@@guntensplay thanks a lot! Appreciate it!

Thanks 🙏🏻

@@alekseypetrov8655 thank you!

@@harmonicseries6582 yeah, I was just wishing that I could disable it somehow while using it in an fx send loop. The kill dry switch seems to be invented for this, but has a big flaw (IMHO) But nothing is perfect and I love this pedal for what it does, so I still use it almost daily

Good question 😜 I have plans, but no budget, so not very soon. I’m thinking about the oto boum for saturation and an analogue filter after the YC61 or 707 drums. And I want to add something that does samples better than the 707. Not sure what it will be. Maybe an MPC, or a 404 or maybe something experimental like the torso ts4

Thanks man!

Thanks a bunch

Vielen Dank 🙏🏻

I still have it, so I’m probably keeping it

Many thanks!

Thank you!

I have only had the Minitaur (for this role) and over 1 year after making this video, it is still alive and kicking in the sub arena in my setup. So I think it will stay :)

Very possible. I’m not aware of who made them. These are the ones I liked the most 😎

Good to hear! Thanks! 😀

I’d like to see that to know what is going on. If you want , you can share the project file so I can check 😊

Thanks! There is one filter per track and it has a big effect on most patches. But it is linked to the first knob by default, so you don't have to assign it yourself. So I'm not 100% sure if I understand your question. If you can, share a video with what you are doing and link it in your answer.

Nothing changed. But with the dual pedal setup, I think this was their only way unless they redesigned the whole architecture (now it's probably just a lot of copy paste from the 2 bigger pedals)

Yeah, I agree it’s very versatile. Strymon clearly has found a way to make this warble warm tone that sounds good on right about anything. I use it in every jam and on every instrument ( usually one or two at the same time) Thanks 🙏🏻

Thanks a lot.

Thanks HJ! It is doing quite well for my jams, so I'm a happy camper.

Thanks man. I mainly use my midi controller (with regular keys) to play the 707. But for this review, I wanted to play the pads instead. Usually I only use the pads for drums (which is where they shine for me). And on stage, when I'm doing simple bass lines, the pads are ok. I fold the pads to a specific key and scale, so I get 2 octaves and then I'm a happy camper because this thing is super small and can deliver quite good basses. (usually I'm doing either sub bass patches or arps on stage) And regarding learning this thing, I feel all these grooveboxes have a big learning curve and if you 'fight against it', by trying to let them do things 'your' way, you will be having a hard time. I almost got rid of the 707 when I wanted it to do what I thought it should do. It was very frustrating. But after a couple of nights sleep, I decided to give it one more go, this time the other way around and let the 707 tell me how to make music on it. Starting small with simple loops and only one thing at a time (technique). My 2 main 'issues' adapting to the groovebox (coming from a DAW) were to let go of the long progressions and focus on the shorter (8 bars is still relatively long for a groovebox btw) and instead creating catchy shorter progressions that work well in a loop. I never did that, so that was a technique that I had troubles with, but it's the only way that works for me on a groovebox. And the next thing is that I had to focus on the quality of the few things that were playing, where I was used to 'just add one more layer' in the DAW, hiding the boring parts in a bunch of overlapping layers. Where I have only 8 tracks on the 707, I had to be careful what to do with them. So what ended up working very well for me is to let go of the idea of 'producing' and instead use it for jamming. But I'm not making short jams with just one loop. They are longer sessions (5-10 minutes) with various sections. Pre planned, but all created while jamming. And this is where I feel the 707 works best. You can use it like it's your private band where you are constantly switching roles while creating your jam and the other 'players' keep playing what you just punched in. I'm over 4 years into this yourney now and still discover new things often. Almost at project 100 and I think these are my best pieces of advice with any (complex) piece of gear: - Don't force your way on the groovebox when you get frustrated, but adapt and try new ways of making music 'with' it (instead of fighting it). - Keep it simple at first. One bar, one instrument, one type of sound generation etc. etc. It's so easy to get lost otherwise - Keep it fun and light. Don't try to produce a masterpiece. These boxes are instruments and meant to be played. And that is where the fun is for me. And when something is fun, you will be motivated to come back and get more experience, which will lead to more fun and better results and the loop to the top is born. It's usually not the gear, but the brain behind the knobs that is the 'hurdle'.

@@tricks-and-tips Thanks for this detailed answer. It definitely shows me one thing: that it's really important to you that you really deal with the 707 and don't turn away too quickly in frustration. I hope I get a used one in the next few days and then I'll take your tips to heart and take it slowly. It's true: you want to produce something decent right away and then you quickly get frustrated.

@@andreassonnenschein1250 No problem man. Love to share experiences here. We all learn from eachother! And very true, not just for the 707, but all complex gear that you buy :) If you get lost, let me know!

Yeah, I never use it standalone anymore when tempo is needed. Always with a midi clock source like my 707

Thnx

Now I was going to ask : what is unjust? LOL Let me know if you can pinpoint it 😁

Thanks a lot. We are over 1yr later and I'm still enjoying the Minitaur. My main gripe still stands (limited reach) but I am going to try an octave pedal someday (when I have the budget and time) to overcome that. The lack of tone shape options is somewhat compensated by adding 2 pedals to my setup. One is a cheap TubeMP Studio V3, which I overdrive like mad if I want this crunchy tone (check my last video where you can hear it in action kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKO8gXWCjdZknpY) The other one is the Deco V2, which can 'also' add a lovely stereo chorus. (and saturation) I'm not trying to convince you into buying one btw. Buy only what you need and often it's not more gear, but more time behind the knobs :) But for the 'one trick pony' part, yes it is, and yes I still use it daily.

@@tricks-and-tips Thx I'll check the new vid out. For that crunchy overdrive sometimes I'll loop in an Ibanez Tube Screamer pedal (rolled back mostly). I'll probably end up grabbing the Minitaur because it just sounds so good, and it's reassuring to know that you still held on to it all this time after questioning whether to sell it or not.

@@filmismorefun Yeah, anything that modulates the sound is a welcome addition to get more variation out of the Minitaur. But all in all, it's deep sub tones are something special and the reason why I still have it.

Thanks a ton! Yeah, I have to remind myself I don't need more gear ;P

@@tricks-and-tips That is destined to fail as we all know as synth heads, but you can try for sure hahaha. Greetings, enjoy the heat of summer right now and the music.

@@rayderrich I know. Always something new on the horizon..... Thanks, you too!

Thank you!

The Minitaur?

@@tricks-and-tips yes)

@@durmstrang.techno Yeah man. It's such a great bass synth. And now that I have the Tube MP Studio 3 and Deco V2, I can choose to add some more 'gritt' to it and get more sonic variations out of it. Especially the tube saturation of the Tube MP is absolutely lovely paired with the Minitaur. I'm overdriving it super hard here which adds this nice crunch to it and adds some compression to tame the beast a bit.

@@tricks-and-tips ahahah your are an ambassador if my gas

@@durmstrang.techno yeah. Get it all and then you will finally be able to make the music you want to make 🤪 KZbin can be quite misleading because you see other people make music and it’s easy to think that the gear is what enables them to do that. Where in reality they are both talented and have spent years working on their craft.

Thanks!!! Have a ton at fun. We will be in Sweden right after that

@@tricks-and-tips Many thanks Peter, Please let me know where you are in Sweden. Would live to see you and have a chat if you do not mind.

@@thelningwe’ll be at camping Tiveden

Thanks RDB!!!!!

Thanks a ton!

The commentary is really enjoyable. Like going on this journey with you.

Thanks man! KZbin sometimes does this indeed :)

@@CaidicusProductions Thank you!

Yeah, something special happened there. The Deco V2 can give that when you hit the sweet spot. Thanks for the reminder btw, I have to try this combo again. Usually I don't run the peak through it, because it already has nice saturation in itself, but when you push multiple instruments through the Deco, it can get either completely out of hand, or get you somewhere beautiful

@@tricks-and-tips I'm thinking about this pedal to process the output of the Digitone that plays my setup synth parts, but I guess it could be weird with all 4 parts running different instruments from sub bass to pads and rythmical bleeps and boops, all inside one single Deco... but I love its sound and tweakability

@@xdvn1290 Yeah, that can become either very good or a complete mess. I tried running everything through an Analog Heat 2 when I was testing it and it was nice but got out of hand quickly and the AH2 has this 'ploink' sound on the kick, which I did not like. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3_ZgYqEmZmnnrc In hindsight I should have kept it, but yeah, it's gone now (and gone up in price waaaaaaay too much for me) I now understand what I 'should' do with it better. I always assumed the DT has good saturation (drive) on its own, or am I wrong?

Thanks. Yeah, I tried that, but it’s not really pleasing what happens then. I have added the DecoV2 and that saturation does a good job.

Hahahaha, hold on for dear life 😂 I’m quite sure I’ll sell it whenever I have no need for it anymore. But right now I’m still enjoying it a lot. Added some pedals to the mix and recently somebody suggested adding an analog octave pedal. Which sounded like a great idea, so that might be my next one.

@@tricks-and-tips I preordered the Taurus 3 and recently bought a Minitaur just because I suspect that they are going to discontinue it. You might have been happier with the Sirin. The Minitaur might pair much better with the K2 since they are both HzV. Just get a Minimoog and be done searching haha.

@@Rhythmicons Hahahahahahahahahaha. I'll stick with the Minitaur for now :) Budget is gone.

Thank you!

Thanks! I think the Subsequent is more easy to use because it has a screen and a keyboard :) So you don't need anything else, maybe a reverb + delay pedal. For live situations I would probably never use the Minitaur because you can't see on what patch it is. (unless you add some midi device that can read out the patch number) And I would still have to drag a midi keyboard around to play it. Maybe (if size is an issue) the Sub25 is a good middle ground. Still the nice 3 oscillator bass sound, but not as heavy and big as the 37 :)

haha, mine too!!! (toes)

Thanks a lot. I have a feeling mine were too 😎

Thanks a ton man! Really appreciate the gift. Means a lot to me!

Thanks Tony. All I can say is that I am having a ton of fun in the process :)

Thanks. That is quite clever. :) Have to dig into those.

Thanks a lot, hook me up if you have questions!

@@tricks-and-tips very kind of you - thanks! :)

Thank you!!!!

Thanks a lot. Yeah, the Subsequent is a beast with very big dynamic range and I wish they had added some kind of compensation for that. The only hardware solution I can think off is a compressor. But not every compressor handles the immense frequency range very well (some are bad for bass for example), so my solution is to fix this in post. Which means I record everything multitrack into the DAW where I do my mixing, EQ and compression. I know, some would call it 'cheating', but for me the whole DAWLess idea is about the creative process. Not the production part. So I have a (digital) compressor on my Subsequent 37 track to tame it a little. It's not a 100% perfect solution , because I also use hardware FX pedals and if multiple synths are sent through one pedal, you lose the ability to compress the Subsequent 37 on its own. But it's not about 100% perfection for me, so I don't care. My final 'trick' is to use dynamic EQ in my DAW. So I make sure some tracks are pushing some frequencies down on other (group of) tracks. In my DAW template, I have 4 groups. 1. Drums 2. Bass 3. Music without bass 4. 2 + 3 combined (music without drums) So the drums signal is used to duck frequencies on group 4 and the bass signal is used to duck frequencies on group 3. This way I try to have a full sound while (hopefully) removing too much buildup in certain frequencies. It's not perfect, but works well for me and it combines the power of mixing in the DAW with the fun of creating music with hardware, so I like it like this. Hope that made sense :)

@@tricks-and-tips yes, thank you!!

@@JH-te1ct No problem. Hook me up if you have more questions!

Thank you 🙏🏻 appreciate it 😄

Thanks Rich, good to hear!

Thanks, it will come (time.....)

Thnx!

Yeah, I agree. I'm very surprised too.