In terms of states in Australia, I believe Victoria is the only one but don't quote me on that. Hook turns do exist elsewhere around the world but I'm not sure where. Yes, this type of turn could be stressful for drivers coming from interstate - that's why I created this video, in the hope it can help people understand this type of turn. 🙏🏾

It's all about the conditions. We can't always do the speed limit due to various reasons, but when it's possible and safe we could be at the speed limit.

Yes, they will impede left turning traffic. I guess for the CBD - trams require priority so some of the hook turns allow for that. However, they have introduced hook turns into the Carlton (inner-city) suburb where there are no trams! I'm not sure this was necessary. So far I haven't seen too many issues like left turning traffic being impeded. You mentioned "we're not allowed to queue in intersections", the same applies in Victoria. Thanks for your comment. :)

Thanks for your thoughts, James. Signage might help but I personally think the marking should just be removed. The other side of the intersection has two lanes and both have no markings!

this is the attitude that needs to change. 20 kays under is fine if the conditions call for it, which can be a number of things from weather to traffic and the drivers skill levels. Hell, their familiarity with the road plays a factor. Ive had people get mad at me for doing 20 under while i was driving a 3.5 tonne van (work related) through narrow streets lined both sides with cars that i have never been on. Youre not the only road user and everyones skill, confidence and judgement is different. Keep that in mind the next time youre tailgating or road raging at someone for driving within these considerations.

It's all about the conditions. If someone is blatantly going slower for no good reason then obviously that isn't right. I had to move house recently and had a van fully loaded. I had to slow down earlier and take corners much slower than in my performance car, yet everyone around me got annoyed. I think a little thought and empathy needs to be had before people make judgements. Regardless of all this, I have been behind people driving slower for no reason and should be driving faster because the conditions suit it. I think in regard to drivers skill levels - if they are a learner or probationary driver then there should be some sympathy for them but a full licenced driver should be able to handle themselves well - if not, maybe they need some lessons?

@@MntlMajorkozmo I drive to my dad's on a road where there are a million Sunday drivers, often old and inconsiderate. Multiple times (on one specific bend) people will drive 40 in a 60, slow to 10 MPH or sometimes a dead stop, then creep round a massive country road corner, then speed up to 40, and continue doing 40 in a 20 zone. Being a bend, I don't attempt an overtake, but that's the kind of behaviour I'm on about. 40 everywhere, regardless of road conditions.

Cheers. The ones that enter the freeway and don't get up to speed can be very dangerous! 😬

Thank you. :) 100% on confidence and ability - this is why driving lessons and learning to drive with the right educator is imperative! Many novice drivers naturally when first learning to drive are not confident in how slow or fast they should be travelling according to the conditions. They tend to slow down too early or not enough, or drive at a speed which doesn't suit the road. Basically their ability to control the vehicle can be erratic... At some point throughout their training experience with me, they learn how to truly feel and drive the vehicle at the appropriate speed according to the conditions. 🙏🏾

Tourists would certainly get confused by this. I guess that's where these videos can hopefully help.

When this happened, I could see the person in the drivers seat in my second internal mirror - they looked dazed and very tired.

A few certainly think this way!

Yes, it certainly helps with the flow of trams. Certainly not perfect and many don't understand it.

Seems that way!

100%. I showcase this near the end of the video. I think people either don't know or just don't care. What we do, is when the traffic light directly in front of us turns amber, we start rolling ever so slowly to create the momentum to then go when the light turns green on the road we are turning into. Rather than being completely stopped to immediately moving. This can sometimes help with stopping people from behind beeping and is much better for flow. And of course, being highly aware of who is behind us before committing with a right mirror and head check. 🙏🏾

@@CRUDEDriving I suspect that most are ignorant but I am aware that some of the illuminated hook turn signs have a wait flashing signal that drivers are ignoring so it could be a don't care attitude. But good tip, I will employ it and see if that helps.

Definitely! When I was driving in Germany a few years back, I saw some amazing lane discipline from almost every single truck driver I saw. 🙏🏾

Yes, entirely from my vehicles terrible quality dash cam (front & rear). Definitely different behaviour with the plates up, but there were many without the plates which was just me driving and the level of behaviour doesn't get any better! 😅 What you see in this compilation is not even half of what I have. I wish I had more good footage but the bad is so constant. I hope to make a dash cam compilation of good behaviour, it just might take me longer to collate the footage.

That was actually pretty funny, despite it being used inappropriately

This was certainly an interesting and humorous one!

Yeah, that one was ridiculous! We had just turned into the street so it wasn't like they were following us for a while or anything. They literally turned into the street, flew up behind us and went around immediately.

Yes that is correct. Many drivers may already be doing this technique. We obviously have to teach it and therefore explain what it is. Students don't really know it when they first start learning. FYI, it's spelt "braking", not "breaking." Cheers for your comment. 🙏🏾

@@CRUDEDriving Thanks for the correction, appreciate it -- *braking

I brake with my left foot, it's far safer because right foot power left foot stopping. There's never the chance of hitting the wrong pedal like an old fart in a shopping centre, and I can brake instantly.

Back when I did a defensive driving course, we were taught to switch to left foot for brakes, right foot for accelerator, instead right foot for both accelerator and brakes. Hence, I am usually always brake shadowing.

I brake with my left foot on a race track but I won't do it on public roads and I won't teach it due to the complexities around it. I also drive manual often and teach manual sometimes. I have some friends who left foot brake and I guess if you can safely drive with left foot braking, it's fine.

What American terms are we using that you want us to stop using?

Before approaching the intersection, if there are already vehicles inside and we cannot fit beyond the pedestrian crossing in-front of us, then we should not enter the intersection and wait back for the next cycle of traffic lights. Hope this helps. :)

Excellent point! In this video we couldn't safely or legally do that.

I completely understand that and agree with you on the variable speed limit. Maybe we can get this changed?

@ that would be great. And where there aren’t ramp lights, the speed limit sign at the START of every on-ramp in the state. Please. Then, while I’m on a roll, please make the first sign in a speed zone look different from all the repeater signs - eg like an orange border around the sign, or if it’s an illuminated sign have the circle flashing (and if it’s a lower limit than normal for that road have little yellow flashing lights as well).

100% it's much safer to go with the flow of traffic rather than being that one person sitting on or a dot under holding everyone up and getting road raged.

I understand where you're coming from and if everyone is going faster then maybe the speed limit for that road needs to be reviewed. The particular road in this video needs to have a variable speed limit sign. It's 60 km/h for when the filtered traffic lights are active up ahead but in this video they are not active so the 60 km/h speed limit isn't necessary.

I'm more surprised that it's a Victorian road surface that doesn't look like a bombed airfield from WW2

I find Australia speed limits for HGVs to be a little bit bonkers it's good that your explaining your car speedo is over reporting and why the hgv can overtake you (if using waze it shows actual speed constantly, I also use a GPS speed hud as well) but for passing your driving test yes you have to use your car speedo even if it's out by 3% (witch is quite a lot at higher speeds)

​@@leexgx thanks. It's important they understand the inaccuracy of their vehicles speed limit to adjust and keep up the flow. What do you find bonkers about the AUS speed limits for HGVs?

@@CRUDEDriving that they can do speeds of cars on highways/motorways (limited to 56mph in the UK) usually if we see a car going slower then HGV the car driver is going way to slow

Cheers for that, I didn't know.

Where are you from and what rule book are you referring to? In this scenario, the bicycle lane ends and the black car drives past that lane and into the intersection/junction to turn left. The rule in Victoria, Australia (Road Safety Road Rules 2017) is Rule 141(2) - The rider of a bicycle or an electric scooter must not ride past, or overtake, to the left of a vehicle that is turning left and is giving a left change of direction signal. In this video, I'd say the last few cyclists were required to adhere to that rule. However, we need to be mindful of more vulnerable road users regardless of the rules. 🙏🏾

@CRUDEDriving I'm in Victoria and I'm referring the 2016 Road to Solo Driving book. I've checked again and think I just misunderstood.. On pg. 95 it says 'if you need to turn left from the road, you may drive along the bicycle lane for up to 50m only if it is necessary to do so. You should be courteous to cyclists. You must give way to cyclists in a bicycle lane, and only move into a bicycle lane when it is safe to do so.' Then pg. 113 says 'to make a left turn you *must* approach the intersection as close to the left side of the road as possible, but give way to bicycles when crossing into the bicycle lane.' To my knowledge the book never states who actually gives way when turning left. I think I might just stick to the actual legislation 😅 Thank you for addressing these things in your videos. It's clearly invaluable!

@@katyb2793 thank you! 🙏🏾 I want to help people understand everything to share the road appropriately. Regardless of rules, I think this video is a good example of sharing the space and looking out for one another. The road to solo book is innacurate. You can find the Victorian road law legislation here: www.legislation.vic.gov.au/in-force/statutory-rules/road-safety-road-rules-2017/021 The legislation can change and the last update was 04/10/2024.

@CRUDEDriving thank you so much. Yes I agree, it's really helpful to actually see these situations, rather than just read about it. I'm so glad I've discovered the handbook might not be 100% accurate! Which is pretty shocking actually... Thanks for the link to the legislation. I'll be sticking to that from now on!

@@katyb2793 the handbook is still great but definitely don't trust everything in it. If you ever need anything at all in relation to driving, feel free to email me at [email protected] Thank you for your comments and viewership. :)

Good work, always better to look around and use mirrors. :)

Fair enough...

Thanks for the comment and question! 🙏🏾 Where will you be staying? Not exact location, but suburb? Also, where are you coming from? General driving tips: ------------------------------- - Keep a safe following time behind other vehicles of 3 seconds in good conditions. Add a few more in wet. *Why? Because you need the time to react and distance to brake. >Video on distance and following time for more clarification: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIeQZ41mjdiLn8k - Keep left where appropriate and where legal and necessary, especially on high speed multi-lane roads. By keep left we mean stay out of the far right lane unless overtaking. You can keep in the far left lane if it's possible and you a travelling straight for a while. - Headlights on low beam will reduce your risk of being involved in a collision (up to you). - At roundabouts we give way to vehicles already in the roundabout, not to the outside right of the roundabout. But, take caution and don't enter if someone is racing towards the roundabout from the outside right as they will likely enter quickly and completely ignore the rule. - Give way means to slow down and, if necessary, stop to avoid a collision. - Read the road (markings, etc) and read the signs well ahead, speed limits change constantly! - Be prepared and get on to things early, forward plan. - Drive to the conditions. Melbourne Things: ------------------------------ - Be prepared for lots of traffic Monday to Saturday from 8 am to 6 pm. - Sundays are bliss, best day to be out on the roads, most road users are calm and nice. - Road safety cameras are everywhere, for speeding and now seat belts and phones. - Give way to trams before entering their lane if you have to drive down it. - Give way to trams before turning right at a solid green traffic light. - Hook turns are now inner city and CBD, hopefully my video helped if you watched it. - Road works are everywhere. - Left lanes on freeways can tend to turn into a exit to another freeway or main road. - Melbournians drive too close to each other, keep your distance, stay away from packs of close drivers. - We have some strange roads and markings at times that confuses people. - Some speed limits do not suit the road or the conditions and could be higher or lower. - Most people are not doing the speed limit. - Police are big on speeding, drugs and alcohol. I'm sure there is plenty more - do you have any questions?

100%! Where I am from in Victoria, Australia - not many driving instructors like myself do emergency braking with students. I also take students to a country road where we do it from 80 km/h. I'd love to do it from higher speeds but we don't have the roads for it. Our driving test doesn't even involve an emergency brake whereas I believe in the UK the drive test does. I think it should be a part of training and testing everywhere! 🙏🏾