumbersome) ability to adjust for cant.
@alphajam1Ай бұрын
@MODERNDAYSNIPER they have the base that you can mount that will cant to level but once you lock it down you will not lose your plum panning and tilting like a ball head.
@refugium-eco2 ай бұрын
Curious if anyone has tried the Spuhr SICS? Looks super rigid compared to KRG polymer chassis. I will definitely check out AI chassis as well.
@MODERNDAYSNIPERАй бұрын
When I looked at the SPUHR chassis I found the buttstock connection to have an undesirable amount of flex under even a small amount of lateral and torsional pressure.