After a month or two mine has stopped working. It's stuck in Standby mode and nothing I do in the app can connect to it via Bluetooth, even though I have it paired and connected, and even if I push the button on the tracker.... and it's fully charged. This thing pretty much is a POS. SInce the GPS Helium function as a GPS tracker was useless since the Helium Network cratered, I thought I could at least use the Bluetooth proximity location function of it to work like an air tag, so I put it on my keychain. Nope, it didn't last.

I can't figure it out - is there anything new with the pro product? The bullet points seem the same. They haven't sent one to me fwiw. Yeah $5 is a little bit much. I always think of trackers in terms of their annual costs. Previously it was $20-30 per year. I'd really have to think on it if it raises to $60.

Oh no. That sounds terrible. I saw the Crypto one - is that something they only sell in europe? Bleh. Too late to return and just get a normal cellular one?

Oh wow. Care to say where you got it? I let my subscription lapse because they increased the annual subscription cost. I will probably renew it soon, assuming my battery is still alive after sitting dead for a couple months.

@@batterybikesI found it on ebay a few days ago, and when I saw the 3 year subscription included, I was like... for real? You could get it with 3 years instead of 1. So I lunged at it, because even if it was a misprint on the box, it still seemed a good deal. I don't run my motorbike with insurance or tags or even a title on the bike, so it seemed like my alternative to insurance... if anyone stole my bike, I was recovering it myself, as I don't go to the police for anything. Now that I own it, I'm like meh... I don't know if it's really worth $40 a year after my 3 year subscription runs out, even though I bought it all for $35. The reason is maybe I drive my bike ever 2 weeks to fetch groceries, so that works out to $40 for 25 trips a year, or about 1.50 per trip. I spend about that much on gas per trip, so I'm spending as much eventually on this gps tracker as I would on gas. Is it really worth it then? Not for me as a very infrequently motorcycle rider, even if I ride year round to fetch groceries. Anyway, to answer you question, I guess I just lucked out on ebay. But apparently, yeah, 3 year versions are out there in the wild. Mine was probably I'm guessing an Amazon return? Unregistered an unopened? It says 3 years on the back of the box and registered just fine... Get yourself a heavy 100 or 120 strength chain, some Abloy 340B locks, and hide some $7 raaapealarms on your bike with pull pins and fishline tied to the chain so if anyone messes with your chain, it pulls the pin out and sets off the alarm. That's what I plan to do. Multiple hidden levels of security to snag an unware theif in a hurry and wanting to make this an uneventful smash and grab. Slow them down, freak them out, maybe they run away to a softer target. If they steal you bike, track them down and just steal it back lol.

@@batterybikesOh, now I see why this is so cheap. They don't use cell towers, they use the Helium Network, which uses Lorah, which is nowhere near as much coverage as cellphone coverage... which is everywhere. Helium coverage seems to be only in big cities... but out in the sticks... looking at their map... nothing.

@@batterybikesI got it off ebay. But before you buy one, look at the Helium network coverage map. Basically, your bike ends around a big city like New York, Atlanta, Chicago, Cincinnaiti, Dallas, etc... you're likely to get a fix. But if it's taken out in the stix countryside anywhere to a chop shot or someone's back yard, forget it. It appears only to do bluetooth or Helium... not cell phone coverage... if you take your smart phone in your pocket with you on your bike, with bluetooth turned, so it will give you the false illusion it's getting cell phone coverage everywhere, but really it's working off your phone when it's out of range of Helium which is like I said... everywhere that is not near a first, second, or third tier city in a state. Better than nothing, but not what I was thinking it was... using the massive cellphone network.

Yeah, a bit slower than I'd like, but I have seen that. I wish Bosch/Bafang/Shimano would all just integrate Find My so we wouldn't have to wait for bike manufacturers to trickle implement it. I like the Invoxia too. I feel like after the last round of subscription increases I need to re-evalute though. Yeah definitely. I think calling the police and saying my bike has a built in GPS was a bit more convincing than telling them there was an Airtag in it. But it's also been a while.

I haven't tried em. I dread hearing car alarms go off and just sorta add more noise to cities. I sorta doubt they stop most thieves and it sounds like one more thing to recharge. If you do end up getting one let me know how it goes.

I need to do a re-eval. I really just want my next ebike to have something integrated. I haven't tried/tested the Bosch setup. But I'm hoping that works well so I don't have to worry about keeping it charged. The Invoxia isn't perfect, none of them are, but it might still be the best on the market. The main thing I think about is tracking ability + cost over say, 2 or 3 years. Invoxia just raised their annual fee and I'm not sure if it's still worth it. There are a bunch of alternatives that are cheaper, but the monthly fees are so high it's not worth it.

yeah - super grateful. I hope he's still a cop!

I'm not sure, and I'm not sure I have a way to test this out. I only have a single phone active at the moment. My guess is it would work fine. I think most of the logic lives on invoxia's server so I think two phones connecting to the same GPS would work fine as long as you use the same invoxia account. I'm sure you could reach out to them through customer support etc and they could let you know.

Sorry west. It's a loop! I had a little summary but I just found the loop more satisfying than the mini paragraph at the end

I think in the US, checking for bicyclists is the exception rather than the rule. Definitely no victim blaming here. Cars blow. But until infrastructure changes for bicyclists, we need to stay clear of doors. Of course, city planners should design responsibly and avoid overlapping car doors with bike lanes.

@@batterybikes yeah, you are probably right. Sorry for my hard initial tone.