@@PaulGramola yes. XLs

@@BorderArcheryLTD XL limbs whith short riser that it?

@@arrowdodgerluvsmarlins1758 all depends on where you press through the grip. Tiller is a relationship of three things. The bows geometry, where you pull from, and where you push from. All three are inter related

Thanks for appreciating the humour. A lot of folks don't get it. A little sarcasm never hurt. 🤣

Yeah...I got weights above centerline for barebow changed. And I stopped the crazy rumours of max riser length at 23" and the odd wood requirements.... but im thinking a static solid strike plate might be a step too far for them LOL

People love numbers. Even if they are insignificant in difference, they still hold them as a triumphant difference. For example 99% of folks don't know the angle difference between a 68 and 70" bow, let alone the difference between 68-70 or 58-60. So pontificating the impirical difference between a super recurve and a mild super recurve or a traditional recurve or a longbow seems superfluous When ATA is abandoned, its about 1/4 of a bow length. For a 68" bow. Maybe a 1/3rd on a 60% bow for a huge hex9 vs a conventional recurve from memory.

Limb length is for draw length, riser length is more for shooting style.

@@hoosierdonkeys8073 who ever made the limbs should have done thier homework. We know our limbs.

@@russparker1647 lots of bowyers seem to find our info interesting, while it's my opinion that should have a depth of understanding that touches on this.... sorry for my reply. It seems the last 4 or 5 coments on here are from bowyers.

@@musikSkool limb construction changes efficency too, the difference in dynamic mass of a limb can be nearly 20%. The dynamic mass has nothing to do with stored energy. There are very very few genuine carbon limbs on the market, most have a glass fiber content. Real carbon laminated limbs really excel in the dynamic mass stakes. Dynamic mass doesn't just include limb materials, but also includes working limb length.

@@musikSkool the highest prototype stored energy limb we have made peaked at 1.32se/pdf. We have also achieved 2.7lbs of letoff. The 1.32 was shootable, but letoff creates a issue I don't think is solvable under the guise of a recurve. The cams need synchronised with letoff

@@musikSkool we think we could make 6lbs with our current setup, which would have a standard product DFC. And still maintain torsional stability

@@CaraVanOlogywithBecky we have several full Oly style customers who shoot CV9s. We also have customers who fully understand biomechnaics and understand that a front end loaded DFC can deliver better performance for less holding weight and less fatigue. The DFC though for heavily ingrained draw cycles takes a lot of getting used to, but doesn't mean it can't achieve. The market is also heavily dependent on sponsered shooters and retailers who have a dog in thr fight which is like swimming against the tide. So to provide product for market sectors helps customers decide which limb to choose. I'm not saying we agree fully with the market sectors we put out limbs in, customers new to us, haven't a clue what all this means. Afterall, we have had several decades of limbs getting smoother. Yet not actually producing any evidence or data to show smoother. We can and do! Most folks don't understand that part. Does that answer your question?

@@dmitryantonov2862 I never say what we use. I only state normal carbon processes. Layers of material held togther with resin, is still layers. Layers are subject to delaminations

@@peterreece6547 there are considerable performance benefits with carbon, and being cheap with the handling DOESNT pay off and price doesn't reflect your duediligance in materials handling

@@buzzhooker8398 what does that relationship establish? What would be the reason for that angle? What does deflex do? And therefor what would that angle vs default value achieve to accomplished this?

@@bahbahblacksheep9373 who did you contact?

@@kviljo we don't trust chrono results. Be it ours or yours. So how would we have faith that your results marry ours.... lets say there are chronos that run 10fps different to others. So your expectations are based on what datum speed.....

@@BorderArcheryLTD For sure! There are too many variables to compare tests from different test setups, but it would be cool to see your bows against other brands, if you've got the time to test them. I plan on doing the same, but haven't yet found the time yet.

@@kviljo would you trust a manufacturer to test 2 bows, there's against?? I don't even trust independent testers. I "broke" a tester when I said a hootereshooter doesn't test trad bows well, as you don't shoot the bow with your hand pressure dead in the throat, so tiller is off.

@@BorderArcheryLTD One could always find excuses not to trust results, but there are certainly ways of making a test pretty objective. I think it would have been interesting to see. You must have tested the speeds of your bows yourself? 😄

@@파닥파닥물고기 we don't use any glass fiber. Our limbs are not glass limbs marketed at carbon limbs. They are genuinely carbon. And carbon only comes in black. So afraid not

We deal with most countries directly, we have a dealer in France, and 2 in Germany. That's all. Send us a email [email protected] and we can answer your questions there