Could you explain how you are adjusting the gamma and adding color filtering to your Beyond? OpenXR toolkit?

@@markkovalcson7243 No unfortunately it is in the DCS settings.

I'm saying that the specs people use to help pick their tools don't tell you enough to know how well you will like that tool. The tool matters. I was pretty happy with my CV1 for a while, but the SDE bothered me. I liked the Index pretty well for a while as well. However I got the Aero as a temporary headset. I was never completely happy with that tool. The tool did matter. Now that I have my Beyond I have the right tool "for me". The graphics do matter for many to enjoy the game play without being distracted. What I was saying was that simple numbers like display resolution are only the starting point and without a very good lens, much of what you could see is wasted.

The best way I can explain this is that some people put the Beyond on and naturally adapt to it. The sweet spot isn't huge, but there is enough FOV to see things happening in your periphery and some of us just naturally move our heads to see what we want to see clearly. The headset is so light and stays perfectly in sync with your head movements that it just works. When I put it on I had no adjustment period, it just felt right. The ability to whip my head around without having the headset moving around on my face was a MASSIVE improvement for me. Glare depends a lot on the title you are in. I can see massive glare in cut screens and some setup screens, but very rarely in game. 99% of the time it's just great and I don't notice it at all. I would say that glare is far worse if you have any light leakage around your cushion, or if your IPD is wrong. Both of those things impact image quality quite a bit. Otherwise, I never noticed any glare in game with the Valve Index either and some people complained about glare with that.

I sold Pimax crystal after getting Bigscreen beyond. I mostly play elite dangerous and beyond is vastly superior in comfort and definitely an upgrade in visuals and before you ask, the glare is barely noticeable except in menu screens.

​@@g-maniac8670 That's not what others are saying. Opinions are very mixed on the BSB. It has a lot of flaws that I know I wouldn't be happy with.

You can easily find glowing and damning reports on any headset. I've read pages of tirades about the Crystal being unreliable and not connecting reliably including some just days ago along with many other issues, while others say they've had no issues. I've read numerous reviews of the Beyond that were glowing and also those from people who don't like it at all. I spent a couple hours in game yesterday in my Beyond and loved it. Being able to whip my head around in game and have the headset stay perfectly in sync with my head movements is fantastic. The overall experience to me is better than any other I've ever had by a pretty wide margin.

From what I can tell about BSB reviews. It seems to me that people who move their head instead of using their eyeball rotation has a way superior experience because of the smaller sweet spot. That seems to be what the BSB is designed for.

Ever since Meta went back on their promise of not requiring a facebutt account to use their HMDs, I don't even consider them to be a player in the VR space. I consider them just like apple, another walled garden that I have no interest in.

@@michaelcarson8375 I use my quest with a meta account, not facebook. They don't require a facebook account. Also they're opening up their OS to other manufacturers, so they're very much differentiating themselves from apple, which is pretty good and I honestly didn't expect it.

The vive pro also has adjustable eye relief I believe. I will still buy a beyond because the reasons I want a VR headset seems to differ from a lot of people. I want a headset with good color, good resolution. and extreme comfort, nothing else matters to me

I also just learned that HTC had that feature in their Vive as well. Good to know. More exciting to know that the Quest Pro had this feature in a recent headset.

@markkovalcson7243 Yeah, they have a dial on top that pushes the lenses further in or out for people with prescription glasses. I just ordered some prescription lenses, and now I am able to gain more FOV because of this feature. It is awesome. Every headset should offer this. My next headset is going to be that Pimax Crystal Light. But, I don't think it will have this feature.

@@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe It likely won't in a headset like that, since we've never seen that feature from them before. I would expect it to be introduced in a new model if they ever decided to add it as a new feature.

@markkovalcson7243 Yeah, I have the Pimax5KSuper, and I ❤️ it for the large FOV. The head strap that came with it wasn't that great. So I bought some 3D printed adapters and modified it with Vive Deluxe Audio headstrap...

​@@markkovalcson7243is $570 a good price for a quest pro in brand new condition? Or do you think I should hold onto what I have now and wait for crystal light since I only play PCVR, would like to get a quest pro for PCVR and some light standalone usage for exclusive meta games like re4. I really like the open design of the quest pro, the controllers and the display because of it's quantum dot panel with local dimming.

Be careful using binocular overlap % as a guide. For comparing headsets with the similar FOV, it can be useful, but you really want to multiply the FOV * percentage overlap to see the number of degrees of overlap. Your eyes see 120 degrees overlap out of 180-190 degrees horizontally or 63-66% overlap. So as we get wider FOV headsets, that percentage will drop. Considering we are currently mostly around 100-115 right now, we are still in the range where our eye would make use of 100% overlap. But as they approach the extent of our natural vision, we will only need to see how close they get to 120 degrees in the center.

Thanks Brett!

It has been tested by VRFlightSimGuy and I personally do say that with 100% confidence.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!

In case it matters, when I mentioned PPD for TV's, I was talking about the pixel per degree that I could resolve sitting 10 feet away on my couch. I absolutely agree that any smartphone will outresolve a TV in pixels per inch on the display.

I've heard that simulating reality needs a PPD of 60, so the current headsets are still far off, even there are other limiting factors. The Crystal Super with LCD will aim for a higher FOV probably with similar image quality than the predecessor and the Micro-OLED version for a higher PPD instead, probably because some people prefer that. We will see if they accomplish it and even current hardware can't max them out, the 5090 next year might do the trick.

@@Leynad778 We can always hope!

Thank you! I still have my Aero and I did not know that was how Varjo was pronounced. Data points are good :)

@@markkovalcson7243 Sorry wasn’t trying to be a jerk lol. I’ve just been dealing with Varjo for years and learned talking to them that’s how they pronounce it 😊😉

@@markkovalcson7243 Sorry was not trying to be a jerk, I’ve just worked with Varjo techs for years and that’s how they say it 😉👍🏼

Scandinavians pronounce j like y, I would say it’s like vaario. It means umbrella

We'll see... One nice thing about not being monetized, affiliated, subsidized in anyway is that I can say the things that most VR channels wouldn't touch.

Comfortable for who? Most people say that the stock Q3 strap is complete garbage and that you need to upgrade to a more premium strap or aftermarket strap for it to be comfortable. However, I know of two people who said that stock strap was perfectly comfortable for them.

@@markkovalcson7243 My Brother has Q3 and with glasses he adjusted the interface close. Wasn't talking of the actual strap, which he agreed was ok, but not as good as BOBOVR mod. still Q3 has eye relief adjust in a crude fashion unlike the OG Vive and Index.

More affordable is unlikely. To improve on glare and E2EC etc. will require larger more costly uOLED displays. I've seen people go in both directions both Love and Hate with just every type of headset out there. I hated the G2 and sold it after 1 month. Many people have been happily using one for years.

@@markkovalcson7243 I still own and like G2, but I had to modded it alot as it was really bad out of the box.

Coming from valve index..I love my bigscreen. Yes glare is there...fov is a bit smaller... but for clarity, color and comfort...I love it and am happy!!

@@steveramundo4946 Hey its good that you like it. I have a question.The clarity is comparable to a monitor? Like a full high definition 24inch 1080? I know its not the same but i know its has no screendoor effect and maybe there are somewhat comparable.

How bad the glare is varies from person to person with the Beyond. It's influenced by several factors including the accuracy of fitment. So it's not just a matter of different user's opinions about how much glare is acceptable, but rather the amount of glare each person is experiencing is objectively different.

I've completely updated my rig since then and no longer use the Auras. Left/right separation is pretty much useless and you are much better off using more powerful transducers that operate in different frequency ranges with power. I'm using a BK-CT's and TST-429's in both the front and back of my rig now with spring isolation and linear bearings, and more powerful amplifiers and DSP's and 6 exciters directly mounted to the back of my seat. If you want to see more, I covered this in a recent video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYO3pGWVd72oec0&ab_channel=MarkKovalcson

@@markkovalcson7243 Hi. Thank you for your very fast Answer! I will watch the Video in the Link... At the Moment i own 5x Sinus tec BS250 bassPUMP an 3x Fosi Audio ZK-1002D Mini 100W Amplifier controlled with a external 7.1 (5.1) Soundcard and the Simhub Software (still searching for the mathemathical Profile) Before spending more Money, i would like to test them first. I want to install them on my wooden Rig with the same Seat you use in this Video. My Idea is to place 1 under my Pedal/Heel-Plate, 1 under my Seat , 1 or 2 in the rear of the Seat , an 1 to the Gear-Shift/Brake- Plate. Do you think this will make sense? Thank you!

@@farfarad89 If you are serious about putting together a tactile system that works well. Maybe you should watch this instead. That said I think everyone there is running a profile chassis. I'm not sure how wood holds up to that kind of vibration. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3nCZaGpg9OpaZI&ab_channel=MarkKovalcson

That's all in the GV community as are the plugins, profiles, and documentation with recommended hardware and mounting solutions.

@@markkovalcson7243 could you please show us how to go there and find the goodies. Or a link? Thanks

It was a VW Passat fully mechanical seat with tilt, lift, recline, and slide. I can't remember if it had mechanical lumbar support, or if that was the blatter of fluid that I drained.

​​@@markkovalcson7243 Thank you. I have the same...but from a VW touran . Nice to see, that you use the same for your professional Alu Simrig... At the moment i build mine from wood...maybe i will change some Parts to Alu (Hybrid wood-Alu) to be more versatile. But before i want to install and feel the 5x Bass Shakers stuff, i have bought... Maybe you could give me some tips how to do the Installation/Setup of the Bass Shakers. Thank you

@@farfarad89 Well... If you look ahead to newer videos, you will see that I have an NRG Prisma now. Once I moved up to load cell brakes at about 60kg for 100% I started to get lower back pain and the fiberglass shell seat took care of that. HOWEVER, Now many of my friends cannot fit in my rig, and the VW seat was MUCH better for flight.

@@markkovalcson7243 Ouch. I hope my back will stay ok. It was pain enough to get that seat clean.

@@farfarad89 I used my pressure washer and got an AMAZING amount of filth out of it!

This is never a one size fits all situation. Everyone has different sensitivities to different things. I notice some glare with the Beyond, but mostly with splash screens and setup pages. In game I rarely ever notice it and I greatly prefer the comfort of it. For the Aero, my biggest issues were with my motion system in Rally games where I could not get the headset to stay still on my head which is an immersion breaker for me. That is very much a head shape issue. Some people have a very different experience than I do with the Aero. The motion blur when panning is another issue with the Aero that I got used to, but still noticed at times. The last generic facial interface that fit me well was the Rift CV1. The Index was looser, but usable. With the Aero it got to be a problem. It was a serious issue in room scale games and in Rally with my motion system it was a problem. The Aero was actually fine in iRacing, but I like the Beyond just as well and the BSB is just simpler. I take the Aero out for vistors, but sometimes I go a while without using it and it takes a bit of futzing to get it working well in terms of frame rates when I don't bother with OpenXR when using my Beyond. Not a right or wrong answer for this. Use what works the best for you.

This isn't quite true though, I left a comment outlining exactly why. The XR-4's full resolution actually could fit within DP1.4a's specification, but the bottleneck is elsewhere. It's kind of like how the BSB's resolution and hz can technically fit within DP1.4a without upscaling(Higher res headsets than it do so without the need), but because of bottlenecks elsewhere in their pipeline, they have to use the upscaling for 90hz mode because they can't leversge the full bandwidth. We are really getting towards the limits of DP1.4a though and is something we'll want to be looking at moving beyond soon. But things like the Crystal/Aero aren't at the limit yet. Well, at least with 8-bit color depth. If we start trying to move to true 10-bit or HDR, then yeah that's another matter.

Ironic that the 7900xtx has DP2.1

@@vulpix9210 It is.

It's like saying two cars have the same HP, but one car gets a lot more power to the tires over a wider range of conditions and handles far better in real life situations. In a few years it will become easy for any manufacturer to slap a high resolution display into a headset. What will differentiate them is the quality of their lenses and it makes ALL the difference in the world. Distortion, color, brightness, FOV, and the many of artifacts you see are all because of lens technology. The display is just the raw image. The question is how well your company can get that image to your eye.

No. It's like running HD on an UHD TV. The TV is still UHD, but in this case you would only have one channel you could watch in UHD and everything else would only be HD. In this case the issue isn't lack of applications, but just that they don't allow current GPU's to push full resolution because they don't have good DFR support. Or you can wait for two generations of GPU's.

There is the other part to this issue mentioned elsewhere in the comments. The XR-4 doesn't have the bandwidth to ever run full resolution to the display without DFR. Currently the 4090 only supports DP 1.4a and even the headsets with 8Mp displays have to use compression to get full edge to edge resolution at a decent framerate. With Nearly twice that resolution even if the GPU could render the full edge to edge resolution at a decent frame rate, it would need DP 2.0-2.1 to move the bits to the headset. Currently the 4090 can't support it. So without Quad View DFR they will never display their rated ppd where you are looking.

@@markkovalcson7243Again, you're conflating two different things (rendered resolution of the game and resolution of the physical displays themselves) which makes what you're saying confusing and in some instances downright unintelligible. Saying you're running a 51 PPD headset at a different PPD doesn't make sense. That headset is 51 PPD no matter what. Native resolution of some games and support for DFR, etc is a valid thing and I agree with you to some extent, but you're mixing and interchanging different measurements is hard to understand sometimes.

@@carlosdominguez3108 Apologies for the confusion. The hardware is a given resolution by design. The problem is when you can't actually drive that resolution because of other bottlenecks.

@@markkovalcson7243 DP2.0 or...USB I guess that there is more computers equipped with USB3.2 than with DP2.0.... Bandwidth: USB 3.1 Gen 1 = 5 Gbits/s (Quest3 Pico 4's USB connection but limited by Android and XR2 O,2Gbit/s ) DP1.4a =32,4 Gbit/s but USB necessary. 802.11ax(Wi-Fi 6 et 6E) =8 Mbit/s à 10,5 Gbit/s 802.11ad(WiGig) =6,75 Gbit/s 802.11ay (WiGig2) = 20-40Gbit/s(...up to 176 Gbit/s very short range) USB 3.2 Gen 2×2 = 20 Gbits/s USB4.0 = 40/80 Gbits/s DP2.1 =80 Gbit/s. Japanese broadcaster NHK has developed a real-time HEVC encoder capable of encoding 60 fps video in 7680 x 4320 (8K) (Pimax Super equivalent) at 85 Mbps compression ratio of 350:1 4320p240fps stereoscopic video would require around 366 Mbps=0.366Gbit/s Not so much indeed but.... Assuming a compression ratio of 200:1 ....200:1 ! in VR....the DSC of the DP1.4a is 3:1.... The Quest 3 uses 200 Mbps ( with what 20 or 30:1 ratio of compression?) when streaming the signal in a good USB wire, bottlenecked by XR2. A Pimax Super would need at least 4/5 times more...1000Mbps or 1Gbit/s with the same average compression rate used in a headset Android/USB streaming with bad ratio and bottlenecked system... Or at least 3/4Gbit/s for a DP quality or a USB 3.2 quality with 3.0 ratio.... who need of Display port !? Many computers has already USB... Same for Wifi... WiGig 1 reaches a maximum of 7 Gbit/s. Which is good for 1 Gbit/s real and average ratio...in practical conditions. Yes, we must take into account the numerous interferences... Hence the need for WiGig2, if you want a good ratio And unlike TV which doesn't care about latency in its broadcast, and can have 1" delay in its live broadcast, provided by cameras, VR must calculate visual feedback to your action and stay under 12 ms, and in more with more images per second than TV! And there, that increases greatly the necessary flow rate!!! and so require WiGig2....or wired USB4/DP2...40Gbit/s with a GOOD ratio of compression For me the Pimax Crystal range doesn't worth the hype.... VR above 2x6Mp is bottlenecked ...by XR2 and Android, by Nvidia and expensive unable graphic cards...By Dp1.4 and its DSC...

Being a younger looking Disney cartoon may have some advantages.

For roomscale, I basically agree with you, but I love my BSB for sims too.