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@edisonformatvv Сағат бұрын
How many gravirose on the main deck?
@leonlk Күн бұрын
amaryllis is only banned because of the ftk not because of the loop
@robinsimon4176 Күн бұрын
but the ftk is only possible thanks to the loop doing the burn dmg once isnt gonna ftk jackshit
@zarfies23 Күн бұрын
Decklist 👀
@FrozenCardGaming Күн бұрын
Check back after YCS Bologna!
@circasleep 2 күн бұрын
Why do you use Elemental HERO Grand Neos?
@FrozenCardGaming 2 күн бұрын
I used to play Grand Mole. Figured I'd keep the Grand Neos seeing as it's fitting with the archetype, same as the Divine Neos. HERO Extra deck is realistically only 7-8 cards anyway.
@ProtoentHexic 3 күн бұрын
lol
@TheSCHICKSALSHELD 3 күн бұрын
Personally, I think Lyla is much better. Rose only becomes good when she has survived a round and then only if you have her plus another planned monster at the start. Lyla can make a difference without even needing a card in her hand. I noticed if you can protect Lyla for a round (Raigeki-break and co.). Not only do you mill again, but your opponent doesn't set any spells/traps for a round.
@LilManYGO 3 күн бұрын
Love the video! I think you diagnosed the issue with the deck having consistency issues. I have always found gravirose’s maintenance cost to hold it back alot and i overall think the lightsworn monsters provide utility like popping cards along side milling. I am looking forward to see how the deck plays!
@florianbehrend4925 4 күн бұрын
Gravirose is in theory a good starter (a better one than LSW I agree) but also has been tested throughout the years and found to be not good enough. Remember the likelyhood of having another plant alongside gravirose in your starting hand (given u play 2 gravirose total + standard plants) is only 56%. so 44% of the time it is a complete blank in your hand. and it gets worse in mid game, where lyla/ryko really can put in some good work. Also Charge is just too good. Rather than kicking the engine completely, ppl need to think about when to play their lsw cards, as playing them going first is not good anymore.
@FrozenCardGaming 4 күн бұрын
Think about what does your bad hands usually look like? They tend to be filled with plant bricks with no way to utilize them, meaning gravirose pairs with the bad hands of your deck. Which is what you want it to do. In the hands were you pop off and don’t end on any plants in hand you're already winning, and the gravirose is the same as the last support cards to make the deck 40, like tomato, gale and sangan. Which are also bad in the too 10% openers. Sure you'll have a few hands where you wish the Gravirose was a Lyla, but I think the opposite is also true. Starting with Valley also gets you deeper into your deck so seeing a plant in hand for turn 2 to pair with Gravirose is far more likely.
@florianbehrend4925 4 күн бұрын
@FrozenCardGaming Bad hands can also consist of a lot of non plant hands, like tradein, equippackage too many traps etc.. in tjat case a charge/lsw or sangan is a blessing! I do like gravirose valley synergy, but again you can only play grai in 56% of the cases. And then calculate how likely it is to survive to Standby phase..
@FrozenCardGaming 3 күн бұрын
I wouldn't get too hooked on percentages, those are more so reserved for DB ladder. As tournaments are played out in a small sample size you can afford to build your deck by minimizing losses, as you likely already need to high roll some amount vs the more competent players in top cut.
@TruePartyKing 4 күн бұрын
The gravirise ultis are crazy, I’d recommend investing for the deck profile ❤
@Dradoc4 4 күн бұрын
I just got my 3 ulti Gravirose in the mail this week. I've been working on a build myself. Looking forward to the profile.
@DaC00kieM0bsta 4 күн бұрын
There was an experimental build running 3x gravirose, 3x volcanic counter in the main
@caliber0-n4z 4 күн бұрын
Met this dude at Rosemont Regional, he showed me the difference between a tenpai player and a GOOD tenpai player. Cool guy, cool list minus the expensive stuff lol
@Weizley 10 сағат бұрын
What deck were you playing?
@TruePartyKing 4 күн бұрын
I remember testing or a version of this with hedgeguard and solidarity lol
@FrozenCardGaming 4 күн бұрын
Plant GB when
@TetrixJ 4 күн бұрын
Casual max rarity deck with the KR super tokens is 🔥
@agonyium 4 күн бұрын
I love that someone is finally recognising the potential of Gravirose. It was really hard for me to understand why Botanical Lion, pretty much a vanilla beater, was being played instead of the rose that not only gets over all important atk thresholds for a normal summon, but also provides extra value for every turn the opponent fails to remove it. Looking forward to seeing your build!
@FrozenCardGaming 4 күн бұрын
I agree! The card is very slept on. Check back soon for the in-depth deck profile and some DB replays.
@claytondiego1986 4 күн бұрын
Reprint Amaryliss
@lelouchvibritannia6797 4 күн бұрын
Hopefully never,yugioh is just for ritch people
@stormfrontDP 4 күн бұрын
Nice video; what would the ratios of the cards be in the main? :)
@FrozenCardGaming 4 күн бұрын
Deck profile coming soon!
@mrmowjorisin 5 күн бұрын
This deck has got to be like 10k 😂
@jonclive666 6 күн бұрын
Well Mario has the best Tenpai deck he won the whole event so
@calciumgoodness4073 6 күн бұрын
What makes this better than others?
@traptrixs1129 6 күн бұрын
I tried this build and I like it a lot, I didn't play upstart tho, I play mst heavy and call of the haunted which I think is insane in this deck (stratos,ocean in draw phase, captain gold, cydra..)
@ToadRS 7 күн бұрын
bad deck
@hellkaiser1366 6 күн бұрын
Not for edison format
@ToadRS 6 күн бұрын
@@hellkaiser1366 literally for edison its bad. i have 10 hours playtested with this list since the actual video dropped. even the X saber discord laughs at it. its clunky draws and simply better cards to play. adding in gravekeepers does nothing but break apart a good draw and slow your play down for 0 reason.
@anthonymonsivais3053 9 күн бұрын
I’ll slap this deck
@anybodyeverybody6766 9 күн бұрын
I’m relatively new to Edison heroes: how are you summoning Gaia??
@FrozenCardGaming 9 күн бұрын
Gaia was the 15th card in the Extra deck. He can be summoned by either Mind Control/Brain Control on an opposing Goyo Guardian, or with Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo g2/3. It is a niche scenario, but it came up in the testing. There was no other card I needed for the extra deck so I felt it was worthwhile.
@anybodyeverybody6766 9 күн бұрын
@ I didn’t even think of that. Thank you!
@yaboijimbo3696 9 күн бұрын
thats a cool ass deck, I'm kinda confused why you said that you can make Gottoms with multiple tuners tho? It says 1 Tuner on the card
@FrozenCardGaming 9 күн бұрын
Yes, that is the minimum requirement of its synchro summon. As it mentions 1 Tuner and 1 or more Earth monsters, specifically not mentioning Earth non-tuner monsters like most synchros do, you can just more than 1 tuner. XX-Saber Gottoms and Visas Amritara are some of the handful of synchro monsters in Yugioh that allow multiple tuners for their synchro summons.
@yaboijimbo3696 9 күн бұрын
@@FrozenCardGaming ohh thats crazy, never realized that it doesn't say "non-tuner" earth monsters
@bathenhofen 10 күн бұрын
Is Destiny Draw too inconsistent for the deck?
@FrozenCardGaming 10 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, yes. With Malicious being at 2 and not wanting to more copies of Stratos, due to redundancy, in the form of E - Emergency Call. I wouldn't play DDraw.
@melissameyer7166 10 күн бұрын
great video, awesome deck list! :)
@FrozenCardGaming 10 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@gungnir382 11 күн бұрын
I never played XSaber myself. They really need Modern Support.
@FrozenCardGaming 10 күн бұрын
Agreed! It's one of the coolest decks from the 5DS era.
@BazedLi 11 күн бұрын
I like the concept of this deck but isnt the Gottoms Hand Loop the best play x-sabers have? I know this deck _can_ also do the loop but how often does it actually come up in this version? No sarc, no rat, only way to find cat being sangan? It seems like it's only coincidence if you are ever able to put the loop together.
@FrozenCardGaming 11 күн бұрын
Playing a couple of tutors for Cat doesn't really change much, coupled with the fact that Giant Rat is quite bad in the deck seeing as your opponent will never attack into it if they understand how recruiters work, nor can you hope to crash it because then you no longer have a battle phase for the Airbellum handrips. All that does is add to the issue of the deck which is having to see Faultrol and/or Gottoms' Emergency Call along with your initial setup. Gold Sarc isn’t good either because Sabers is bad at dealing with established fields. GK Spy pairs much better with the rest of your engine, emmersblade, fulhelmknight and airbellum. Which also paving the way for a faultroll to come down. The deck already had 6 bombs in the form of Faultrol and Gottoms' Emergency Call and Cat+Sangan, which is much easier to resolve than a recruiter, puts it up to 8 which is already plenty. There is a reason why X-Sabers struggles to do well at any major events. And it's not because its power plays aren't good enough.
@AssaultModeOn 11 күн бұрын
I'm an old school player and have been having a blast on edison, played years ago but only recently came back and loved X-sabers. Honestly Gravekeepers seems super smart in the engine i'm looking forward to play it, amazing idea, especially since it's used in other decks like rescue cat where it shines. Do you think 2 arcanite does not come up? I feel like it would compared to 2 hyunlei, especially like you said in grind games. I'm trying a gorz and a battle fader ( additional one for one target if need be ) but also a good sangan targetto get if need be if you are going to get otk'd since you should be able to summon it if my rulings is correct. Gorz I feel is just good, even with call of the haunted which I feel loses a little value without trunade. I never liked the draw traps in this deck since I feel like you run so many garnets, but I guess you don't have giant rat so I can definitely see it like you said being a good heavy storm target. And also I feel like the 3rd book is definitely needed, utilization is way tooo good in this deck thanks for the list =)
@FrozenCardGaming 11 күн бұрын
Two Arcanite has yet to come up for me, but if you think it's warrated feel free to cut the second Hyunlei for it! It is either that or the Thought Ruler Archfiend that are most cuttable, in my opinion.
@lecuong1940 11 күн бұрын
why is solem in side deck please explain to me
@FrozenCardGaming 11 күн бұрын
I go over it in the full video!
@thesaltking7355 11 күн бұрын
So show replays of it in action....other than that..neat vid.
@FrozenCardGaming 11 күн бұрын
Look in the description!
@pedrobernardos 11 күн бұрын
Not sure to understand how compulse can play around mirror force and dprison?
@FrozenCardGaming 11 күн бұрын
There is only one step where those cards can be activated, which is on attack declaration. So your opponent won't use their trap because they believe to be protected by their monster, then in battle step you compulse it back to their hand. When a replay occurs you don’t go back to attack declaration, you simpely proceed with the battle step and then enter into the damage step. At which point mf/dp can no longer be activated.
@pedrobernardos 11 күн бұрын
@FrozenCardGaming ok but if they chain dprison to me attacking their monster this strategy doesnt worm anymore
@FrozenCardGaming 10 күн бұрын
Of course not, but if you attack a stardust for example with your Airbellum they will likely not use their Dimensional Prison. Especially not if you attack a recruiter, as shown in the example in this video.
@seansupreme14 11 күн бұрын
MAX RARITY!
@giantsdudeful 11 күн бұрын
Stop the capppppp
@LinksCow1 11 күн бұрын
Bro, this deck is siiick. Also beautiful foils ❤
@FrozenCardGaming 10 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@bathenhofen 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for always showing off the foiling on the cards, I really really appreciate that. Also sick deck 👍
@FrozenCardGaming 10 күн бұрын
I'm happy to hear that! Who doesn't enjoy old school foils
@MrMirofl 11 күн бұрын
Good video! Interesting that you also play the gravekeeper package like playtest irl
@everythingyugiohpro 11 күн бұрын
Nice profile and love seeing the high rarity of each deck.
@JayceofHearts 11 күн бұрын
No saber hole?
@FrozenCardGaming 11 күн бұрын
If I open with Spy I'd rather set that turn 1, so Saber hole would conflict if I were to open Spy, an X-Saber name and the Hole. Additionally it's not very good going 2nd, where this deck already struggles. I would probably side it and also play "at one with the sword" in the main deck if I were to play a more pure version of X-Sabers. But I'm a big fan of GK Spy in the deck, taking a similar approach to how Caliber Cat was played back in 2010.
@JayceofHearts 11 күн бұрын
@FrozenCardGaming cheers for that mate, I'll join u on the spy's 👌
@peruanska4385 12 күн бұрын
The amish duelist:
@radicalsprites 13 күн бұрын
Goddamn
@natsudragneel977 14 күн бұрын
What in the 2007
@ShelfGod 14 күн бұрын
Looks like a great fun casual deck
@FrozenCardGaming 14 күн бұрын
It's a good one in the March 2010 format, known as Edison format! www.edisonformat.com
@ibra8096 14 күн бұрын
Insane to have 1st Ed ghosts of brd and afd
@kimmithy 14 күн бұрын
What a throw back deck sheeeeeeze i'm aging with each card
@playmaker5394 14 күн бұрын
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
@squarepants7748 15 күн бұрын
Stratos with only 2 targets...with the hope that both are in the deck when activated...idk
@PixelReaper 14 күн бұрын
If only it had another utility effect on top of searching...
@daltonschroh8577 15 күн бұрын
Best zombie deck. Only has 4 zombies in the main deck
@FrozenCardGaming 15 күн бұрын
I go over my choices more in-depth in my full lengh deck profile available on this channel. Also you can send plague/goblin zombie with dark grepher so there are ways to tutor them from the deck!
@MOR4PH 14 күн бұрын
@@FrozenCardGamingso is this considered anti meta