@@richardsmith4147 thanks Richard!

@@327365hp thanks!

lol, thanks Anthony!

Thank you!

LOL, I created rails so nothing can fall! Eventually I'll build a support system that keeps the thing in the same spot but not touching the desk.. just a matter of engineering!

So does bossel wood not take stain well? I'm not familiar with bossel, I have heard of Bosse, I've never worked with it but it is supposed to take stain well. To my eye the laser cut pieces in this kit sure looked like thin layers of wood glued together. Thanks for stopping in!

@OtterCreek I'm a subscriber. I enjoy your videos 🤗

Thanks Tammy!

No template or even any pictures. You just have to eyeball it! LOL

Awesome channel great video keep them up make sure you like and subscribe thank you for your support I need all feedback on my train videos thank you

Thanks John! Part 3 will drop this coming Thursday night.

Thanks for stopping by!

Thanks Sierge!

Thanks! I'm not sure what the prototype was for this kit or where it may have been, but I think it is a typical turntable of the late 1800's and early 1900's.

@@OtterCreek OK. Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah, I used some debonder but didn't mention it after that segment in the video. Thanks for stopping in!

It has been the most tedious thing I'm modeled yet. Walking away multiple times persevered my sanity and the bridge LOL!

Thanks Mike!

Not sure what you are talking about Earl.

🍿🧐 I’m going to think on this and get back to you.

I concede that I really like your rationale(s). The weather is a consideration. I primarily work on track and wiring out in the shop. It's cold right now... which is why at the moment I'm working on structures and I've even completed my first OC&RG boxcar. Working on these things for a few months over the winter resets my eagerness to move forward in the spring and allows me to consider longer term goals. Goal #1 has a benefit you may not be aware of. Yes, Hell Gate is a branch-line but it will really open up operations once completed. I'll be able to send/receive trains, North/South/East/West at Frying Pan which is technically the hub of the whole railroad. I presume Frying Pan will be the busier than the Cloud City yard. I can send and receive trains from Cloud City in a limited capacity already. Once I start construction there, I'll lose that capacity. Any way you slice it, once I begin goal #3, the layout will kind of shut down with the building of any of the bridges (I have many). I'll have to cut out spline, ensure bridges are built at the proper radii... a lot of things to consider yet. I only want to do this after I've run the entire railroad for several months. There are other factors to Goal #3 that I didn't mention, I have plans to rework some of the benchwork so I have greater access to hidden track. Also the lift up access hatch for the far end of Frying pan is part of #3. The good thing about Goal #3 is I won't need to do any of it out in the shop. I expect this to take more than three months though. I did'nt go into detail on the sub goals of #2. I believe (right now) I need to work out the valence and backdrop in this section before I begin any trackwork due to the distance from the fascia. More thought about the engineering of this has to be put in before I begin... another reason for taking a break for several months while working on structures. Thanks for you thoughtful analysis of my goals @Trainzluvr !!!

See, those are some of the things I wasn't aware of. So the big picture will work out the way you planned it out. Looking forward to the productive 2025!

Wow, Thanks Mike!

LOL, yes there were a few clips used in the editing of that!

Thanks Dave!

Yeah, expansion joints should be planned for and included. I'm hoping I've got it right now!! Thanks for stopping in!

Rats! I forgot the segment of video where I dealt with the rat. You know what they say, snitches get stitches so it's probably best I didn't include it! You are correct, this build is light years more advanced than my first turntable, which is not to say it did not come with it's fair share of frustrations! Patience and perseverance wins the day though! Thanks Lawrence and beware of rats!!

@@OtterCreek That's my plan. (Beware of and be aware of rats!!) I won't be moving to NY City any time in this lifetime! (nothing against the folks that live there, though, esp. railroaders & railfans)

A total of three for the layout. Cloud will get the Durango style. The 65' Gallows tables will go in Hell Gate and Frying Pan.... if I can't get my first one motorized. Thanks for stopping in David!

@ oh speaking of motorization, I just found out about this indexing system called the PTC4 by NYRS. It's pretty expensive, so I'm not sure I'll be getting it anytime soon. I just thought I'd mention it in case it's something you'd be interested in.

@@davidstefek16 It's Doubtful I'll use an indexing system. As I recall the PTC4 requires a stepper motor, so I think you need the whole system for it to work. Once I get everything close to up and running I may look more into it to see if my motor will work with their circuit board. My motor and PW modulator move the table so slow it's no challenge to align the bridge.

Since the Steel Curtain of the late 70's! LOL. Thanks for the sub!

Yes it is! Thanks for stopping in!

Yes he does, great kits!

LOL, I don't think Kitwood Hills offers a 130 footer! Thanks Ray!

I liked it, I think it's great for blending edges and shallower land features. Probably not economical for use in large areas.

Thanks Ronald!

It is a really nice kit, I think you'll enjoy it @billbeverly2864

Thanks for watching and the kind words Bernard!! I try my best on the video part, unfortunately I don't have a camera set up that allows me to film a lot of what I do. Somethings I have to be 6" away from the work due to eyesight!!

Thanks! 90% of the kit was really easy to build, the truss rods were the worse part and required all my patience! Thanks for stopping in!

Thanks Paul!

Thanks John! The are worth the wait, I had to wait over two years I think to the three I have.

Thanks Dave! It really went together nicely, all my cussing happened in the next video!

It is a very well engineered kit, I'd say greater than 90% of it a beginner could put together with very little issues. The hardest part was the trusses, that was a bit frustrating but manageable. Thanks for stopping in!

Thanks for putting out the vid. I’ve been following along with your build. Astonishing how much you accomplish with such a large layout. Well done. I stop into Second Section Podcast from time to time. Hopefully see you there sometime.

Thanks!

Thanks Alan! Truth be known most people skip to the end of every video regardless of length. I find it's more important for my sanity to keep things around 30min. Ensuring I have something on a weekly basis is best for YT algorithms it seems. Eventually I may change the format, I'll run out of benchwork/trackwork/wiring hopefully this year. I need a better camera set up for the structure builds!!

@@OtterCreek Pretty tough to predict the KZbin Algorithm Dennis. Sometimes the A.I. will base increased impressions on short videos, and then it also loves the long video's with the additional "mid-roll" ads. Mid-roll ads means greater revenue share for the content creator if you are monetized. Furthermore, a succefful channel is not based so much on subscribers, but rather, "total" watch-time hours every 28 days. Subscriptions and views don't mean much if the "watch-time" hours are low and the CTR is below 4%. No matter how good the video is, most will skip through them anyway, just because they can . . . lol. Cheers.😊

Early on I tried to post twice a week, that is very exhausting I'm sure you know! No doubt it increases the watch time hours even if it's a shorter video. That is something I may be able to do in the future when I'm working more on structures and less on layout construction depending on the format. I've never paid attention to the analytics much, they are more of a curiosity to me. I'm still not monetized, I probably should go ahead and do it. Maybe this will be the year I make the decision. Thanks for stopping in Boomer I always appreciate you wisdom and incite!

I've tried to watch mpeterll, I love his work and it's very inspiring. His camera work makes me physically sick unfortunately. There are a lot of really great channels I can't watch do to camera movements. If I were guessing, ME track on curves would be less prone to move and Peco more so. I have no experience with atlas track. More track will expand this spring, in a railroad growth kind of way! Thanks Lawrence!

@@OtterCreek Yes, dizzyingly inspiring!😵‍💫 Thankfully, we are seeing more slideshows and less motion sickness🤢 lately. Regardless, you are spot-on regarding ME v. Peco (as I recall how the track-laying narrative went). I'm looking forward to Spring growth on the OC&RG and all the rest on your channel.🤗

Yes, no movement was the problem. It is my practice to solder the rail joiners on curved sections of track. I have found that's the best way to ensure you don't get kinks at the joiners on radii. What I didn't do was add expansion gaps (non soldered) in the straight sections after laying the track. It was my plan to do so, but I got on to other things and just didn't. As I mentioned, I had similar issues on other track and the appropriate gaps are in place, I guess you could say I'm a slow learner. My expectation is that the track will not cause problems regardless of heat or AC. I will absolutely have scenery LOL. I'm curious, you say you don't glue your track so it can be free, but you also say you'd rather have scenery. Do you not ballast your track? To me that is where scenery begins with modeling a railroad, but as you mentioned, we all have different expectation of what we want from our modelling. Cheers!

Sorry for the late response. As for Ballasting. I now have 6 layouts. Most of my layouts are vintage. The Track was designed to be on the baseboard or Table Top rather than elevated on Cork with Ballast. My latest layout is the Hornby Dublo Shelf layout. So with this one I've painted the Ballast so that the visual effect is acceptable. The Track isn't even pinned to the baseboard. See my Hornby Dublo Shelf Layout Part 5 video for this if you are interested. For my Hornby Layout (The Garage Project layout), the Cork is Glued to the baseboard, the Track is pinned to the Cork. The Cork is painted like Balladt and the Ballast is glued to each side of the Cork to give the visual effect. I like to the look of Ballast but hate the fact that you can't make changes to the Track once the Ballast is down. So if you get a fault develop in a set of Points, you have to rip up the Ballast to change them. With my approach all of the Track is removeable. To me it is a maintenance thing. Hope that helps.

Yes, all the spline is corked with N-scale roadbed. There would have been a lot of waist if I had used HO.

​@@OtterCreekcheers for that, I've been noodling about options for hon3 road beds.

It’s a tight fit, but it works. In theory, you could leave a slight gap in between the two strips of cork measured with something as you glue, and it would end up being the perfect size. I haven’t done that, but it is an option.

I'm going to look into a humidifier for the winter time. It might help IDK. Thanks Chris!

Thanks!

Thanks Kevin! Hope you can drop in more often!

@OtterCreek Count on it!

Thanks Dave! I'm sure ballasting will help, I'm just not ready to go down that path yet! I've ordered a couple of hygrometers. I may get a humidifier, I'm convinced it's the heater that does it. The air gets pretty dry in the layout room during the winter.

@@OtterCreek Yea, I didn't ballast for at least a year, or more. The ballast will make it noisier when the trains run, but if you run slow, it shouldn't bother much. Best of luck with this project!!!! Love the layout!!!!

Thank you!

Thanks Tammy!

Thanks Matty. The only places I've had issues have been on sections with curves. I've been reluctant to leave gaps anywhere on a curve because I just don't trust the plastic ties to keep the rail in line. This last go-round really proved that. The ties stayed glued down and the rail popped out of the tie. I think I would get an instant kink if gaped on a curve without introducing a joiner as well. I'm going to wait another year before scenery on anything with the curves/loops! Thanks for following along!

Yeah, I'm convinced I need to get a humidifier for the winter. My room is above ground and I have a mini split blowing directly in the area hardest hit. The track that moved two years ago has not moved since, so I'm hoping a similar thing happens with this section as well. Thanks for stopping in!

@@OtterCreek I'm glad glue isn't as permanent as you would think. I hope if I ever have an issue like that I can handle it as calmly as you have. It wasn't the end of the world and you didn't have to tear up your whole layout to fix it. Good luck on your mitigation efforts and your continued build!

Yes sir! I won't use anything but matte medium for laying track from now on.