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@geirmolden
@geirmolden 27 минут бұрын
Once again Rob, exelent work 😊 thank you so much🙏
@WhySteve
@WhySteve Сағат бұрын
Thesedays everybody is just buying an FX3 and shooting at night 😅 Great video man! it's tricky to pull of a night look and you're nailing it!
@dorianvocalartist
@dorianvocalartist Сағат бұрын
thank for for this, I found value in it 😌
@thepropolys
@thepropolys Сағат бұрын
Cool tutorial. Thanks, Rob.
@garethreeve5578
@garethreeve5578 Сағат бұрын
I am absolutely blown away by this video, Rob... Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! 😀
@SolidBlueBlocks
@SolidBlueBlocks 2 сағат бұрын
Which tool did you use to "bring down the sky"?
@33rdframe
@33rdframe 2 сағат бұрын
Bro this is epically good, subscribed!
@The_Daliban
@The_Daliban 2 сағат бұрын
Love it! Thank you guys and your course was amazing 🙏🏻💪🏻
@YBNcovers
@YBNcovers 3 сағат бұрын
WB in camera 5600 ?
@chody2065
@chody2065 3 сағат бұрын
nah this is so crazy, the amount of detail and meanings behind your words are incredible. you're so talented and thank you for the tutorial ill for sure have to try this out.
@meme_tunnel
@meme_tunnel 3 сағат бұрын
Being blind, I approve this.
@dipitbhatt7224
@dipitbhatt7224 3 сағат бұрын
I've found out for photos, when the sun is between mid noon and sunset with uv index below 5 and clear sky; got the best results for me.
@researchchemicals2u
@researchchemicals2u 4 сағат бұрын
amazing thank you
@dominix_1
@dominix_1 5 сағат бұрын
Amazing
@jasonvizzini3
@jasonvizzini3 5 сағат бұрын
great video. y so serious?
@zaiENT1
@zaiENT1 5 сағат бұрын
the only thing left out/not mentioned is the ambient sound, if you are in a Forrest and you hear birds chirping you will think its day, hearing crickets makes it feel like night.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 19 минут бұрын
@@zaiENT1 absolutely - it’s in this video! Just not mentioned, as I tend to only explain visuals on the channel. This is a very helpful comment and I’ll get it pinned once my current pin is no longer needed, thank you!
@davidgregory6193
@davidgregory6193 5 сағат бұрын
gran video perro,gracias.
@staticvideo
@staticvideo 5 сағат бұрын
Always an exciting day when Rob releases a new video. 🔥
@MtZionMediaPro
@MtZionMediaPro 6 сағат бұрын
Love that you use the Blackmagic cams!
@MtZionMediaPro
@MtZionMediaPro 6 сағат бұрын
Some of the best DFN I've seen in a while! 🙌🏾🔥
@lucadeandraderibeiro
@lucadeandraderibeiro 8 сағат бұрын
I'm alredy looking foward for your new videos. Your work has been an amazing source on the subject. Thank you for your effort.
@VibeMusicAI
@VibeMusicAI 8 сағат бұрын
Looks alright but Day for Night never really works. It's always obvious IMO
@j.b.7133
@j.b.7133 9 сағат бұрын
shout out to the sun and moon being similar sizes for us. the sheer coincidence that the moon fits within the sun too... is very weird
@theseventh2609
@theseventh2609 9 сағат бұрын
♥🔥
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 8 сағат бұрын
Hope you enjoyed the video! 🤍🔥
@O.W_Films
@O.W_Films 10 сағат бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 9 сағат бұрын
You’re welcome - hope you found the video useful in some way! :)
@gurratell7326
@gurratell7326 11 сағат бұрын
Interesting to get this as my recommended; I have been thinking about day for night shooting for just the last few days since I for some reason came to think about me trying to say the exact same thing as you on r/cinematography on Reddit but getting downvoted into oblivion for it. The sun and the (full) moon do light up the earth in the exact same way with the only difference being amount of light and white balance where the moon is actually warmer than the sun, it's just as you're saying our eyes dark vision seeing it as blue. So yeah we need to get the exposure down and change the white balance to get the a day shot to look like night, but it would also help to add noise since that's what we're used to see when shooting at night for real. Also crushing the blacks by bringing up the contrast, and adding artificial lights on both the subject but also in the background will convince us fully that it's a real night shots. You shouldn't even have to darken the sky like you do, or like they did in Nope with that IR footage (that only made sense in Ad Astra for those moon shots) since that's just not physically correct, but of course it can help to get a bit better looking image if that's what your after :) Anyways, you did some really good explaining here, hope those downvoting Redditors get to see this :D
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 9 сағат бұрын
Absolutely and some good tips here to increase the realism further! I think ultimately it’s all about balancing all of these aspects with how you want it to look - and applying some, or all of them to varying degrees, depending on what works best for the scene/story/feeling. You can go super realistic or super stylistic or somewhere in between and it can still read as night to the audience. Thank you so much for your thoughts, I appreciate it!
@BrunoAlbuquerqueCinema
@BrunoAlbuquerqueCinema 12 сағат бұрын
Amazing, as always. Your youtube channel literally changed my life. Thanks for bringing such an amazing content for all of us!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Wow, such kind words! I really appreciate it and super happy my videos have helped you so much. Thank you so much!! 😊
@MCplayer94
@MCplayer94 12 сағат бұрын
7:29 I'm sure that mosquito got toasted
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
It is an overkill bug light for sure 🤣
@Zer0404
@Zer0404 12 сағат бұрын
0:06 bro got Alec Baldwined 💀
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Lordy
@ThatSalim
@ThatSalim 13 сағат бұрын
One of my favorite channels on KZbin ❤ Thanks for the good work man. God bless you.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Wow, thank you! I hugely appreciate it ❤️
@n1tr0sys09
@n1tr0sys09 13 сағат бұрын
What a video man, love the creativity and thought process to make decisions about how and why something works, making analogies about real world light, sun and moon, gives a more accurate understanding. I'm testing lowering WB on camera since mine doesn't have raw, or even log, but it always seems that doing that raises noise more than the opposite. I have read an article that said that camera sensors are less sensitive to blue light, if that is the case, is it better to have the cooler light on scene if possible?
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Glad to hear you enjoyed it and I massively appreciate your kind words - thank you! I’ve never experienced a lower white balance effecting noise levels myself (not on a noticeable level at least) so I couldn’t comment on the technical reasons behind that! As long as you’re exposing appropriately you should be okay for noise. In this video I generally reduced exposure a little further in post, which crushed the blacks and took any potential noise out of the equation!
@n1tr0sys09
@n1tr0sys09 11 сағат бұрын
@@RobEllisCinematographer the advantage of doing it with daylight is that there is enough light to start with and as you say lowering the exposure negates noise even more. When I try to make led daylight lights to look more blue It tends to raise noise somewhat more than warming them, as far as I experiment with my canon. Idk how raw works but it seems like WB affects noise in other ways when not shooting with it
@emmanuelphillips1740
@emmanuelphillips1740 13 сағат бұрын
Amazing Video!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Happy to hear it, thanks so much! :)
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem 13 сағат бұрын
This is a very well thought video, saved as a reference video (rarely add video to that playlist). But owning an A7SIII I might try to buy the Laowa 35mm f0.95 and see if I can squeeze natural night shots with no additions at 51,200-102,800 ISO. Tried 100K ISO and it looked relatively acceptable and good with an f2.8 lens and could go to 409K of course but adding more noise.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Glad it was helpful Bo! Yeah I’d love to shoot some actual natural light night stuff on an A7S, it would’ve been great to do that for this video but had to stick to photos for the comparison bit. I hope the tests go well!
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem 4 сағат бұрын
@@RobEllisCinematographer Here hoping that Sony introduces its 2-layer transistor technology to FF sensors, which could push for insane dynamic range and low light capabilities. Them being quite could be a good sign.
@LastKnownWhereabouts-h4p
@LastKnownWhereabouts-h4p 13 сағат бұрын
Love it.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Happy to hear it - thank you!
@eucsvoboda
@eucsvoboda 14 сағат бұрын
gem of youtube
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much! 🙏
@makeshiftadventures
@makeshiftadventures 14 сағат бұрын
I asked, you answered...thank you good sir!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it/found it helpful in some way! :)
@RobertJohnPhotography
@RobertJohnPhotography 14 сағат бұрын
This was really good. Thanks
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 11 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Robert! Always good to hear from you!
@roismartin
@roismartin 14 сағат бұрын
GREAT VIDEO, do you recommend having a LUT on camera to view it? i also use the same camera, how do you recommend setting it up in Davinci? only lower exposure, cold temperature
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 13 сағат бұрын
I recommend having a LUT on camera to view anything you’re shooting! You can set your white balance lower in camera to preview the cooler look, especially if you’re shooting in BRAW as you can adjust slightly afterwards if need be. In terms of the final image it can be as simple as lowered exposure and cooler white balance, but sometimes you may need to selectively change colours or bring out highlights, etc, it depends on the shot!
@dennismenace4188
@dennismenace4188 14 сағат бұрын
Interesting video. Cheers from Melbourne Australia.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 14 сағат бұрын
Glad to hear it - cheers from the UK!
@stevenkralovec
@stevenkralovec 15 сағат бұрын
Probably one of the best day-for-night videos I’ve seen!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 14 сағат бұрын
Wow thank you so much Steven! Glad you enjoyed it!
@innatemusic
@innatemusic 15 сағат бұрын
Brilliant explanation of the sun's light and the ambient light in the shadows at 1:45. Great job, brother!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 14 сағат бұрын
Always appreciated man, thank you!
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem 15 сағат бұрын
Time to stop directly talking to us as we're starting to feel like you're a lovely bloke. Bring back Mystical Rob!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 15 сағат бұрын
Haha! But what if talking to the camera is an act - and the deep frowning isn't?!
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem 14 сағат бұрын
@@RobEllisCinematographer AI tech is advancing rapidly, I guess.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 14 сағат бұрын
@@Bo_Hazem 🤣🤣
@sotografik
@sotografik 16 сағат бұрын
Great video Thanks for your work. I have learned a ton from you.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 15 сағат бұрын
Super happy to hear that - thank you! :)
@AnotherOtherMan-alive
@AnotherOtherMan-alive 16 сағат бұрын
Something to keep in mind is to try and hide the iris of the actor's eyes, as that isn't something you can easily fix in post with day for night. You can see it in your example shots. The trick would be to keep the face well enough lit to convey the purpose of the scene but hiding enough so you don't realise easily that it was shot day for night. Less is more.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 15 сағат бұрын
So disguising the size of the pupil, so it looks more like it's dilated? That is a level of detail I hadn't considered and it's great! I don't think that would actually be too difficult to pull off in shots like the ones in the video - now I want to go back and try it haha. Thank you for this!!
@AnotherOtherMan-alive
@AnotherOtherMan-alive 14 сағат бұрын
@@RobEllisCinematographer you were already on the right track with how our brains intuitively process night-time lighting. It's just a matter of including the unconscious components also(like pupils dilating in low/no light).
@AllThingsFilm1
@AllThingsFilm1 16 сағат бұрын
Excellent walkthrough. Thank you!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 16 сағат бұрын
Great to hear from you and happy you enjoyed/found it useful - I appreciate it, thank you! :)
@baxslatton
@baxslatton 16 сағат бұрын
I really really love this. For some reason, I just couldn't wrap my head around doing day for night on a small budget. Thank you for always hitting us with the best lighting content!!
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 16 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much man! Happy I could help in some way and that you're continuing to enjoy the videos! :)
@t.l.screations7445
@t.l.screations7445 16 сағат бұрын
Bro you’re giving free masterclasses. Thanks for your every video❤ From 🇮🇳
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 16 сағат бұрын
Too kind - glad you're finding them useful! ❤️ from the UK!
@FrancoE.Zapata
@FrancoE.Zapata 17 сағат бұрын
Love the video as always, i´ve recently been investigating the technique Jarin Blaschke used in The Northman for achiving realistic nightime, he use a custom made cyan filter and desaturate it in post, it also ment that he had to compensate for the warm tones makening them a lot more red. There is a very cool article in the American Cinematographer about it.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 16 сағат бұрын
Thanks Franco! I was reading about that recently too - I love the look they created in the film. What they did in Nope is also a cool one, although a little unachievable on a minimal budget haha! I love how there's still new processes being made to create a day for night look, it's such an interesting method!
@ThroughtheLensProductions
@ThroughtheLensProductions 17 сағат бұрын
As someone who's contemplating shooting a short film next week at a location at night or doing it day for night, this was something I really needed to see today.
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 16 сағат бұрын
Perfect timing on my part - I hope this has helped in some way! :)
@BanderaFilmsAndMusic
@BanderaFilmsAndMusic 17 сағат бұрын
You maniac genius! 🤜🤛
@RobEllisCinematographer
@RobEllisCinematographer 16 сағат бұрын
I'll accept the maniac part but I'm not sure about genius 🤣 thank you so much!! 🤜
@BanderaFilmsAndMusic
@BanderaFilmsAndMusic 16 сағат бұрын
@@RobEllisCinematographer 🤣🫡🤜🤛