I’m not liking it at all. I’m in a really tough space. Photoshop is all I use and know for the last 20 years.

@@TylerEdlin84 Are there any recent Photoshop tools that you can't live without? I've seen folks online digging up their old CS5 Cd-keys but I think there's not many of us with that option.

@@cloggedaorta as an old user, its hard to go back to not having adjustment layers and clipping masks. Better just to firewall adobe out of calling home or P1rate

@@Nek-my8jq Yes, if the old version has important tools it's hard. Although I thought at least CS6 had adjustment layers and clipping masks but I don't recall. I don't know if a firewall would stop them from reading what is in the cloud though. So many artists today go from laptop to ipad using CC or keep assets in the cloud. What ever is there may already have been used to train their AI and it's gone. Only future work could potentially be kept safe at best.

@@cloggedaorta if they can't connect to the internet there's no cloud though. At least Microsoft made it clear they are scraping data from your own PC, you don't even have to post something and windows is trying to rip you off. Social media sites never delete anything, even if you cancel your account so all your images from all the years previous are in their servers training AI even if you cancelled your account, no doubt about that.

Here's a secret: machines and humans aren't the same.

Good luck with that until your boss decided to replace you aswell

It's simple, in your logic, a parrot 'll be a great orator just because it can mimic human language. But apparently it's not. The same goes for human learn from reference image and AI steal data, those two are not the same progress.

@@huymaivan8671 Parrot is a low quality orator. Artists base their learning process on stealing others' work, taking it all into their mind and recombining it. If pieces of your artwork are taken, you can prove it. But if your style is mimicked, you can't do a thing. People do the same. Most people use what they see and masters recognize their own lines in their work. Is Miyazaki's style allowed to mimic? Is Don Bluth's style allowed to mimic? Stealing means something was taken as it is. Learning means it was changed. So pick what you're talking about exactly. Plagiarism? I despise it, it's awful, never do that. Learning? That happens every day, every second all around planet. AI will evolve and learn to mix pictures to make them non-recognizable. Should it not be popularized before that? Yes, I think it shouldn't give services before it's refined. But they will continue because using it is necessary for the process of development. I don't like it, I'm on your side in it. I just don't know what CAN we do. Forbid learning?

@@RedGallardo there're no such thing as "parrot is low quality orator" . Orator is orator. parrot is parrot, there's no inbetween. How low a human can be to the point considering a parrot is an orator in their dictionary? The key difference between a parrot and an orator is the understanding of word and how to use it. The same goes for AI steal data and human using refrence, The understand of why it red color need to be there, and why blue color need to be here for example, The AI just put the blue there because the style it mimic say so. while the artist with his life experience know exactly why it must be blue there.

@@huymaivan8671 Yes, there is now an inbetween. It's AI. It's not as dumb as a parrot, it's way more fast and complex, with vast memory and capabilities. Not alive yet, not sure if it's good or bad. If it was alive, we'd have to accept it as another mind, same as ours, only better. Young but better. It may not use whole fragments of pictures, it may learn, use basic forms: sphere, cube, cone. Same as human. Yes, I know what you mean. But the argument "it doesn't understand but still makes something pleasant" is flimsy. We don't need it to understand. And, again, I emphasize that I do not like AI, I do not support AI. I'm conservative and I want people to preserve traditional art. I use pencil, no tablet. But AI is here and the question is what are we going to do about it. And what can we possibly do. You're right, it's not like human mind, it's not alive and with rich imagination. But we can only look at is subjectively. Cover a human and an AI with a box and try to see them as abstract entities with properties. They learn. They both need input, they don't create from 0. They start being young and silly and grow up. They have a right to use reference. It doesn't matter what's going on in their minds. If they understand color theory or not. We only see the result. The box spits out sheets of paper with drawings and we analyze if it's good or bad. If it's plagiarized or mimicked or masterfully combined from basics. That's all that can matter to us. We can't get inside another human's mind to know how they think. If they steal or understand. If you blame AI for being dumb, you'll have to blame 90% of other artists and designers. Which I have no problem with, I dislike lazy artists as much as you dislike AI. So... Yes, it's an inbetween. It's a parrot who can simulate a conversation. Literally all them Siri, Kuki, Alice etc. are such parrots. Who are more than parrots. Who answer questions and find info. They don't understand, don't feel, but they talk to us just the same as we're talking right now. You don't know if I'm AI or not. Because they're already good enough to simulate response at a high level. So to you there will be no difference. You're alive, you get real emotions, you get mad at me, annoyed, you give me arguments and listen to me. There's no difference to you if I'm alive or not. If bots can do that... why would they need to understand? No-no, I don't mean they can replace humans at everything. But talking about art, any customer wants to get a result, not know the artist had feelings and understanding. They need quality product. AI gives it to them. I repeat, I don't like it either, but what can we do? No one stopped Photoshop from replacing traditional media. No one will stop AI from replacing human toil.

AI is just a plagiarizing algorithm, is not even real intelligence

normies don't even care, they just want endless streams of crap and nevermind its its all produced by some robot or an indian content farm

It already 700k at this moment, so what is your point?

Aww, corpo's feeling getting hurt? Need their boots licked?

No doubt they will reject the 100 word paragraph written by an AI bot, as they are apparently trying to make it as difficult as possible so people just say "screw it!" and don't finish the process. Maybe not, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

@@flickwtchr even if I did wrote it on my own they can outright just say “nah objection denied”

It's about "See a need, fill a need". People so craving to have a version of ArtStation clear from AI trash, which Cara is exactly that.

your entitled to your opinion. I started a KZbin because i like to share my thoughts. Its nice to hear yours even though you lack manners.

@@TylerEdlin84 sorry mate im just sick of the bad news bait. I like that you’re sharing your thoughts, but there’s just so much of stuff like this out. This problem seems small. Not really a big deal. Will be more interesting if you add a bright. Don’t let your thoughts be all negativity.

In your logic, a parrot can become a great orator if it just mimic human language. But in fact it doesn't, which apply the same for how AI steal data compared to human using reference.

You are failed artist, if you think GenAI in any way works like a human.