Yes thank you! For a 4x4 this one runs pretty strong. I love running over everything in my way! LOL

I'm sorry to hear about your injury. That doesn't sound like a fun one. Out of the three quads in my arsenal the Banshee is still my favorite. Thank you so much for watching!

First thank you for the question. As you probably already know there isn't much information on the 650 yet an overwhelming amount on the 1000. I purchased the 650 with the intent to extend my riding season and visit riding locations not really suitable for traditional sport quads. If you've watched any of my other videos my primary machines are the Yamaha Banshee and the Yamaha YFZ450R. With that said I'm constantly trying to ride the Renegade as if it were the same but its not. I'll lay out my honest opinion though as you've asked focusing on the 650 itself. This machine is well built in my opinion and built better than Polaris machines. The 650 and the 1000 share the same frame and differentials. The 650 has no power steering and I'm fine with that. There is zero storage so you will need to either purchase a rear rack and a box or just wear a backpack. The transmission linkage setup is a negative as you have to rock the quad back and forth to shift it. This design has only recently been fixed in the Gen3 500 and 700 series machines. Its not a deal breaker and you get used to it. The stock brake pads are soft and don't last so get a set of aftermarket ones ASAP. The seat is comfortable and is good for all day riding. These machines are very thick in the middle and is like riding a horse in some ways. I think the taller you are the better. If this is your first ATV and you have a lot of mud and rocks in your area you will love it. Ton's of ground clearance and good power to go anywhere. Now here is where I myself stand with 4x4's in general. 4x4's are heavy! They are twice the weight of a sport quad. They fall into everything because its impossible to keep the front end light enough. 4x4's are top heavy. You sit on them not in them if that makes sense. This thing has almost thrown me off a few times because I'm pushing it. Practice and seat time will fix this issue to know the limits. At the time this video was filmed my Renegade has a lot of money poured into it to make it faster and ride better than stock. Here is a quick outline on what I've done. QSC Rev-X Primary Clutch PowerVision3 ECU programmer with custom race mapping. FOX QS3 Shocks from the 1000XXC Performance Exhaust system HMF Front Bumper 1.5" Wheel Spacers KMK Full Poly Skid plates In conclusion and at the end of the day, this machine is able to take me to places I wouldn't dare take my sport quads in to. 4x4's are extremely capable of taking on the worst terrain and conditions out there and that is fun in itself!

@ where do i go for the after market brakes and where did you get the spacers at?

@@alanski420 kgpowersportstuff.com/products/superatv-can-am-atv-utv-wheel-spacers?variant=31633390338092 For the brake pads you may not see 2025 in anyone's parts finder yet but the brake calipers are the same as the 2023 model. www.race-driven.com/brake-pads-fit-can-am-renegade-650-2023-front-and-rear-by-race-driven/

I'm 52 and plan to ride it to the end! Remember 60 is the new 50 so the time is now my friend! Thanks for watching!

What kind of lawnmower have you been using son because I want one!

You're not the first person to say that. The issue with this trail system is it has two way traffic. If you drift and someone is right around the corner it could be catastrophic. Every year I see too many life flights landing.and 90% of them end in the worst possible way unfortunately. There are tons of UTV's out here now and not mention little kids on 50's. A head on with either one is the risk we already take. With that said we have a responsibility to dial it back and save the drifting for closed coarse and single track areas. I really appreciate you watching and please, please be safe out there....

H'eeeeeerrrreeee... LOL

Yes it's black grip type tape I had left over from my YFZ450. This machine was way to white so I just added some black accents. I can't decide on a graphics package for the life of me. I like a cleaner look without a ton of manufacturer names. I always feel like they should be paying me to advertise for them and not the other way around.

@@350iroc9 I totally agree, I love the stock and clean look. All the graphics are to loud and blurry. I took off all my warning stickers and put the OEM XMR black bumper on mine and it looks mean….

I think you made a good choice going with the XMR bumper! It really is a good looking piece of hardware! I ended up with the HMF bumper as it was included when purchasing the exhaust during the black Friday special.

@@350iroc9 ah nice… I just can’t do any type of aftermarket exhaust because of where we ride and I like to be as quiet as possible . Yeah XMR bumper looks great on xxc, however I had to order the front fascia and front skid plate for a XMR as well in order for it to have work. Because the stock front skid plate has to come off as well…. I got a carbon black seat cover on mine, with 1000r on the sides and JAWS stitched on the back top made by HiddenComfortCamo, It looks great. Just also got my Powervison 4 and a stage 1 tune from RVS performance as well. Can’t wait to try it out.

I didn't realize you had to swap out the front fascia to use the XMR bumper. The Can-am parts configurator doesn't tell the whole story unfortunately. I do enjoy the Powervision! I have a custom tune from BNR motorsports and it really woke the motor up not to mention its running cool and crisp now. By far though the best upgrade so far is the BNR custom tuned FOX podium 1.5 shocks. They are night and day from the stockers and provide a smooth compliant ride.

Thank you Mr Spencer!

i race mountainbikes when we race we wear spandex when we trail ride we dont those look like gravel bikers in the video but its not weird to wear spandex let them be

These all were road bikes that you would see on the parkway. Smooth tires without tread. I'm a product of the 80's but even then I didn't wear spandex. LOL

@@350iroc9 very strange they mustve felt adventurous that day

Its can be dangerous back here. I just wouldn't want to hit someone on a regular bike as it wouldn't fair well for anyone.

@@350iroc9 i love how all these commenters are acting like its normal to wear spandex while riding on a dirt trail.

I hope so, Its dangerous back here at times.

I'm just glad the one guy warned me. It can be dangerous back here at times.

Yeah, what was the problem tho?

I'm not sure I ever said there was an actual "problem" did I? I'm simply showcasing my adventures and the things I come across. The shirt's this team was wearing said "Team Vegan" on them. I've never seen road bikes in the woods before. I really hope that answers your question and can't thank you enough for watching.

@@350iroc9 oh god i thought you were making a joke lmfao i didnt realize that they literally call themselves that HAHA

Do you think he would let you become the new steward of it since its just rotting away or does he have plans to revive it? Barn find machines are in high demand especially a complete motor if nothing else.

@@350iroc9 no, probably not. He’s had it since before I was born. Haven’t talked to him in several years either.

Well the Warrior is a good platform and if cared for will last many years to enjoy.

@@350iroc9 Oh, for sure. It's actually a 1987 Warrior lol I don't think it will quit anytime soon. I bet I could go put a battery and some new gas in and it would start.

So many people come up to me and say the same thing and kick themselves for not keeping their old Banshee. ATV's now are like the current auto market. They are all either white, grey or green and they all look the same. Thanks for watching I really appreciate it!

This was filmed inside the Wayne National Forest in southern Ohio. Thanks for watching!

I use stock gearing. I don't know the HP as I never had it on a dyno. When I filmed this video my main was a bit thin so I was just being careful with it. I've smoked a motor before and just don't want to go through that right now. LOL Thanks for watching!

These type of locking nuts don't need a ton of torque so I just use a C-Clamp on the flat spots to tighten it. If yours is still shinny new just put a couple of wraps of electrical tape around it for protection. The C-Clamp way has a second benefit regarding the 5mm set bolt. I like to first pinch everything together then install the set bolt with loc-tight. This also lowers the chanced of snapping the set bolt (been there done that twice!) Its hardly worth buying a wrench big enough to work on a Steam Engine as this method works and is probably already in your tool box. Best of luck and thanks for watching and comment!

One mans trash is another mans treasure! Thanks for watching!

I wish I could tell you but I was on tour following my buddy in the Razor. He lives down there and knows the trail system well.

As I think about it some more, the creek in the video is the same creek that flows in front of the Outlaw bar. When you pull out of the bar take a left on the trail/road and you can enter the creek about a mile down. facebook.com/OutlawBarAndGrillWV/

No not at all. The Banshee was never used for racing due to its weight of 400 LBS. Its main purpose was to rule the desert and sand dunes. The machine of choice during this era for racing was the Honda 250R.

Closest thing in the distance past was the first generation Polaris Scramblers. Big bore 2 stroke 4x4's. I do have to admit the 4x4's are super capable but with that comes twice the weight. Anytime I drive my Renegade I have to remind myself that it's 800lbs and not nearly as agile as my sport quads are. Thanks for watching and thank you for the comment!

Thank you sir! Very kind of you. All the best....

I guess it depends on what school your from. I can't say I agree with you that they "suck" in the woods but are more challenging than modern 4-strokes. Secondly I will take a manual clutch over a CVT belt system any day. I for sure about this as I have both types. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!

It really is super fun to ride! Its even more fun with all of the parts I install over the years. With that said my YFZ450r is definitely more refined and never temperamental to the conditions like the banshee. On the other hand the banshee is simple and the 450 complex. The 450 gets no attention and the Banshee get's it all! Thanks for watching!

That wire is designed to be a brake light switch. You can simply leave it disconnected or remove the switch itself.

Unfortunately I can't say for sure as I'm not familiar with the 660 setup. Does the 660 use a single piston brake caliper?

So I looked it up. The stock Raptor 660 caliper is the same caliper as a stock Banshee caliper. That means this upgrade will work for you also!

BIG 3 means - Intake , exhaust and a fuel management system upgrade. These 3 things alone will unlock your quads true potential as the factory intended. Because of EPA restrictions these quads are sent out in kitten mode but can be turned into a lion with the BIG 3!

@@350iroc9 I’m going to do these upgrades before I build the motor thanks a lot

Yes Wayne National Forest!

Yes I have the stock ITP Holeshot tires still on there. They are really good in the mud and super good on the street.

LOL I'm sure! Where did all that infrastructure money go? I actually just got back from this same ride location and currently it's a mess. When this video was filmed it was the best it's ever been there. They claim there is no funding to fix the trails this year. Thanks for watching!

This is the Pocahontas Trail System. Here is a link to it: trailsheaven.com/plan-your-trip/choose-a-trail/pocahontas/

So how did she run?

I was able to get to 76 MPH and ran out of room.

And also how does it handle in glamis? Especially me being a big dude im heavy set you think the banshee could pull me around or should i go with the 450

If you are heavy set then 450 all day is the best option. The Banshee in Glamis really has to work with a big fella piloting it. They will boil easily with aggressive sand paddles. The 450 is so much easier to ride in the dunes and gets twice the gas mileage. I've had zero issues in my 65 hours of operation with the 450. In fact the only reason I have it is because I burned up my Banshee's electrical system in Glamis because it got too hot. If you have never owned a Banshee before then just skip it honestly. They are way too expensive now. Spend your time riding and not working on it all the time is my recommendation. You won't be disappointed with a 450. I also think the 450 is a better quad than the Raptor if you were considering it.

So what did you end up with?

@@350iroc9 thanks again brotha for reaching back out! I went with the 450 how you recommended and i don’t regret it at all brotha i love it so much. I put the HMF full exhaust, fuel customs intake, & the power commander 5 tune, AIS delete, new oil breather, & i take it friday to have it dyno tuned on the machine and she will be dialed in! She is a beast man handles really well with me being a heavy dude.

@@ghammababy3992 Wow that is awesome and you are doing it the right way! With everything you mentioned you will have unleashed the full potential of the 450 and have it dialed in for a happy healthy life! My last recommendations as an FYI is to keep an eye on that FCI intake where it clamps to the throttle body. If you installed it yourself then you already know that there is not much room for that boot to bite onto it. That clamp is known to get loose after several heat cycles so re-torque it from time to time. Its so tight in there and hard to see as you probably already know. Next is battery care. For whatever reason my Vortex ECU will drain my battery if it sits to long. I don't know about the power commander but I've made it a practice to disconnect the negative battery cable after every trip so that doesn't happen anymore. I'm positive you made the right choice! Don't get me wrong I love my Banshee but will also admit I suffered for years trying different combinations of parts and settings before finally getting it right. Again congratulations and wishing you safe smiles for miles!

Thank you Mr. Roberts!

It is relaxing and smooth

I remember a time you couldn't give them away! These quads were about 6K new 30 Years ago.