ARTISTS CANNOT BE REPLACED: AI, the art industry, our next Steps

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[@TylerEdlin84]

What are you doing to thrive as an artist as we move forward?

[@omegapainter]

I'm getting a business degree in project management. I'm hoping to use those learnings to both get a better schedule and study schedule and also make possible being an art director for 3D animation in the future. But most importantly, I am drawing 6 days a week, making sure to draw things that help me grow and draw things that are more comfortable to keep my drawing skills up as I study business.

[@LillenArt2]

I am focusing more on my concept art and character design skills. Also, putting more personality into my art and hanging out more in artist circles that have banned AI. Thinking about making a few art related products and maybe doing some traditional works, even though I love digital.

[@FablestoneSeries]

Contrary to what some critics suggest, AI does not "memorize" and replicate existing art. Instead, it operates through probability distributions, a mathematical concept that allows for the generation of new data without directly copying from its training. The actual "stealing" happens when the prompter instructs the AI to replicate a particular artist's work. On a request by request basis the AI searches the internet for reference. So even if we trained AI on art only art in the public domain, which Adobe Firefly is trying to do, the capacity to steal still exists because the user just has to type instructions, "in the style of...." So if you put your work on a site like Pinterest then it will steal from you. So if you want to safeguard your work you have 2 options. Remove your work from the internet, or... stop crediting your work. Whatever it takes to prevent the internet from finding your work.

[@barbi111]

Also, the layoffs are not only happening in the art field, but many other field. Politicians and media says it is because of AI, but that's just a cover, actually we are in recession and THIS is why most of layoffs happening, so it is not because of AI art. They are just hide the fact that the economy is bad, very bad.

[@grimsonforce7504]

Finally someone that has common logic.

[@danny90099]

It not that bad it just go back to normal stage ( pre-covid) . When c virus happen , company over hired people now everything back to normal ., they have yoto laid off lot of people to balance budget

[@LillenArt2]

I think the main reason is unchecked greed.

[@baltiir2953]

say that to me (used to work in I.T) and several of the people who worked in the factory next door their job was checking seeds for quality. we all got replaced DIRECTLY with A.I

[@Tainira94]

There are people all around the world being laid off because of the incorporation of AI; even in financially prosperous countries. Not everything is related to America and its shitty economy. 🙄

[@RamyAmr.m]

I'm 26, been practicing art since 2019 (never drawn before that), and am currently preparing for a career shift. I just quit a very well paying job in banking (which I hated and it barely left me any time or energy to build a portfolio or to practice) and I've never been more scared in my life. With the rise of AI, I'm walking against an even stronger current. Every single person in my life is warning me, and rightly so. No matter how much I practiced, how disciplined I was, or how much I sacrificed, I still felt like a beginner. I'm very scared yet feel at peace with myself. I don't know what to make of it but what I'm sure of is that if I didn't take this risk, I'd regret it for the rest of my life. Art is hard.

[@user-bq8pi5ck5k]

Hello, a month ago I completed another course in drawing game graphics (creating match3 game tiles). As the course progressed, I realized: yes, I don’t know how to do a lot of things, there are many gaps in color grammar, and little experience in general. but, like you, I know that it’s better than just thinking and dreaming about it. and online courses improve greatly compared to self-study, as many questions open up to which I did not know the answer. but the best thing is offline courses, live, with real students, so the learning curve is even higher

[@samthesomniator]

Make something you don't entirely hate for a living. And do art beside that. Build strong Portfolio and wait to get in industry with that. If you work under the pressure to fullfill a certain need this can sadly kill your passion for what you love in the end!

[@morg5432]

The problem is that you always think about it and it eventually destroyed you without even do anything The only thing that make you frustrated and delay isn't ai but your thoughts about ai, having fear over it wasn't really smart. You always been like that even before ai become a thing

[@illuminated_crown]

Ive been doing art since 2001.. bro go back to the bank

[@Nakagolas]

I'm a portrait artist, I do photorealistic drawings. That's what I enjoy doing and what I will continue to do. My whole identity as an artist was obsoleted before I even began. Cameras exist. What's the point of spending 15-60 minutes doing a photorealistic portrait of someone right in front of me when I could just snap a photo and have something that is objectively better in every conceivable way, after all. At the same time, AI never generates exactly what I want at the moment. I've never had a picture generated and thought "this is exactly what I had in mind down to every last line." It's always been "this is definitely the idea that I wanted" if I got lucky. Being an artist to me has never been about just making something that looks good and throwing the results into the ether for people to enjoy, it's always been about making exactly what I want down to the last line or brightening someone's day by putting my own time into them. People appreciate that. That's not to say AI has 0 problems or won't cost people their jobs. It's just overblown to what degree it will do that.

[@TylerEdlin84]

Thanks for sharing

[@kinginyellow3100]

It's not about being accurate. I'm new to art and I like tech so I can see this with two perspective as an artist I can see you definitely getting less jobs as a consumer tech head I don't care that it's not a 1:1 good enough and it's free so I have no expectations

[@FireF1y644]

@@kinginyellow3100 Yes, people like you will need to evolve and stop eating sh*t, basically.

[@Kagemusha247]

I don't trust any jobs or vocations which comes under the umbrella of "Industry" or "Production pipeline". There is absolutely no need to directly tie your artistic drive to something like that. The decision makers in any corporation will ALWAYS try to minimize the losses and u will always be a disposable resource for them which can be replaced by more cheaper labour or A.I or whatever.

[@williammclean6594]

Yeah that's why with AI even though artists are better at drawing companies will try to replace as many artists with AI. They'll only start hiring artists again if they actually see a profit loss because of the quality of the AI

[@morg5432]

This is one of bullshit statement ever

[@morg5432]

Just simply says that arts in general simply isn't answer to your life but rather an expression, people spent days and night tryna be perfecting it and when eventually a.i replace everything, they suffered a heavy lost while arts were never meant so

[@morg5432]

​@@williammclean6594the thing is that if you believe yourself that much and want to make few bucks out of it then why even need to get hired by big corperation?, is davinci and van gogh get hired? No! And yet public praise them like the goat and probly richer than any studios...

[@williammclean6594]

@@morg5432 yeah but the sad thing is artists don't really make any money. The only way they can make money is by selling their own work. Or by working a second job that's not related. DaVinci made money because he designed all the war gadgets and blueprints. Art was just a thing he did as a hobby. In Van Gogh never sold the painting in his life. He only sold his work after and committed suicide

[@Nabs_Draws]

Thank you so much! I am happy that a lot of industry veterans are currently coming forward and spreading hope in the community. Just recently I was talking to my Job agency about it and that I slowly loose hope to work in the industry at all. But then your videos came around. And Adam Duffs Videos , And Trent Kaniuga who say "Hold on a second, if I give up now, all the work of the last couple of years, my Degree in art...it all would come to waste. And I know deep down that I will never ever want to give up doing what I want to do. I'm too stubborn for this!" In other words, my inner motivational flame is starting burning again! And since then I've been thriving! Redoing my Portfolio, learning even more things, shifting my focus on taking time with my art instead of pumping out daily mediocre art. There are things AI might be good at. But we artists can do it 100 times better if we sit down and learn it. Especially from the concept side. The economy might be shit right now for any job out there, but I have hope that better times will come. I am sure there will!

[@bake-io1cf]

1- industry veterans are not the most affected, its entry level and mid level positions who are getting fired and replaced 2- these guys sell tutorials for a living, their income depends in people still thinking learning art is worth it as a career choice

[@Nabs_Draws]

@@bake-io1cf Yes and no. While mid and entry levels are getting fired, thre are still a lot of opportunities out there. We just have to shift our view from the Big players in the Game and Animation industry and might need to give smaller studios a chance. Yes, they might not enormous budgets and sometimes the workload is crazy, but I can assure you that a lot of indie studios still like a human touch to their work. Aside from that. AI is horrible at doing proper concept Art. A lot of art directors already have spoken out about this and this also gives me hope. It's just a matter of time until AI dies down. Let the big companies play with their toys and let them produce crappy products for a while. Hopefully they will learn soon enough that Artists/designers/Musicians and actors have the upper hand when it comes to Entertainment. That it's our collective touch that makes their current products that successfull.

[@morg5432]

A.i doesn't care if you do it 200x better because it were made to replicate your work, beside just sit and draw and get surrounded by 4 empty walls doesn't spread hope or anything, it just not enough if you draw alone

[@11RIHAM]

I read a post on linkedIn about a studio that started a project with AI prompters, and how hard it was for the lead artist to give art directions for those prompters, they had no artistic eye and couldn't fix anything therefore the project was cancelled. Hiring someone just to regenerate AI images is like hiring someone to do google search for you, it's stupid and head of studios will realize how stupid it is overtime, you can't have someone work on a smart medical device with no medical experience. Therefore I'm sure we are 100% safe from AI, it's just a tool that's no different than pintrest, something to help with brainstorming and with placeholders but not for the actual project.

[@2265Hello]

Yes because they hired Ai bros but that aside I don’t disagree. With the law suits on Gen Ai still ongoing and with other countries shifting against giving Gen Ai no copyright protection. And some places like South Korea deciding they wouldn’t giving it protection, the way things seem still are in favor of well actual artists. Ppl who have actually taken the time to learn the skills and make a piece. My issue still stands on the questionable ethics around the training data of the gen ai though but again that’s being addressed still

[@rodrigoalvarezavendano3905]

Well, but that is the current state of AI. think in the future of an AI tool adapted, not for some poser AI bro, but for one of the best Art directors and 5 senior Artist (That have proper knowledge). Yes Artist will be needed but if you needed to complete a project with 50 you will now need 5. Then One may think. Nice. That is more money to develop other projects faster and more people working on different projects. The reality will probably be massive layoffs and more for the artist that feel uncomfortable using the new tool and the new process. The only thing that will save artist is legislation that protect artist and their copyright. And anti-AI tools.

[@TheManinBlack9054]

Cool story, any actual source for that or is just someone bsing on Linkedin again?

[@rafadydkiemmacha7543]

AI is some new level dystopian tool.

[@YaiunicUP]

Omg Tyler wait... I'm a bus driver and next year, when I'm more financially stable, I'm gonna go down to part-time so that I can continue pursuing art with more of my time

[@wekky420ranarr]

that's awesome, we believe in you

[@Metal-Spark]

11:47: I agree with just about everything you've said in this video but I really dislike this comparison. AI is built on copyright violation and data laundering, clip-art isn't. And while the two might be comparable in the sense that they're 'disruptions' to an existing market, I think it's obvious to see that AI is a much bigger threat as it's far more versatile. This comparison seems to imply that we should just let things run their course, and while I agree that spiraling into depression, quitting or finding yourself frustrated and angry at something you can't control is a net negative, we should absolutely be fighting back against AI because it IS built on stolen work and that IS illegal and worth fighting against to get regulated. Look toward artists like Karla Ortiz, support them and follow their lead. Call out this tech for what it is; theft, but don't drive yourself crazy doing it. 13:33: Ok yeah. This is what I thought you were getting at and this is a hard disagree. I understand that you're coming from a place of good intentions and looking out for artists who might be struggling with the crippling pessimism floating around right now but we should absolutely not just lay down and die. Definitely don't sacrifice your mental health on this or put yourself into a negative place by completely submerging yourself in this debate online, but if you do have the mental capacity to call out this tech, then do so. Even if all you can do is talk to your sympathetic friends and family to educate them on why it's unethical, you've done SOMETHING to make a positive change. I'm not saying everyone needs to sarcifice their finances, time and mental wellbeing to fight this in the courts and engage with AI bro trolls, but the real battle here is regulation. Regulation is decided by governments, governments (in theory) listen to their people. So be loud, kick up a stink, talk to your friends and family, educate people online, join a class action lawsuit - do whatever you can without damaging yourself in the process to make it clear that artists and creatives as a whole are a united front.

[@DawnofTitan]

Thank you so much for this video, Tyler! I think we are sometimes too quick to forget that of course companies will always get excited about anything that has the potential to make them more money, but that doesn't mean we as people have to care about that just because they do. Industries will change, companies will rise and fall, but we get to decide what kind of world we live in by making a conscious choice of where we put our attention and effort every single day. Nothing can ever take art away from us, because that power doesn't belong to the companies, it belongs to anyone who feels the urge to create and the resilience to keep going.

[@DeeAreDee]

"but that doesn't mean we as people have to care about that just because they do." Unfortunately it means exactly that. It means we as people DO have to care about that just because they do, because what they do literally affects our lives and the environments that we spend those lives inside. You're right that art can never be taken away from us- people make art in the most hellish conditions, because art is how we express the self in reaction and relation to our environment, including our societal environments. And shitty environments are going to give us a whole lot of profound human art, yes, but I kind of don't care. I'd rather have profound human art in a stable environment. Human art can result from all our emotions, not just despair. Art doesn't have to be cries for help, art can be exuberance and abundance and joy and passion. And the way AI image and video generation is going,

[@samuelmoreirafurtado718]

Just watched a video about a guy who lost his 8 years old job due to AI, which is really creepy, thank you for making this video so we can have hope again.

[@noiJadisCailleach]

Try to find the vid: "Design Cinema - Episode 110 - What AI Cannot Do" It gives you a list of actionable skills we can focus on so we will be non-replaceable. It's really solid.

[@Kagemusha247]

​​​​@@noiJadisCailleach tbh, he was talking from a very industrial design pov in the entire video. Lot of people don't exactly wan't to shift to that, just because some drawing or painting is involved. What about illustrators and other digital artists who had a stream of income doing what they love. Sure, it might've been a comfort zone from them but swithching to hardcore industrial/entertainment design for movies or games is not exactly a solution for everyone. Also entertainment design is not math or science dealing in absolutes. Do you really think everyone watching a movie or game gives a crap about how intricately the designs work there. First the story needs to sell, rest will.always be secondary.

[@grimsonforce7504]

​@@Kagemusha247 Those people will still have their income. The only people I see struggling are artists who weren't very good to begin with. Its the same thing in tech low entry level meant lots of people who have no business being in the industry got it. With AI it meant there were a lot of "empty seats" naturally for business needs if you weren't productive you'd get the cut. And even if good people got cut because of their skills they had no issues finding work. Same with art the people who are really good illustrators always have clients and more often than not have to turn away clients. Meanwhile mediocre artists struggle to get commissions but don't do anything to improve their artwork but instead blame AI.

[@Metal-Spark]

@@grimsonforce7504 This is a dumb take. Entry level jobs are there to help people learn and improve. No one begins their career in any industry as a senior level anything. By removing entry level positions we're kneecapping the future prospects that COULD'VE been great but now won't have a chance to grow. And that's not just in art, that's in everything.

[@grimsonforce7504]

Lol think for a moment no is removing entry level positions, only dead weight! Entry level doesn't mean do nothing and expect everything handed to you. Why do you think they're are experts in the field? They started from nothing but were passionate about what they did and never stopped learning. Don't be complacent and you have anything to worry about. Simple as that! Can't cry if you aren't anything about it.

[@cloggedaorta]

I believe there will always be a place for people who make things with their hands. I guess part of the panic is that so many of us have shifted to the digital world where what we make may not be ours (it’s the studio’s) or may be endlessly replicated. I guess our future will depend in part on our looking back, making unique things again (that yes, can be turned into a print or merch) but a bit back to the basics, independent of the monstrous corporations the likes of Blizzard and others we’ve been taught to follow

[@jediapocalypse2919]

Really good video Tyler! Love the part you said about having multiple incomes, to diversify. Reminds me of a comic artist named Tim Mcburnie I was listening to a few days ago who said he originally had that mindset of “okay I’m doing gaming and I’ll be a game artist.” He worked for a studio for a year-it was primary goal at the time-before it got shut down. The Long story short of it he eventually found his way into (French) comics where he is now. But between that he did other artistic jobs/gigs from illustration to some concept art stuff, and said life’s so unpredictable that it’s good to branch yourself out-life & income wise-especially how wide/vast the art industry is! But also how things can change in a split second, such as when his studio shut down. It isn’t good to say- if he originally- tried to solely go for gaming jobs as his sole source of income.

[@asimian8500]

AI is an existential threat to humanity. You can only adapt to a certain point before you won't be needed. While AI may not replace all artists, it will replace many. At a studio, you will need a few artists "managing" and "cleaning up" AI work. Let's not kid ourselves about this. It's already hurting animators as most animation studios are using AI and just not openly admitting it. Many jobs have left overseas due to lower cost, but AI will be even cheaper and even these overseas jobs will be replaced. Finally, it will replace most white collar jobs. If an AI can do creative jobs, it can certainly do mundane "boring" jobs which the majority of people do. Yes, even doctors as AI does a better job diagnosing than most doctors. Once AI is connected with physical sensors and robotics, it will replace surgeons, plumbers, and other craft jobs. It's only a matter of time before an AI with robotic arms paints and draws using pencils and oil paints.

[@eviv8010]

the future looks dark for the most of humanity right now, its not just artists.

[@astreakaito5625]

Thanks. I settled on continuing myself, but art is no longer my priority for sure, that's just the reality of the situation, just because it was hard doesn't mean AI isn't making things even harder and we might be reaching "impossible" levels. Definitely also making more personal artwork as well, since that's less likely to get stolen by AIbros. Maybe people don't even deserves art if they're going to act like this about artists, and thinking we're worth replacing because stealing from us has been systemized into generative ai apps. Because it's worth remembering that ai art is just art theft, nothing else, that will always be the truth no matter what the corrupt laws says about it and what the aibros are saying to cope. So there's no choice anyway, if you want to make art you'll have to do it yourself if you consider yourself to be a decent human being.

[@LillenArt2]

Art is everywhere and so it's easily taken for granted. There have definitely been days when I have questioned if we deserve art and artists so nice. It's still strange to me that there are some people who genuinely hate artists. : (

[@Skywohka]

Good video. We need to beat AI by learning AI and using AI to the best of our advantage, like how Disney animators have been using models for the past 20 years.

[@miguerys9503]

You can definitely blame things that out of your control, because they can affect you and implede your progress objectively while there's nothing you can do about those, the world is not an even playfield. Yes, it's up to you to evaluate and do whatever is in your power, to take matters into your own hands as much as you can, but you have to concede there are external factors that will affect you no matter what, If you can't blame things that are out of your control, all that's left to blame is yourself.

[@helvyart]

Love the message :) What art people tend to not realise (from a person coming from a non art background/career) is that many other fields of work are extremely difficult as well! Lawyer, Doctor, Engineering... Even less socially rewarding careers for example marketing, interprets, anything related to culture or policy making. All require a lot of effort, a lot of time and money, grinding your way up for years just to end up pitching a new washing machine campaign.... And are also being "threatened" by new technologies. So if I have to choose between 2 very hard things, I'd rather do what makes me vibrate :)

[@TylerEdlin84]

The key difference though is that with a lawyer or doctor there is a pretty straight forward path to success. To to X school take Y exam take Z residency and you can be working in the field. Art is more challenging in that regard.

[@dwintster]

Great Video, I think the ability to design and create things based on our unique experiences and perspective is what will set us apart from AI. It's not going to be easy but there is hope for those that are willing to persevere and keep working and exploring.

[@yenix7293]

i often have anxiety. i'm 17 yo and always worrying about persuing my dreams or giving up and just decide to study other things, it hurts a lot cuz i can only picture myself working in the art industry, but how can one picture themselves doing something everyone is saying it's useless, when maybe you'll spend a lot of time on something you'll never get that's what i often think and it's terrifying cuz i know art cannot just desapear but i still fear a lot ☹

[@ginzosquingilly6711]

SHEESSH! Another banger of a video down, and I'm already looking forward to the next ones! The music in the background had me emotional and deep in thought about my goals, where I want to be, and how to get there. It's a long journey, but I am incredibly happy I took that first step and have no regrets. In my opinion, the only difference between an artist and a regular person is that an artist pushes through all the mental blocks and self-doubts that a regular person would choose to quit at. Everyone has these doubts and everyone hits those roadblocks, but only an artist continues to push through and directly challenges their ego to achieve actual self-improvement, both as a person and an artist.

[@TylerEdlin84]

Thanks for viewing

[@BarKeegan]

Hopefully will lead to more artists/collectives/indies creating their own IPs

[@TylerEdlin84]

It surely will

[@LillenArt2]

I see AI as an extra step to some of the industry issues I already had some concerns about. This is why I have chosen to pursue a more independent path with my work. I do want to do part-time freelance eventually, but I will be choosing clients carefully. The power dynamic also feels a bit more fair, working with someone rather than working under someone. If someone is feeling insecure due to AI, I encourage them to play with it for themselves. Learning about AI's limitations has made me more confident in my own abilities. Even at a student level, there are many things I can do well and even better than AI. At the very least, I understand things like fingers, wrists, eyes, etc. and the proportions of each.

[@layoutkimsstudio2341]

a.i makes art or any task go faster. so yeah its like having a force multiplier, much cheaper too so companies be firing a bunch of ppl. As an artist i say life is a struggle but what a fun life it is. the freakin rush u get in creating something is simply unbeatable.

[@paulhiggins5165]

I don't think blaming artists for being discourged by AI Art is very useful here- it would be bizzare if artists were not discourged by the emergence of a technology that seems able to do in minutes what it might take them hours or days to achieve. A more helpful approach might be to actually look at what AI Art can do well and what it can't do well. I would encourage any artist concerned about this to take a look at two online galleries- the first being the AI Art section of Deviant Art and the second being the home page gallery on Artstation, where most of the art is human made. If you do this you will see that while both galleries feature a lot of Sci Fi and Fantasy images in a wide range of styles they are not interchangeable, they are different. This matters because it should not be possible- after all, most of the AI Art generators were trained on Artstation's galleries- so in theory a gallery of AI generated Art should be indistiguishable from a gallery of human made art, but that's not what we see- what we see is that the AI made art has it's own 'look'- and by this I do not mean 'style'- I mean something more subtle. When a human artist creates an image he does not begin with a random pattern of pixels and set about imposing order on that chaos, which is how AI Art is made. What a Human Artist does above all is think- he thinks about the subject matter, he thinks about the composition, he thinks about the meaning and the message he wants his work to convey- and having done that he then thinks about how to use light and form and atmosphere and viewpoint and color and gesture and many other things- all in the service of realising his vision and intent. So making art that works is not really a motor skill- it's not really even about technique or finish- the oldest art in the world was crudely painted on the walls of caves thousands of year ago-but no one looking at those paintings would ever question their clarity or intent. Making Art that works is above all about thinking- and the one thing that AI art generators cannot do is think. The thing is, when we look at a piece of AI Art we can be so impressed by what's there that we overlook what is not there- yes AI's can produce some technically impressive images, with excellent technique and very slick presentation- but now consider what is not present in these images, what is missing. And the answer is narrative- most AI Art has nothing to say to us beyond it's glossy surface presentation- which is not really surprising because- to be fair to the AI- it really has nothing it wants to say anyway. AI Art Generators are like every other computer programme- they are problem solving machines. All the AI cares about is generating an image that matches in content as closely as possible the prompt it has been fed- so the prompt is the problem- and the resulting image is the solution. And as a well behaved problem solving machine the AI will seek the shortest and most efficient route to a solution. But note- the problem the machine is trying to solve is not how to tell the best and most compelling story- it does not care about that- all it tries to do is generate an image that ticks the series of boxes laid down by the prompt. So we can understand from this that Human Artists and AI Art generators are trying to do very different things. When a human artist is given a brief he is not simply concerned with how he can take the shortest possible route from the words of that brief to a final image- this is not his primary concern. What the human artist cares about is how he can fulfil not just the letter of the brief but the SPIRIT of the brief- the human artist understands that what their client really wants from the final image is not just 'eye candy', not just a well made image but an image that encapsulates the meaning and the narrative that they need that image to convey. So the thing that is NOT there when we look at Galleries of AI generated art has nothing at all to do with art in the narrow sense- it's something that you cannot point to directly as being absent. But despite this intangability we still feel it's absence. When people say that AI art is 'souless' or lacking in some way it is this absence of narrative awareness that they are talking about- there is no 'story' to these images- just an endless parade of technically accomplished pictures 'full of sound and fury and signifying nothing' as the bard said- a tale told by idiot. I don't think this is a solvable problem with current AI Technology- I see no prospect that AI Art generators can be made to understand the subtle relationships between light, color, composition, gesture, tonal value ect ect- all of the tools used by human artists to inject narrative into their creations. In the theatre this process is called 'staging' and I could probably have saved myself a lot of typing by simply stating at the outset that AI Art machines are shit at staging- they do not have a clue how to express narrative and meaning in their outputs. The consequnce of all this is that AI Art is a bit like the empty honey pot from Winnie the Poo- the more you look inside, the more the honey is not there. AI art ultimately fails to satisfy not because it's bad art- some of it is very good art- but that is not enough- humans are above all creatures of narrative- we are obsessed by meaning and story. Anyone who has walked into a room where aTV has been left playing and within moments found themsleves captured by the ongoing drama unfolding on the screen- despite the fact that they have no idea what is going on- can attest to the fact that narrative is deeply important to humans. So my prediction is this- there will be an inital period in which AI Art is seen as a 'solution' by commercial buyers of Art. Because the inability of these machines to convey narrative effectively is obscured by their technical brilliance. But given the fact that most people who commission artwork are not only seeking something decorative but also something that expresses the narrative they wish to convey I further predict a growing disatisfaction with the outputs of these machines- furthermore while the machines can output a wide range of styles they all share the same identical flaw- this is why- despite the apparant diversity of AI Art- it still has a unique visual 'tell'- we tend to know it when we see it. We feel the absence of that storyteller behind the image. In my view the long term fate of AI Art is to be assimilated by artists as a useful but limited technology- to be deployed as part of their process- that process being the creation of images that tell a meaningful story in which technique and presentation serve that narrative, not try to replace it.

[@bake-io1cf]

editing some AI images is not a very good future , those positions won't pay good at all and one person is gonna be hired to do the work previously was done by many

[@Projekt0_]

I think we also need stronger unions and connections as a group. We do have TAG(the animation guild) but they only have 6k representing them. The art industry CARRIED most media for the entirety of the pandemic. Its honestly saddening to see us be devalued so much. Even though art is EXTREMELY marketable. And I feel as though if we had a union, regulations would've prevented our intellectual property and peoples content being stolen on mass. I don't believe we're anywhere near the destruction of the art industry, but I do believe we deserve a whole lot more.

[@nikolnorthwind]

I recommend The Art Mentor videos too. He has an interesting take on prompt operator progs and the nature of their operators.

[@Ahlra]

I appreciate the tone of this video. I'm fortunate to have tuned out of social media for self development well before ai, and it's still scary and deserving of awe.

[@danrend4986]

AI images are not art. i should all artists should push forward to establish that concept straight. Art is product of human experiences, of feelings, etc. Also legislation to set a fair ground, meaning that you art is yours and protected from getting steal by big tech corporations.

[@bake-io1cf]

No but in practice it still replaces real people doing real jobs. They don't care about semantics

[@danrend4986]

@@bake-io1cf why should they care if you yourselves are the first onew who don´t care. in this life one of the artists duties is to make people care about things, some are already fighting that way, and i see great progress.

[@user-bq8pi5ck5k]

thanks !!!

[@TheOpytimusEX]

Well for myself, i already took my next steps. Gonna leave this industry as soon as i can, i am already back studying for something else completely different, and i happy for having something to work and strive for the future. And because of that i have been pretty excited for something in a very long time. My mentality is right now is that it's useless trying to run against the tide. Of course, for some it will work, but for the vast majority, it's going to be such a waste of time, physical and mental health. For those that wish to continue, i hope for you all the best truly. But me, personally, i am already over it. It might still take sometime until i am able to make this transition, but once i get what i want i am out. It will be so worth it, work with something i know i can build a future on, moreover make art for myself and others just for the sake of it, zero pressure, that's a dream for me right now =D

[@Cellardoor_]

But AI will/can theoretically affect all jobs. What job are you pivoting to that is AI proof? That is few and far between. And even before AI, the art industry was already hard for the majority to get into anyway. As it stands, AI cannot replace artists, it literally makes no sense unless studios want to make their jobs harder. Whatever "doom scenario" you have can apply to any human-operated job. If anything, human creativity is the least replicable model for AI. Just because AI art generation is a thing doesn't mean anything. It's been years and the technology is already starting to plateau.

[@PutineluAlin]

I couldn't see a hypocrite example than this, advising people to think on the longer term instead of daily posting then advertising skillshare and social media for daily posting. Tnx but no tnx. Those mixed messages only means for me to look at you're actions than what you say.

[@augustiar]

Hey bro, thank you! Your advice really helpful for me.

[@TylerEdlin84]

Glad to hear that!

[@rkneegordon6316]

We can't stop what's coming, only adapt. WE used to draw on paper or canvas. Now we draw on screens. I'm 52 years old and rebuilding my art skills, to rekindle a dream of being a professional artist. Thank you and others for the encouraging words. Thanks Tyler.

[@veneficarius]

i think this crisis or layoffs are everywhere not only in art community - i belive the problem started while pandemic and lockdown started now we can see the results of this "reset" or problems created because of lockdowns , plus i guess its nature of global markets that are like waves - ups and downs , so its better to brace and wait , dont give up, try to be better maybe find some side hustle - art was never a "stable career"

[@pickledshoe]

Thanks man it was getting to me again I just need to stay in my lane and focus on my passions

[@carpetfire3060]

Hi Tyler, thanks for making these videos, I always feel better about AI Art after I watch your videos because it reminds me where all in this together ! One thing AI Art can't do is show the art process of creating a great image, starting from the rough thumbnail, to the sketching phase, to the polishing the sketch phase, then the lighting, rendering etc. We have amazing imaginations, and we can create stuff that will attract everyone the same way as our art did before. Just because a computer made it doesn't mean its a better image. No imagination went into it, likely it won't be able to come up with as interesting an image, or an image to really spark emotion, then a human artist would. I say to stay positive and embrace the parts of art, AI will never be able to duplicate.

[@thegigio3724]

Thanks for this beautiful message, it gives hope:)

[@EDGE_ART]

Thanks for the video Tyler... always enjoy your content. I have a few thoughts about AI... I don't think AI will in general replace people or artists. There are things AI can do pretty good and pretty fast, some but only a few are useful, some, but most are useless. I definitely see good use for AI in specific areas like in the medical field e.g. for research, evaluation of image material etc.. and we already use AI in many filed. In art... well, AI only uses stuff that is already there, as it farmed the whole internet and all images available and mix it ...anyway. AI creates a lot of useless shit, because it's using a lot of "useless" stuff and it's not aware of it because there is no intelligence involved...nore is it in most people who are using AI, most are no artist or have the skills and the eye of an artist...to be fair "some" have it and there might be some value in using AI for inspiration for a professional concept artist (A professional would never post it as a piece of art though.!!! And btw it will get worse because AI is using more and more stuff created by AI. The point is... AI is good at a lot of thing which are absolutely useless for e.g. the industry (like game or film), because it does not solve any problems. Yes... some AI art "looks" cool... but again useless!!! it's just a dumb algorythm. It can't create the same thing from different angles, adjustment in detail are not possible, exept an artist does the adjustment. Ask AI to explain how a vehicle it created works and what the specific feature are!?! Good luck!! However... I think artist should keep doing what they love...for example... AI does portraits very well, because the internet is full of portraits which AI is using. Should you stop painting portraits... NO, if you enjoy it. And people will rather pay you for a commissions than promting an AI model, because the AI result has no value or meaning. The work of an artist will always have value!!!!.... and as of aspiring concept artist....they should do what AI can't... do "concept art" and solve problems instead of painting landscapes with a tower or a spaceship and a small dude in front of it and you will get work! You see these images a lot on the internet, also from professionals, but they do it for fun. It's probably only 1% of the work a concept artist in the production pipeline has to do..... also... maybe we should stop sharing our work daily on platforms that will get farmed by AI companies. I get it, if you are looking for "likes" or try to build a fanbase... you might need it. If you are looking for work... not so much! We might need platforms which are unaccessable for AI companies or systems that will make our images useless for AI, definitely laws that will stop these companies to steal work from others to train AI models. If they have to pay artists to provide food for AI models you will see lots of these models disapear as there is less profit. For those people who claim AI will provide a bright future where people don't have to work anymore and are able to just enjoy life.... well...I have no words... sorry...get help!!

[@Houdini_Bob]

I keep saying AI can make art but it cannot CREATE art. I can go to Tyler or Trent Kaniuga or Adam Duff and say create me something in your style and from your imagination, the only input I'll give is I like SciFi and fantasy. I know I'll get something entirely new, something unique. AI cannot do this and will not be able to do this for a long time to come.

[@-Tulin-enjoyer]

I needed this…thank you.

[@grimsonforce7504]

Thank you for addressing the fear mongering. This happens every single time something "new" comes out. The only way AI wins is if people let it. AI is here to stay but that doesn't mean the end of art.

[@TheINDIJANAC]

Thank you again for everything!

[@paulaneves1819]

truth as always falls somewhere in the middle. these videos and comments/conversations are great for keeping us connected to the human element that is at the heart of all good art. i think AI is a tool, but yeah, as some folks here have pointed out, if artists had more control over their "industries" then maybe we could keep AI more in check as a tool, and not as a replacement for us. but i don't know. cuz money changes everything...

[@firos_kofi6608]

Ai will never replace human artists. We understand better ideas and concepts. You can tell if an image was AI generated or not just by looking at it 5s. And that kind of visual approach, even when it looks pretty good, has a net value of 0. It's just references, like pinterest and such. Artists are crying rn in all plataforms abut AI. Tbh, we are not serving AI, AI is a tool to serve us, but no one seems to catch that point. Also I think it's easier to say ''focus on doing art you love'' when you already made it. If an artist is struggling to get money, I don't think it's a good thing to say. I'm gonna create and draw until I become so good people will buy me. That's the kind if mindset you have to have in order to live of art. There are exceptions, yes. But for most of us, we need to create GOOD VISUAL PRODUCTS in order to get sales. And that requires practice. Hours of pain. Hustling in art is not always lovely. But you have to embrace the pain of disconfort, grind and get better. If you only draw when you feel like drawing, you will not get better. You will fail. If you see art as a carreer, you must put the necesary inputs. The hours.

[@seiji_senpai]

I laugh when you said you got laid off, because it happened to me too when i was first starting 😂 so true brother, this thing is not a stable job, but we do it because of passion

[@__se7entin__]

thank you for your video as always. just one question or request. it may seem stupid to ask, but i really don't understand what a "junior" level in digital art is and how's it different than senior level. could you please explain it one day? thank you so much, keep up with this amazing channel

[@TylerEdlin84]

More comes down to experience. A senior artist will be given more difficult/ complex tasks and even guide the less experienced artist. Junior level artist portfolios tend to look a bit different, a bit more y tye book because they don’t have a careeers worth of imagery to select from.

[@imnugget8085]

We ve replace and be called a.i Editor/ a.i management

[@jpmarques5866]

Thanks for this video, seriously.

[@TylerEdlin84]

My pleasure!

[@xmcxii]

so its over for single people

[@lemonpie1425]

With or without AI, corporates will let go off people for their own benefits. 😂

[@Demogoorl]

Thank you

[@fumansiu]

So basically the animatronic wall fish, big mouth billy bass, had it right the whole time?

[@JourneyXProductions]

Theres a massive difference between Industry and independent artist. Acourse there's a grind. I'm not going to give it up working towards being a full time job. Stop making the excuse for AI.

[@AtrusDesign]

I agree I personally use AI as a tool, but it can’t do more than this, be a tool. It’s e good “toy” to create nice art for free, or to find some ideas, but true art, pro field, is another thing…

[@bake-io1cf]

you are already devaluing your job if you use AI to make it easier and faster , it lowers the bar and drives prices down

[@marek_tarnawski]

I hoped to get inspired but I god Skillshare advertisement instead. Back to my industry standard production pipeline :)

[@TylerEdlin84]

Do what you have to do man!

[@marek_tarnawski]

@@TylerEdlin84 But seriously... I consider moving fully into 3d or becoming tech artist. At the moment that sounds reasonable to me. Long term I would like to work for myself more but this one is easier said than done. Whatever goes I'll keep drawing because it's enjoyable (especially traditional).

[@noiJadisCailleach]

I wish all the biggest players, famous or non-famous, would start a union movement to push heavier AI use regulations harder. Writers are getting some wins with their strike. Why can't we have an "Artists strike", too? Small artists have no choice because the next paycheck means the next time food can be put on the table. The more fortunate ones have more luxury who can either - elevate their skills and beat A.I. in this race, or flip the board and not let A.I. join the race in the first place. "But every single one of us is Capitalisms' bitch." - Yes, i know. But is it really so hard to do that? Is it really that challenging to look out for each others' backs? This is more frustrating to me than A.I. taking over. A.I. will come harder because it's here already, no doubt about it. But it feels like as it's taking over, people are looking out for themselves even more, instead of the opposite. Even the ones who potentially has the power to unite us. Classic divide and conquer strategy. It's super effective. And we're doing our enemies' work for them all too eagerly, it seems.

[@Netvvork118]

the 34 dislikes are from (de)generative ai

[@HeribertSew]

Yess!

[@kinginyellow3100]

Instead of doing it for some money your doing it for almost free. And getting your art used against you unless you use idk glaze

[@veigroeg]

My opinion is that art will go back to the times before it became a job. The industry will start using more and more AI, and even if you are an working artist, you will do mostly overpaints over generated images. Which is not a fun job. The need for so many artist will disappear, however there will be always individuals with great skills and visions that will create amazing artwork, that people are willing to spend money for

[@heroiam4067]

Can you explain which “times” are you talking about specifically? Is it before the middle ages?

[@veigroeg]

@@heroiam4067 no sarcastic comments are needed. But the times I am referring are much sooner - like end of 19th century

[@Saf_Ibn_Sayyad_Bacon]

Yes artists can be replaced 😊because a lot suck at comissions

[@nichtrelevant2777]

In the future, AI can do much more than just replace artists' work. To say that this is not possible is, from a scientific point of view, serious nonsense. This could provide a bright future in which people don't have to work and there are enough resources for everyone. But for this to happen, all people would have to learn to share. I want to say if humanity manages to evolve then Ai can be a powerful tool like fire. This has little to do with the concerns of artists in our current times, but simply saying Ai can't replace us is wrong and stupid. That doesn't mean that art made by humans won't find its way or that AI should necessarily do the work of artists.

[@bake-io1cf]

stupid take , it just mean everyone will be poor except some tech trillionaires

[@SenTheDoodle]

I’d argue that AI generated images are less valuable than real art made by humans because if anyone can just type a bunch of keywords and get cool image, wouldn’t that just make it lose worth? Art made by humans is much more valuable because of the true time and effort it took to make that, AI generated images are easy to make, but thats what makes less valuable than real art. In short, he reason why real art is more valuable than AI generated images is because anyone can make an image using AI by just typing a few keywords, but not everyone can actually draw it.

[@SenTheDoodle]

“I’m not gonna read allat” Ok fine. Summary time: AI “art” is less valuable than real art because anyone can type keywords to make an image with AI, not everyone can draw though.

[@bfkgod]

I think Art will change. Soon, we will be expected to work in collaboration with AI. For example, we could use AI to take our sketches from sketch to rendered instantly, etc.

[@bake-io1cf]

completely devalues the work and makes a lot of the workforce redundant

[@bfkgod]

​@@bake-io1cf yes but that's the price of AI. And we can't just make AI disappear now, it's already here. So we gotta use it to our advantage right?

[@bake-io1cf]

@@bfkgod There is no advantage

[@chaoticcherryvt]

I really appreciate this video and took many points from it. The only thing I heavily disagree on is "doing art is not a privilege" yes it is. It's true that you can create art with pencil and paper alone and you don't need any fancy tools, but someone who is poor and fighting for their life not only cannot afford those things, but also they don't have the time or the energy for that. If they don't get treated for their physical or mental issues, it will hinder them in anything they may want to do. Some work their ass off 70+ hours a week with shit pay just to survive, because there aren't other jobs in their area. Some communities don't even have access to drinking water, electricity or internet. So yes, creating art IS a privilege which I am grateful for having.

[@gozu9455]

"Great artists steal" ai is a great artist

[@EldritchUniverse]

This is delusional, shallow and borderline useless feel-good-advice. It's actually quite distasteful to be this nonchalant about a very serious topic if not crisis. AI is having an insanely negative impact not only on the art industry but also other industries where creativity plays a big role. The company I work for has fired over 25 people so far and more are fighting for the future right now. The rest is encouraged to actively use AI to increase the output. AI people have been hired to directly develop and push AI workflows in the company. Feng Zhu has recently made few videos on the topic which show in how much trouble a lot of artists are. He seems positive about the future of artists due to things AI can't do. But his arguments only encapsulate concept art. If you are a mere illustrator with plenty of technical skill but no imagination, then you will absolutely get left in the dirt by AI art. Because why hire you for something when they can just use AI and get a similar or better result than what you would have been able to come up with in a longer timeframe and for money. And then they just polish up the ugly hands. And this in particular remains an issue across the board. Ubisoft, EA and Activision will drop your ass at the speed of light if that saves (makes) them more money. And smaller studios either don't have the money to hire every artist or they are simply not bothered about 100% anatomically correct products for their little indie games. Thanks to AI now everyone can attempt their own stuff. No one needs to hire artists anymore. Want portraits for your Dungeons & Dungeon group? Why hire an artist if Midjourney can give you decent results for 10 bucks? Artists are in a world of trouble and it will only get worse. The best thing people can actually do is to become more social and vocal and start selling themselves and their ideas instead of just their technical skill. Build a community and give the community what they want. The easiest way to make money is to offer people a product they want to buy. And if that's creating a world and selling prints and shirts then that's that. The art industry is changing and artists need to adapt otherwise they'll soon be flipping burgers. And to a creative person, doing retail jobs is like being a lion in a cage.

[@TylerEdlin84]

What are you going to do about? What are your next steps?

[@calebfairchild3247]

Not the commenter but its inspired me to create my own things. Not just my own art obviously but my own games, as difficult as it may be

[@soadisashit]

True

[@yurig.7120]

@@TylerEdlin84 Got layed-off last year by the indie company I worked as Concept/Illustrator for about 1.5y because of early adoption of GenAI there. My boss didn't even asked the department if we would like to integrate AI to boost productivity. Just ended the Concept Art department, and outsourced some random guy in the company to do Midjourney prompts. I saw that coming some months earlier due to some informal chats, so I was able to prepare mentally, but still a shit situation. After that, I did some soul search, and I decided to give a chance on trying to learn programming and go full indie. I've been doing it for the past 10 months, and nearly finishing a prototype in a universe I'm creating and passionated about. My country recently got new funds for game development, and I'll give it a shot later this year. Let's see how it goes. To sum, I got really burnt on doing portfolio pieces to try to land a job with someone that at a blink of an eye would let me go (the studio is hiring people from other departments, just imploded the illustration/concept branch). However, I'm really pumped to wake up early everyday to work on my own game! Cheers.

[@fumansiu]

I like to remind people that it is not magic. Ai is not sentient and it is being trained to guess the next pixel, word etc based on our guidelines and input. CAPTCHA was us training the image algorithms to recognize pixel data in images to identify objects. $10 a month subs to mid journey is us training the algorithm to deliver to us what we like with more accuracy. It’ll probably be introduced into social media so we can be fed our preferred “liked” content. At the end of the day, so what. Are you gonna stop painting because corporate media can give you unlimited iron spider Thor goku luffy on repeat with that Pokémon drip feed of beauty and the beast 50054 starring Tom chalecruise walker? Honestly who cares. The algorithm art is cracked out high sugar content and sometimes I just wanna look at some simple watercolors. Just gonna leave this soapbox over here for a while, my legs are shakin’

[@n3r0n3]

Of course AI can replace us, let's stop lying to ourselves. And this is not because AI became too good but because we became more and more predictable. We could say in a way we became AI. But AI in itself is just good for art, it's an incentive to finally do better again, to get back into being creative, looking for uniqueness and new techniques. Now the problem is whether the system allows us to do so because u can be Michelangelo but in 2024 you have 1 week to produce your sistine chapel... as a designer just yesterday I produced 2 reports and a map. As an illustrator I created 10 illustrations this month in 2 days, not 2 months. So the problem here IS NOT AI. AI is great!

[@bake-io1cf]

Find new techniques and ideas, and inmediatly they will be used to train AI to do it too

[@Noordledoordle]

You can't outrun AI. Any new ideas, any cool new concepts - they'll be fed into the meat grinder.

[@williammclean6594]

Can you stop it with skillshare it's absolutely useless. It's paid KZbin

[@dreamsprayanimation]

Cope

[@peckerdecker]

*ai* is *fantastic* The past ten to fifteen years - there's tons of _average stuff_ churned out by these so called *professional artists* . Look at *contemporary Hollywood*! *Pure utter drivel* These movie makers are charging you and me to pay for their trash that a primary school toddler can do. Look at the amazing stuff shared on KZbin. *A regular person* using their bog *standard smartphone* can *tell and make a better story* than these highly paid Hollywood professionals. If you have *GENUINE skills* & you have *creativity * - your gonna strive. Simple as that. Thank you.

[@bake-io1cf]

you are not creating anything using AI. its just plagiarism for people who can create

[@LeogenArt]

Tyler are u single? 😅

[@gitbuh12345qwerty]

i am an artist using ai and painting and sculpting and coding and unreal and custom software and lots more. pretty sure i will replace you.

[@heroiam4067]

I’m pretty sure you’ll stay forever in mom’s basement cos you actually need to be specialized and have skills to enter this industry lol If you are “everything” it means you have no skillset and you’re pretty much worthless for any industry, sorry to break it to you. There’s still Mcdonalds for you tho, so don’t worry.

[@bake-io1cf]

you are not an artist

[@RM-xr8lq]

ai art is art for the greedy people who are actually worried about their job and income (so not art), maybe do some research first.... automation and its effects on labor is a centuries old topic. thinking your problems stem from math innovation is a little pathetic especially when you start regurgitating right-wing think tanks pushing for DRM and limited API access to secular and open information (which they are labeling as "ai regulation")

[@TylerEdlin84]

Hey I don’t make the labels I’m just telling you how it is.

[@user-qm3eg5yo6n]

No it isn't. You don't even know the definition of art.