Thanks Paul!

No, never heard of it. Unless there was a starting point, would be pretty hard to find anything. Thanks Man!

Probably the one in the Soo, ON. Thanks Man!

Thanks Glenn!

That would be cool for sure but it would cost a ton of money just to get her off the dock and tow her out there. Scrapping her in place is pretty cheap, it's the moving of her or parts to other locations that is the big cost. I personally don't think they could even get her off that dock. Getting a big enough crane down there to lift 300 tons would be a monumental task and I don't think that dock would even support a crane that big with 300 tons on it's hook LOL! It's old with holes in the concrete sitting on old wooden pilings. But it would be nice to be able to dive on her. Thanks Man!

Thanks Larry! Glad you found it interesting.

Yes, Abitibi was huge at one time. They along with Great Lakes Paper Co., did the majority of logging in this area at one time. Thanks Fred!

It's not all City Counsel, it starts with bad management and people that keep their jobs no matter how many times they screw up and cost the tax payers money. After they screw up then they pass the buck to Counsel who looks bad with their final decision LOL! Thanks Man!

Thanks Man!

Haven't seen that channel, have to look it up...that's about it for train history LOL! Thanks!

@@OutdoorRob meant this guy kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXTQaH6tpMulaqcsi=_2x2nXCLC0i9mEeB. @padwrr •

Ah yes, he's my inspiration for doing these...I have nothing on his in depth videos.

Interesting, thanks Michael!

Not a sawmill, the first pulp mill at the lakehead.

Thanks Michael! Wish I had been more interested in History back then. Don't think I ever visited that area when everything was in operation.

@ I grew up in Current River. Used to ride the electric trolly bus down Grenville Hill and you could see the water spouts out of the old penstocks shooting up into the air, walked along them a couple of times too. My father worked at the Abitibi Provincial mill and had an uncle who worked at the shipyards back in the day. We fished for stolen bikes off the dam as well, lol. Back in the day when Lakeshore Drive was the highway

Very cool story, thanks!

@@michaeldixon908 the current river dam didn’t actually fail during the disaster, but it was damaged.

@@michaeldixon908 Small world, my father grew up in Current River too and my grandfather worked at Provincial Paper after coming out of the logging camps.

Took a couple of days to do it, was fun exploring and learning about the area there. Thanks Vance!

Ya, that was after Abitibi sold all their stuff, same spot where the Abitibi office and dock was. Thanks!

@ ok. I thought so. I remember even by then that dock was rotten. Thanks.

Saskatchewan Pool 6 site. Demolished in 1980? something

@ ok. Thanks.

Here's the Implossion of that elevator from 2000. Thanks! kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHm6lKOrZcx1btk

@ I remember that now. It was the one that blew up ay?

@@michaeldixon908 late nineties, I remember as a kid seeing the outer silos ripped half-open before they decided to dynamite the whole thing.

Thanks Doug! There's some cool history on this area.

@@OutdoorRob I spent 4 years in T-Bay for school and made several trips there for work over the years afterward. I have always been a little curious about the current river dam. Nice to get a bit of back story.

Nice, thanks!

Thanks Marc! Appreciate that very much!

Thanks Marc!

it was indeed completed. What part looks incomplete?

@dmxsterryk The far side of the dam where the fish ladder still is, that section still looks incomplete, have a nice night.

@ it is 100% complete, trust me on that lol.

@@dmxsterryk Understood, have a good night and weekend.

Thanks Marc! Some people actually learn shit tuning in here LOL! Glad you enjoyed the vid.

Thanks Man! I didn't even realize what it was when I first saw it years ago, had to look it up LOL!

Thank You! Hope you don't loose the Master, still have to get out there and see it.

Ya, she's a little scuffed up...Thanks Man!

100' in height

Thanks Man! So true!

Very true, not sure why that was never thought of. Maybe they figured since it was mounted to the dock with steel brackets that it wouldn't need one? It is sad for sure. Thanks Thomas!

But the City said they checked it the night before it sunk and it was just fine! lol They blamed the sinking at a city council meeting two days later on the fact that "it got warm and it rained". Yikes!

LOL! Thanks Bob!

Thank You, glad you enjoyed the vid!

I think some people lived on it...unofficially at one time, made a huge mess in there. Maybe sinking it in the river was a way to clean it up LOL! Too much upkeep at this point, she's done for. Thanks Kevin!

Nice to keep the old tugs alive, great job. Thanks!

It was scuttled without the machinery as far as I know. I've only seen one boat out there that still has the machinery in her that had been scuttled. Thanks!

You had a photo of her beached at Island B? That would be cool, too bad you can't find it. Only photos I've seen of her is docked alongside the abandoned Mary Ann near the CNR Station. That one was spelled with a "C". Would be cool to see if they're the same boat. Thanks Randy! If you find that photo, please PM me on Facebook.

was told that they had some sort of mechanical break down late in the fall and had no choice but to leave it there for the winter. Some little bastards came over during the winter and burnt it. That was the name written on the back of the photo. the spelling may not be correct though.

Wow, thanks for the info, very cool.

Do you remember what year that was when it was beached? Thanks

@@OutdoorRob I don't know, but based on the print, I would think late 20's, early 30's. earlier than that the print would of been a larger format I believe.

Yep, effort gone to waste by incompetent management. Thanks Man!

@@OutdoorRob Yep, and Corey still has his job! Unbelievable!

Yep, it is unbelievable...

Very sad indeed, Thanks Tony!

This one is up by Fort Frances, ON. If you want a closer one go up Boreal road to about 21km, small road on left, turns into a trail about 5kms or so atv, walk or whatever to the tower.

Cool! Have You checked out the Russel Brother Facebook page or the website? Thanks!

It has some issues for sure. Thanks Man!

Thanks Man!

Costs lots of money to get coverage nowadays, back then I think it was a little easier.

@@OutdoorRob its 2025 we know that i live in the state of ma if you have any info on who to call for cost please reply back thank you

Sorry, don't know who you would call for that...good luck.

Major costs involved in getting it off the dock and towing it out there. City just wants it gone now after all their neglect and failure with it. Would be nice to be able to dive on it though...Thanks!

Very true, thanks Vance!

Yep, once gone, they're gone. Thanks Man!

Thanks Fred! There's one City build boat that's been on display in British Columbia for years. Someday I'll get out there again and see how a real City treats historic boats. There's actually two City build boats there, one being the tug.

@OutdoorRob If you get to Columbia River Maritime Museum in Astoria OR, they have the Columbia lightship.

Nice, thanks!

Thanks Michael!

Interesting, thanks Man!

Ya, that's another disgrace...

I completely agree with you Rob, more taxpayer dollars simply being wasted and history being tarnished forever.

Odd that you mention the former FLT and Hoito Restaurant in the basement. For 20 some years I delivered new Japanese imported cars that came off the ships in Vancouver to the dealerships in Thunder Bay. I moved on to other jobs in 2007. I was just in attendance at a funeral in T Bay last week. Though I had only once had the pleasure of eating at the Hoito on one occasion, it was a great place to have an old fashioned home style meal. I’ve never forgotten it, and as I was leaving the neighbourhood last week, the place came to memory. Though I’ve always lived south near TO I have a small connection to the Whalen as I may have stated previously Rob. I used to be a member of the Toronto Marine Historical Society, and Capt Gerry Ouderkirk ( spell ) a major contributor to the society donated a rather large Marconi shortwave marine radio that I dropped off at the tug on one of my many westbound trips to B.C. That was in the early days of the restoration just prior to opening the tug to the public. Having owned a tug with a long history to Thunder Bay, the Glen G. for about 20 years, I’m well aware of the costs associated with the upkeep involved. As tugs go, the JW wasn’t a good looking boat in my opinion, but one must remember that a tug is like a pipe wrench, it’s their to do a tough job. Tugs wear out, and that’s the cycle of their life. The only way to preserve it is to make a dive attraction, as an alternative to putting the torch to it. One final voyage ?

Thanks George! I met Capt. Ouderkirk a few times, great guy. I wish they could at least make a dive site out of her but the costs would be too much to get her off the dock and tow her out there.

@ Thanks Rob and George for your stories, until next time on your two YT channels Rob, have a nice Sunday.

Thanks Marc! Glad you found it informative.

@@OutdoorRob Indeed I did Rob, and thanks again for sharing this.

Agree with you, thank You!

I thought the $ 90,000 EV F150's where useless in cold, nor could they pull anything very far?

That's true but they only use them to drive around town a little, so should save the 90,000 in gas very shortly LOL!

I did a beach clean up, about 1 mile of sand and we got at 2000lb of trash. A lot of plastic and gishing nets.

Wow, lotta crap! Thanks Fred!

@@OutdoorRob Fishing. Sometimes the ocean kicks up a lot of stuff.

Don't know of any but I'm sure there has been divers there and most other places over the years. Thanks Marc!

Thanks Marc! Started diving in 1991 but stopped in 2003, just got back into it about 3 years ago now. I've only actually found a few small vessels plus the Donaldson that no one else has found. I have dived wrecks from Two Harbors, MN up the north shore to Marathon and a couple of inland lake stuff. The Madeira down by Split Rock Lighthouse was one of my favourites and the America, Congdon and Emperor at Isle Royale are really nice dives. Haven't been there though in a long time...maybe get back there this year? Who knows...