No idea why you would be DQ with them numbers. Im still a C cat, recently pushed 3.5 and 3.4wkg at 92kg and not got upgraded or dq

3.4WKG is above threshold to be C, it's that simple... so yes you are back where you rightfully belong, in B

Completely justified. It's not debatable. It's just numbers. You ride in a terrible way from a tactical perspective and thus you ended up pushing the most 20 min. w/kg in the race, above the threshold.

Cracking racing mate. The training is really paying off! I don't think you deserved to be DQ'd, hopefully you can contact the race organiser and get them to sort it out, or at least explain why🤞

People that haven’t raced much can have much higher recorded power figures, but their score is lower due to less data points. For A it works.

That David Brent cameo though ❤

legit DQ unfortunately, time to Cat up🦿 and give wilting 50+ fellas like me a chance in C 🤣

That actually happened to me in my very first zwift race. I had not done a proper FTP test before and Zwift told me I was a Cat C rider. First race I did like 3.4 Watts/KG average, got disqualified and instantly promoted to B. Since then I am a mid pack B rider, too good for C but not a chance to win in B.

Great race shame to see the DQ but mate it's time to get the Zwift steering

3.4 W'kg for 20 mins pushed you into B. Try using 'Racing Score' events to tighter competition

imagine paying for a service and getting disqualified for this when swift is full of cheaters who don't get punished, just shows they will be going out of business soon if they don't improve

You were the only person in the race who was over 3.2 watts per KG for "95% of 20" minutes, you were 3.223w/kg

You should update your ftp on Zwift by doing The Climb, a ramp test, or a 20-minute full effort. 243 FTP is way too low FTP for someone who could push 3.4 w/lkg for 20 min. 3.4 x 79 = 268.6*.95 = 255.17. Your ftp for this race was 255.17 and you were not going full gas. Your FTP is likely to be close to 270

Hi mate like someone else said you’re probably getting stronger and soon be up at B cat anyway so take it as a positive mate You rode the race well there sat in for first half then took it to the others good tactics, and it was a podium so take that great racing glad to see you back stronger 👍🫡

You dirty sandbagger!!! Haha nah that was tough luck. Good stuff on your progression! Inspiring stuff mate!

I had the same once I was C and I went to B if I am not wrong, it's when you do more than 3 races over the category power. So you should be B now?😀 You're still in the fun zone. I am trying everything to get demoted from A, it doesn't work 🤣I am at the bottom of A

to me, you looked very good la, strong, come to group B, I am not sure have the power to follow you, I am in B group race now

Well done Nothing wrong with that race. While it's up the organiser how they want to apply their rules this is more a legacy setting not working well with CE. WKG is applying DQ on your 95% 20 min power based on old ZP power bands. Organiser really should be disabling that setting as if you qualify to enter a CE event there is no reason to DQ you. It quite often gets set again for new events though as it's the default on ZP. More than likely the organiser would update the event if you give them a nudge. italian based team so probably all snoozing at this time of night. i'd try message them tomorrow.

The only thing I understand is I don't understand how all this works! lol I just thought it was if you're over 3.2wkg and you do that over a few consecutive races then you got promoted. A DQ but not getting upgraded is basically Zwift saying "yeah you've been naughty but we won't kick you out of our party yet" lol Great to see your fitness coming along Ollie!

Definately not DQ worthy, you did a great job!

Love this course. Have had a few B-grade wins here as the finish is great for the sprinters!! Up to B grade you go!!

Looking at zwiftpower, you had a distinct bump in your power curve at one minute. But there were other non DQ C's that were higher.

That makes no sense…

I had a chain drop on the same race, but a little earlier in the race (3rd time up 23rd street), meant a long lonely second half of the race.

Ridiculous, nothing wrong with your numbers and if you were over the cat threshold you’d have been upgraded to B? I’ve been beaten recently in C races by average watts of 3.6/3.7 per kg and the results stood on Zwift Power? It’s the lack of consistency that’s confusing and annoying. I kinda miss the old cone of shame that used to appear in crit city races!

Yeah right, Ollie's a sandbagger😂. Somebody must have flagged you when you were attacking. Each time I looked at the watts of the people behind you and they were just about the same as yours. I have seen in chat while training how many people are not happy with this system. You should not have been DQ'd.

I don't think that's really DQ-worthy. But, it is a signal you need to step yourself up to CAT B, mate. You'll make more progress there with deeper, longer efforts!

WKG Tag is a Zwiftpower Old Categories...95% of 20minWkg was over 3.2Wkg

Speaking as someone who has created a few Zwift races, it's easy to accidentally enable the WKG DQ in the event settings (I have done it, and gone back and corrected it) so my first question is whether they actually intended to do that. It's possible that it was an automated mistake. In CE races it should not be used because it can result in DQing riders who remain in the same category which is silly. That DQ code is left over from before CE existed. So talk to the organiser and they might sort it out for several people who should not have been DQ. If they did mean to do it then I would avoid their races unless you just want a training ride and don't care.

Somebody complained. And if they DQ you they should DQ everyone that was able to chase you down.

DQ makes no sense ( only in terms of tactics 😂). It is like the categorization systems: It has something of a black box 🤷‍♂️

Out of order no wonder people are leaving.

He’s got aim-watt. Hacker.

Don't worry too much about it, keep plugging away and eventually you'll want to go to Cat B anyway. I'm middle of the pack cat b so maybe I'll race ya!

One dude finished weighing 48kg could be I guess, As for weights mate some dudes stay around the same weight I run a lot and stay around the same weight have for years and years. But I get you there's some cheating but there only cheating themselves. Good video well done.

I'm a B cat and will be dropping down for sure as I've stopped racing as I'm only using it for fitness zone 2 3 and more into running saying that I can tell you half of the riders on zwift should be pros by the speeds they hit. Also racing too much is dangerous I know people who's had serious health problems from zwift so stay safe guys. Good luck out there racing.

The system is good..its based on 30 second and 10minute watts So im ranked at 550. Im racing a b and c cat riders and iys more lifelike. Flat routes because im heavy i can compete. Hills im left behind just like outdoor riding . I think a lot of poeple who arent keen are the riders who are used to winning a lot in old system

omg I felt that lol I changed mine every 3k km max

Everyone cry's about light riders I'm a light rider downhill you get smoked so it evens out. lose weight if you want to be a lighter rider. As for the 45kg riders its hard to believe. You have to power downhill being a light rider. 14w a kg lool

Hey I recorded a vid on this but never published it because of the sound quality. My local hill climb race weighed everyone for a special prize. So I had that data. I filtered out women, very small people and very tall. Out of a sample size of 70 or so the average weight was 81 kilos. Surprisingly heavy as these were all licensed bike racers. I then did a similar filter on a Zwift Fondo , same demographic e.g. North American males similar age range, height range etc., the average weight was 71 kilos. My feeling is this was a fairly accurate comparison of a fairly similar cohort and the average weight doping on Zwift is about 10 kilos. 😂

I am 52 and my HR often goes over 200 on zwift lol.

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Oh no… thought it was a connection drop. Another advantage to the Play controllers is you can use them to virtually shift, so chain isn’t moving, therefore little chance of dropping a chain

Hey Ollie. Firstly- great race, massive kudos for hanging in there on such a long and attritional course. You’d have been in the mix without the chain drop. Grumpy old (56) man view on the steering- I personally think it’s an unfair edge. Appreciate that people are paying for the privilege of use but it just seems a little excessive to me. Final point- I’d really like to be in a few races where everyone just rode at temp for the first half. We have all become so conditioned to fast start, ease, VO2 max on every bump, etc. I guess most of these races are so short that they automatically become a “let’s burn as many people as we can” but occasionally it would be nice to see something a bit different! Think that the pack dynamics still don’t help, so difficult to break away if catch a reasonable size group with a few big hitters. Rant over, great to see that the training is paying dividends.

Nightmare Olly! I was wondering what had happened as you were riding so well and i just pressumed it was maybe a connection dropout or something. It was really nice to race with you and please keep up with the videos your advice/insight has helped me out alot 👍

What a nightmare! Especially when you were going so well. Still, it bodes very well for the winter.

You don't need Sauce, you need to race B, that'll force you to draft and you've been there before :p

Nice work Olly gutted your chain dropped you were looking really strong! Started a training plan over the summer after a crash out on a ride meant I couldn’t cycle outdoors, managed 3 weeks and I just got bored and went back to just unstructured Zwift racing 😂 Well done on the training and getting back to your best!