Did you use exactly the same source, signal cables, room location when comparing these monitors?
@davespeakmanmusic9 күн бұрын
The guys at studiocare set them up using a dangerous monitor controller. The difference was not subtle.
@erikschramm870211 күн бұрын
So great sets of mics recording a terrible drummer with no technique to self mix himself…….
@davespeakmanmusic11 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@freepyfreepy718416 күн бұрын
You need to try Abacus Electronics speakers! Even their compact 2-way models deliver a true 16 Hz with incredibly deep bass that you can genuinely hear. They have an exceptionally linear frequency response, and the drop-off only starts below 16 Hz.
@daveassender109916 күн бұрын
Excellent explanation, thanks!
@davespeakmanmusic11 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@daveassender109916 күн бұрын
Nice, thanks.
@davespeakmanmusic11 күн бұрын
Glad you found the video useful
@daveassender109916 күн бұрын
That was a better overview than SSL gave! Thanks 👍
@davespeakmanmusic11 күн бұрын
Thank you! Hoping to get some more content about the XL-Desk done soon…
@gaboonschoolofmusic984818 күн бұрын
Two Helios eq
@davespeakmanmusic11 күн бұрын
Great idea! Thanks!
@compucorder6426 күн бұрын
I like to D112 too, but also the Beta 52A for more vintage thwack. D6 for heavy styles, even Reggae, and on subby bass guitar too. I don't love the 421 on bass drum, but like it on floor tom, bass and guitar cab. RE-20 can be nice for subtle kicks, or when going to process extensively, but usually my RE-20 is dedicated to bass cab duty. Never paid much attention to the Beta 91A. But I liked how it sounded, definitely took note, has a bit of the family sound of the 52A, quite thwacky. What that sounded like to me was a drum break sampled off a dusty old funk vinyl.
@davespeakmanmusic11 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I like to use the 91A live but find it a little too shaped to use when combining with an outside kick mic and subkick.
@andthensome51228 күн бұрын
Wow the 414 sounded smoother than the U47.
@richard3542Ай бұрын
How is the general reliability of this amp?as I’ve read of several users experiencing quality issues.
@davespeakmanmusicАй бұрын
Guy sold his vibro champ ages ago so no idea. The older one is pretty flawless and very easy to service. If you want something reliable - something hand built would be better.
@AlecDeeProducerАй бұрын
I’m currently exploring gear and workflows for electronic music production and aiming to achieve a high-quality recording as the foundation for mastering. I’m planning to integrate a Virus TI2 and an MPC Studio (or possibly the MPC X) into my setup. My idea is to work primarily "in the box" using UAD, but I’m also interested in recording the outputs of my hardware gear. I’m considering routing the outputs of the Virus and MPC into an SSL Big Six, then feeding that into a UAD interface for further processing and eventual mastering. My goal is to capture a big, punchy sound with standout quality that retains the warmth and character of the analog chain. Do you think the SSL Big Six would be effective for this purpose? Would its analog summing, EQ, and preamps provide a significant improvement in the sound quality for mastering compared to going directly into the UAD? I’d appreciate any tips on optimizing this workflow or alternative suggestions for achieving this goal. Thanks in advance for your advice!
@davespeakmanmusic11 күн бұрын
I don’t have a big SiX but it looks amazing. I’m sure it would be a lot of fun!
@zebastian21Ай бұрын
I have a pair of 310s; I added the 750 sub with MA-1 and to my surprise it did phase correction, making the 310s much wider sounding and clear
@DjXCENTRiCАй бұрын
same here. Completely different speakers after this upgrade.
@michaelle67832 ай бұрын
I would like to know how what type of sound quality that the ssl six gives you after you mixed everything with the outboard gears through it? I have almost all of the expensive gears that out there and I am afraid it will diminish the sound quality of my outboard gears. I would like to know if the ssl six will give you a pristine, clean and open sound?
@davespeakmanmusicАй бұрын
The SSL SiX is really clean. Summing through it sounds great - if I get time I’ll do a video on summing and the reasons it improves the sound.
@hahaha13652 ай бұрын
14 years of squeezing with my hand. Lots of hand cramps during gigs. I can't believe it
@davespeakmanmusic2 ай бұрын
Glad the video helped
@gastonjabaly2 ай бұрын
What a horrible sounding hi hat did you used some b8 or planet z ? Lol
@davespeakmanmusic2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DALTRON6662 ай бұрын
cymbals sound terrible.
@davespeakmanmusic2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@PurpleSpiritArmor2 ай бұрын
KM184 is just incredible. The price sucks. Anyone know of an almost perfect replacer for that nice crisp yet full-bodied sound?
@davespeakmanmusic2 ай бұрын
Not really. The Oktava is pretty amazing but they’ve gone up in price a lot recently. Transducers tend to hold their value though. if you get a pair of 184s they should last you forever. If you ever need to sell them, you’ll be able to straight away.
@Mulberry20003 ай бұрын
thx
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
Glad you found the video useful
@djhlynursolvi3 ай бұрын
I am proud owner of the SSL desk and I love your content that you do with the desk. I am totally in love with the desk I really like it I’m having it full with all kinds of 500 models. Unfortunately the master section is a little bit broken now the left channel has gone a few desebils down and I can’t figure out what’s wrong with it but it’s an easy fix. I just lower the right speaker volume 😢
@davespeakmanmusicАй бұрын
Is it worth taking it to SSL in Oxford and getting them to service it?
@djhlynursolviАй бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic yeah the problem is live in Iceland
@thing___from___773 ай бұрын
A suggestion, Nekotronics Busscat 500 series as a second SSL 4k type buss comp, if you ever plan to move that master buss one out of it's slot. Nekotronics makes amazing stuff, pretty affordable too especially if you are in the UK.
@Vor-tech-studios3 ай бұрын
I own and use the 310's , I found my mixing decisions with the Neumanns are so fast, i went from many different monitors to the KH120, which led me to upgrade to the 310, I can hear the subtleties of compression and the different reverbs nice and clearly. I heard the atc's (mark 1) today, they are both amazing, the ATC's are more musical as well as being insanely accurate good speakers are awesome...!
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
Yea, the 310s are amazing!!!
@m.b.h.12663 ай бұрын
Thanks for the new video on the SSL XL Desk. I'm digging all of you videos. And, getting some insight into how you are using the console. Best,
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
Thank you. Is there anything you’d particularly like to know about the console? Happy to Make a video about it…
@elruso75243 ай бұрын
Hi! Do you favor the 1073s on drums? Or the SSL pres? I only have 73s and im curious about what to get next
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
I really like the SSL preamps for recording jazz drums. For the rocky stuff I think the 1073s add some great saturation which makes them sound finished straight away. It would be great to have 8 API pres too!
@hosedog993 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! You are one of the few producers sharing content about the XL-Desk. I plan to get the XL-Desk soon. I have been planning out the patch bay configuration. I think I might go with a combination of a few traditional TRS patch bays with the Flock Audio system for inserts and effects. I would be curious to know how you planned and setup your patch bay. There are lots of DB-25 inputs and outputs to deal with with that desk...
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
There’s a great layout in the manual of the XL-Desk which is free from SSL’s website
@MadelnMachines3 ай бұрын
Do you still strongly recommend the 310As if you don't have the budget for ATCs or did you find others in your search that were also much better than the 310As but more budget friendly than the ATC? Are the ATCs not a bit quiet and lacking bass compared to the Neumanns?
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
The Neumann’s are probably the best in that price range. The ATCs are wonderfully balanced. Not sure why I’d need them to be any louder, I try not to go over 85dB anyway.
@MadelnMachines3 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic I make house and techno so I want a more club like perspective at times. Did you try the focal trio 6 or 11? I county have cms65 and Dynaudio Bm15a (the latter are certainly loud enough to damage hearing if cranked for long periods)
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
@MadelnMachines I’ve used focal trios in a few places - they’re amazing
@MadelnMachines3 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic I’ll have to give them a try. I think studiocare Liverpool is going to be my best bet too I didn’t know it existed - Is the demo room good? I need to sort out my acoustics before buying anything else though. What kind of music do you make/mix?
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
The room at studio care is good enough to hear the differences, defo. I mostly mix jazz, blues and rock stuff but also do a bit of electronic stuff. 😀
@xandervideo14 ай бұрын
I'm sure I'm not the first to have pointed out that it's actually spelled 'cardioid.' :-)
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
Thank you. 😁
@robertsawyermusicLA4 ай бұрын
Compelling, considering the Neumanns lost a shootout against the JBL Mk3's.
@MadelnMachines3 ай бұрын
According to who?
@davespeakmanmusic3 ай бұрын
@MadelnMachines sorry, I don’t understand the question 😀
@MadelnMachines3 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic I was asking robertsawyermusic6995 about the Neumanns in a shootout with the JBL mk3s
@m.b.h.12664 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this Overview video on the SSL XL DESK. Seems like a great way to work and with 500 rack seems like a great package. I'm thinking of grabbing one for my Studio. Subscribed.
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you
@MatthewBarelick4 ай бұрын
Telefunken m60 for everything EXCEPT brushes the U87 had better pickup on the individual strands of the brush! Although this is a mono mic test and i either record in stereo or 3D Surround Sound dolby Atmos but i think in combination with the lauten tom and snare mics the m60 would work well!
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
The M60 is a great mic! Yes, I tend to use stereo overheads but it’s tricky to set up all pairs for a comparison like this. Perhaps I’ll try to give it a go. 😀
@MatthewBarelick4 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic have you ever used the Lauten snare and Tom Mics? They are side address mics that have 135 degree area around the mic literally you can put them NEXT to hi hats and crash cymbals and there's minimal bleed! They are the best sounding drum mics I've ever heard for the bass drum I use a Sennheiser e906 on a Shu inside a Lauten Ls208 at the hole pointing inside on a 45 degree angle and a Telefunken tf29 copperhead or a Lauten Eden on the outside mounted just left of center I also like a pair of Neumann TLM 107s as overheads, best combo I've found SO FAR after 38 years of drumming!
@MatthewBarelick4 ай бұрын
*Shure E901 I use e906s on amps #Seniormoment 😂
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
Yea but the 906 is really versatile too. I always forget to try it on anything but a guitar cab! They’re great on snare drum and lots of stuff. I get locked into the idea that a particular mic is for a specific application too easily! 😀😀
@MatthewBarelick4 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic Agreed but Ive found that these aforementioned mics just make the kit sound PHENOMENAL I run it into multiple API 3124s I have found that to me they work the best on drums! The mics slow the bleed down to a papercut and give a deep deep tone like the old 70s Rogers and Ludwig kits used to have in a lighter and easier carrying kit!
@ReissJerham4 ай бұрын
Nice to see you're back at it, will have to come over at some point, currently I'm in Belgium 🇧🇪
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
Thanks, Reiss. Will be good to see you. 😀
@DarrenRobertsMusic4 ай бұрын
Surely the tweeter on in inside is a personal choice, you could swap the monitors around? Or not......
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
They’re calibrated to be tweeters inward. You could swap them if that was working better in the room you’re in but it’s not how they were designed.
@DarrenRobertsMusic4 ай бұрын
Having listened to these in the Studio I can confirm they are disgusting 🤩
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
Mad isn’t it!
@nicefish104 ай бұрын
For my commercial studio the answer is ABSOLUTELY! Having the Wow factor when people come in for the first time is a big sales point. Plus the majority of patch points, CR monitoring, head phone mixing and inserts all happen on the desk and that’s waaay more fun. I edit and automate in the DAW….
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
I agree 100%
@pibroch4 ай бұрын
KM184 sounded the most like the kit was in my listening room. Had the most detail especially when the sound field was dense with different parts of the kit sounding at the same time.
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
You can’t go wrong with KM184s. That’s what I use for this type of thing.
@Coolbeans14924 ай бұрын
At around 11:15 he says u cant use the reissue with a drummer. Imo thats the speaker. If you get a more efficient speaker you can do that. Unless he means clean. If its about clean youll need at least 20-30 watts of headroom. Dirty these amps out of the box can hang but with a more efficient speaker can guarantee the volume. But headroom is different. For gigging youd need an extension cabinet with mics or just mic the front end but that depends on what sound someone is looking for. After all he said the old one was louder which comes down to the changed out speaker. Green and creambacks will be the same volume roughly. But a 10 inch alnico gold is a little louder. I know eminence makes a 10 inch speaker with around 100 db sensitivity. But i dont like eminence speakers.
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
Depends on the drummer I guess. It’s always great messing around with different speakers.
@Coolbeans14924 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic i think the one tube amp for all purposes is really a myth. Speakers is one thing but you need at least two. A small one for home use and a larger one for gigging. Luckily fender hot rods are cheap used. It’s worth while to spend more on a good amp for practice and rehearsals.
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
Yea, at least. I have 9 guitar amps and still want more! 🤣
@Coolbeans14924 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic well I’d say that’s overkill but you always need more tonal options. I’d recommend a good solid state like a jc120 as well because sometimes the pristine cleans are just what you need for things like jazz. But lab series amps are great too because you can dial in that compression and get a very tube like sound. One of the best tones I’ve heard was bb king live in japan and that was a solid state amp just before he got into lab series amps but the very slight breakup was amazing. The way i see it I’d rather have one guitar and a bunch of amps rather than one amp and a bunch of guitars. Theres nothing a strat or tele can’t do anyways.
@anidea56465 ай бұрын
Hey great video! What desk is that at the 5:48 mark?
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
It’s the SSL XL-Desk but mounted in a Buso workstation
@MatthewBarelick5 ай бұрын
DPA 4055, BEST KICK DRUM MIC EVER!
@wolfgangraab.twoday5 ай бұрын
yup.. just get a decent mic.. and it really does not matter much which you pic and no one will know. Maybe except for the Josephson which is noticeably different. But other than that. Get a better drummer that knows how to balance himself , and then just the cheapest mic here. The AT Pro37 is more than fine.
@davespeakmanmusicАй бұрын
You can get a decent recording with any mic, definitely. Shaping the sound of recordings with different microphones tends to yield better results than using lots of eq in my experience. Understanding how each mic sounds takes a lot of time and experience but I’m enjoying learning it.
@mixroomonestudioengineerin21765 ай бұрын
Yes! And Yes!
@f10italia5 ай бұрын
What effect did these panels have on your sound quality?
@davespeakmanmusic4 ай бұрын
It controls the decay time of the room and gives a tighter recording with less bleed between mics.
@compucorder645 ай бұрын
Line Audio have the CM4 now, replacing the CM3. I bought some recently from jam, in Sweden. They're really good. I really like them as a mid-way between the SDCs I like (KM184, then Oktava which had a nice vintage character, albeit some 'graininess' apparent in crash). My favourite was the cheaper of the ribbons, the versatile Beyerdynamic M160 - they kept clarity and their great on guitar amp too. Whereas the Royer sounds fantastic on driven cab, but I don't love it as much on overhead. I disliked the U87 & 414, a U47-type would be better. The Coles sounded dark, as is, but I'd imagine with EQ would sound great. AEA was really good too. Now there's the Soyuz 013, which sound awesome as the SDC option.
@jaohantan6 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to explore beyond my normal go-to overheads, and I have to say that after watching this video, in my opinion, the Milab DC-96C beats all of these mics by a landslide.
@olivermaas16 ай бұрын
Nice !❤
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
Glad you found the video useful
@ConnerOrth6 ай бұрын
Thank you sm for the pulling with your back and biceps tip
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
Glad that the video helped you!
@tangentlimited60076 ай бұрын
Can you use the mix outs to create a surround mixing 5.1 or even 7.1? you have 3 stereo and you can run 2 feeds into a sub or run one of the outposts in mono mode. - thoughts?
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
I’m not sure how you would pan things in surround. I believe some people have used the desk like that but most people mix surround in the box as I understand.
@tangentlimited60076 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic thanks - so you cannot depress mini 1 and mini 2 then add a sub by using the sub as the crosser? I know that I can send the balance to stereo pair 2 differently in the DAW... OR can I send the outputs in the DAW to channels and then use the direct outs of those channels?
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
@tangentlimited6007 don’t think there’s a way to send a separate mix to the monitor section. That monitors MIX A or whatever is AFL
@tangentlimited60076 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic Thanks I spoke to the VP of SSL and he confirmed that you can send from the DAW to individual channels and then patch those to direct outputs on the channels... you can only do it with a patchbay but you would patch your speakers accordingly. Thanks though
@nathanielbrice87256 ай бұрын
Awesome studio! Great setup. How do you like the Dynaudio’s? Are they the BM5’s? A review would be much appreciated! Cheers from Australia!
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
Thank you. To be honest I don’t use the BM5s very often (I think they’re MkIIs). I find their sound to be fairly hard and really enjoy using the Adams. I use the little mix cube far more than the Dynaudios. That might change in the future though!
@mauricioconde47236 ай бұрын
@hannahbackward6 ай бұрын
What would I need to record myself playing acoustic guitar and singing? I would imagine the clip on mic would not be ideal because it would not be an ideal mix? And, how far away would P3 have to be from me to frame shot of head to bottom of guitar? I keep thinking the dji mic is going to be limiting down the road. I think I need two more mics, one for doing video content from computer, recording, and one for recording myself playing guitar. I’m a noob to all this do please forgive me. Thanks.
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
I would record the audio (live at the same time) on to your computer for something like that with typical studio mics and then sync that to the video in post. Do you already have an audio interface? You’d probably need to be about a meter and a half away for that shot.
@hannahbackward6 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusicHi, yes! Sorry for not being more clear. Let’s say I’m at the park or beach? Would I be able to use the built in mic, the wireless dji wireless mic on a tripod or possibly buy another shotgun mic to sit upon P3? I’m thinking the clip on mic would pick up mainly the voice and not enough of guitar.
@hannahbackward6 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusicYes! It’s learn by experience. I will figure something out.
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
You can use the built in mic. If it’s windy or there is any background noise, it may be too noisy though.
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
A little field recorder like the zoom ones may be better for capturing the audio
@hosedog996 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the XL-desk content. It seems like an underrated piece of gear that doesn’t get much attention. I am curious to know how you would approach mixing EDM using the XL desk.
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
I’d approach the mix fairly similarly to most stuff. Stem the tracks out to the desk and then apply my mix bus stuff and probably parallel compression on the drums.
@MrNEWDY6 ай бұрын
Consoles are definitely not necessary but part of me gets a tad confused seeing some setups where someone has spent more than the cost of a good console just to have various products that together basically mirror a console. Monitor controller, lots of the same preamps and eqs, summing mixer with faders, it ended up being more expensive than an audient asp4816he! That being said, I still find i work significantly quicker on a mix in the analog domain but I've also managed to acquire gear in disrepair amd fixed myself so i have a lower investment. These days a few ssl controllers and you're like 90% of the way to console workflow and sound.
@davespeakmanmusic6 ай бұрын
Maybe?! If you want one, get one. If not, not. It doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of life.
@MrNEWDY6 ай бұрын
@@davespeakmanmusic oh definitely. Nice setup btw, yours looks very methodically put together and covers a lot of ground.