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@guilleprTube
@guilleprTube 4 сағат бұрын
There seems to be an error with the dummy battery that you have for the monitor in your links. Seems like its smaller than the one that the monitor needs or uses. The contacts don't match and it's smaller.
@AngomWatson
@AngomWatson 16 сағат бұрын
Love the way you explained in full detail 🎉
@JamesStevensonPhoto
@JamesStevensonPhoto 18 сағат бұрын
One of the best rigs I've seen... and I've looked at a lot! Some described rigging cameras as adult lego... I liked this definition - fun to see how others build theirs out. I'll have a ZV-E1 soon and will do something very similar to yours. Thanks for sharing!
@Hexlord
@Hexlord Күн бұрын
I suspect a lot of the haters are just doing them hating because it is trendy to do so.
@AOGBARBER
@AOGBARBER 2 күн бұрын
Definitely subscribed plus great video camera advice and reviews on equipment
@RicoManila
@RicoManila 2 күн бұрын
I just subscribed, you have a very good voice and explanation on this Bro, and I love the colors of your video honestly. More power on your channel! <3
@palaneproductions7357
@palaneproductions7357 3 күн бұрын
Very good assessment, the S9 is brilliant for the people who will buy it...Panasonic make a dual card, WR and other bells whistles for the people who dont want to use the S9.The people criticising it simply cant grasp what it is and thats their problem...Geralds OVER done.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 3 күн бұрын
For the record though Gerald didn’t talk about the camera, he was talking about brand marketing strategies. I appreciated his video, I don’t think he should be put down for it
@palaneproductions7357
@palaneproductions7357 3 күн бұрын
HA , and its prompted umpteen follow the leader videos...he is losing subscribers , so has to put controversial content up to attract views...I for one wont watch him again and I watch about 12 hours each day.
@Ottointtl
@Ottointtl 3 күн бұрын
you forgot the microphone.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 3 күн бұрын
I prefer to record audio externally.
@jw112mail
@jw112mail 4 күн бұрын
Watch Manny Ortiz's video on how bad the focusing is. Forgot the specs and features. If it struggles to focus, who cares about anything else. No mechanical shutter so it's poor option for photography due to banding and picture quality. Very limited record time length. Ergos so bad they gave out free 3rd party grips to all the reviewers. No EVF. No Hot shoe so no way you a flash etc. No headphone jack. The PROs?: Stabilization is top notch. If you are a Lumix fanboy buy a Lumix s5ii.
@natureredux1957
@natureredux1957 4 күн бұрын
Why didn't the Sony shills Scream to the High Mountains when Sony made a STRIPPED down version of the a7rV.
@AoyagiAichou
@AoyagiAichou 4 күн бұрын
I think they need to start pumping out some very compact lenses rather quickly. Something in the style of the 12-32 for MFT. Sigma has some nice and compact primes though. The camera isn't for me though. I... just don't like the style, haha.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 3 күн бұрын
Yeah that 26mm f8 is kinda useless in my opinion, i hope they come out with some better small lenses that are at least f4 or below
@samv2777
@samv2777 4 күн бұрын
This camera is for specific purposes not an update or the best compact full frame, Sigma FP is already proven on this, how much people love it and I own one. Since I had this now I see Panasonic S9 is an update due to robust stabilisation thus reducing the need for a tripod or gimbal during my overseas trip. Those who have been in the photography field values each camera for it certain niche activities, like I enjoyed having Ricoh GR, likewise I had Sony A7r, still got Canon 1D iii and iv and they are good in their own way, but being in the Panasonic environment for almost seven years I found photography is more enjoyable in terms of its quality and video it produces so advanced. I found it is amateurish some of the videos showing bashing the camera and targeting who were presenting their verdict. In fact most of the videos were balanced and they understood the market where S9 will be valued, no wonder Japanese consumers are becoming more in alignment with such concept.
@GrenlandUnderVann
@GrenlandUnderVann 4 күн бұрын
Lumix is trying to sell the S9 to the iPhone crowd. Total failure IMO.
@jeanchindeko5477
@jeanchindeko5477 4 күн бұрын
Well said! Still trying to understand what all this drama is about! It’s a camera release and this is not the first neither the first time a brand flew KZbinr at their unveiling event.
@DoubleTheDom
@DoubleTheDom 4 күн бұрын
Camera is hot garbage… A few extra hundred get you a real camera that has a mechanical shutter.. better record times and a hot shoe? lol I can’t believe anyone recommending this camera
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 4 күн бұрын
If I were buying a camera just for me, I’d probably go s5iix as that’s the style of camera that I like. But a lot of people like simple, my wife loves a small little camera that’s easy to use, not too many confusing buttons etc. i think a lot of people are gonna get it for that reason. Thoughts?
@z352kdaf8324
@z352kdaf8324 4 күн бұрын
This camera has gotten more hate than the Sony ZV-1F and ZV1-M2. Those were pretty stripped down and lacking also. I guess Insta360 X4 was the trigger, that overflowed into this. The ZV-E1 is a really great price. I'm not sure the the Lumix comes close even at a cheaper price.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 4 күн бұрын
Interesting thought on the insta-360 stuff, there’s been a few things that have riled people up recently. This may just be it all coming to a head (hopefully the end of it lol)
@jtchalatsis
@jtchalatsis 4 күн бұрын
I really really don't get all the drama around a *camera*. I was really interested in picking a Lumix s9 up because I don't like carrying my s5ii or s5 rigs when travelling and I sold my Fujifilm because I wanted to stay in one ecosystem. So Lumix releases the perfect camera for me (and for a bunch of other s5ii users from what I see in the comments) and then all I can see online is how I'm probably an idiot for liking this camera, how the missing EVF should eliminate this camera as an option, the electronic shutter will ruin my shots etc etc. It's just another camera out there. You like it? Cool. You hate it? Also cool. Just let me do my own thing now, and mind your own business. Why are people so obsessed with other people's choices?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 4 күн бұрын
For real man, it’s strange that people take a camera design as a personal offense. And then proceed to take that out on other people. I’m excited to give it a go
@davidaltizer
@davidaltizer 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for making this! I love the camera. It’s fun. Certainly has problems and it wouldn’t be my only camera, but as a second or third body it’s great.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 4 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yeah same for me, just seems fun lol
@samohyesss
@samohyesss 4 күн бұрын
The camera I've been hoping for is a modern compact Lumix with a small fixed zoom lens and weather sealing. Kind of like the Sony RX100 series. The ultimate content creator camera! With that said, this camera is still cool and if they slap on a discount on this, I'm sooo getting it.
@DreamReleases
@DreamReleases 5 күн бұрын
Travel camera. B camera Quick B rolls etc
@Samiam-mu5ln
@Samiam-mu5ln 5 күн бұрын
Also, just another KZbinr attempting to do damage control on your channel/personality even though you didn't get sent to Japan... but you do use buzzwords and click bait titles so your are still part of the problem 👎👎
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
lol i feel like you didn’t actually watch the video, not doing any damage control for my channel, my channel hasn’t been subject to any, I’m trying to tell people to not be unnecessarily rude or antagonistic towards people they don’t know. As it’s unreasonable, like I said over and over in the video, separate the product from the person. As for the title, there is drama, it will be my first lumix camera, and it got you to click on it, so that’s a success in my book lol. If you hate the title/thumbnail so much, don’t click on the video
@Samiam-mu5ln
@Samiam-mu5ln 5 күн бұрын
These Content Creators (never will I consider them Filmmakers) using Buzzwords like "Drama" only shows that they are disconnected from their audience and where their mindset lies when it comes to making videos now 👎👎
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 4 күн бұрын
A couple things. I’ve never claimed to be a “filmmaker” I’ve done a couple commercials, a bunch of weddings and a lot of church work. Nothing I’d call a “film”. Secondly, people have been incredibly “dramatic” surrounding this camera release. All because a camera doesn’t work for them personally, when the camera wasn’t made for them in the first place. Seems like a silly thing for people to have become as angry as they are about it
@NeilMcAliece
@NeilMcAliece 5 күн бұрын
Lots of the Japan early look videos mentioned the 15 minute 4K30 clip limit cited cooling limitations in the compact body. That made sense and was plausible. Now that they have the camera at home for extended periods, they're finding and posting that it's not necessarily true. I've seen 2 now testing back to back 15 minute recordings and it seems to get around 1hr to 1h15m before overheating. I think this highlights the problem for reviewers and consumers in the rush to release press events. What was cited as a makes sense limitation due to a compact build now looks to be unnecessarily limited by Panasonic. They probably could have gone with 45 minutes instead of 15. Hopefully Panasonic give the user more control of this in a firmware update (or do they think they are protecting S5 II sales?).
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
That’s been a frustration I’ve had with some companies who want to send me products, the stipulate that the video has to be out within 2 weeks of me receiving the product, which there’s no way to really know enough in that time, especially if the product will hold up overtime. So I just ghost those types of requests lol
@9adriano21
@9adriano21 5 күн бұрын
Sony fanboys are just butthurt, Panasonic started doing what Sony has being doing for years.
@Qwest905
@Qwest905 5 күн бұрын
of course they had fun...any camera they would have had fun with 150 people with the same camera and same interests. It's not because it was the s9
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 4 күн бұрын
This is true for sure, part of me found their enjoyment of photography (no matter what camera, as many other companies have done this sort of thing before too) was half the fun of watching their videos, makes you wanna go travel with friends and take photos. Can be good inspiration for people who need it to go out and use their gear. But yes, you are totally right there. Who knows what videos about the camera would have looked like if they didn’t do it this way
@Qwest905
@Qwest905 4 күн бұрын
@@thomasjmcclure lol to go and shoot friends and travel is much better when it's free :)
@Comixflux
@Comixflux 5 күн бұрын
Currently you can get a new S5ii on offer for only £1,699 with 2 good lenses (20-60mm f3.5 and the 50mm 1.8) compaired to the S9 at £1,499 with the pancake 26mm manual fixed f8 lens. I own a S5ii and a Sony A6000, and use my S5ii for detailed work and filming but still use the A6000 for Street and travel when i want to use something out of sight. All cameras have place for someone and the S9 will most likley sell quite well, but I really still think i'd still stick with a much smaller camera for street and travel with an Apsc or micro 4/3 and use the bigger S5ii for everything else. It would of helpped if lumix had waited untill they were able to show off the 'LUMIX S 18-40mm F4.5-6.3 Lens' at the same time as the S9 japan launch (as this lens has autofocus and a changeable aperture while the pancake 26mm does not and was reguarded as a bit of a joke).
@KRE8TVT
@KRE8TVT 5 күн бұрын
what about mic
@dashadowtuber5240
@dashadowtuber5240 5 күн бұрын
Thanks, Thomas! I did not even know some accessories that you have shown existed. Thanks a lot, very informative.
@incognitojayy
@incognitojayy 5 күн бұрын
Hey Thomas, I don't remember what it's called when something shows that you're recording, but does the PortKeys Monitor show when you are recording?
@moneyboys2010
@moneyboys2010 5 күн бұрын
Great take on this. Even after all you’ve said, some say they don’t like the hyper positive reviews. If a Reviewer really likes a Camera should they go out of their way to find negative feedback to make some people happy. Here’s the Beauty to all this, there are plenty of Negative mostly Reviewers that look for everything wrong, if that review gives you piece of mind, follow that one and unsubscribe to the others you don’t like. Staying subscribed only so you can go into the comments to trash a review for a product you clearly are not going to buy is petty 😂. Grow up, no one is making you upset you are making yourself upset simply because you want to be in conflict. This video is such a great example of remembering you look at a review because we are nosy but the decision to buy is all on you, not a reviewer.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
Well said
@trekofjoy
@trekofjoy 5 күн бұрын
Does the monitor support touch functionality with the camera - changing settings and touch tracking for example - like the Portkeys?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
It doesn’t no. If you’re wanting that, I’d go for the lh7p, or lh5p mkII. Both fantastic monitors!
@vinaychauhan8569
@vinaychauhan8569 5 күн бұрын
I’m planning to buy a camera, primarily for photography and looking for ZV E10. Should i buy it or should for some else camera in this approximate price range. Please guide me
@bashroomsamie4626
@bashroomsamie4626 5 күн бұрын
abit late but have marked the register.... present🤣🤣
@strippedlist
@strippedlist 5 күн бұрын
What exactly has GU created??? Have you seen a video or photo by him? Except his studio video???? Anything creative to admire??? He is like, my kid is not bequtfi because his eyes are not green...but has curly hair....So there are reviewers whose work you never seen....and there is the lie...reading specs and comparing worth zero with the experience on the field....
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
I’d recommend going and trying to produce a video testing a product as well as he does. His channel clearly isn’t about creative uses for cameras, but about testing the limitations of the camera, which he does better than anyone in my opinion. As someone who has tried to make videos like that and realized just how much more work that is to do… i have nothing but respect for it. Takes a ton of work. Before you bash him for that. Go try make those styles of videos for yourself because they ain’t easy
@strippedlist
@strippedlist 5 күн бұрын
@thomasjmcclure you must be joking....if you listen to.him there would be no wedding video creators....do you have any ideea how.many people are using nikon z6 ii, or I or Fujifilm or sony a6400 to creat wedding videos??? Nobody does it better than him...Jesus christ...that's why fraud thrives on youtube, because there are people.like you praising non creativity....what if you admire poeple who actually create amazing.videos from.8 bit files...last time I'm on your channel....
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
There are many amazing creative channels out there that I enjoy, and there are technical channels that I enjoy. What an odd thing to say lol, there are always going to be wedding videographers, and Nikon users, Fuji users, Sony users… I really don’t see where you are coming from on this… And no worries, have a great day. The point of this video was to tell people to try being nice, not to rage on them unnecessarily without knowing them as a person. If that upsets you, then please don’t feel the need to watch the videos.
@PloyPp-bn6iv
@PloyPp-bn6iv 5 күн бұрын
@mrheng562
@mrheng562 5 күн бұрын
I find rigging therapeutic. Sometimes, it is definitely pointless. But, it feels zen for some reason. 😂😂😂
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
Same man!
@VoltLover00
@VoltLover00 5 күн бұрын
Shills like Julia Trotti who accept a camera as a "gift" and don't mark the video as sponsored are violating KZbin's terms. Shills need to get called out. There's nothing wrong with calling out the extreme shilling going on. At least Julia was paid, with a free camera. The problem with the trip is that precious few of them admitted they didn't pay for it. They're not trying to be unbiased, they're being shady and hiding what's really going on.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
I understand that frustration, but technically according to the terms, recieving a product as a gift in return for a review technically isn’t a sponsorship as no money gets exchanged, I understand that something of monetary value is exchanged, and that’s certainly something to consider, but it’s not the same as a sponsorship. And every video I watched, the reviewers were open and said that they were given the camera on a “long term loan” which is lumix’s way of helping those creators not have to pay tax on the value of the product. I’m not saying that necessarily is okay, but it’s the way that it works without it officially being a sponsorship. Worth having a conversation about at least. In many ways it’s like other jobs, for example my day job provides me a MacBook for work, but I’m not sponsored by Apple lol. It’s provided to me so I can work properly, when I’m sent products that’s how I view it, and personally I tell the company that I’m not guaranteeing a video, I’ll make one if i like it and think it’s worth promoting, if i don’t like it i won’t make a video about it Thoughts?
@VoltLover00
@VoltLover00 5 күн бұрын
S9 is a garbage camera. Get the A7C if you want small
@9adriano21
@9adriano21 5 күн бұрын
6k Open Gate, better IBIS, shutter angle, frame markers, VLOG (10-bit), LUTs, Waveforms, Mor affordable… Under those specs I could say the a7c is garbage
@DoubleTheDom
@DoubleTheDom 4 күн бұрын
Did you forget to mention the recording limits which make this still a garbage camera for video
@farren7254
@farren7254 4 күн бұрын
@@DoubleTheDomthe “limits” don’t effect the target audience for this camera- the casual content creator. They aren’t doing hour long professional interviews- or they’d get the S5ii.
@9adriano21
@9adriano21 2 күн бұрын
@@DoubleTheDom Sony’s compact cameras will overheat, there’s technically still a limit on them. Also, I shoot professional and personal video and still a non-issues, out of ~2500 video files in my SSD only 1 is over 15 minutes. So most use cases are just fine.
@mrkimgxxx
@mrkimgxxx 5 күн бұрын
Another sellout KZbinr?
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
Lol literally never talked with a camera brand, lumix, Sony or anyone. I feel like you didn’t really watch the video…
@jimgiraffe5253
@jimgiraffe5253 6 күн бұрын
syncro scan lad...im having a seizure with that flickering the s9 is a hard pass - the stuff missing is not worth a few hundred less than the s5ii if it was 750-1k , maybe but its just crippled from the outset
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 6 күн бұрын
S5iix is $200 cheaper when bought used
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 6 күн бұрын
Do you mean $200 cheaper than the s9? Or than usual retail price for s5iix. Because i haven’t seen any go for less than $1600-1700. Also for a lot of people they are going to want this for its simplicity, new photographers find cameras like the s5ii a lot more daunting/confusing. Different cameras for different people
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 6 күн бұрын
@@thomasjmcclure new photographers spending $1500 in a camera are out of their mind. This is overpriced
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 6 күн бұрын
@@jaymills1720 i don’t disagree there, but some people got money to spend like that lol
@milagrosbrest8247
@milagrosbrest8247 6 күн бұрын
I’ve been studying photography for a while now but I am not a pro at all. I have an IPhone 14 Pro MAX, I understand that there is a big difference between cameras and phones but I’ve seen some footage shot on ZVE10 and it kinda looks like an Iphone. I am afraid that If I invest on the ZVE10 It won’t be a great improvement.
@waveland
@waveland 6 күн бұрын
Gerald would have been better off sticking that essay in the bottom drawer and forgetting he ever wrote it. But moving on. I can definitely see a place for the S9 in my kit. Certainly not for full-rate work, but to rapid prototype looks, or for BTS, or pro bono work where 1080 and minimal color work in post is the goal, etc. Loads of reasons to have the S9 around as a light carry option, especially with open gate flexibility and an excellent IBI, rapid fire social media is easy.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 6 күн бұрын
As a small channel I actually found his video very helpful as an inside look on how the brand/company marketing can work in certain situations.
@VoltLover00
@VoltLover00 5 күн бұрын
Shills like Julia Trotti need to get called out
@EH-pm1ke
@EH-pm1ke 2 күн бұрын
Nope, pretty much everyone agrees with Gerald, it was a great video
@waveland
@waveland 2 күн бұрын
@@EH-pm1ke As the old saying goes, “You don’t bite the hand which feeds you.” If he felt a bit left out of the camera world by Panasonic before the video, he’s now going to have a bunch of other brands wondering whether to include him going forward. I suspect he’s hurt his channel quite a lot, and based on all the backtracking posts by him since, now (too late) he realizes it.
@mccautomotive
@mccautomotive 6 күн бұрын
Perfect B Cam for my S5iix and iPhone 15 Pro replacement for better quality Reels/Shorts, using my existing L Mount lenses. This is a cheaper ZVE1, with newer features, better IBIS and very clear expectations set on recording limits. My wife will also use this, but finds S5iix too heavy and intimidating to use.
@mmaneage86
@mmaneage86 6 күн бұрын
Honestly, I think the target audience for this camera are people who have never once watched a KZbin camera review video. It looks fun to use but not something I would buy. Using "crippled" or "joke" for it is simply because it doesn't fulfill the needs of a higher end user. A casual user might find equal value in the simple design. In the end, if the camera sells than it will have been a good idea. Time will tell.
@DreamReleases
@DreamReleases 5 күн бұрын
Travel.
@DreamReleases
@DreamReleases 5 күн бұрын
Crippled? Because it doesnt have something you want?
@BrendonKPadjasek
@BrendonKPadjasek 6 күн бұрын
NGL, I was very disappointed when I first saw the release. Wanting a gx9 successor, I mentioned the things I disliked about it in the comments but obviously not attacking the reviewers. 2 days later, I find myself absolutely loving it and 100% plan on picking one up. I shoot a lot of band/ artist / studio bts sessions and the amount of times I need a quality image or video for the clients to post ASAP, is exactly why the S9 is going to make it's way into my arsenal. Also the recording limits are perfectly fine for music videos so this will be a great C cam to my S1 and S5iix. My channel is based on metal music production, and it's going to be the camera I suggest to everyone in my niche to get for performance videos, and to make photography and video fun and enjoyable. Great video Plus Lumix's synchro scan is amazing for flickering lights. The brand thinks of everything. If this camera is too expensive in anyone's eyes, just wait till it goes on sale. Also Lumix is the best company for firmware updates and every Thursday Sean does a livestream where you can get direct answer about issues you're having from the brand. I'm personally unaware of any other company doing that
@GrenlandUnderVann
@GrenlandUnderVann 4 күн бұрын
Just get a 2nd S5iix? Or better wait for the S1 mark II. I don't understand the hype on the S9.
@BrendonKPadjasek
@BrendonKPadjasek 4 күн бұрын
@@GrenlandUnderVann I didn't either, until I did. I think there more hate around the S9 than there is love tbh haha. Which is fair as its not for everyone. I'm personally gonna wait for it to go on sale to grab one. I think its too expensive for what it is, but I love what it is
@GrenlandUnderVann
@GrenlandUnderVann 4 күн бұрын
@@BrendonKPadjasek The S9 was not the camera that was planned [for this event] This was not supposed to be the camera we should see in Japan Look at the people who got invited, who are they? Who are their target demographics? Then look at what kind of camera this is? Who is is serving? Look at the marketing Panasonic made on this camera? Does it match the people who got invited? Look at the commercial that they made for this camera. I don't see any filmmakers. Compare that to the people who got invited [to Japan] and their audiences.
@SuperALBSURE
@SuperALBSURE 4 күн бұрын
The funny thing is Panasonic just want you to buy into the system. So whether you buy the s5 or the s9 they’re happy!
@BrendonKPadjasek
@BrendonKPadjasek 4 күн бұрын
@@GrenlandUnderVann Yeah I watched a podcast where one of the guys that went on the trip said that. Definitely keeping an eye out for whatever that is
@prozekutor
@prozekutor 6 күн бұрын
you blame youtube plebs who watch your videos without subbing (90% plus) from hating on priviledged shills who get literally corruption rather than undue advantages for making their content? Paid flights, hotels, what else? yes they are right, and you are wrong on this one.
@MrJapanforce
@MrJapanforce 6 күн бұрын
The perfect camera for those who know what they want. Not for brain washed though...
@-smok5332
@-smok5332 6 күн бұрын
Great video, keep going
@bradwilliamsandthedancehal8422
@bradwilliamsandthedancehal8422 6 күн бұрын
I'm a pretty lazy KZbinr. I don't comment or like videos too often. But I've taken to liking your videos before I even play them so I don't forget. I really enjoy to look of your content and you're a charming presenter. I wanna do my small part to help this channel grow so I can keep enjoying it. I did photography professionally for about 10 years before going back to music full time. Just getting into the video side of things. Keep up the great work. Cheers!
@peshrawable
@peshrawable 6 күн бұрын
When you review on KZbin you can’t say what is profitable for you or what company pleases you , when I want to buy a thing and watch KZbin reviewers and all of them say it’s marvelous and greatest thing ever made and I buying it and using it there is big flaw and great disappointment because those reputable KZbinr didn’t mention that big flaw. This is great 750$ camera not 1500$,put any l mount lens and it will be a joke and that f8 is a joke too,I like lumix and appreciate what they do, but they don’t need to pay or to please KZbinr to pimping their products.
@thomasjmcclure
@thomasjmcclure 5 күн бұрын
If it were an apsc camera, maybe I’d see them aiming for a much lower price, but it’s still one of the cheapest full frame cameras on the market. And yeah personally i don’t understand the f8 lens lol.