I love the F-104 to death I even made a squadron nametag for it but 13.0 is RETARDED, I pray this thing goes down a br in the future, even 12.0 in the F-104 would be a struggle

I play prop tier sim and occasional korean/early vietnam, so my exprience is not personal. However, looking at videos from Squishface and other top tier sim content creators, the spotting system itself is not a solution. Top tier air sim is also a mess.

Well that’s good and dandy for PC users but I still can’t play anything with a damn ballistic computer since they added the stupid fucking auto aiming 8 months ago for new and arcade players who can’t seem to aim worth a damn. So now (a person who is able to manually aim sufficiently suffers) when I play, the Ballistic computer turns on when facing a Jet lower altitude. And the thing is, it’s not aiming at the jet, it’s aiming at where the bullets will land on the ground. I want to be able to manually aim again, use my own skills. I can’t even turn it off because it’s constantly fucking on. It’s not the radar, because I keep radar off, it’s not the computer being on. (I play PlayStation) when pressing L2 to Help aim and Zoom, any enemies low to the ground, using L2 to track to help get the nose in the right direction, when the enemy is low to the ground. The computer turns on and WONT TURN OFF… 8 fucking months I haven’t been able to play anything past the F-86F-40 because anything past that has the auto computer turning on. Games BS hasn’t been fixed at all for me. I like to manually aim, not have a fucking Ballistic computer tell me how to aim.

I feel like if there were games like 3v3, there wouldn't be any uptiers or downtiers since there are so little players in the lobby and you could simply play against all the same BR planes

It's always interesting to see someone with a similar mindset come to a somewhat different conclusion. While generally I consider smaller match sizes a bandaid fix to a symptom and not a solution for a core issue, for many of the same reasons you mentioned, I came to the conclusion that it's the outdated map design that's at the core of the problem. All of the objectives are in a small area in the middle of the map, so there's absolutely no reason for people to spread out. Most maps are just full of empty air that will maybe see 1 group of planes every 50 matches when someone's running away to the map border. Spreading the objectives out would spread ground attackers out, which would entice stock and/or less confident fighters to spread out and hunt for them, which would drastically reduce the chaos imo.

Well if we are being "realistic" then spotting someone would only share that info with others when you do call it out. Until you get a datalink system that can do this automatically. (So modern jets actually do this quite well. Being able to share all sorts of data with each other. Even transferring locks to other friendlies in the area.)

Or just slow down and use gear

Why dont u just use gear

idk why nobody talks abotu this but smaller matches: smaller rewards i'm not getting any 6 kills matches in a 6v6 battle that's for sure

The QoL updates sure are nice but it all doesnt change the staleness of modes

Air arcade is now kinda lame

Its crazy that we are still playing the same gamemode from 10 years ago, kill everyone or the ticket bleed race. They’re so much creative ideas and gamemodes you could do in this sandbox but we’re still doing whoever makes the biggest furball first wins

i think you are right mate. it would also fit more with the realistic mode like ground where there is no spotting

Just add reasonably good AI. I remember playing ace combat infinity against AI, and i think it was fun.

another way to fix the spotting system is that if your ally spots an enemy, and you're within 5-10 km in range, it spots the enemy for you too.

Air realistic EC - 4-5 spawns to choose from, big map diffrent spawns for attackers. Add some low ticket drain due to people getting shot down so battle wont be 40 mins. It was discussed so many times ago on forum. But the snail choose to ignore all of those suggestions, due to one simple reason - money. They know that air rb sucks and they profit out it, its much more profitable for them to make air rb bad so people will pay to skip most of the grind.😶

Imagine playing a stock J11A against a spaded F15E in a 3v3 Or worse, 3 F15Es since both of them are (as of rn) the same br holy balls

Yes. I very much support reworking the spotting from the ground up.

what if, gaijin made it so that 90% of the planes are of same type (like one team is 90% f16 and other is 90% mig29) and based off of that the map size depends (it sounds shitty ig)

I think Gaijin should add some gamemodes, like 1v1 or 3v3 without any bases or other targets, and they could use big maps for bvr fights or small maps for dogfighting (at toptier)

Nice video, might have to watch more because i wanna get to top tier air, and so getting some prior knowledge about whats happening is gonna be important, also i cant help but notice you are in GuPWT squadron, im in the sister squadron GuPSU

If Fox-3's are launched at you, your RWR gives you more than enough information to survive that missile

I disagree about the larger battle size part. 1. Larger battles are just a band aid solution, you still suffer when you are gimped or your plane is stock. Utilising terrain is statistically easier if you are going up against less opponents. Force gaijin to add flare/chaff as standard and reduce module RP across the board is just a much better solution. 2. Although smaller battle sizes means that individual impact on the battle is higher, the impact one needs to make to change the outcome of the entire battle is also less: 8 kills in an 8v8 game guarantees you the game, but 8 kills in a 16v16 game where you die half way through can still lose you the game if half of your team are base bombers. In your hypothetical 3v3 scenario, even if you are stuck in a 1v3, you still have the impact to downright kill all 3 opponents by virtue of the number of missiles top tier aircraft is carrying. A 1v3 is winnable, a 1v16 not very much. 2.1 larger team sizes do NOT help the balance of the match; early differences can easily snowball into a one-sided game either way(it happens on most top tier matches, even back in the day) 3. Smaller team sizes also encourages longer gameplay, where you can use more missiles on the same opponent and have much more strategy (e.g.going all in in a salvo of ER/ET/77, or play the long game, focus on notching and conserving missiles, and land a decisive blow later), whereas it is impossible currently with 16v16, where you are forced to shoot at multiple enemies each encounter.

The main problem that War Thunder has is that level 1 players can use their Credit Card and can Cash into toptier immidiately.

my solution to this is to play ground RB. and thats easy for me, because im a groudn RB player already. hooray for me :)

bla bla gaijin sayin no top tier premium bla bla gaijin when shown the American dollar and average us income

This isnt toptier :D

Personally im not a fan of the bug. It made good planes even better and bad planes even worse. The game became too radar depended something stuff like sim already suffers. Lets take the F4-S as an example, it destroyed anything easily in a down tier but struggled even more in an full uptier against PD radars. Even at top tier planes like the already struggling su27sm played even worse due to their worse radar. Unless the readjust every plane with a radar in BR i dont see it becoming a thing.

The spotting solutions you propose would even be easy to implement by Gaijin. Already in Mission Editor CDK you can choose a setting that limits you to only see people you spotted. In advanced settings you can extend spotting range to 10km too. Gaijin could easily extend this option more to 15km and then use it. Also Undertale Yellow sourdtrack rocks!

I think that there should be an easy way to warn people about planes behind them as you would be able to do in real life. Make it give a little SL just like spotting so that people use it. I don't think it would be unbalanced, as they can pretty much to the same thing irl.

I would love a 6v6 game mode so I can pick that option if I'm feeling it one day. The option to spend more time in 1v1's then switch back to the furball gamemode that supports the majority of players when I want to grind. But alas like you said Gaijin employees hate to work more than 5 minutes a day.

I don't even play that hellhole of a gamemode (AAB my beloved), but even I felt like reducing the number of players per battle was a stupid idea every time I saw people suggesting it.

me in my a10 premium that gets uptier and slapped cause we only got 2 ata

Q: do u agree with 12.0 br of the F104 S ASA ? I don't think this F104 deserves to be a 0.7 br lower than the su27, or f14's or any other shit I love the F104 S ASA but it just pain sometimes. I think we need more decompression. And also the f104 S ASA needs its radar jammer. Ikd how effective it was i real life but i think it will help it if it stays at 12.0

Give Phoenix it’s real performance!

i agree with your solution, however i completely disagree with your statement of disregarding realism. I mean come on its a game based on factual / historically accurate vehicles and gaijin should only rely on the br system to "balance" these vehicles and not free willy-ing the flight models of these aircraft to their liking. i agree with the awacs/ ground radar systems addition however, I do think this needs to be added in air rb EC maps not on the small maps.

also unrelated but do you think 7.7-9.3 france is good? im trying to grind for the ouragan rn (im still at props)

peak music choice (undertale yellow my beloved)

Great video with good suggestions. Also W soundtrack. I think they should somehow limit the amount of missiles in the air as i really see it sometimes that i get swarmed by like 5 missiles from every angle.

I don't think it is the spotting, ironically I think it is more map design and size. While sure in props it doesn't seem so bad on a lot of maps except Mozdok where the time till engagement is almost as low as Top tier, creating a chaotic match (which can be fun considering the fact it only shows up in the MM like once a week it feels) As the weapons in game are far to long range, not allowing for positioning, and creating these missile jousts that cause the game to end so quickly before it begins. There needs to be a medium between EC maps and regular maps in top tier, As of right now the current time till engagement is about 3 or 4 minutes.

Both sides should have awacs and bases should be radar sites. If a radar site of early warning plane picks something up the entire team knows. This actually means high alt interceptor have a job now and base bombing directly helps the team. There is also more incentive to defend stuff other than getting a kill. Long range radar is essential in air to air combat and should be on maps as early as 6.7

Larger maps with multiple spawns would help inferior aircraft survive longer in top tier matches. It allows for tactics to be used which is something gaijin hates. Gaijin wants the fur ball. Players want skill and tactics. That’s why players want smaller player counts in matches to help allow people to use tactics more. You’re actually more likely to survive longer in smaller matches compared to 16v16 even in an inferior aircraft survive

I quit playing War Thunder when guided air-to-air missiles were first released. Now I've come back to the game, I'm grinding to reach top tier but I'm scared for my life... Top tier gameplay looks batshit insane

embrace the chaoss, play arcade.

Also because 7:41 russian bias

*Gets 10 kills and 2 nukes* "Yea this tanks suck don't play it guys"

My god.. just press G before landing, then hol throttle down. You loose 10 seconds tops, in exchange for not exploding. I hate belly landers. I don't understand why.

The concept of personal spotting could truly be a great addition for top tier or for all brs, though I would propose a tweak for it to retain some of the teamwork. If you are close enough to your allies (<6 km) the enemies that said ally spots could appear for you as well and when you are further away than 6 km form any ally, you only see the enemies spotted by yourself.

In the f104 i think the J does not have flares

your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.🐢