Jung and Gnosticism: Discovering a Universe Of Whole-Making

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@hudrob Ай бұрын

So, finding that divine spark of Sophia in ourselves en masse and breaking free from the Demiurge’s prison is equal to everyone integrating their shadow/individuating and transcending the fate of our individual and collective complexes creating the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible. ❤

@BrianBlalock-w2e Ай бұрын

We tend to take happiness for granted until we experience being miserable. It makes perfect sense to me that we can’t experience love without the experience of hate.

@greencare9702 Ай бұрын

In the last year I started reading about Gnosticism and now I feel that my whole path makes sense, it was difficult for me over the years to accept my past, to manage my suffering, but reading about this philosophy brought me relief and I feel more at peace. A few months after I started to explore the Gnostic system, I had the snake bite dream, it was like I was in my garden and I bent down to pick an apple or a flower, and a snake bit my wrist, without any warning or trace of hesitation. I am delighted that you mentioned the dreams of the Jungian members with the snake bite Joseph, an interesting episode, I hope you will have more on this topic in the future.💚💚💚

@entropy2644 Ай бұрын

Best show yet. Wow

@xyz-bj8zv Ай бұрын

Ayahuasca is also known as the boa, and it is common when drinking ayahuasca, as it comes on to get a vision of a snake devouring you or coming at you.

@lisawanderess 24 күн бұрын

Great topic! I got so much out of this one thank you so much. I especially love the analysis of the snake, having been very drawn to snakes and having kept them as pets since I was young I've never related to the morbid fear they seem to induce in others but it all made so much sense after hearing you discuss this. And yes, I did get "nipped" once by my favourite snake, but I still loved that snake 😂 The more I learn about Jung and the ancient wisdom he delved into, the more everything I've felt in my life makes more and more sense. I can't get enough of his learnings and your podcast is my absolute favourite. And like the dreamer in the discussion. I, too, have been grappling between my rural preferences to my current urban situation, so I consulted the I Ching and got a very similar response from my reading that made me feel more reassured about my position.

@Pneumanon Ай бұрын

Great topic and exploration. One of the many fascinating things about the Gnostic & Neoplatonist cosmologies at the present time is that independent hypotheses are starting to emerge from different starting points within the scientific world that seem to be in line with the ideas these cosmologies present about the nature of reality. Or to look at it a different way, perhaps space is opening up in the discourse for those hypotheses to start being heard again after a few hundred years of increasingly strict scientific materialism. In either case, people seem to be opening up to the idea that there is a reality beyond the material world. Not only that, but there seems to be a growing sense that the we can already access this 'higher' reality in some way and to some degree with the human mind, where the word 'mind' is taken to mean mind/body or even psyche/soul. Of course the spiritual/ religious traditions have known this for millennia, and Jung obviously saw it too, but it will be very interesting to see what happens if these ideas become more widely accepted within the scientific community. Perhaps the spiritual/scientific syzygy will be restored and the culture will be redeemed?

@megankwisdom 27 күн бұрын

Just preordered the dream wise audiobook!

@Runemaster293 Ай бұрын

Excellent Thank You both! -Yum, from Intention to Form in alignment with Source and God.

@detodounpoco37 Ай бұрын

Thank you! Wonderful reflections. The Gnostic path offers beautiful understanding to integrate

@Liyah-encyclopedia333 Ай бұрын

My god I really love this episode brimming with so many insights ❤

@marijagrgurevic8044 Ай бұрын

That is the best summary of gnostic cosmology, thank.u!

@solques4021 Ай бұрын

Thank goodness you exist 🎉

@adamswierczynski Ай бұрын

This is some serious mental gymnastics to suggest that trying to know the Ein Sof without going through the only begotten son causes delusion and a warped world. If Greek mythology is needed to complete the understanding of christian faith, it just further proves that christianity is a Greek perversion of Hebraic faith. The teaching that original sin makes the human soul inherently evil IS the fundamental teaching of a demiurge that seeks to be the sole intercessor between human and the divine. The tree of life shows the path of creation to be an oscillation of opposites on the way down from Keter to Malkuth. Polarity is a fundamental principle of existence. The tree of knowledge of good AND evil imbued humans with the yetzer ha-tov AND yetzer ha-ra. It is equally satisfying to do good and evil. Because of the metacognitive capacity of humans (what sets us apart from the lower 3 iterations of the tree of life - mineral, plant, and animal) we have the ability to ascribe meaning to our desires and add a layer of satisfaction or aversion to our choices. Much like in buddhism, suffering is the layer of pain derived from the meaning we give our pain, we can also feel great pleasure in egosyntonic choices that affirm our sense of morality. When christianity asserted dominance - declared that something or someone could only be of God or of the perverted reinterpretation of satan - humans turned their back on the creator of all that is known and unknown for a relatable anthropomorphic representation named jesus. The Hebraic traditions teach that all events are of the divine, that it is merely human perception that lends to the affinities of 'good' or 'evil'. Again, with the need to make these ideas relatable, christianity lends itself to a toddlers level of moral development, if it feels bad it is bad. So when a christian has an egodystonic thought or desire, their infantalized morality leads to them blaming the devil for tempting them, instead of accepting that these thoughts and desires arose from withing an indicate a need for reflection and development. As a result of the infantalized morality and need to anthropomorphize Hegelian ideals, christianity gave birth to satanism and devil worship. Hebraic tradition taught that there was worship of God or idolatry (idolatry being a delusion born of ascribing divine power to that which has none), and that a person could be in line with their yetzer ha-tov or yetzer ha-ra. The locus of morality was internalized much the way indigenous teachings say there are two wolves inside of humans, one good and one bad, and the one that wins is the one you feed. So when Hebraic tradition was abandoned for christian tradition, an external locus of morality was born. The idea that your actions feed one of two deities external to oneself in a cosmic spiritual war lent itself to the worship of evil for evil's sake. When morality has an internal locus, it is far easier to make choices that affect the immediate reality one faces for the benefit of the self and other. When morality has an external locus, it is far easier to adopt a teleological model of choice-making so long as the action can later be justified as being in the service of this fictionalized cosmic spiritual war. So if christianity must be amended with the retroactive continuity afforded by gnosticism, the problem is the infantile morality of christianity and the stunted development caused by externalizing and anthropomorphizing Hegelian ideals.

@crushinnihilism Ай бұрын

You have it backwards. The hebrew (and therefore Christianity) is a perversion of a Greek faith, Platonism in particular.

@kingoflimericks Ай бұрын

Confronting profound consternation The positive faces negation But for unions that matter Illusions must shatter To welcome the reintegration

@hn6187 Ай бұрын

Excellent. Difficult topic described eloquently and with aplomb. Syzygy and spark perhaps conjure limited images if we are wondering what contemporary versions of Gnostic cosmologies might be. Perhaps it is interesting to talk about continual unfolding of geometric progression ( point, line, polygons, circle, sphere, node, node node relation sheet through topological forms) of mind of self into unfolding of mind of existence where we use mythic concepts of nothingness oneness allness aka pleroma. And all of this tincture with an idea we want to understand / for individuation

@consideredwhisper Ай бұрын

Your channel is so appreciated: thank you.

@TheInfiniteCorner Ай бұрын

The dreamer seems to have unconscious unresolved feelings around her inability to protect her children, while at the same time not being able to let go of those feelings.

@Liatlordofthedungeon Ай бұрын

Great episode! Thank you! I’ve always suspected that Jung was a Gnostic ever since I saw an interview where he claims to “know” that God exists. How do you interpret his statement? Personally, I have a theory that, for Jung, God equals the subconscious plus the transcendent function.

@DanitaSpeaks Ай бұрын

I think the babies represent not only the maternal link to her sons but also her own vision & desires for herself. She struggles to keep them safe from drowning and being lost while she tries to maintain a balance that they are alternately "struggling" against themselves. The seat belts are tied but that isn't a natural function of seat belts. Seat belts are buckled not tied so who "tied" these belts together. I would say she did. Maybe a subconscious restriction of her own unmet and unfulfilled future.