Tripod Shooting - 3 Mistakes When Shooting from a Tripod

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MODERN DAY SNIPER

MODERN DAY SNIPER

Күн бұрын

Hey guys, here's a quick #tripodtuesday video for you on the three common mistakes we see shooters make when shooting from tripods.
Modern marksmanship mechanics and higher quality equipment have changed the way we address the rifle from the tripod.
If you guys like this video, head over to www.moderndayrifleman.com where we have our online community, our monthly subscription service, and our full line of digital masterclasses.
The tripod I'm using in this video is a Really Right Stuff TFCT-24L with an Anvil 30 ball head.
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@scottbeverly188
@scottbeverly188 7 ай бұрын
I just ordered my first tripod today because I am in need of a steady rest due to Parkinsons' disease. I have enjoyed long guns most of my life, but the shaking made me set them to the side for a time. I have subscribed to your channel and plan on picking up proper methods of tripod shooting in hopes I can once again start enjoying my rifles once again. Thanks for the lessons and your time to put it together.
@Roddy556
@Roddy556 5 ай бұрын
This is one of the crispest shooting skills videos I have ever seen. No product placement (except the obvious) or buzz words, just some good tips and techniques.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork
@PrecisionRifleNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Really appreciate the bit about clipping in versus the table and bag. I always just clipped in at the balance point. I will be trying this and clipping in further forward. Thanks!
@CadPRSstudent
@CadPRSstudent 2 жыл бұрын
Content has been getting better and better! Worth being on the modern day rifleman network and the people in it are also amazing.
@bradleywaters8857
@bradleywaters8857 2 жыл бұрын
Great information. Very thorough and I really appreciate that you take the time to really show each technique instead of just explaining. My brain won’t retain anything unless I can see it
@alexs1972
@alexs1972 2 жыл бұрын
Love these body mechanic videos! Really helps me to go back through my personal footage and see the details I'm completely missing
@Roddy556
@Roddy556 5 ай бұрын
Rare you see a video like this where the creator doesn't say the real secret is a specific whiz-bang exclusive product you should buy. He just says yeah you need to shoot better 😂
@bigracer3867
@bigracer3867 2 жыл бұрын
My first mistake is I don’t have one. Woods! Got a bipod
@paddlesmcbean2366
@paddlesmcbean2366 Жыл бұрын
Love my bog pod. Want to upgrade it to a ball head. It also needs to be a little higher.
@henryhester1897
@henryhester1897 2 жыл бұрын
Omg! I never thought about clipping so forward to eliminate vertical wobble. Can’t wait to dryfire off the deck in the next few days. A lot of these tips were given by Paul Spriggs as he coached me last weekend. Like scooting up to the legs. Thank you, I’ll check your site.
@jasonburgwardt9102
@jasonburgwardt9102 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most informative channel , I’ve leaned in my tripod for years and never considered these techniques . Also outtakes are a great touch
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! Outtakes are fun to edit too!
@stephensynergy
@stephensynergy Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you, Caylen! I've not practiced on a tripod, but will seek it out with your wisdom applied standing, high kneeling, and low kneeling.
@ghassankabbach2006
@ghassankabbach2006 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful advice and loads of information!
@The340king
@The340king 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome tips. I typically hunt sitting down calling in coyotes. I sometimes use a monopod and these tips certainly apply to that use.
@c.k.l.2154
@c.k.l.2154 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very useful!
@Captainpaulbtyhtr
@Captainpaulbtyhtr 2 жыл бұрын
Great video , very informative and zero fluff .
@ericquintana1900
@ericquintana1900 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you!
@mr.nobody68
@mr.nobody68 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content, coach
@daveenriquez7790
@daveenriquez7790 2 ай бұрын
Great tips, I have seen alot of content where people clip in their Arca rails in the middle balence point. I like it forward on the forearm as you explained very well. This was also a great demonstration on keeping your knees, hips and shoulders aligned. "Subscribed"
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@russellleavitt4449
@russellleavitt4449 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Gives me some great ideas for use of my Bog death grip tripod. I am very satisfied with mine.
@JM10344
@JM10344 Жыл бұрын
Good advice, the bluepers at the end were a nice touch. 👌
@OwnTheHunt
@OwnTheHunt Жыл бұрын
Literally the best tripod shooting explanation video I have seen! Well done sir! everything you mentioned is just spot on!!!!
@alessiob8700
@alessiob8700 8 ай бұрын
Great content! It's incredible how fast technique is evolving in recent years.
@michaelhallinan532
@michaelhallinan532 Жыл бұрын
exactly what i was looking for. Glad i saw this before buying my gear. Thank you!
@robertdimeski4173
@robertdimeski4173 Жыл бұрын
Great job pal very informative appreciate your time 👍🇦🇺
@GBW175
@GBW175 2 жыл бұрын
Good info. I’ve seen me struggling with these issues. More!👍🏻🇺🇸
@snprdog
@snprdog 2 жыл бұрын
Exceptional content!
@michaellanter8562
@michaellanter8562 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Great video.
@Regnisab
@Regnisab Жыл бұрын
This is great information. Thanks
@huntfishtrapandgather6997
@huntfishtrapandgather6997 Жыл бұрын
having never used a tripod before this is an awesome video. I took my tripod to the NRL Hunter championship match last week in Idaho and failed to properly use my tripod on any of the 20 stages. Next year will be different- thanks
@zigjib
@zigjib 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this channel and love it. It's super informative. Just some observations from my own personal experience, not to criticize but to perhaps get clarity and hopefully more information: 1. The analogy of "we don't lean forward to shake someone's hand"..... No we don't... but if someone was going to try and push us over, we would lean in, which is what the rifle is going to try and do to us when it fires. From a combat shooting perspective, we encourage a 5 degree bend at the hips. This is to assist in recoil mitigation, but it's not so extreme that it causes gross engagement of the core. In my experience, I have found that a very slight bend at the hips to be beneficial to help maintain a proper indexing of the rifle to shoulder and assist in mitigating recoil. From looking at your position when you get behind the rifle in a standing position, that directly upright position isn't maintained, eg. There isn't a straight line between your ankles, hips and shoulders. So is the teaching point here, a minor or slight bend in the hips is ok, however we don't want to be leaning so far in that we are basically using the tripod to support our weight, and the analogy is used to try and encourage a more vertical position than what is typically seen? 2. The use of muscle. We are always engaging muscle, even when just standing around, or we'd fall over. So i'm finding a lot of the time people think they are supposed to be this completely dead weight behind the rifle due to the idea that they should be completely relaxed. There's minor subconscious muscle use being involved in the shooting operation when building the position, and i believe the take away might be, not to use GROSS muscle during the firing operation, eg, like a squat would be. My understanding is that we use our bicep to pull the rifle back into us in the prone position, but we don't drive forward with our shoulder. The bicep is a major muscle, so it's still being used? What i've seen, on the line and in myself, is that when i am standing square behind the rifle, i have a habbit of locking my knees out so that i am not engaging leg muscle, until i'm ready to fire. I have also seen people let their hips roll forward and their back take the pressure while standing, but they set the tripod up to their "chillin" position, and when it comes time to fire, they find their posture has been compromised and they are too low. The Teaching points i was given was that, in the same way as we stand non master foot forward in the combat shooting stance, so shall it be when behind the tripod. The concern of one foot forward, one foot back is that we have a propensity to blade off which affects our recoil management, however we can mitigate this through the "feet on rails" analogy where our feet point straight ahead (the body follows the feet) to maintain the forward position of the hips and shoulders, with the pro of this position being that we are still in our dynamic position, our rear foot apply pressure forward naturally, not through force, and is ready to catch us during the recoil operation, whilst the front foot is supporting the body as the centre of gravity shifts forward slightly due to the 5 degree bend in the hips. When we are in the gym and we are doing over head press, we stand one foot forward and one back to support ourselves and help ease pressure off the core. So it made sense to me to move to that stance to support my upper body. I've found this to be a more neutral position and feel this is superior to standing straight behind the rifle, but it doesn't afford me the ability to adjust my position with the widening and closing of my stance like the square behind the rifle position does and it can cause the rear foot to blade out which causes the body to follow if we move our feet in and out. Please don't see this as argumentative, i'm genuinely just trying to get the classic "what, how, why, vs" of the position in order to understand what changing to this style is offering me. So i guess my Question is, is a slight bend in the hips ok? Why am i standing square behind the rifle vs one foot forward one foot back? I'm eager to hear anyone's opinion on this as i'm still in the learning phase for tripod shooting and i'm consciously incompetent. Thanks in advance
@Hootie22B
@Hootie22B Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great video the tips will help correct mistakes I would have made !!!
@STALKR1
@STALKR1 Жыл бұрын
I watched this the morning of Record Fire 4 (Movers) of U.S. Army Sniper School. Prior to watching your video I was really struggling with my standing tripod shooting (I had never shot off a tripod before coming to Sniper School). I got 3/3 of those standing tripod shots on a moving target 9 inches wide thanks to your tips. Thank you much!
@fkin8shyt
@fkin8shyt Жыл бұрын
You get your B4?
@russellleavitt4449
@russellleavitt4449 Жыл бұрын
The Bog death grip tripod does have a level on it to get your firing position level for accuracy. This way if you have to set up on uneven surfaces your assured of consistent accuracy. Up/down and left/right transition.
@99Z155
@99Z155 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Caylen! Can’t believe I didn’t see this earlier.
@WildernessMedic
@WildernessMedic Жыл бұрын
What you were saying about rifle placement on the tripod makes sense, but you are the first person that I’ve heard saying you don’t want to have it near the center of gravity!
@jameskozlowski5496
@jameskozlowski5496 6 ай бұрын
Same principle as having your bipod as far forward as possible less verticle dispersion of barrel wobble induced with the focal point closest to the muzzle.
@texlee1640
@texlee1640 5 ай бұрын
So if we don't want to clip the rifle in further back towards the bottom metal then why are we seeing so many stock manufacturers starting to put Arca Swiss rails in those positions? I understand the mechanics of it and the advantage for stability when clipped in further out towards the muzzle but I don't understand why the industry is pushing for the opposite if it doesn't support proper mechanics. It's good to see some more modern technique applied to shooting off of tripods, the last time I took a class that touched on it was some 5-6 years ago and they were still teaching the weight into the tripod process. Thanks for sharing, this video was very informative.
@fmt5327
@fmt5327 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always! Outtakes 🤣😂
@christaluongo8919
@christaluongo8919 Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@robertarguello1115
@robertarguello1115 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@22guru
@22guru Ай бұрын
Good looking out
@MrBIGJAM88
@MrBIGJAM88 6 ай бұрын
Recommendations for a tripod that works for someone taller? 6’5” plus?
@apexshootingandtacticsllc7597
@apexshootingandtacticsllc7597 Жыл бұрын
Excellent content
@Rexwagon1
@Rexwagon1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@theoutlawjoseywales8711
@theoutlawjoseywales8711 11 ай бұрын
Very well done video... I learned SOOO much!... Gear Question: What brand tactical table and where to buy?
@marklythgoe7031
@marklythgoe7031 Жыл бұрын
really informative video .. what rail system are you using . I like the way the rifle clipped in ..
@bikeracerdude
@bikeracerdude Жыл бұрын
Good stuff.
@40beretta1
@40beretta1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time. In the past two years, one of the greatest joys in my life. My daughter has begun hunting with me, she's now 14. She has a true aptitude for Archery and shooting. She began learn marksmanship; starting with air to live rounds. I take it to heart the advice MDS provides and to pass it down to her. We have in out future a Western U.S. big game hunt. Learning proper safety, fundamental's and techniques are paramount to an ethical harvest. In 17:min. This video gave me fundamental's I didn't even consider. from proper stance to pulling the rifle to your shoulder if you're using a tripod. Ironically, my daughter felt more comfortable shouldering her rifle with her back and hips in line. Maybe she's been watching your channel. 🤔 By chance do you have a video for these fundamentals'; shooting from elevated and ground blinds. Seated in a chair. Thank you again; Aim True
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Our fundamental videos can be found over at www.moderndayrifleman.com
@RedSalamanderr
@RedSalamanderr Жыл бұрын
Great content! Was wondering where you got your camo net attached to your tripod on your spotting scope? I’ve got to get me one of those!!
@barbandrob1
@barbandrob1 Жыл бұрын
Good info…thx Lol….I’m always shooting above, around or below something…. Will try spreading feet to stay more upright
@34589k
@34589k 2 жыл бұрын
Gold!
@billcarlson852
@billcarlson852 2 жыл бұрын
You have a well "balanced" presentation.......
@russellleavitt4449
@russellleavitt4449 Жыл бұрын
One thing I always work on is let the tripod do the work. Transition in this situation can be difficult unless you are up/down adjustable for near/far and left/right available for the firing position.
@pavelyakimov
@pavelyakimov Жыл бұрын
Hi Keylan, nice video, buddy! Informative and detailed. Thank you for this! I have a question. Since I am interested in Kopfjager tripods, can you do a review with one of theirs with the Reaper Grip Kit and gave us some heads up. Is this possible? What do you think? Thanks!
@Timberdam
@Timberdam Жыл бұрын
Glad I found your channel ! What kind of Tripod are you using ?
@reconhippy8352
@reconhippy8352 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid. What's the best tripod you've come across?
@daveh9907
@daveh9907 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like good advise, but i am concerned when shooting a moving target and need to be able to raise or lower the muzzle and swing all at the same time...Thanks this will make me a better shooter!
@MrTmn2401
@MrTmn2401 Жыл бұрын
1000 Tnx from Denmark.
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru Жыл бұрын
Great content - Thanks for sharing. Curious to see a video on using a saddle vice with a semiautomatic rifle since the weight distribution will be at the end of the rifle. Each time I clamp one in it still tilts a little.
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 7 ай бұрын
Same here!
@JustAnibal
@JustAnibal 4 ай бұрын
I just watched the first 53 sec and subscribed
@Darkpool79
@Darkpool79 2 жыл бұрын
This is the way
@brynybach7741
@brynybach7741 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and valid information. One question please but nothing to do with the lesson, what is the brand of your hat? Looks warm, comfortable and practical. Many thanks.
@AzEagleEye
@AzEagleEye 4 ай бұрын
I can't believe that no one asked about the nice looking & practical jacket that you are wearing in this vid. Can you please share info on it? I've had no luck find the brand label online. Thanks for the comprehensive & detailed tripod use vid.
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru 7 ай бұрын
First time on the channel. Great content! I’m not a precision shooter, but I want to zero my semiautomatic rifle accurately at an indoor range (by using a holdover POA to a POI target that matches a ballistic table at 25 yards for a 50 yard zero) using a tripod. I’m using a vice style set up which does have a little wobble. It’s an inexpensive (but not cheap) SLIK Tripod PRO 700 DX AMT KIT with a pan head. I just heard you say that having a center post is the reason for wobble. Could it also be that I am also attaching the pan head to the rifle vice? With that said, should I be looking at a tripod without a a center post and migrate to an Arca setup. If so, what do you recommend for a setup for less than 500 dollars?
@paulthiebaut
@paulthiebaut 25 күн бұрын
I was expecting a photography tips and tricks video
@russellleavitt4449
@russellleavitt4449 Жыл бұрын
Great Again for your use of the sand bag support on the tripod. Unfortunately you can't let go of the weapon in this state.
@cayo3955
@cayo3955 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you/all🤘
@DRay-or4tc
@DRay-or4tc 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Excellent presentation.
@williamsweet7511
@williamsweet7511 Жыл бұрын
where do I purchase the tripod you used in the video? new to the channel. thanks for great information
@callumhepworth-smith6376
@callumhepworth-smith6376 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mate, first time watching your vids, but can i ask if you always set up your tripod orientation with two legs back and one forward?
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, it's situationally dependent. In most situations I prefer one leg forward as it makes the recoil impulse more repeatable and the rifle comes right back to the initial sight picture. In the mountains or in other situations shooting uphill or downhill one leg back is a better option.
@jimbowalsh273
@jimbowalsh273 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👌, what tripods are you using ?
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Really Right Stuff SOAR line.
@michaelbattin6717
@michaelbattin6717 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@dadcolangelo236
@dadcolangelo236 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find the Tac Table in the video? I haven't been able to find many options online aside from the MUB ($$$), heavy steel options, or printed plastic.
@w.harrison7277
@w.harrison7277 Жыл бұрын
What is needed is a study of which positions produce varying amounts of jitter into the sight picture. My study shows the fundamental problem with the tripod in terms of performance is the hinge point being near the center of the rifle's length. This means one millimeter of vertical movement produces one millimeter of vertical muzzle movement. If the hinge point was half of that distance closer to the muzzle, at 75% of total length, then one millimeter of vertical movement produces .5 mm of muzzle movement. In my study of different slings and contraptions the jitter could not be significantly reduced, it can't compare to a bench setup. On the other hand, I've hit a mile off tripod many times so how good does it need to be?
@airaddict6171
@airaddict6171 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man I was wondering what you have in that bag on the tac table that looks so plush I need something like that 🤘🏻 I just got into a tripod and this helped out tremendously
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a Schmedium Gamechanger waxed canvas bag with heavy (sand) fill
@airaddict6171
@airaddict6171 2 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER thanks
@waynegroves6922
@waynegroves6922 2 жыл бұрын
@@airaddict6171 If you want to "old school" it, back in the day we used discarded jean legs - two, one inside the other, for one sandbag; fill it up with sand (sand density is an acquired taste - some like it to be really packed and firm, others not so much), then wire-tie each end. The wire-tie I used was the bare ground wire out of a 12-2 Romex line; the stuff is strong and twists tight. Mine lasted for over 25 years; later, I used it for hammer-forming sheet metal, so they're stout. You can tailor-cut the length of bag you need for almost any use.
@airaddict6171
@airaddict6171 2 жыл бұрын
@@waynegroves6922 thank you I’m going to try that out 👍😀
@fkin8shyt
@fkin8shyt Жыл бұрын
@@airaddict6171 Did you try it out?
@rifledog1
@rifledog1 9 ай бұрын
How do you establish a natural point of aim with a tripod? Or is establishing the sight picture and putting the least amount of input on the rifle what is key?
@TexasTrained
@TexasTrained 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. One problem with tall tripod as hooting is if something c I me running at you LETS SAY A HOG you can not raise your stock high enough to make the shot. How do I know? Happened to me twice.
@davidhenderson1738
@davidhenderson1738 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I just pulled my pistol out.
@Canadaman4403
@Canadaman4403 Жыл бұрын
Have you got any trekking polls that convert into shooting sticks recommendations? these tripods are fine for truck hunting but not for hike Ing in weight sensative
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER Жыл бұрын
I'll use trekking poles for hasty solutions but my tripod goes with my rifle, literally everywhere.
@donv2225
@donv2225 2 жыл бұрын
How much cheek pressure should you be placing on the rifle?
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Not much at all; should be gentle pressure along the jaw line, keeping the head upright
@jeansandmyshirt
@jeansandmyshirt 2 жыл бұрын
you didn't mention the use of bubble measure for precision shooting. I put one on top of my scope to check for perfect balance.
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
That's implied knowledge/skills at this point in ones' training. We'd consider this an advanced skill, whereas using a level is a basic skill for the long range shooter.
@jeansandmyshirt
@jeansandmyshirt 2 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER does the bubble help in sighting the scope? I was watching bod death grip tripod video and the guy said I always use bubble device whenever I shoot anything lol
@quintonhealey9580
@quintonhealey9580 2 жыл бұрын
What chassis is that rifle on?
@x_jaydn
@x_jaydn 2 жыл бұрын
Are you using the spike tips or rubberized bulbs for your tripod feet? 🤔
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Rubber feet.
@michaelbattin6717
@michaelbattin6717 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy that tripod rifleman
@DCSuperShine
@DCSuperShine 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Learned a TON… I’m all about quality products… but $1500 for a tripod is insanity… any advice on something under $500…
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not insane after you shoot off of one! Two Vets Sporting Goods is an excellent lower cost alternative that has about the same rigidity and stability.
@DCSuperShine
@DCSuperShine 2 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER I get it! And I’m sure you’re right. Fir some of us, price comes into factor :) thanks for the quick reply I’ll check them out.
@GD-zj2dl
@GD-zj2dl 2 жыл бұрын
​@@DCSuperShine BOG Deathgrip Shooting Tripod
@waynegroves6922
@waynegroves6922 2 жыл бұрын
@@GD-zj2dl I jumped out and looked it over, and liked it enough to snip a page copy for future reference; I just may pick that one up.
@robertsalyers1351
@robertsalyers1351 Жыл бұрын
Bog death grip is a very good tripod for about $170 ...I've been using mine with great success
@derricksmoothy4392
@derricksmoothy4392 7 ай бұрын
I tried today but it was a failure. But, I'll get it, I just need more practice.
@alexsevandra465
@alexsevandra465 Жыл бұрын
What Bipod are you using?
@Ohmslaw1
@Ohmslaw1 10 ай бұрын
Regardless of the weapon platform: feet, ankles, knees, hips, back, shoulders and head.
@nickysmith7016
@nickysmith7016 Жыл бұрын
Anyone have an idea what chassis is being used in this video?
@ericng8491
@ericng8491 21 күн бұрын
What brand tripod are you using like to get one? 16:28
@KC558
@KC558 9 ай бұрын
Great content as always. But can we stop saying "heigth" already? 😂
@goldenkangaroo4969
@goldenkangaroo4969 Жыл бұрын
Listen here Young Man, If you ever get to live to ripe old age of 86, You will walk up to a person like you demonstrated at 5:11 of your video. 🤭 Live well my friend.
@rssolutions43
@rssolutions43 2 жыл бұрын
Fire.
@REBELflagFLYIN747
@REBELflagFLYIN747 5 ай бұрын
What chassis is that @0:36?
@aleksandarrac7106
@aleksandarrac7106 Жыл бұрын
👍 !!!
@TACOHOG
@TACOHOG 2 жыл бұрын
Good work on the video brother, but I have to ask how well do these techniques actually manage recoil? It seemed like the tripods in the B-roll footage at the beginning of the vid were hopping quite a bit? Forward pressure into the tripod technique is meant to be utilized with a sling, bridging the gap, and tieing the tripod and shooter together; mimicking the surface area coverage on the ground that is achieved with the prone position. The sling reduces/eliminates muscle fatigue, tripod "holds you up". Legs locked for bone support. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying go full horizontal with your lean, there is definitely a happy medium. Shoulders slightly ahead of the balls of the feet for forward pressure helps keep that forward tripod leg down and the rifle from coming off target. Not saying this doesn't work, or isn't a "different" technique or way of doing business, but to say the other way is "mistaken" I think is a bit off as well? To be fair, I will give it a try with a suppressed 40 and see how it goes and do my best to report back my findings. Standard I'll use being 300yd 10" disc. ⚡⚡
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
They work very well to manage recoil. The rifle in the video is a lightweight hunting rig chambered in 7mm RSAUM and weighs about 11 lbs. Shooting that rifle clipped in to a tripod isn't the best idea for recoil management and it's going to move regardless of body position. I was simply using it in the video as a training tool for myself to work on. If you try these techniques you'll find that leaning into the tripod isn't necessary. I'm one of the people that taught your predecessors the techniques you're still using, so I understand where you're coming from. Anything that recoils heavily, I opt for a tac table and a bag anymore. It's a superior method of tripod shooting to clipped in in that scenario. If you cruise over to www.moderndayrifleman.com you'll find a written article that goes a little deeper. I'll be posting another video using a Triggercam to compare recoil recovery across 3x cartridges, clipped in, and then using a tac table and bag. In all honesty they only place I can see a use for a belt sling is a very high-risk shot in a selected target/HR scenario. Outside of that, using modern marksmanship techniques and a solid tripod is all you need to be effective.
@TACOHOG
@TACOHOG 2 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER Cool brother. I will check out the article. I sincerely appreciate the "boot humor" ⚡⚡with your quote "the techniques you taught my predecessors, and that I still teach today" comment. I thought for sure you salt dogs were only using shooting sticks lashed with 550 cord, sandsock filled with sand while dialing dope on your Unertl lol. In all honesty, those techniques are still taught today because they work... and the shooters generally don't come off target from recoil. Since you know where I'm coming from, all I'm trying to capture here is that when Lcpl Pigface comes here to watch this video and thinks that you dont need forward pressure, or to be clipped in, whilst shooting his M40 off of his dogshit issued tripod, he's gonna be mistaken. Then when I'm counting his pig ass down for his 2nd round engagement, he won't be able to find the target after his tripod rocked back. If you have the luxury to set the tripod up specifically to you, and you don't have to consider shooting over, under, or through, and you have a RRS tripod, then I'm sure this technique works great. I guess to summarize, if you're gonna say you would only clip in for the "shots that matter" i.e. the hostage rescue/selected target scenario, (or a trophy buck??), then it's still a valid way of doing business, and I wouldn't blatantly label it "mistaken" or insinuate that we "haven't evolved" - it's just another tool for the toolbox, and I would still advocate your methods for when they'd be appropriate. I'm curious to look into the tac-table you mentioned. I do appreciate the work you guys are doing, and I look forward to reading the article.
@TACOHOG
@TACOHOG 2 жыл бұрын
@@MODERNDAYSNIPER Read the article. It's great. Concur on all. 👍
@lsj9339
@lsj9339 Жыл бұрын
0:35 what is that mount?
@stephenhritz3655
@stephenhritz3655 4 ай бұрын
There a lot different ways people are posting how to use the tripod you need to do what works for you
@MrButterpantz
@MrButterpantz 4 ай бұрын
JFC it's height not heigth. Otherwise solid instruction.
@recklessjunkie
@recklessjunkie Жыл бұрын
Why do I get the feeling he made most of this up while he went lol
@ernestoruizar4598
@ernestoruizar4598 8 ай бұрын
Hello everyone, I would like you to help me with your opinion, I am from Peru and bringing a tripod from abroad costs a lot, I brought a Sunwayfoto T3640CM with an IB65 head and the truth is a total disappointment, in the head specification it says that it supports 30 kg, but when I put my rifle on it, which with all the accessories weighs around 8 Kg, it couldn't hold it, it went backwards, I was thinking of bringing a Fatboy tripod, but it is super expensive, and this vortex is also expensive but cheaper than the Fatboy, they tell me that the vortex leveling head will hold my rifle without a problem, is that true? I wouldn't want to spend money in vain again, because there isn't much hahaha. And well the RRS is even more expensive than all of them.
@blindspotter5241
@blindspotter5241 2 жыл бұрын
Frank has a 4 year old video saying the opposite, set it lower so you can lean into the tripod a bit. Have the techniques evolved since then, difference of opinion, or maybe it depends on rifle weight/caliber? The quality of this video is ridiculous by the way, the fact that it's free is mind boggling.
@duxrusso
@duxrusso 2 жыл бұрын
Good point, but fundamentals change when you dont have someone shooting back at you. You weren't there when uncle Frank told us that? Set up is like setting up your car. Lower recoil, precision, multiple targets, no muscle fatigue, denominator. Dont knock it till you try it. Light caliber rifles dont need loading the bipod/tripod. Whats the point of the energy brunt. I think for what he's sharing with us makes sense. Try it or not, pretty kool he took the time and effort to do it....🍻😎👍
@TACOHOG
@TACOHOG 2 жыл бұрын
@@duxrusso I'd have to respectfully disagree, fundamentals of marksmanship don't change based on caliber. You mentioned the dudes banging away with 338s at 100yds in another comment, what about the guys taking an Elk at 800 yds with a 300WM? Utilizing a sling while "loading" the tripod negates the muscle fatigue. EDIT: to clarify, I mean the sling tied into a riggers belt technique, not sling wrapped around the shooters body I'm open to try anything. I don't know it all, and I will give this a shot. Part of being a student of the craft; But I can analyze the footage at the beginning, and he had some decent tripod jump in that footage. Probably not able to catch trace/splash, ideally that should be the goal. My goal with a tripod is enough RELAXED forward pressure into the tripod to keep the front leg from lifting under recoil. Not muscling, but "falling" or leaning into it, like you might lean against a wall.
@duxrusso
@duxrusso 2 жыл бұрын
@@TACOHOG I humbly agree to your reply. I gave you a thumbs up! Its hard to get in depth with some of these comments and replies while pooping. What the fact of the matter is what works for you to hit that target whatever it may be , do it, But dont criticize or name drop anyone who has success and is SHARING a point. Im definitely no novice, but i definitely ease up on loading my bypod /tripod when im shooting my 16.8lb 22rl ( top 10 match)vs my 18lb 6.5cr (top 16 match) vs my 11lb 7mm/rm. (Elk , moose). Truly thank you for your time in replying, thank you for your suggestions, ill definitely see how it works for me during my trigger time. But the comment about 300winmag for 100yard target shooters... the guys who dont hunt, armchair instructors, you know MR. War history, tachtical wearing , big gulp drinking still live with moma types. The guys who talk your ear off at the range but have clean boots. No more talk, ive Finished my poop.. Stay safe, keep shooting trigger time is key, and God bless you if thy shoot back...All the best to you Taco!! 🍻😎👍
@MODERNDAYSNIPER
@MODERNDAYSNIPER 2 жыл бұрын
Techniques have evolved since then, yes. We love Frank, we talk to Frank often, and share ideas and concepts. If you're not evolving, you're dying.
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