You`re sensor distortion story is complete nonsense. It has no scientific base and is at best nostalgia combined with wish full thinking, supported by cherry picked samples that really don`t show anything at all. I know your wrong because i shoot high mp sensors for at least 14 years now. And all i can say, use GOOD GLASS. High MP sensors show so much more, it makes good glass really important. High MP sensors are almost always very good at high iso and retain excepional detail when noise is reduced the right way.

I now own four 5Ds, two 6Ds and several of each model older than the 5D mark ii, I have a problem... an addiction haha. Gear acquisition syndrome is not so bad when you the gear costs sub $200 Cad per body.

Awesome video! D30 (2000) and D60 (2002) are in the same line as xxD. The same body, same prosumer line. Wikipedia has a Canon timeline template of those cameras for more details. All those babies have some eos-1 body resemblance. I have a D30, a 10D and a 50D. All bought this year. 😅

I want a eight point two megapixel Sony A7s that can film open gate.

What lens would you recommend for the 5D?

I found kind of a solution. I have two 5D classic and I love my Takumars, so I put on them a M42 to Nikon F adapter (it has an optical glass) and then nikon F to Canon EF adapter... VOILÁ!!! XD not the perfect set up but it works fine for me. Great video!

Thank you for the time putting this camera comparison together; I was positively surprised by the 20D

First Canon DSLR is EOS D30, and all Canon DSLR also used CMOS sensor since 2000, the only Canon DSLR that used CCD is the original EOS-1D. EOS 10D is the first that used DIGIC image processor, anything older than that including original 1D and 1Ds seem to use old style image processor which (to be honest) I don't really like their color that much as they look pretty timid. EOS D30 and D60 are also APS-C camera. I think the original price for 10D is around $2000 and it's a very expensive item back in the day but it's still at a lower price than A7RV at launch

I really appreciate your channel and honesty. Big fan of the channel and these classic cameras! Is this channel on instagram or fb?

Mate that just isnt true! What do you think you're doing. 😂

In modern cameras we pay for more megapixels and faster af module...for me 5d or 10d are souvenirs on furniture

Mad.

I've recently closely observed some work on a d40 with good glass that blows most recent cameras out of the water. It was in experienced hands.

For you classic Canon folks...do a websearch for Magic Lantern. You're welcome.

Thank you for the video. I have decided to pay no heed to the anarchy and disturbances created by mirrorless promotions. Just go about my hobby of creating images happily with my 1DIV, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII and 7D. Bought them all cheap exploiting the ignorance of the gear freaks. I could not have imagined affording them all within very short time had there been no chaos in the market. What a mega grand-feast!

Spot on. All the MILC pictures look plasticky or synthetic to me - never organic.

Very interesting video. I am mainly a Nikon shooter but I’m a fan of using older DSLRs. My favourite is my Nikon D3S (12MP), but I’ve tried some older Canon bodies too. I tried a 20 D belonging to a friend last year and was impressed. I currently have a 40D borrowed from that same friend, and I like that too.

In 2006 i bought the 5d and used it til 2012. My problem with the 5d was the tremendous banding, when i pushed the shadows in Lightroom. First i switched to Olympus, then to Sony - i would never go back to the 5d mk1.

I find it very hard to believe modern cameras cook the raw file to that extent and without a proper comparison i have no reason to believe your claims. Do not use adobe products or camera manufacturer software for creating a comparison, they are mysterious blackboxes that always cook the raw file before showing it to you and it is impossible to see the actual raw file, they will dynamically bias the image to make it look better and thus make for an inaccurate comparison. Instead use software that will allow you to disable almost every processing step like darktable.

There is a plethora of Sony Fanboys who love this efx, and I am going to say this. (BTW I am a cinematographer I have shot with pro-Sony cameras such as F5, Venice, FS700 etc) The sensors on the photo cameras are HORRENDOUS. The pictures look fake, the skin tones look plasticky and when it increases the ISO over 3200 it starts to paint the picture ALA Instagram filters. The reason more You tubers love the Sony's is simple, they can use the cameras without lights and push the files on Photoshop, but people had grown accustomed to filtering their skin, so Sony fits right in. The sensors in the photo cameras are not the sensors in the Cinema line. So what you are seeing is just that, the software "painting the picture" when it should be graining it if you will.

I watched multiple videos. You got me thinking on some stuff. It trully looks like modern mirrorless cameras have more sharpness, probably digitally baked in, etc. On the other hand, I am not sure if dynamic range is always geting better the lower you are, maybe in one direction, like better shadows. I have a cinema camera from Black Magic and at 1000 iso I get better skyes and more details in the white areaa, while ar 100 better details in the shadows.

I love taking wallpaper type of shoots (besides else), and I decided to go for 26MP Fujifilm X-S20. My target is to cover at least 5K screens, which would be 14,7MP if sensor had aspect 16:9 ratio. That means, at least 17.5MP are needed for 3:2 ratio sensor with width of at least 5120 pixels. I believe 5K screen will be mainstream soon. I'm already using 4K on a 27" work screen. And, 5K will probably be the (physical) limit for the level of detail, that human eye with normal vision can resolve when looking at 27" screen size from normal sitting distance. I'm glad Fujifilm didn't bump X-S20 to 40MP, because I don't and (probably) won't need that resolution, and it makes files much bigger (storage) and increases load on processor (battery life, buffer, performance, heating,...).

Hello Janos I’m very much enjoying the series and your presentations. Would be good to hear more of your image critiquing of the 5d, 10d and other early Canon sensors. As you make the point, they really are still valid and often produce more natural and organic photos for a fraction of the money. All the best to you

My main take away from this series of videos is the importance of keeping the ISO down.

WOW, nice video. The title was kinda clickbait but I learnt something, defe gonna sub

The problem is that image sensor 6 MP and display 6 MP. In displays you have three color informations (= dots) per pixel. In sensors, every pixel only receives one color information. One forth of the pixels are blue, another forth is red, and half is green. That means, all the color information gets interpolated so we get 6 MP. We basically need 4x the image sensor resolution per display resolution to get full real color information quantity-wise on our screens. In other words, we want to watch a chroma-wise perfectly sharp video on our TV device, we need video from a 8k camera. Though, it's easier to approximate luma information to the interpolated pixel number, which we grasp more clearly with our human eyes compared to chroma information. But there is still a reason why real monochrome image sensors can catch sharper pictures than color sensors. Every pixel in monochrome image sensors catches a luma information, while we have to combine several color informations to get a luma information. Luma information can be interpolated much more accurately and sharply compared to chroma information, but not at the level of a monochrome sensor. I'm sorry for being nerdy. Of course other aspects like lens and focus also heavily influences sharpness. You can also argue that a low resolution sensor makes focussing easier (you have to focus less precise) and also covers lens imperfections that are obvious at lower F numbers.

I am not saying that the A7RV is not a thousand times more practical camera than the 10D. I only present DOCUMENTED MEASURED FACTS on SENSOR DATA. If you have a beef with measured data (presented here, I did not create it!), take it up with DxO.... I just present their measurements to you, have altered none, and I think I have presented it within its implications. If you think it's a direct attack on your ego (there are many more bellicose Sony shareholders than I thought) then please do not bother with flaming comments, I will ban you from the channel unceremoniously. This channel is Shutter and CHILL.... chill, my friend! And many thanks for all the SUPERB sensible comments and observations from the awesome grown-up viewers. Thank you my friends! This video sadly attracted a lot of negative attitude, I felt it necessary to moderate a little.

Let me translate for you, what you found out: What you found out is that IF you crop 61 Mpx photo and take and crop it to 6.52 Mpx which is little over 10% of it's resolution, then it will have slightly worse color rendition than 6.52 Mpx camera without the crop. So I don't know how did you fit word "Destroys" in here xD

Because the Canon 10D's pixels are 4 times the size of the A7RV. The fact that the A7RV can provide similar performance per pixel with 4 times smaller pixels is due to the advancements we've made. You can make a comparison between the A7Siii and the 10D. There you should see the real advancements over the last 20 years.

Thankyou for not showing any pictures.

Good Info, thanks for getting so deep into it.

Staring at charts isn't going to get you anywhere. Although I've never used a 5Dc, I have used the 5Dii, and it stinks compared to more modern cameras in every regard. Even the 5Div beats it in dynamic range, color reproduction and low light performance, at least in my experience of owning these cameras. And modern mirrorless is even further beyond it.

Canon 5D is a Legend Camera, forever! I'm owner also 1Ds and 5D.

this is a very complicated subject that you can not just make generalizations about it . One of the most important things is the focusing system and camera like the D500 for SLR and Z9 for mirrorless will blow the Canon out of the water ...... there were also big issues with dynamic range being poor on the older Canon . The older Canon don't have eye focus so if you are using a wide f stop good luck nailing focus and if you miss focus on the eye forget about posting the image on line as you will be lambasted. There are other issues with older cameras such as how they reproduce magenta and purples - I can tell you - not well at all. The real test is printing images. There are issues with high iso images being noisy on old sensors . While I am not a mirrorless fanboy I can tell you the new Nikon Z f1.8 primes will blow the lens you are using out of the water. The big advantage is not the old sensor but the used large telephoto lenes that can be bought for great prices now that folks went mirrorless. There are better older cameras if you want a unique look such as the Sigma Foveon SD15 where you really are getting something unique.

No Janusz, przez ciebie żona mnie z domu wyrzuci z tymi aparatami😁

Still love 5D MKI!

What about the D30? it is only 3mp

If the EOS R has the same sensor as the 5D, then the R is the supreme EOS

Synchronicity!

Interesting video! If the 10D is equivalent to the original 5D in terms of sensor and colour rendition, what APS-C Canon camera is equivalent to the 5D MKII? I'm assuming the 50D has the 5D MKII's sensor, albeit in APS-C form? Is this correct?

As a user of the 5D classic, I agree with you the high iso (3200) is perfectly fine and retains lots of details. With modern editing software it cleans very well. I think that iso rating of 5Dc is more accurate than modern software that pretend. high iso performance beyond 3200/6400 iso. With 5Dc despite the noise, I don't have that "mushyness" of some modern sensor with fake noise reduction applied in the camera. Except for concert photography or indoor sport, the 5Dc is giving superb rendering. Also due to a weeker AA filter the sharpness is great despite the 12mp.

I have a 40D. Dreamy pics that I cant get with my M50

Great content, you seem to explain things in a way that matters. Bravo.

Let's face it to this if your not going to make large prints you don't need high megapixel! For over the last 25 years only used Canon..Canon 1DX Markll .I don't like mirrorless at all! But I picked up 2 Nikon D800E's Now I disagree with you on one thing! The D800E 36 megapixel first thing I tryed from low 100 iso to iso 2500 I'm doing the best looking 20x30 prints ever! No noise problems at all! My Canon's over iso 1600 suck! My back ground over 53 years doing professional photography and 55 years in electronic technology industry. And you right the sensor in your older Canon uses a CCD witch will give you a much better film like look!

Please do not use superglue for this, Canon has a document that describes the correct procedure for the repair and the correct glue, the document is confidential, but may be found on the net.

Take this man seriously for he is wearing a sleeveless shirt.

My first DSLR was a 6.3mp Canon 10D and the A3 prints from it were beautiful, I'm sure it could print a lot larger. Agree with your comments, the art of photography is being lost to the art of must having the latest equipment.

All this talking about photos and not a single one shown. Just a talking head.

people compare the 5d to the 40d I thought ,not the 20d. I have a 20d

All the people who praise the 5D classic never tell us how they manage to connect it to their computers: window8 won't "see" the camera, windows10 won't either... Please, what's the solution?