A comment about the dream where the woman is afraid of her husband straying .. I don’t really have any right to say this but I felt moved to say something. First of all sorry for your pain, and I sincerely hope you find peace . My reading of the dream and also how some of your dreams come true is that you might be unconsciously making them true. Imagine it is a Shakespearean tragedy. Imagine that your wound from your father leaving with a mistress means you are hyper aware and afraid of that betrayal. Therefore you see signs that are not there. You have fantasies that hurt you. And you encourage what you don’t want to happen to happen. For example maybe your partner feels distant and annoyed because he really loves you and would never betray you, but you are always looking for signs that he might betray you. How much of a tragedy would it be if you pushed him away because of your unresolved trauma around betrayal. Trust in yourself and your worth. Trust in your husband. Trust in life. I wish you many blessings

I have listened to this a couple of times and what I am taking from it is that projective identification is an invitation to take the role of a part the person does not want to (or cannot because it is in the shadow) negotiate with internally and wants to argue with in someone else so it can stay in the shadow. Recently I have been wondering what would happen in everyday life if I’d ask the other person if they would like me to take role x, y or z so they can try out a couple of # outcomes? ?

The dream seems to be very food-based. The crocodile being the obesity, the kittens being the unknowing innocence of not realizing the full effects, as the younger and thinner version of the mother still cutting vegetables. The water is outside circumstances or feeling it couldn’t have been stopped. I would imagine the obesity had a detrimental effect on the mother’s health, leading to her death. The daughter didn’t suffer the same consequences from diet, which is why she didn’t get wet despite the flooding.

The three of you are a very talented team. This is the very best explanation of introversion I’ve ever encountered!!! As I listened I said to myself, Yes, yes, yes!!! Someone understands! You are touching even the nuances deeply. Thank you for helping me understand the mysteries within.

WOW I have never clicked faster. I JUST had a huge wedding dream a couple nights ago and now this episode. Can’t wait to watch!

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i would like joseph lees voice to replace siris on my phone 😊 i truly enjoy the show and hearing from you all! sending peace from norfolk va ❤

P.S. I love your channel, and hope to join dream school soon.

Yes! "Scratch off" - as in taking a gamble.

In the dream referencing Kate Middleton, I was struck by the name "MIDDLEton" which seems to tie into some of the themes mentioned.

The conversation made me think about the decision between chasing your passion vs pleasing your parents. Choosing one will disavow the other.. do we live for ourself or others? To kill your relationship with the person who raised you or to kill your relationship with self.. any thoughts or advice?

Not a wedding dream but I had an affair dream the other night! It was with a woman who was quite a bit older. The encounters were exciting but I felt bad for her husband… 😅

This was wonderful, thank you! I was wondering about the archetypal meaning of wedding for a long time, couldn't put in words why wedding is important. But I think that this subject can be expanded a lot more.

Armoire is also two letters removed from armor.

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Psilocybin is a key and the question is, are you prepared for what it unlocks? That requires an ability to relinquish the illusion of conscious control, to allow experience to occur without attempting to impose control out of anxiety. The definition of a bad trip is the ego realizing that it is illusory and running from that awareness. (It is called ego-death for a reason.) If you are comfortable enough with the idea that ego is a construct that sits on top of the substrate of the brain and that it is not existent in the way that we often act as though it is, then - assuming that use of the drug is not contraindicated - it can be revealing and profound. The term "psychedelic" was coined in correspondence between psychiatrist Humphrey Osmond and Aldous Huxley. Osmond composed the little poem below: "To fathom hell, or soar angelic, take a pinch of psychedelic." Both doors are opened - and a few others also. From my own experience, my experience of life has been deeply enriched by the use of psilocybin. It allows an ego-less experience that brings intimate awareness of how inseparable we are from the universe and whatever the IS is that unfolds through it. It brings a joyful exuberance and it has brought some pretty dark experiences also - which in many respects were the greater teacher than the joyful - but you really have to be ok with doing a voluntary trip into the underworld of your unconscious as well as the dark mythic regions of the collective unconscious. For me, it has been an unqualified and unequalled experience of growth. While I am not one of those who see it as a silver bullet solution to what ails a person or our species, I think it is an essential tool. The problem is that modern man is so alienated from nature, and we have done and continue to project such extreme harms through that alienation, that unless we can quickly change ourselives into responsible and loving parts of natural expression, we will become an agent of unparalled destruction. The rational capacity amplifies the power that we have, and this has put us into a uniquely dangerous position. (I think of it as what happens when you give teenage boys Ferraris, and I am sure that you can imagine the consequences of that.) So, while it is not sufficient to remedy our alienation, we are at a point where healing that alienation must be done with some alacrity. Hence to my mind, for most of us, the need exceeds the risks, and from an ethical frame we have to overcome our alienation to avoid doing irreparable damage to our species and this magnificent and rare expression of a complex ecology in the vastness of our universe. (I am not so egotistical as to think that we are unique as an expression of intelligence in the universe, but I would strenuously prefer that we step up and pass this great filter that is our alienation amplified by our intelligence. Otherwise, we die, and have as our legacy a sixth mass extinction that we facilitated. I have higher expectations of my species, but we have to experience a collapse of our alienation with nature and work to become an intelligence that is wise. If we can do that, then an unparalled experience of meaning filled discovery awaits.)

Thank you, Katy

Decision fatigue! Thank for helping me put words to this stage of my life.

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I only recently discovered the term "martyr complex," but I can relate to it deeply. For a long time, I've felt as though I put my best efforts into looking out for others, only to have them turn around and dismiss or even undermine my efforts to help them find happiness. Over time, this has led me to the understanding that people are inherently flawed. Personally, I often find myself trying to be the best I can be and to help others-even at my own expense. But I still struggle with whether this is "wrong." It seems to me-and perhaps to many others who share this perspective-that being good often involves self-sacrifice. I’ve drawn this belief from my understanding of the Bible and Jesus, who sacrificed everything for the sins of others. In a way, I see myself as a "fallen angel"-someone willing to sacrifice their own happiness for the sake of others. But I've come to realize that this way of thinking is flawed. The people I try to help often seem beyond saving, and it isn't my responsibility, or anyone else's, to try to satisfy their needs. The only person who can truly help them is themselves. People only change when they’re ready to change, and there's nothing you can do if someone doesn't want to help themselves. So, I’m left wondering: Is this a flawed way of thinking, or am I just crazy?

I think many people with a martyr complex believe they deserve more recognition than they receive. In other words, they often see themselves as geniuses who aren't fully appreciated. This might be part of the issue, or perhaps they are genuinely talented but lack the mental or emotional tools to express their brilliance. There are well-known figures like Kanye West, Steve Jobs, Nikola Tesla, and others who many of us admire, and some people watching might relate to them. The key difference, however, is that these individuals were able to bring their ideas to life, while those with a martyr complex often want to be seen in a positive light but struggle so much with expression that their frustrations only build over time, creating the very problems they face.

I deeply appreciate this gentleman 's keen sensitive insights, his perspective is so rich and nuanced.

Thanks for clarifying. Your talk about Thomas More being martyred, i immediately assumed the Jungian therpist not the old english guy.

I like the open and multiple views of the dialogue in the beginning of the video. Ultimately, the journey is to be more like Jesus every day, because we are all one. my distancing or estrangement was for self preservation and self discovery. My past aggression, dismissiveness and fear based behaviour has transformed into radical acceptance of our differences. I don’t have a need for the hope for reconciliation or connection. They, showed me who they are/were … people who are not interested in analyzing their shadow side. If I am exposed to them, I will receive shrapnel of their behaviour, intended or not. why should I put my self in a Warzone? I wish them well from afar and that is good enough for me, I am not responsible for their emotions. Nobody will understand this unless you’ve experienced an ego death, family, and love and blood are not enough if you don’t feel safe and if you always feel like you have to be on guard to protect yourself. Broken can be neutral, expectations, make it personal.

When I was in college, I had an English professor who told me to put some milage on my soul before living and boy did that pay off for me.

I saw a short the other day that claimed skittles are the worst on your blood sugar vs. other candy.

This was my dream - thank you for discussing it! I rarely dream, or when I do it's often quite mundane, everyday scenarios. This was the most vivid one I've had in years. The more I replay it, the more I realise the pyramid and water likely represent my feelings in my current job, which I feel stuck. I feel the eagerness/apprehension of getting to the double doors is how I feel about the big life change - necessary but daunting. I was falling toward the outside of the pyramid, and it was a clear sunny day. My relationship is strong going into the business partnership. No major worries there.

Maybe it's "just" about being really sincerely true and honest to your self and in yourself..

When YOU make a decision...: maybe this you who thinks he/she made a decision is just a thought, an after thought, because this "decision" was already formed in the unconscious, or: the Field.

Right now pruning in the autumn 🍂 garden here 😉! Warm greetings from the Netherlands I love your podcast ❤

What does hyperpigmentation on the skin express ?

Re: 11:00 onwards- What would you say when you don't want to live with the wrong consequences? that the thought is too uncomfortable to " just pick one and live with it" ? Has the complex then gripped you in that moment

God, I love you. I am a waitress for Healthcare reasons. I am trying to research for evaluating, learn about humanitarian. Thank you for your wisdom.

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Get out of the drama triangle! You don't persecute rescue or be the constant victim. And in jumgian terms the "shadow" of repressed things shows up and clinicians will see it easily. The puer will never grow up and massive externalization with lack of accountability -i'm speaking of f60.81.

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Your conversations amaze me, your graceful articulation and flow. How do you stay so still? This one slices right through to the core.

Christian morality, like the fictional story of killing your own son to clean all your mess?

loved this episode! was a really important reminder for me during this time

Maybe the hypothetical guy who was afraid of ordering something he didn't like was concerned about the cost. If it was an expensive restaurant he was concerned about spending perhaps out of his comfort zone for something he won't enjoy and would felt like he wasted money.

Decision making brings up a lot of anxiety but i think thats actually a natural reaction to an unknown outcome. As you articulated you dont know the outcome - research helps but ultimately you see how it works out.

What about the trend of "going no contact" with one's parents over what can appear to be frivolous reasons and relatively minor grievances?

If I'm not mistaken, bonobos orgasm, and have been observed in same sex engagement for soley pleasurable purposes.

Helpful perspectives, thank you.

Like many applications of AI it seems using AI to interpret your dreams is a great way to disconnect yourself from your humanity. Having a tool to record and catalogue your dreams is a useful tool. Having that tool give you interpretations is badly misguided. Dreams aren't meant to be 'interpreted' on the level of semantics or propositions. They are meant to be experienced, just like life is meant to be lived. Talking about dreams with an analyst is definitely useful to an extent, but at a certain point the talking becomes fruitless. Your dreams may well tell you that you need to get in touch with your emotions, or you have some shadow quality that is trying to be integrated or that you have unresolved attachment issues but knowing that doesn't _change_ you. Experience changes you. That may be life experience in the real world, or dream experience in the imaginal world. That's why you do Active Imagination- to engage directly with the 'living dream'. That will shake a few things loose and change you deeply, that's for sure. Thinking (or encouraging the idea) that AI can do your dream-work for you is like having a robot to eat ice-cream on your behalf, spend time with your children, or make love to your spouse for you. I'm sure someone will invent solutions to these 'problems' soon, because hey- it's more efficient to have machines do everything right? We're so impoverished as a culture that we think that the efficiency of AI is improving our lives when it's actually making our lives more and more meaningless.

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It's fine to say we must take the consequences of our decisions, but the price of postponing a decision must also be recognized, particularly given the way ill-treatment, for example, tends to escalate over time. I have made numerous, apparently rash decisions to leave ostensibly good employment positions over the years, but having a very decisive, zero tolerance approach to suffering any kind of workplace abuse led me through various employers until I reached my present, much-improved working conditions. In effect, decisions can both shut off options (severing connections with a bad employer) *and* restore one temporarily to a state of relative freedom (choosing a new job). The talk here didn't really recognize this potential to move between these modes.

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I did study in Bologna for a year in grad school. It was a wonderful year and led me to a career as a travel writer, However, I don't know what might have happened had I spent that year in Washington.