17:55 Make no mistake people, theses the main if not the top reason among others, that governments are trying like hell to limit and control the internet. If they control the internet, they slow down EVERYTHING, and thus control how (when?) you personally manage YOUR money, and EVERYTHING else. Thus they manage EVERYTHING. Never vote for any bills in governs, at all levels, that try to limit ANYTHING on the internet!!

16:50 Are we going to start seeing airports checking for crypto wallets, and "verifying" what you got in them?? or confiscating (stealing) it if they hold more than $10K dollars??

This is great. When was this recorded?

What about religious liberals? I admit to being a boomer who grew up in Berkeley. We had a whole community of people who were religiously liberal. The values that were imparted were humanistic. Can’t we reestablish and create that? Why do we have to go conservative to have values and a strong support system?

Noah Smith is the clown of X.

I think that I’d prefer a Chinese academic who has a lengthy background in China to speak on this subject rather than the author. It is extremely difficult for someone from an outside Western perspective to comprehend how the Chinese system works. For instance, the CPC has close to 100 million members, meaning that a huge percentage of the better educated people in society are members who are most active and influential. And it is still a meritocratic system of promoting the most skillful people. Ask a Chinese intellectual with knowledge in this area to explain it well.

For those who wish that we have a policy to keep us humans relevant and/or not die, please look into PauseAI.

he's so hot tho

Thanks for this discussion. So far, I find Shapira making more sense than Yudkowsky. I can't sustain listening to Yudkowsky for long because he seems to avoid supporting his conclusions with particular arguments and examples. I wish AI doomers make a consistent argument about how AI will develop into an uncontrollable, superintelligent, and powerful entity.

NEXT: THE CASE AGAINST FOOD (Remarkably close to "The Case Against CO2") ...eat ze bugs...

Have you heard of "cultural revolution" in China? It is happening in America and destroying America.

Bad faith and dogmatic, disappointing.

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People like Brian don’t seem capable of taking seriously the implications of creating systems that are genuinely smarter than us across all domains. every one of his arguments sounds like a rationalization based on incredulity. He personally can’t wrap his mind around the fact that this is a real possibility and he does not want to admit that it could happen so he just flails around insisting that it’s impossible and people who are worried are just fear mongering. I think Nathan did a great job probing his perspective and posing reasonable questions that Brian did not have good answers for.

Good law if use wisely is good for a nation, ?... But if law is use wrongly like to cheat and tricks and traps innocent people or weak nation, then it is no good laws at all,,,?....

Experts suggest that mighty china needs many hundreds of very very good lawyers to help mighty china invent plenty of new law, and encourage all peoples to use our common sense knowledge and wise judgements on things and thinking and facts of laws and consequences of things and facts about law,,,,? But no invent silly.stupid and foolish law like what arrogant usa has not bases on fairness at all and we call usa new invent are actually arrogant and ignorance of facts and consequences laws to results and backfires into hurting usa itself very very deeply now and broke usa into such very very deep financial troubles and problems now, ,,? ..

How tf did I miss this

A TOTAL HACK OF THE SYSTEM!!! LOL!!!

55:32 "Russia's reserves are going down and will be out at current rates by the end of this year or sometime in 2025". That is just not true, the current reserves reported by their central bank are at around $600B not counting the $300B which was frozen. Their national wealth fund is at $135B and while it has gone down substantially from the ath of over $200B in august 2022 to cover government deficits it is very far from running out.

Very few people read Marx or Mao in China now. They are into making money and getting rich.

The China part was pretty funny. Thanks for the video

Who are Eric and Noah? High 4 digit subscribers? Shallow looks at each economy. I have found more in depth coverage on each of these and other countries...even on KZbin.

Ruby Tsao, author of JOURNEY TO CHINA: China has a Confucian tradition to value education. Everyone aspires to a college education, especially at top universities. The competition contribute to their high quality. The entrance exams are anonymous and fair, party members or not. Women have equal rights in the republic since 1912. They achieve equality through education. Jobs are performance based, including top leaders. Education is the key element in China's success.

Day to day life does not reflect a "rising" US economy. Sentiment is low because purchasing power is low. There is no data that can disprove that fact.

As long as there’s a population of people living together in a city or town, greed, lust and anger will be the dominating forces. The natures of these desires are unsatisfactory. Therefore they are called by the Buddha’ as ignorances.

45:40 Yes thats a great point, the US didn't help China out of the goodness of their saint heart, they willingly abandoned RoC(Taiwan) to have mainland on their side in their geopolitical game. They promised one China policy and only recognized PRC as the legitimate government of China. Now they are playing with the very dangerous idea being a separist between the 2 half of China. It would be the end of US or worst the world if they go down that path.

The ban on TikTok and the Gaza war just killed any hope for the democrats to win the next election as they have alienated the young progressive voters that was traditionally their strong base. I think those voter will not vote Donald Trump, but they will simply not vote at all or vote for independent.

This man does not know what he's talking about.

Haha..not going to happen...they identify..American ruling class weakness..determine China will not go that way😊

The US universities have women studies, meanwhile Chinese universities focus on STEM.

hey thanks for posting this. just constructive feedback you were interrupting brad too much and I just wanted tolisten to him talk. It felt unnatural and competitive. Great stuff otherwise

Mr. Torenberg is quite ignorant about China and how the Chinese education system works. It is unclear where he gets the information. Too bad because I think he is articulated and should be able to do a much better job if he gets the fact straight.

"Mao falls from power"? The man died sitting at the helm of supreme power. After his death, his wife and three others were blamed for the fiasco that resulted from the cultural revolution. Not him. Everyone knows what was. But that's how careful the Chinese were in preserving his legacy. That's just one of the too many little errors stated by this guest speaker.

The wave picture looks so Japanese.

Chinese universities will operate via signaling? They already do; China invented signaling two thousand years ago, using the medium of comprehensive exams to identify talent among tens of thousands of applicants. When the British created their civil service in the 1850s, they modeled it after the Chinese Mandarin system based on civil service exams.

Harvard is CCP's buddy and always offer the degrees to them, especially for the kids and officals.

Just more academic ignorance and arrogance. Many academics from ex-Soviet block countries are pathologically allergic to anything communist. It's really to their own detriment as academics who can't engage in a honest discussion.

Stop bluffing yourself. American univertirs r gradually its status as a centre for learnered but s station fort non critical thinkers. Just accept it. U US has lost your ability to generate good potential thinker but rather more of the radical nationalist that only crave for status, non vommon senseattitude.

He's much more forgiving than I am. I 100% believe these companies are acting treasonous, and it's on purpose. These are not stupid people. They know they're traitors. So long as they make a large enough profit, the rest of us can die for all they care

What put off when you mention about Uighers human rights... So you think Uighers are being suppressed? Have you been to Xinjiang...?

I think Nathan overestimates the doom scenarios from AI. Nuclear threat will be a much greater threat than AI in the foreseeable future.

China will not be a country run by lawyers as the speaker suggests. It will be one run by Engineers. There are more engineers in the polite buro than other professions combined.

Rubbish. Full of wrong premises and prejudice concerning China. The common strange interpretations when the west observe China with western lens and no understanding of Chinese cultyre and value.

It came as a surprise to me when prominent Western KZbinrs in Beijing noted that the debates among the university elites in Beijing showcased their remarkable level of global knowledge and astute thinking, and remarking that it surpasses their peers overseas.

I think there are just too few ads. Can you please add some more?

The analogy between skin color and hair (or eye) color is genius

Great talk, really nice comparative analysis. Would be great to add some sociology concerning interpersonal relationships and the older Manchurian system and how it carries to the modern days

Before the defector import can we please fix ITAR restrictions so people from allied countries can work in US aerospace and defence

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