Late to the party, but my friend and I have an ongoing joke about challeneges dating back to the day we met. 7th Edition 40k kill team event, he was playing Space Wolves and I had my Orkz. Our first charges resolved, at nearly the same time yells, "I accept!" just as I yelled, "I ISSUE A CHALLENGE!" To this day, while charging, we still say the same lines. Many years later and newer players have no idea what we're raving about. Sure, we couldn't actually issue challenges during that event, but we still instinctively said it.

I know I'm late to the party with you guys and your podcast, but this makes the perfect listening while making my World Eaters Mk3 Despoilers! Chain Axes, Power Weapons, and Falax Blades on the Sarge and Apothecary. If the enemy is pinned, and in magical charging wonderland, a 20 man squad + Apo = 75x Chain Axe, 20x Power Weapon (I'm making enough Axes, Mauls, and Lances to choose what ever floats my boat on the day of), and 12x Falax Blade Attacks if everybody makes it there alive. I'm going to try running them bubble wrapping a Deredeo (Aiolos is Pinning and the Autocannons are great multipurpose). Is it the best? Probably not, but will it be fun and look cool on the table once painted up.

7:00 The Range is Crazy!

Hear me out, Dark Angels outriders with plasma repeaters. Basically a super fast bike that has an 12” assault3 twin-linked plasma gun.

For me it was the lore, the color scheme/units, gameplay, constant rule changes/new codexs, too many different armies, STRATEGEMS, and most importantly my older stuff being sent to legends. I disliked that you had to trust your opponent not to lie to you about their units abilities and stats without looking at their codex every 5 minutes, and so many times I was lied to about an ability or how many wounds a thing actually had. The tons and tons of Gotcha strategems that completely ruined what you were doing. New codexes coming out and making them extremely overpowered and unbalanced. Lastly having so many of my favorite models be sent to legends was just sickening.

Augury scanner should drop BS to 2 when making interception attacks or shooting beyond 24" during night fight, no modifiers can change this.

Timestamps would bring this Video up to 2024!

Timestamps on this Video would be SOOO GOOD!

Thank you!

I'm beginning the video now, having very limited knowledge upon how Horus Heresy table top actually plays. from what I understand right now, its just a more intimidating 40k with more rules and complicated rolling for shooting and attacking generally. I personally feel a little intimidated by how the game seems to be, in all its complications and all but am trying to understand and hopefully play a game of Horus Heresy. the models for it also look far better than 40k do, in my opinion.

What are your thoughts of using a weapon that causes blind which reduces WS and BS to 1, will night fighting take affect adding a -1 to BS as well?

Re-watching as I'm pulling the trigger and building 20 mk2 assault marines for my Iron Hands. I really enjoyed these videos... would love if you picked it up again at soke point. Had you considered looking to Legions Imperialis units for content? I'd be all over those videos.

Models are cheaper and I like the more serious aesthetic

This was so helpful, thanks!

Double claw and graviton for Angron!

so wish breachers could take rhinos

My issues with the Dark Angel rites of war are good ideas but poorly written for the most part.

dude's you ever coming back? this is my favourite Heresy channel!

Every HSS should have an Augury Scanner regardless because of the free Interceptor reaction.

absolutely criminal that GW is selling carnodons and aurox as cults militia on their website as of this date without including them in the army list.

As WS in sagyar mazhan they seem good : +1 mv from WS trait, gives +1 to charge as well Sagyar Mazhan gives 5+ fnp In a 20 man squad they seem scary cause they go faster and can take more damage

Heres how to get into 30k. Read the heresy books whilst playing 40k. 40k turns into a dumpster fire. Switch to 30k, realise your love of the books drives your passion for 30k immensely. Realise its a much better game than 40k and get lost in the heresy.

I would throw WS in there with Sagya Mazan

I like the Terrance great swords but sadly I roll hardly any 5+ murderous strikes so I do t kill anything. Had to swap some out for thunder hammers to get kills.

You misread Alpha Legion Smoke and Mirrors…. When your opponent declares shooting, you get to displace a full 12 inches and then your roll a single D6 scatter dice to see where one model of that unit scatters then the rest of the unit forms up on that model within coherency. Most importantly, the unit Shooting at the Alpha Legion unit if it no longer has range or line of sight cannot pick another target.

back again????

noob question here, why do dual lightning claws give +2 attacks? I thought they gave just +1, but they refer otherwise

I am planning on building an Iron Hands Assault Squad of 10 marines with a pair of Power Mauls and an undecided weapon for the Sarge. Something a bit unexpected for my opponent when he goes to overwatch them and realizing he may not kill as many as he thougth due to the Medusas Scales.

What about DG tacticak support squad with 10 volkitr calivers, their 'relentless' type rule, moving arkund and shooting, being naughty lil piglets

The #1 reason people can't get into heresy is that it's prohibitevely expensive. I know people with multiple 40k armies that just can't justify the price for a 30k one. Plus it's a lot harder to find players for it

The best reason: It's not based on the dumbed down 8th, 9th, or 10th edition rules.

He was "messing around with 12 men in a rhino"... cheeky

Im so happy they nerf the fulmentarus

I think the iron warriors are bad honestly you always prefer standard tactical with fury and heart. And i think the space wolves are Better then average.

Any more content coming soon?

I wanted to create a Spacewolves army because I wanted to learn to convert and sculpt. Started making an Army that can be played in 40k and 30k. Now I only play 30k because GW disallowed 30k units in 40k.

Something I found out about Iron Warriors Inductii is that they don't count as part of your compulsory troops choices. So I usually add Inductii after adding 2 normal Tactical squads first.

Dark angels one is super situational. Its great whem you know you will lose combat but need to stick on the board anyway and gain fearless. Another thing is to pair fear 2 it gives you with the herala fear one and stack them. But that also need the opponent to not be fearless or stubborn. Its very toght roap to walk.

good stuff, thanks guys for making this :) don't know if it was posted earlier, prepared timestamps for my gaming groups so throwing it in here: 2:34 - Dark Angels 5:22 - Emperor's Children 8:21 - Iron Warriors 11:40 - White Scars 15:15 - Space Wolves 18:56 - Imperial Fists 21:50 - Night Lords 26:19 - Blood Angels 28:24 - Iron Hands 32:43 - World Eaters 34:51 - Ultramarines 37:04 - Death Guard 39:59 - Thousand Sons 43:36 - Sons of Horus 46:37 - Word Bearers 48:43 - Salamanders 51:34 - Raven Guard 54:41 - Alpha Legion

Iron Warriors: they're specialised and not good in melee Iron Circle and Domnators: are we joke for you?

Weve nerfed the weapon skill, balistic skill and brutal by 1. Also changed that their fists go last in combat to allow hammers and fists go same time

We have a gentleman agreement, one squad 5 max on heavy support marines. They are busted with reactions and buffs

5 man dreadwing plasma burner bad boiiiis vs a contemptor works pretty good

17:54 it makes sense that they don't have their bolt pistol. These are vikings in power armour. They don't have time to teach them what a gun is or how it works.

I run 3, 15 man squads in a blood angels deep strike list. I have found that 2 spears and 2 axes with an apothocary keeps them around and viable till late game. Spears knock out tacticals before they have a chance to fight makes the fight tilt in my favor and the axes will carve out any ap 2 challengers or terminators. Spears and axes also are buffed by the destroyer debuffs hiting the instant dead threshhold. This has helped me cut down justerins in long drawn out fights. Also kept me fighting veterans.

On the one hand im always sad when Alpha Legion specific units don't get into the top of tier lists, but on the other hand you just listed 10 Alpha Legion units, so im good.

Any chance of bookmarks for the different weapons?

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