It's pretty obvious lady they've upgraded the crossover components 😁
@54tristin15 күн бұрын
Here’s how I break in Magnapan. I move them so they are facing each I wire then out of phase I have a old fm tuner I turn the volume up to a point where they being driven moderately hard I go to work. This usually takes about 1-2 weeks. I don’t even listen to then during this period Then I set them up normally , listening to acoustic music with human voice The difference in before and after is jaw dropping. They continue opening up for the next 6 months.
@54tristin15 күн бұрын
Music choices are abysmal at these shows
@54tristin15 күн бұрын
My SVS 3000 pro mates very well with the 0.7
@JohnLee-db9zt16 күн бұрын
I thought these speakers were around $15k. Not worth $50k. I think the design is nice, but these guys are missing the point of making speakers sound I’d like real music, not overblown subwoofers that impress teenagers. My speakers are flat down to 20 Hz but you’d never know it the extension until the music calls for it.
@54tristin18 күн бұрын
I would like to know what these cost? Magnapan has been making speakers that are affordable for decades. 50 k and they act like they are the new kid in town, who has rewritten physics. “ Grandpa?” Well fatty you have no manners.
@54tristin18 күн бұрын
This video is disgraceful. If Magnapan isn’t your choice , ok. But to stage a fight, what has this women done for audiophiles in the past 60 years?
@TheAudioBelle18 күн бұрын
I’m sorry. Have you seen any of my other videos? The majority of my videos are about Magnepan. My husband and I own 5 pairs of Magnepan speakers. Please review the other comments. You’ll see a ton of negative reactions like yours. The comments that are not negative have the true backstory behind this prank on our adopted grandpa. If you’re more interested in making assumptions than seeking out the truth, and seeing that this video is four layers deep, I can’t help you. I’ve had so many negative comments on this video and unfortunately am so tired of it that yours happens to be the one I finally decided to respond to. Who the heck are you calling a fatty in your other comment, and why are you name calling strangers on the internet? These negative comments are laughable and really shows the lack of intelligence in some of the people who watched this video. I’m just going to be real raw here. So go watch some of my other videos where Wendell follows Jeremy and me around at Axpona, or Wendell brings concept speakers to my house, or where I interview Jim Winey- the inventor of Magnepan. Or don’t, and just keep insulting people on the internet about things you don’t know nor understand.
@jeronronnunkoffunk469120 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this video, it sounded more like a little friendly competition and debate because everyone in design always operates on basic universal principles, and then their own conclusions and design philosophies to get to a certain point. I like the concept of the Diptique definitely specially, for someone that may not want to go the mile trying to match proper subwoofer with such type speakers, I personally have owned a pair of 1970s magnepans and have had the fortune of hearing later models and have Incorp them with different subwoofers outside of REL subwoofers there is another that worked very well with them and it was small KEF sub that they came out with a few years ago, but anyhow, this is all good, it is fun to watch the meeting of great minds. Great video thumbs up.
@AN-ce1nd26 күн бұрын
The future is no future. Unquestionably probably the worst speaker ever made. Unquestionably, the most pushed speakers ever made. Pure giant resistors that make sound.
@PietjePuk1812 ай бұрын
First adjust peq, relay, crossover before dirac and you can have all the base you want with a surplus of lowshelfvariation in your wanted targetcurve. In my setting the phono sound is best if handled by the dsp shd. Took a while to get this right though.
@MiguelCHUNGSANG2 ай бұрын
Some people says "ROOM CORRECTION DOESNT WORKS WITH DIPOLES". Did you make your test with your Magenepans as principal speakers? Please can you do a video showing us how to connect or integrate miniDSP in your system, and how to do measurements using Magnepan. THANKS
@rajendrabiswas2 ай бұрын
hi you look beautiful
@davidbeiler63643 ай бұрын
What amplifier was used?
@robertyoung17773 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing and talking about your set-up. The room sounds very “live” (from your video voice). That’s not a bad thing assuming that’s the sound you like. A really “dead” sounding room, filled with many objects of various sizes, shapes and texture will have a different character. I personally don’t like a “dead” acoustically treated room. I do like lots of objects of various shapes and sizes in my listening environment. Check out images of Linda Perry’s recording studio. She is known for spaces filled with objects to achieve the sound she wants.
@robertyoung17773 ай бұрын
Interesting. Somewhere along the chain from source to loudspeaker all digital signals are converted to analog because that is what a loudspeaker requires to make sound. So; It’s just a matter of where in the chain a person wants to make the change from a digital source to an analog signal for the loudspeakers.
@cobar53423 ай бұрын
This is terribly recorded and filmed
@cpodurnell37013 ай бұрын
If one wanted that Magnepan sound on the cheap, LRS Plus, add on the stands, and then Danny from GR Research LRS+ mod, two REL Tx5 subs, you are looking at $3,200.00. One heck of a speaker.
@deluxentertainment34 ай бұрын
Magnepan.
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@deluxeentertainment3, Here's the show coverage video! I've mentioned you in it. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jITPeYB7p9-UZ68 ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@deluxentertainment33 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle Saw that, thanks! Just wondering, it's absolutely true Wendell is leaving Magnepan for Diptyque audio? Seems they're in France, so I'm guessing...another fun prank?
@FVDaudio4 ай бұрын
🤔🤔
@MrJoca724 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see the new Megnapan 2.7, Borresen and Pure Audio Project speakers 🤗 Regards from Sweden
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@MrJoca72, Here's the show coverage video! I've mentioned you in it. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jITPeYB7p9-UZ68 ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@MrJoca723 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle Hi Cynthia, congratulations for the very original and entertaining Axpona coverage video 👍 You guys should consider come over to Munich in the near future and do the coverage of the World’s biggest Hifi show. And by the way, I also own a pair of Maggies 3.7 i’s 😉 I fall in love with them every single day 🤩 Regards from Sweden
@HollisAudioLabs4 ай бұрын
Hopefully you will get to hear the Magnepan 1.7i demo of the original passive vs DSP crossover in the Danville Signal room 356. Love to hear your reaction.
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@HollisAudioLabs, Heard it today. Wow is it a night a day difference. I couldn’t believe it. --Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@HollisAudioLabs4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle glad you got to hear the AB demo. Also good talking to you when we were helping integrate your OB subs with the moded 1.7i's. Have a great show!
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
Oh, it's you Richard!! Thank you for all your help that day! Yes, the active setup made a huge difference with the 1.7is at the show. It was like removing a screen that was limiting the Magnepans from showing their full potential. And the setup at my house with the OB and the 1.7is integrated with y'all's active crossover was one of the best I've heard. Jeremy and I will actually be stopping by Danville on our way through Minnesota late May. ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@HollisAudioLabs4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle yes, it is me! :) Glad to help with your setup! Have fun at Danville when you stop by!
@BJyelhsA4 ай бұрын
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Clayton Shaw Caladan speakers. Maybe Amphion too. I liked the Amphions i heard at a show here in the UK. Sadly i wont be at Axpona, as its a bit far from the UK 😂
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@BJyelhsA, Oooh the Clayton Shaw Caladan's aren't a bad price at all! Skeptical about the size of the Amphion towers, looking at a pic on their website, and how they'll perform. But I've been surprised before. Have added both to my list and will try to make it there!! ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@BJyelhsA, Here's the show coverage video! I've mentioned you in it. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jITPeYB7p9-UZ68 ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@BJyelhsA3 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle Oh wow. Thank you so much. I'm going straight to watch it now 🧡
@christophernoto4 ай бұрын
I would love to see, in as much detail as you feel is possible, the DeVore Audio room! Thank you so much for asking!
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@christophernoto, Devore's lineup looks super interesting. The micro speakers caught my attention on their site...have added their room to my list to check out and will try to make it there!! ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@christophernoto, Here's the show coverage video! I've mentioned you in it. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jITPeYB7p9-UZ68 ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@brianmoss54834 ай бұрын
Interviews
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@brianmoss5483, Anyone in particular? --Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@brianmoss54834 ай бұрын
Steve and Herb r supposed to be around.🎉
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@brianmoss5483, Great idea! I'll see if I can round them up. Anything you want me to ask them in particular? ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@brianmoss5483, Here's the show coverage video! I've mentioned you in it. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jITPeYB7p9-UZ68 ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@crapmalls4 ай бұрын
If they are there check out Focal and tell us if you like their more affordable speakers. I'm a big fan of mine
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@crapmalls, Here's the show coverage video! I've mentioned you in it. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jITPeYB7p9-UZ68 ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@crapmalls4 ай бұрын
Did you ever get your new bigger magnepans set up properly in your new house? That was a while ago
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@crapmalls, For what it was, I got it setup as best as I could in my living room. The sweet spot continues to be an issue, but I have the same issue with other speakers as well. To the left of the listening area is the weird angled wall that has a fireplace, and to the right is open space. I’d say I probably got the Maggies to about 80-90% sounding good in the room. They still face an issue with a standing wave in the room where there’s a dip (I think it was somewhere between 55-65hz if I remember right, or 60-70)…or the speaker is crossing itself out at that point. Lately for my reference speakers, I’ve been using a pair of DIY open-baffles my husband built! --Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@crapmalls4 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle oh nice!
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@crapmalls, Okay so I just learned today that my standing wave is more likely a limitation with the passive crossover. Today I heard a similar issue with the 1.7is comparing the passive and active crossover options in the Danville room. From what I learned…the dip can be corrected for. But it involves ripping out the passive crossovers and using a good active, external crossover. It was almost as if I had cataracts when listening to the passive crossover, and then had the cataracts removed when switching to the active. What a night a day difference it was! --Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@ryanschipp85134 ай бұрын
Ill be there Friday. Hope to get a pic with you Audio Belle:)
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@ryanschipp8513, Groovy! Be on the lookout for the black and pink t-shirts! 😁 --Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@ryanschipp85134 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle something tells me I'll have no problem missing them:)
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@ryanschipp8513 Here's the show coverage video! I've mentioned you in it. :) I didn't see you at the show, and mentioned in the video that we'll have to try to meet up next year if you're there! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jITPeYB7p9-UZ68 ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@ryanschipp85133 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle Hi Cynthia, Thanks for the name drop!:) Great video and what craziness regarding the car. I'll be there for sure next year. It's tradition for my friend Eric and I. Maybe we can communicate via Facebook messenger or phone. What do you think?
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@ryanschipp8513, Just messaged you on Facebook (I think that is you)! ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@WTJ34054 ай бұрын
Systems the common, everyday human can afford!!
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@WTJ3405, Okay! What price range do you have in mind? --Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@WTJ34054 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle Say under 20k all in.
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
@WTJ3405, Here's the show coverage video! I've mentioned you in it. :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jITPeYB7p9-UZ68 ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@WTJ34053 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioBelle Thank you so very much!!
@TheAudioBelle3 ай бұрын
You are most welcome. Hopefully it was helpful!!
@peterdesmidt87424 ай бұрын
I've been enjoying my SHD for a few years now.
@anandshah714 ай бұрын
What’s the bass track in the demo
@TheAudioBelle4 ай бұрын
@anandshah71, It's Hollow (16-Bit Remix) - Björk. ---Cynthia, The Audio Belle
@francohifi4 ай бұрын
Come si fa ad ascoltare musica con uno strumento così complicato, dove se casualmente sposti anche solo di poco un piccolo dettaglio, devi rimettere tutto a posto un altra volta ed è tutto molto complicato. Le complicazioni in HI-Fi non le sopporto ma ovviamente questo è il mio modo di pensare. La musica deve essere relax, non uno stress.
@RedFightingMood5 ай бұрын
Hello there... That Paul info. about the nature of digital volume control was the best 4 Me & if You ask about any advice about the channel then I would say go closer with the camera so that You are at least 50% of the picture and have a more tech surrounding, cause it is a little distracting & somewhat odd in reception, when You serve US all the tech goodies on a comfy couch nexy to the fireplace - That gets the viewer a bit sleepy and mind-wandering, so that one can miss out on the valuable details 🤗 Anyway keep on with the good stuff, perfect every bit of the videos and best wishes from the little RFM that I am Dearie 🎃
@docskeekmo5 ай бұрын
What few seam to see are the friendships and social nature of these shows among reviewers and the industry. We don’t go to see new stuff; we go to see old friends. Wendell is a legend in the audio industry. This was clearly not done to disrespect him. Consider this an opportunity to see what happens after the show doors close and those of us fortunate to be in or connected with this industry do after hours. We drink, laugh, listen and enjoy each others company around the gear, not because of the gear.
@amdenis5 ай бұрын
Actually, as a military DoD/DoE and now private sector AI developer and media engineer for decades who has created and processed petabytes of AI audio training and eval data I can tell you unequiviquolly that it is completely inaccurate to assert that orchestral sound is the most complex thing for a speaker to be able to reproduce. That is a completely fabricated statement created by a marketing team decades ago, and I so wish people would stop asserting that. First you have to establish your metrics for input and measurement. Then you have to define your data features for testing and evaluation. Then you need to define, engineer and bound your measurement criteria and chain(s). Next, you need to acquire and/or create your data source domain for the testing. Finally, you need to setup and run your test across the various speakers/monitors, environments or whatever other domain variables you may have and evaluate your results. With something that has real world considerations like music reproduction has, you should often include human subject evaluations for tracking and comparison with the empirical data and determine the correlations that may exist for practical and other purposes. (ideally double blind, etc; but regardless). Once you have done those things then you can begin to compare and contrast the resulting quantitative and qualitative information. With most speakers/monitors you will find that what matters much more includes other factors than music type, such as how the music is recorded (e.g. microphone types, placement/range, etc), the recording chain and the associated performance metrics (dynamic range, slew rate, etc), and the format recorded to, such as DSD 256+ vs 44.1kHz 16 bit PCM. For example Genesis’ Squonk at 96kHz 24 bits is actually much harder for most properly match-amplified speakers to track than virtually all symphonic. In fact, various prog rock and even close mic’d high grade singer songwriter done on well chosen and configured mic’s to DSD is often more difficult for many (especially monopole or cardioid pattern “box” speakers) than most orchestral. However, these are just some of many such examples, which you should test or read research papers on before you keep spreading this information. Generally, the type of speaker and its components substantially defines what is hardest for it to reproduce, assuming capable sound reproduction chain. Finally, if you are only able to do subjective human testing, then the most important thing to consider testing on are the musical pieces, passages and styles that you and your brain are most familiar with, since that will determine the factors and extents for your evaluation and related testing. If you listen to a lot of,symphonic and know certain pieces very well, then go for that. If it’s jazz then go for those pieces. Finally, never forget that the room is the second most critical factor of dozens, since as Wendell said, the speakers have to work with the room.
@amdenis5 ай бұрын
Wendell is right on so many levels. I have some top audiophile and military DSP systems, and I would rather only process the bass if possible, rather than the entire spectrum, since the DSP affects more than just frequency response. To me, it makes a lot more sense to dial in bass for a given speaker and room via subwoofers than having to put the entire spectrum through DSP to just fix the bass. Also, the more low frequency extension you have in a given monitor, the more you are constantly translating, vibrating and otherwise affecting the rest of the audible range.
@Vamon_Kinctuarinwhe5 ай бұрын
I don't know. I wish you the best, but it's really tough to get through content that has edits between each sentence, or even inside of a sentence. I mean it respectfully, and I hope this is taken as constructive criticism.
@thepracticalaudiophile6 ай бұрын
I'd rather have the 2.7x with an excellent pair of subs. Less than half the price.
@saardean44816 ай бұрын
The reason why you find listening with it weird is because you high likelly are used to listening using coloring devices you have tailored to your taste and this device plays exactly the way the recording was printed. The way the engineers and the musicians decided it sounds best, making these decisions in heavily acoustically treated spaces and through perfectly linear reproduction systems. With the minidsp you hear through a super clean device that ads basically nothing. This is what you are probably missing. The additions you are used to. Regarding the singer position it depends on the mix decision and basically … well on the mix decision. If you decide to pull everything to the center , there are ways to do this . If the guitar sounds aggressive it might simply be a bad mix decision or bad engineering. However adding so much color you are rebalancing -Remastering the music. The resolution of digital nowadays is infinitely higher than vinyl and you can store vinyl as an indistinguishable digital copy but you cannot cut a digital hi resolution file on vinyl without altering it gravely. Dont get me wrong i love and own vinyl cause i grew up with it but at some point one needs to realise that vinyl is reference audio quality ,,, for the 70’s . An extreme way of putting it would be “People like vinyl cause it mushes every record to a pleasant ear friendly colored happy place” But i am just a random voice on the internet
@tkyr70216 ай бұрын
If you were going for tacky, disrespectful and unprofessional, then you achieved your goal. You demonstrated incredibly poor taste and with an octogenarian at that.
@C-man5536 ай бұрын
Childish.
@staticvloid6 ай бұрын
Audiophiles enjoy crunching ice cubes. I also loved how nobody could offer an explanation for chicken fried chicken. "THAT DOESN'T HELP!" hahaha
@staticvloid6 ай бұрын
R.I.P. Jim Winey
@deluxentertainment36 ай бұрын
Yeah, I followed the advice of the late Jim Winey and bought a REL. That sub disappeared into LRS speakers immediately because it's sealed and fast. REL was even advertising that they worked well with Magnepan. So apparently, at the heart of it all, both companies seem to agree.
@robertjermantowicz-uw3iw6 ай бұрын
Gradient has been making and selling dipole woofers for decades.
@christophergaus39966 ай бұрын
I heard the prototype woofers at Texas Audio Round-up, very cool!! Worth a listen if you have the opportunity ❤
@annebokma46376 ай бұрын
Any news? Its been a year and still no product for sale
@erics97546 ай бұрын
At 50 grand they better sound better. I am sure these greedy buggers could sell for 20 grand and still make a good profit so more people could buy them. I would be impressed if they were 10 grand but 50 grand does not impress me. You really were unprofessional and he is older and wiser than you. Your smugness' did not impress me. I did not find it funny I found it childish. Wendell speakers are less than half the price some of them are 1 /10th the price so a very unfair comparison.
@Wjohnson84377 ай бұрын
What is the point? Is it to show another manufactures product can do, what yours can't. I know that wasn't the main point, but I didn't like this prank. However, you must know what competitors are doing. How do you do for less is the question?
@dougdavis89867 ай бұрын
Nobody can just lusten. Everyone has to film everything. Even old ladies.
@joppepeelen7 ай бұрын
Hmm well the altivox is not a problem with been push pull... same goes for the 20.7 etc that are push pull. its price only ! that is why not to use it ! besides that the question is do you need that field and last but not least .... a planar that moves 5 mm instead of 1 and use 5 times the surface area... 1mm would be better, and why ? well mylar does not want to move all that much when stretched. to be fair DIptique and Alitvox both nice drivers but its not the only way of doing things. making things small usually makes things worse in distortion