The reason why the rape gangs situation was not addressed or looked at more, is not just because of fear of because accused of Islamophobia or racism. It's because the middle-upper classes have so much contempt for the working class. If it was their own nice social circle that had been subjected to this, there would have been outrage and a wider investigation. The vulnerable working class girls were regarded as acceptable fodder, sacrificial lambs. The inaction around this issue was meant silently atone for the past sins of the British Empire. I have come to that conclusion after hearing so many plum-accented, private school educated people sanctimoniously brow-beat people for daring to object to immigration or refugees. They simply have no empathy for the working class people that will have to fight for resources with those people, or who have concerns about it. They are seen are seen as the undeserving great unwashed. It's fine to accept a new hotel being used to house refugees or large amounts of immigration I suppose and accuse others of racism when it's not happening on your own private-gated doorstep.

I loved my first pregnancy... each day was amazing and i was constantly googling through what happens in which month to my baby and my body. I had a really emotionally draining second pregnancy and developed gestational diabetes from 28weeks onwards. During birth i had insane amount of bleeding and went into postpartum haemorhage. Now five months postpartum the pain i went through is not even an afterthought in my life. I get insane amount of happiness and fullfilment when looking at my kids and caring for them. Don't get me wrong... the loneliness that comes with motherhood has me crying sometimes. It is hard... but the joy i get from my children eclipses it.

"The combination of having an incredibly atomized and decadent society with a very clanish religious one... is a completely mad combination" - this is what so many people aren't grasping. They aren't seeing the true nature of our society, or of others and it's such an enormous clash"

Freedom without responsibility - what could possibly go wrong...

paul says of deep-green like primitivists "you risk becoming a dangerous misanthrope" which is an accurate observation I think, as well as being depressing and not particularly life-serving. But you can say the same thing for the more corporate "bright green" mindset they mention in this discussion that it also comes from a misanthropic position, as it more increasingly comes from a technocratic humans-as-spreadsheet-value corporate-social-responsibility CSR policy position which lacks any connection to "the world being saved"... but at least is a lesser-evil than fossil-fuel/extractivist mindsets

The Luxury Beliefs are strong with this pair! Just for clarity - the demands for an enquiry are more about the political cover up of this abuse than the abuse itself! Bureaucrats and politicians tolerated the abuse for political motivations! This is why LIEbour is opposing the enquiry - they have too much much to lose!

LMFAO Fmnsm destroyed the colonizers in a decade

I always imagined certain people having the ability to get high religious belief, people who could only believe a tiny bit, and people unable to get religious belief at all. However, in times of high social pressure, the people who were nonbelievers or marginal believers had to fake it. Maybe you have heard of the hellfire and brimstone types. They are common in many parts in the USA. What they often get is people who can't actually believe most of the stuff. Why are they in church on Sunday? They are still paranoid over hellfire and brimstone possibly happening to them after death. They end up there doing God things they hate. Pascal's Wager is tied to the hellfire and brimstone sermons. Even some clergymen refer to such people as "Fire insurance clients." Some people who promote this stuff brag about lowering suicide rates. Sure it does. Those people instead exist miserable and wait for their own death, enjoying little life ever gives them. I argue that if there are no more fire insurance clients, good riddance. Some people will argue that people should go religious because they'll say "Look at all these better outcomes for religious people over nonreligious people." What the people who say that fail to understand is that religious belief only has an upside for people who can actually get it. For people who can't pull off belief, attempting to "Help" them is as helpful as hammering square pegs in round holes.

Something similar happened on a smaller scale in Australia in the early 2000s. In those cases is was Pakistani and Lebanese men. You can read about the cases on Wikipedia by searching "Ashfield Gang Rapes" and "Sydney Gang Rapes." Those cases and other incidents contributed to community tensions which boiled over in the Cronulla Riots in 2005.

I'm told that much of the increase of religion outside the Western world involves the spread of the prosperity gospel. If so, that's simply the tightening of the grip of global neoliberal capitalism. It would have nothing to do with Christianity, the religion about Jesus, much less to do with the religion of Jesus, a form of prophetic Judaism which starkly juxtaposes God and money. Better to secularize, is it not?, than embrace a perversion of religion.

Well, they showed the white girls they're not so hot. And we don't even really care. And after this tempest in a teapot history will roll on to where it's been going.

I think the Japanese men you were talking about not wanting to have sex with their committed relationships are because they don't want to reproduce with the women because they see no value in marriage. They're not going to marry these women therefore they don't want to reproduce with them. You can have a loving relationship and not want that person to be the mother of your children. I believe women call it the ick when they first meet and date a man. Everything can be there he can make money he can do everything but because of this one thing I can't marry him. Same thing with hamster girl. She loved her long-term relationship and lived with him and became attached to him but didn't want to make babies with him the same is true for those two young men you were talking about. They just haven't left yet.

Authoritarian Cosmopolitanism is now state ideology in many Western countries. Whether this was the inevitable destiny of Liberalism is another question. Personally, I suspect it was.

Yeah but its just the bad ones that are plowing on mate

Multiculturalism only seems to be working to elites because they are the elite, and so only see their society as being there to service their needs. Multiculturalism does not work at grassroots, and we are paying the price. Eventually, we will flip the table.

Religion is not declining. We are.

You're husband is 'babysitting' his own children?

Even within Western countries, there's just a shift in religious devotion, not a decline. Maybe less people go to church and identify as Christian, but other forms of religious expression are on the rise. We can see it with political polarization--people turning their politics into religion, whether they're MAGA and see Trump as a saviour, apocalypticists believing the world will immanently end with climate change, believe in the "original sin" of racism/homophobia/colonialism, etc. My friends who are supposedly "non-religious" often believe more supernatural things than my religious friends do. People believe that crystals have power to heal them, tarot and astrology and tell their future, yoga and certain dietary restrictions will improve their health, psychedelics will open them up to "higher realities" or the "spirit world," etc. These are all very religious things and have exploded in the past few decades, but are practiced by people who mostly identify as spiritual, agnostic, and non-religious. Believing that there is a higher purpose in life and that there is more than just the physical world is something most people cling to, even if they've shed traditional beliefs in God and Christianity.

I wonder if the opposite is true? That being a participant in religion brings you into a community, wherever you find yourself, and that community values and helps with children, so you have more. Rather than his suggestion that you need help with your children and demand it. I feel atheism is anti-natalist - if you've only got one life, you want to live it to the full, not invest in the future. Why burden yourself with children, who are perceived as hard work? I find it no surprise that as secularism rises contempt for children and mothers does too. Many traditional religions and cultures hold having children as mega important. Here in the UK we value money, and the jobs that can bring it, so we can live our "best life" on nice holidays and early retirement.

Why does Israel have around 3 children per woman? Because in Judaism, if you're a boy, you are told since you are a child that you must have at least a boy and a girl (it's a mitzvah that must be fulfilled and it is something every man has to do). So those boys grow up and look for a wife, to have at least one boy and one girl. What happens is that a lot of people will get 2 boys or 3 and then have the fourth baby so that they would also have a girl or they'll get 2, 3,4 girls and they will keep having children until they get a boy. Compare that to the other cultures and religions or nonreligions, where boy grow up to be men and don't care about marriage and children at all, unless they are very religious.

A massive part of the problem is that since WW2 it has been very difficult (near impossible) for people of European (aka "White") heritage to express any kind of in-group concern or solidarity without comparisons being drawn to certain Germans in the 1930s and 40s. The working assumption seems to be that European people either don't or shouldn't have any in-group concern, however moderate or reasonable it may be. Meanwhile non-Europeans are allowed (encouraged even) to have as much or as little concern for their ethnic self-interest as they wish. Immigrants are free to keep ethnicity (or "Race") as part of their identities, while the only identity the native population is allowed to have is one that welcomes their own eventual displacement.

Interesting perspective! I have a theory that, scripturally, men were designed to engage with the non-human world, and women were created to engage with the humans in the world. This means women are focused on inter-personal relationships, and any fundamental difference between people suggests impediments to relationship. So if you suggest differences, the feminine tendency is to be offended and to attempt to erase them, since it resists their raison d'etre. Then, if you were to lie to them and say that their thoughts could be absolutely true and trustworthy (which atheism does, by removing anything truer than your thoughts), this would blossom into feminism. "If you want something done, ask a woman" and all that.The male tendency of exploiting the natural tendencies of things, thus emphasizing them, would not help. Thoughts?

Middle class people talking about something they'll never understand, because its never them that has to live with it .

Ultimately, it won’t stop sex robots from coming into existence. If there is market demand, the market will usually provide, and over time, they will only improve. The key questions are when and how widespread their adoption will be. None of these can be answered with certainty. One thing we can guarantee, however, is that, much like today, there will be a negative reaction from some feminist circles to the existence of these robots.

What worries me about these kind of discussions is that the poor old autonomous liberal individual is completely washed away by bell curves. Considering the large numbers of atypical people needs to be more than a caveat at the beginning!

When I hear british people talk, I'm not suprized that their country is going down the drain. All talk, zero action. Zero passion about anything. They seem intelligent, but inert and ineffectual.

Perhaps this data reflects a highly polarised time where feminism is generally allied to the 'woke' perspective?

It was feminists that voted Labour. Let that sink in.

The rambling ignorance of this discussion was hard to take. If the level of awareness of other cultures is an indication of all in Britain…no wonder this happened!

The rambling ignorance of this discussion was hard to take. If the level of awareness of other cultures is an indication of all in Britain…no wonder this happened!

You should have Lucy Allen on! She spent a decade fighting for justice on behalf of those impacted and knows a lot about the inquiries and where they lack.

I’ve long had difficulty in following Louise Perry as she speaks on these videos, and the reasons are strikingly clear if you compare her speech patterns with those of Abigail Shrier, who is a wonderfully clear speaker. By contrast, Louise’s speech is too fast, too quiet, too unaccentuated - her voice routinely trails off at the end of a sentence, forcing you to listen very carefully to hear the final few words. The net result is a loss of clarity, of credibility, and of impact, and increasingly often I become too frustrated to view the video all the way to the end. I dearly want to hear *all* of Louise’s trenchant insights. Please, please, seek out help from a voice coach or public speaking tutor :-)

Boils down to ego.

Considering that modernized western nations have seen rising rates of people identifying as lgbt (of course recognizing the lesser stigmatization)… could we possibly consider the effects of contraceptive pills on the body of mothers, and the possibility of its impact on the sexual development of her offspring?

I'll become a mother when hell freezes over! (pfft fictional places can't have temp anyway)

Free Tommy Robinson

Given that males are statisitically unlikely to be victims of SA, we have a situation where 50% of the population disregard the plight of the other 50% . That includes men at every level of society from the top law makers, police, politicians and heads of organisations. We need men to step up to the plate.

Divorce is one of the worst ideas in human history.

I love Julie, I wish I was half the woman she is and had her courage and I wish her all the power she needs to fight the good fight. Thank you Julie

Hi Louise, Hello out here in L.A. I would love to hear your opinion on the new movie Nosferatu. Thank you for putting your insights on KZbin!

I've found that the biggest leftist lie is that every problem or perceived problem has a perfect solution. At that point you are at war with reality.

"What do we want"? How about Justice? Police doing their job and going after the criminals whatever ethnicity they are? I concider it racist to NOT hold someone accountable for his actions because of his race. We should all be treated equally, accross races.

Seem to be falling over themselves trying to explain the severity of these crimes away. The crimes committed by the invaders of your country were obviously not fully reported so your stated stats r skewed.

US is so wise to hold on to the 1st amendment, to understand its value. The thought that someone would be fined -- or jailed! -- for posting a meme is unimaginable here in "the land of the free."

I found the section on clans and the claim that most perpetrators of this crime weren't just pakistani but from particular clans. I can't find any info on this in Web searches. I'd really appreciate any references or pointers for searches

Just hope she doesn't become an anthropologist specializing in murderers.

What really struck me was the post office Horizon scandal. This had been reported on repeatedly in the media for years and years. I knew that because I was someone who followed the news. And yet when ITV made a drama about it, there was uproar and it was evident that many, many people were hearing about it for the first time. It must’ve been really depressing for the journalists who had reported on this story. It made me realise that there must be a large part of the population that simply doesn’t follow the news in the way people like I do. Therefore, I find it entirely plausible that many people are becoming familiar with details of the rape gangs story for the first time. I would go further. I often wonder why people aren’t as worried about mass immigration as I think they should be. And I think the reason, or one reason, is that they simply don’t understand the scale of what is happening. The tripling of already high immigration levels by the last Conservative government is a major event in modern British history, but I suspect most people don’t even know it’s happened. Apparently, only 61% of children in British primary schools are now white British. White British people are soon going to be a minority in their own country and that is a radical, radical change. But, again, I suspect most people have no idea that this demographic transformation is about to happen. On the question of why we’ve never really had a nativist party, the voting system is probably part of it, but I wonder if the British class system has also got something to do with it. We have moved from a society run by the aristocracy to a democracy gradually and in stages without a revolution. As a result, we have had confidence in our leaders and have been generally deferential to their views. .

Mr west speaks of racial tolerance being drummed into the native population yet not realising how ironically illibreal that sounds you can't force people to he tolerant forcing people to be around people they don't want to be around or to date people of other races you dont find attractive is something out of 1984

Ed west seems to think interracial marriage is some kind of silver bullet for a dysfunctional diverse society like the UK it's not such marriages are a weak union and also produces children who don't look like there parents there is good reason why there not any studies on white women with mix children no serious study has been done on parantal bonding or parantal altruism when the mother has mix race children probably because they would not like the findings

Could competitive sports for women is an evolutionary mismatch? Like micro plastics in the ocean it just causes problems but life goes on with them, maybe competitiveness is a poor fit to women which is why it won't metabolize well?