2025 Deals! | The Definitive UK EV Charging Prices & Power Guide

[@ghawdex7]

Nice video dave. Nice to see you have boldly gone where no one has gone before.😊

[@charlesbrown447]

I use my Electroverse card, both at Ionity and Chargeplace Scotland, and it works every time. I also have no issue with it being put onto my home account either.

[@stevenbarrett7648]

Visited Boundary Mills Colne yesterday, on the roundabout at the end of the M65 we were really surprised to see an EG on the Move gas station with Starbucks and .....eight Tesla V4 superchargers but badged up as EGM, out of curiosity we plugged on, no app required, 49 pence a Kilowatt and a reasonable 100kWh to start off. It looks like they are fitting another 8 as well, useful place to stop for a nice coffee or browse the store attached to the petrol station, Spar and a couple of other national food names stuck on the side. We stayed longer than I wished due to the fact it was hailing like there was no tomorrow, welcome to Lancashire !

[@computerbob06]

FYI, the speed you got was 100kw (no h) and the price you paid was 49p per kwh (with the h).

[@MarkHewitt1978]

A nice spot! I've seen a fev EV-OTM sites but they've usually been a max of 4x chargers. Whereas 8x is probably the minimum anywhere should be installing today.

[@davidskidmore6741]

Thanks for all the information and please keep it up. I'm looking forward even more to my electric car buy this year

[@adrianupnorth]

I love the electroverse card. Saves preauthorisation and I've managed to catch a plunge too. I sell wholesale electricity for a living and prices are heading down. The five year forecast price is looking very low.

[@malcym3394]

I thnk you referred to Gretna in Scotland. Just to say that Scotland makes up over a third of the area of Britain. Bristol isn't described as being in "England". Maybe "Gretna in Dumfries & Galloway” or "Inverness the Highlands" would help us Scots feel on a par with England? A small point, but an important one.

[@tangoadvance8393]

A great example of Electroverse plunge pricing is right now. 40% off IONITY, Osprey, Be.EV, Blink, GeniePoint, Raw and Instavolt. Ends at 11:00 today and back for tomorrow from 21:00-23:00. So definitely want to keep an eye on if it suits your needs.

[@paulweston1106]

I'm only getting plunge pricing of 15% discount in the Electroverse app at the moment.

[@tangoadvance8393]

@@paulweston1106 Weird, I've only created a account on the app and its deffo 40%. There ends my knowledge I'm afraid.

[@tim66612343]

@@paulweston1106it’s regional.

[@MrDAVIDATKIN]

Always love these charging price update videos. As far as Be.EV charging prices go, too expensive but it's no more complicated than Tesla where you can have 4 different prices on the same charger and they are all different costs wherever you go.

[@stephenfurner8815]

In and around Greater London I use Pod Point in supermarket car parks 🎉and Source roadside charging points. Works well for a Zoe with 50kwh max charging rate. Most of the time 22,kwh charging at 48p per Kwh as a local resident member of Source London.

[@FARTOOSHORT]

Hi. Locally in Cornwall, I use Gridserve regularly and they’re expensive in my opinion. However, with my 2015 BMW i3 and its LR6 battery, it works out at £2.50 - £7 a charge! The joy of a small EV battery. 🔋

[@johnnodge4327]

I don't know where you are in Cornwall, but the V4 Tesla Superchargers at Fraddon are open to all, and cost as little as 36 P per kWhr off peak with a subscription. I only used them to try them, but they worked just as expected.

[@djtaylorutube]

Taking advantage of an off peak rate to still be spending the same as petrol... Currently, the answer is simple, all pile on Tesla and hope that the clogging up of the Superchargers indicates to Tesla to build more. While simultaneously hoping that grid connects can be completed in less than four years for each project. Apparently, there are some other CPO's who can't compete on piece that people don't need to use.

[@stephenbagwell8275]

I think at one point you showed your sat nav showing the nearest ultra rapid chargers over 100kW to the Trafford Centre were Instavolt at Pilsworth Bury - there are quite a few closer now

[@anignorantbrit]

Love the desktop wallpaper. I prefer the Enterprise A personally. The proper Enterprise A!

[@_Dougaldog]

That the one with stalks ?

[@PhilGahan]

yesterday Sainsbury’s preauthorised charge was at £60 before the charge. Gasted by flabber!

[@linuxretrogamer]

2:37 Osprey are 63p between 7pm and 11pm using the Electroverse app which any one, not only Octopus customers, can use. I’m a convert to the Electroverse app on my phone. My credit card is stored in app and if the charger is supported (most big name operators are) the process is a breeze.

[@garygriffiths2487]

Electroverse app definitely open to non Octopus customers.

[@davidhammond9816]

Great content Dave, could we have a top ten countdown on prices? Is there a reason EV chargers have all these different names rather than just named by charge rate?

[@djtaylorutube]

Naming convention: EXPENSIVE, Expensive, expensive... Tesla. Fixed it for you. 😅

[@davidhammond9816]

@ I would just like to see a transparent pricing charge chart (cheapest holding the number one spot) Is there an app like they have for petrol pricing? But I would also like to see one app that shows all chargers with a good route planner, with no loyalty to any Supplier. One day perhaps!

[@djtaylorutube]

@@davidhammond9816 Pretty much Tesla every time for cheapest. Not exclusively so but almost always.

[@davidhammond9816]

@@djtaylorutube I agree, I join Tesla when I road-trip. They are fantastic along the main routes of Europe, but thin on the ground when you are touring around the French countryside..

[@djtaylorutube]

@davidhammond9816 I've never had a problem yet in France but if he less concerned there, at least their electric isn't expensive and other chargers are a more normal price. 🙂

[@josephmwilliams6754]

Thanks for another informative video . I might have struggled with the one and only debit card screen , so cheers for the heads up !

[@Lawrence7of9]

My first range anxiety moment just occurred in 2years of EV ownership/road trips (inc 5k to Norway). Following late trip to drop off my daughter at UEA (Norwich) from Manchester, easy 4+ hr run (each way) mostly dual carriageway/3 lanes so delight with Tesla autopilot. Prefer late run to avoid worst traffic, but before overnight lane closures. Going was fine but they’d started road closures early on other side so knew I’d be returning on less ideal back roads. The thick fog was alarming at times but not a problem, though shut off autopilot at peak. Problem really started with SC in central Derby (diverted around yet more closures) the car parking in which housed was closed off (looked unusual). I was low on charge, in unfamiliar place, off route & now feeling tense at 2am. Suddenly, I began to contemplate non-Tesla charging & anxiety grew, where are they, will they work? I reset route home Tesla adapted & set new SC stop (EV point?), really taking my range low. Good news was I recognised the road & was now past many diversions, but range was low & shrinking. The SC was just off route near fuel station, when I saw the row of rebranded V4 Tesla charges I felt tangible relief. I plugged in & charged as usual (except cost more at 65p KW), despite this I was very happy, no longer contemplating failure scenarios. Tesla had saved me again, but the fear/anxiety of non-Tesla chargers I pity everyone reliant on other networks.

[@geoffjolliffe6509]

Dave Thanks, helpful as ever.Electroverse works really well for me ,faultless really and now works with all the non Tesla chargers I use including Charge place Scotland. Which I havent seen you cover. Perhaps try it again with a regular user. However mostly I use Tesla open to all and nearly always pay 34p per unit so saving me about £50 a month thanks

[@Jaw0lf]

I have used the Eleectroverse card a few times now when needing a charge away from home. Also works abroad! Just had another notification of plunge pricing for tomorrow.

[@veronicathecow]

A spreadsheet of Tesla prices would be brilliant, thanks for all your work Dave

[@malcolmsutton6740]

I’ve done a spreadsheet but prices keep changing.

[@djwarren5081]

As I'm collecting a pre owned Tesla next week I thought I'd better subscribe.

[@geofflittle7324]

Hi Dave, might be worth mentioning AW Energy at Checkey Wood, Hockliffe, Bedfordshire. They have several 150 kW chargers at 39p/kWh. Not the price at all their locations though.

[@johnbridger5629]

I used Ionity in Calais with the Electroverse app and it was very easy and discounted.

[@johnbird9499]

Thanks Dave - you seem to be very balanced. I can’t charge at home which is far from ideal. They are a great option for those who charge at home. But prices will almost certainly soar once everyone is in an electric car. But as many people seem to be at best disingenuous with the truth, you’re helping explain realistic charging prices and the variations 👍

[@GruffSillyGoat]

Why will the EV charging price soar with mass ownership, the reasoning is not clear? The main CPO cost drivers are the grid connection cost and standing rate for business electricity, both of these were designed for industry/commercial usage not charging. This is being looked into and will be revised, along with the connection request process itself. Once these cost drivers are resolved then prices should lower as the UK operates a competitive model so prices face downward price pressure (similar to current fossil-fuel pricing). Outside of that road based taxation will shift to a usage based model (pay per mile) for all cars not just EVs. Otherwise as cars get more efficient the tax take will reduce.

[@davetakesiton]

Thanks John I try to be neutral, not always easy separating fact from spin

[@stephenbagwell8275]

On maps it shows the MFG Chargers in Whitefield Manchester as being on the East side of Bury New Road when they’re are actually on the other side but it’s easy enough to spot them & do a U turn at the traffic lights. They’re some distance from the petrol pumps though

[@stephenlewin9957]

Try merry hill dudley in the west Midlands. They have three different charging company's maybe more in one place scattered around the car parks

[@AlanPring-ok5rs]

Dave if you are in the Milton Keynes Area check out the Fuuse at Checkley Wood (AW Energy) LU7 9LG (on the A5 between Milton Keynes and Hockliffe) look for the two giant wind turbines 39 p up to 150 KW easy access has a Starbucks and i think they have large vehicle bays .

[@veronicathecow]

Love the screen saver LLAP.

[@James-BB70]

How do you rate Mer and Lidl chargers?

[@Oldlard]

The Mer app is an abomination.

[@johnbaker5533]

EVPoint (EG group) and EV on the move (EG on the move) are actually separate networks still. Some of the locations have been transferred from EVpoint to EG on the move but not all (EG group sold all it forecourts in the UK to asda or EG on the move (but they kept the EV point brand) ) and the EG groups EVpoint chargers are on the Asda owned sites. Currently EVpoint are not installing any new locations though only EV on the move.

[@grahamtoyn2912]

You don't have to be an Octopus customer to get an electroverse card,I've had my card for 3 years and I was with She'll Energy at the time and Octopus loaded it with £5.credit to start me off.

[@SuperFace1986]

Well done Dave....

[@chrisw3771]

After the issues I had with Chargepoint at McArthur Glenn in Bridgend before Xmas I'd never use them again. I have noticed they have rebranded as 'RAW' charging there (still chargepoint on when you check their website) I generally always top up at the Applegreen chargers at Bridgend services, convenient & reliable, not the cheapest but I dislike public charging just because of cost. I've recently had to buy a diesel just for one contract where I'm doing 500+ round trips for 6 months. Much rather use the MG but when the range drops below 200 in winter it just isn't viable to pay public charging prices. When they are at an equivalent level to diesel it will be worthwhile. I don't believe any of the nonsense about 'paying to install infrastructure', prices weren’t higher to build petrol stations & yet they make a profit. Money comes from sales. That can be far more competitive as shown by continental prices. They need to be closer to 30p a KW to compete.

[@stephenbagwell8275]

The price of BP Pulse AC chargers varies by location. They have plenty available in York at 39p

[@stephenbagwell8275]

At The Rock Multi Storey car park in Bury there’s only one Be.EV charger with 2 bays. Up to 50 kW DC & 11 kW AC. Today I parked at one of their 7 kW chargers & got full power it’s usual to get a lot less

[@ukinfamous]

Hopefully picking up a Kona 64kwh tomorrow, we were going to take it to Scotland in two weeks time but the chargers make the cost per mile very expensive! At 80p kwh at motorway services and optimistically getting 4.5 miles per kwh, it would cost us 17.8p per mile whereas my diesel would cost 0.13p per mile at 48mpg. The trip is 1200 miles there and back, taking the Kona would cost £57.60 more! Really think there should be a price cap looked at and a regulatory body put in place, these companies are not paying more than 25p kwh, after VAT we can assume they clear around 42p per kwh profit. Strange they're allowed to sell electricity for more than they pay for it yet campsites can't!

[@computerbob06]

Should use the Kona and joined Tesla (unless you don't enjoy certain salutes) for £9 a month and probably half your fuel cost and let the car drive itself up the motorway!

[@peterlucy1519]

You need to do a bit more research. Most, if not all of charge place Scotland chargers are 55p kwh or 51p kwh if your electric is with Octopus & using the electroverse app/card. I used tesla supercharger for my Skoda Enyaq (non tesla ev) at Gretna Green last week, and that was 51p kwh. Get the electroverse card even if your not with Octopus energy as it covers almost all CPO's. Bear in mind that if you charge at home your going to get max miles on 100% charge for probably £5.

[@ukinfamous]

@peterlucy1519 I don't need to do any more research, I can charge at home for 5p kwh with Tomato Energy, used zapmap and can see the prices of the motorway services. Fact remains, prices should be capped, a campsite can not charge more than they pay for electricity so they can cover the cost of metering but these big companies can make an obscene markup.

[@ukinfamous]

@computerbob06 will look into tesla chargers for this trip, we will start at 100% from home charging so at 5p kwh it will bring the average price down

[@bobedwards9063]

Hi Dave EV on the Go have just opened at a new location at Finmere services in Buckinghamshire. These are 4 Tesla V4 units and the sign on entry says 43p KWH may be an opening offer Bob Edwards EV6 Driver and loving every minute of driving it

[@StephenButlerOne]

Do you have a new camera Dave? Picture quality looks great.

[@davetakesiton]

No Stephen different settings in post production thanks for noticing, learning all the time. Darn tricky all this video tech

[@StephenButlerOne]

@davetakesiton whatever them setting are, save them. The picture looks really sharp, but in a soft warm way. Hard to describe, but it looks great.

[@FARTOOSHORT]

Hi Dave. Charging challenge? Have a look at, ‘Me and Mon Ami - Nice to Barcelona’. Enjoy!

[@lr9747]

Hi dave, loving the content, the only issue i have with these apps is that we have to install yet another app and the company gets the benefit from it, yes the price can be decreased slightly but these companies need to stop being so greedy. Yes they have invested large sums of money but trying to recoup that money far too soon by charging the earth...this is not going to help anybody with the switch to EV. I have an ev on order at the moment and pricing is a massive let down for anybody regardless of ice or ev cars. Down the road there is 2 garages right next door to eachother one is shell and the other is GO...shell is far too expensive and the station is pretty much empty whilst the GO literally next door is full must of the day. This approach needs to be replicated in the ev charging sector. Atleast with electric power, companies cannot pull the wool over people's eyes and say there's great additives in this petrol which will help your engine live longer and so on......😂 Ev power they can't possibly use any such excuse for this. Another point is they don't have all the transportation costs as it's passed through cabling instead of tankers! Can you organise a petition with your growing following and see we can all do to fight the prices? :)

[@djtaylorutube]

Replace transportation costs with grid connection costs. Have you priced up a 1 MW connection recently?

[@lr9747]

@djtaylorutube no but it's not going to be an every day cost is it? How many tankers visit petrol stations every week? The connection would be expensive i bet but surely it can't be anywhere near as expensive as transporting petrol and diesel every day :) If you can find out how much it costs to do this and then compare it to a 1 time grid connection then that might be a good discussion :)

[@djtaylorutube]

@@lr9747 I don't know what the difference would be, yes fun comparison to do but after pricing up a three phase domestic connection with about 50m of trenching was enough. Then there's the equipment, those high power chargers aren't cheap. Finally add in the investors who want a quick return and an exit strategy, they're not in it for the long game.

[@lr9747]

@djtaylorutube you do have a point yes, but then what about the consumer? Surely the government should step in and basically say stop being greedy with them pushing for the quick EV turnaround mandate? Completely get what you're saying with it all i agree. The government need to do more to balance out a realistic fair price for the consumers the very people the want to buy these ev's :D

[@djtaylorutube]

@lr9747 Maybe but at what cost? Let's remember that it's a previous Conservative government that privatised the utilities, distorted the pricing model to the marginal system we have today and hence the ridiculously high prices being demanded by peak plants, owned by foreign companies that hold us to ransom before agreeing to power up, like two did a couple of weeks ago. £12 million paid to two gas generators for three hours of generation. Seven Trent Water: "Bills will rise oh and we're paying more in dividends...". Then we all scream and complain while forgetting that our pensions are invested in these companies. What to do? 🤷

[@ians3328]

What about the plunge pricing Octoverse is throwing into the mix 40% off from a lot of suppliers. YES Canopys.....

[@neilmick6778]

Absolutely nothing wrong with Electroverse, always works for me. Seems like you're in some kind of Tesla love in on this channel.

[@davidcorcoran193]

Octopus energy card above sunshade not a customer for them but has been brilliant as backup for trips.... Need to use as rfd card.... But never had a problem oh and no recharge with it....

[@GarethLewis-f5x]

I’ve never had an issue with my electroverse card, Dave. 🤷‍♂️

[@S0me0ne_S0meWhere_SaysHi]

It would be interesting to see what you think of EV public charging in the southeast. Near where I live I think it's diabolical 😞.

[@davetakesiton]

I’m shortly to find out

[@keithware5314]

Hi Dave what happened to the price war you mentioned? Gridserve have not kept their prices down as you suggested they are back up to 79p.

[@Un-Apologetic]

The more EVs that are reliant on these criminal gangs mean only one thing. Prices will go up and up and up and up and up and up and .... Well you get the jist.

[@philharrison7886]

Hi Dave. I own a BYD seal had model y before this. You’ve streamed on the v4 tesla chargers at Preston,are these open to all as they don’t show up on the tesla app map?

[@stephenbagwell8275]

Yes the V4 Tesla Superchargers at Walton Summit Preston are open to all & I think the units are in the centre of the parking spaces which is better for non Tesla cars. They’re on the Tesla app

[@philharrison7886]

@ maybe my Tesla app for non tesla is not upto date

[@philharrison7886]

Found it👍

[@stephenbagwell8275]

@ they’ve started installing chargers at the nearby Sainsbury’s - I wonder if they’ll discount the price to compete with Tesla

[@simonpettit8548]

They are on the Tesla app as Preston, UK - South. Just off the motorways at Bamber Bridge. I charge my Peugout e-208 there from time to time. Don't forget to register your reg number at the hotel reception.

[@skippercaship]

Hi can you do a totorial video on how to use various chargers for the Nissan Leaf 2021 model? I am thinking of buying one but totally confused by all the diffirant options? or if you have allready can you give me the link please

[@davidthomas8662]

What are your thoughts on the epidemic of cables cut? Kidderminster at present I think has atleast 12 chargers all with wires cut. Maybe you have the ability to question cpo as to what they are doing to combat this?

[@fairman1455]

Hi Dave a Question? If the main battery in a Hybrid goes faulty with no output to drive the electrical motor in the Hybrid, then will the hybrid car still run as a ICE only car?

[@davetakesiton]

I also would like to know the answer to that one as I fear a large number of PHEV batteries that never get charged through the plug are likely to suffer premature damage

[@chrisspanswick7312]

It would be nice to have a special offer for visitors to the UK. Charging is much cheaper here in Canada but it's generally expensive when we visit UK.

[@djhvideo]

8 Applegreen CCS chargers installed at the new Welcome Break Rotherham services on the M1 jn 33. Also 20 Tesla units

[@stephenbagwell8275]

When are the V4 Superchargers going to be operational at the Tesla Centre “Manchester Central” near the Manchester City football stadium?

[@davetakesiton]

I was there last week and told it's Q1 2025, in the next few weeks

[@MarkHewitt1978]

@@davetakesitonThere was only an article about planning permission a few weeks ago. They've started work already?

[@johnnychan729]

I managed 133kwh Free on Christmas Day at Gridserve on a trip to Scotland. MG4.

[@davetakesiton]

Neat!

[@paddylogan13]

EV OTM have at least a couple of doors that charge a reduced price of 49p - Colne and Cooper's Lane in Liverpool.

[@richardevans372]

Hi Dave I’m a model 3 taxi driver with 264,000 on my clock I mostly do airport runs , how come both Manchester and Liverpool airports do not have ev chargers close by ?

[@BeingD2023]

yes fastned may have membership but the number of site in the uk is still restrictive. only 4 in all Scotland. none in wales. when i 1st seen them there was about 8 sites all around newcastle but meant no traveling. and i would say to you i bet you can not road trip with were they are and only use them.

[@AyselBurak-d1j]

Can you please do an updated video on IONITY and village Hotel deal Swansea Has IONITY chargers in the car park but these are not commissioned yet if you could get any information maybe a video would be lovely.

[@mikehainsworth747]

what’s the latest date for chargers at Tesla near Etihad please Dave

[@davetakesiton]

I was there last week and was told Q1 2025. Any time in the next few weeks

[@mikehainsworth747]

@ thanks for that Dave, looking forward to it

[@stephenbagwell8275]

I use the Electroverse app if the RFID card doesn’t work

[@AndyJHiscock]

If you use octopus octoverse to chsrge, you don't have any preauthorisation charge, sadly no additional discount. You don't need to be an Octopus energy customer either

[@smartmart1958]

Rochdale Riverside Shopping centre have 6 free chargers. Only 7kw shared. You just pay the parking charge. I was talking to a lady that does not have a charger at home. She parks at Riverside and jumps on the tram using her OAP pass comes back 5 hours later. Cost £3

[@johnbaker5533]

Those free ones will go away, as they should, if they used that way.

[@stekeeley1936]

Ev on the move has something tied to tesla cos I've used the one on the east lancs through my tesla app. Says membership price 49p I think, maybe 50p.

[@johnbaker5533]

They use Tesla hardware (that tesla maintain) pricing the same for Tesla or non-tesla 65p normally but new stations get an introductory offer (normally for a few months)

[@killieblues]

I used Osprey for 6 failed charges using my credit card and I had to wait 10 days for the credit of £180 I think it was to be released. It definitely isn’t after you have charged at all providers!

[@MarkHewitt1978]

There are an awful lot of charger networks. Including many not featured. Do you think there will be some consolidation in the coming years? We appear to be in a bit of a land grab phase at the moment. But this usually ends up with companies then looking to expand by buying out their competition.

[@lenrobinson9767]

Newish Shell recharge at my local Waitrose 120kW is 74 pence/kW. Not 85p you mentioned. Is this reduced pricing due to Waitrose??

[@rayjones9231]

You didn’t mention Sainsbury’s

[@JeffreyLear]

6.9p at home 20p at work

[@computerbob06]

And? Why comment here when it's not public charging!

[@lordthomasmacrae9963]

Well the A303 corridor is bad for charging and I can never work out pricing (especially for motability users) i given up and thinking going back to an ice car

[@GruffSillyGoat]

Amebury services on the A303 (think its called solstice park) has a lot of chargers by many CPOs - Instavolt, Gridserve, BP Pulse and Tesla (open to all). Some in the car parks of the food various food outlets.

[@grahamsmith6443]

Will apple green still exist, as I know eg on the go has bought the forecourt business

[@teddy143ify]

Am fairly new to ev getting my Renault Scenic mid October and loving it, at the moments I charge at home and a little in work for nothing , was told they are free to use by employee although they are mainly a tax perk for company cars do ì ďont go mad, my question is why are public charges so high and do they need to be so high, is it down to the cost of the charges or are these companies just trying to make as much as they can. The government are pushing for net zero although starting road tax and this supper tax on cars over £40000 which most ev are ,the the talk of being charged per mile as they are not getting the revenue like they make on ice cars, ev charging on cheap electricity but it's cheap becouse it's excess. Ops gone on a bit of a tangent but love to know why and what people's thought. Am with octopus and they changed my tariff twice as sometime I charge a couple of times a week then nothing for a week to ten days I posted on a octopus forum and removed my post becouse of nasty replies . If you had a choice 80p ,7p or free per kw what would you choose

[@miketowler322]

The electroverse card is free to all

[@paulweston1106]

BP Pulse have removed their charger near to me, it looks like it wasn't making them enough money to warrant making it compliant with the Public Charge Point Regulations. Probably wasn't get used because it was only 50kW and too expensive.

[@leeproctor7622]

i use the instavolt atfter 2200 and thay only take £1 which gets addded to your overall charge. which is good pity its expensive at normal times. i also have an shell RFID Card and regulary plug in at my local Aldi which is 22KW And always get 11KW which is the max for my Kona.

[@ihaynes9176]

I have just getting a Tesla AWR and before I took the plunge I did some calculation. Cannot beat a good spreadsheet. My diesel BMW seres 3 tourer 320D average over the 70000+ miles 49.8 miles per gallon. I am now retired and I on average doing 700 miles a month. and I paying around £80 in diesel. So I calculated that I will do around 175 KWh per month and if I get 4 miles a KWh. It would cost me, if I charge at home with Octopus Intelligent Go £12.25. So a good saving. Sadly my driving style will mean it will be worse. Still was the point have having a fast car if you are not going to enjoy it. Time will tell. But it all goes horribly wrong once charging on the road. Anything over 46p KWh and I am paying the same as diesel cost. Around the average price for a fast charger say 80p it around £140 per month. Yes you can get 30p if you charge with 22KWh charger but who want to sit for hours to get any decent range so you have to go to the expensive Ultra Fast Charger route. Dave you spoke that petrol and diesel is much more expensive on the motorway which is correct but usually a couple miles off at a junction you find cheaper fuel prices or the car will be doing 500 miles before filling up. Over my 70000+ miles I never used a motorway petrol station. Thats not the case with chargers. You mentioned that in France it's a lot cheaper. Now we come to the crux that we pay the most in Europe for electricity. Until that drops considerably people will not be buying into electric cars. Sadly that going to be a least a decade away. The average person who hasn't a drive to charge their car could not afford the costs.

[@johnbaker5533]

The 'average' person would charge at home and only occasionally fast charge. Overall for the year it is cheaper even if you choose to pay 80p rates. Many chargers are cheaper than that.

[@gordonrennie217]

Fusse Leighton Buzzard A5. 17 CCS charger 39p per KW up to 150kw/h

[@andylucas4031]

Wales is so far behind on EV charging,Only ones i charge at are Teala open to all in Carmarthen.12 chargers they are not pay as you go yet.Plus you have to pay 3 to 4 pounds parking.There are 6 chargers at macdonalds but these chargers are at the front door,you can never charge at these because non EVs park there.And theres not alot of other chargers that are about.Its really crap here in Wales.

[@Thecardetailingnut]

Anyone having issues getting a Tesla Model Y accepting a Virtual Key to Octopus Intelligence keeps saying unable to grant Third party access its driving me mad please help

[@Un-Apologetic]

This episode is great. You've seen the light and are now promoting why we shouldn't bother with an EV. Good work at last.

[@tangoadvance8393]

Did you watch a different video to this one? Weird comment....

[@Un-Apologetic]

@tangoadvance8393 he's highlighted just how utterly shit the charging network is in rip off Britain.

[@davetakesiton]

Maybe I should do a video on the price of petrol at motorway services you wouldn’t be laughing then

[@Un-Apologetic]

@davetakesiton I would because my diesel does enough miles that I don't need to refill for 600+ miles. I'm not at the mercy of the most expensive fuel on the market. I can fill up at Costco for £1.31 a litre and take extra fuel with me if I wish. You can't take a can of electricity with you ......

[@albanblunt4299]

Fastened in Hamilton advertises up to 300kW but fastest I have managed in Ioniq5 has been 30!! This in spite of warm battery, and nobody else charging. Avoid!!

[@rayjones9231]

MFG to acquire 337 Morrisons forecourts as Morrisons takes a minority stake in MFG in deal worth £2.5bn

[@colinrobinson7869]

As most will say the best location is your own drive for me 8.5p per KW lovely jubbly just looked at the clock and in 1/2 hrs the car will start sipping the electrons and I'm of to bed. Good night all.

[@zoomcctv]

When your paying £15 for a coffee and sausage roll at Tebay then 69pkWh might seam like a bargain 🤣

[@Brian-om2hh]

I wouldn't pay £15 for a coffee and sausage roll at Tebay. I'd charge up there, then leave Tebay services using the staff exit/entrance, and get a coffee and sausage roll from the village shop in Orton for around £4.50, just 4 minutes drive from the M6....then re-join the M6 using the same services staff entrance..... Excellent cafe in Orton too - it's won National awards - with food prices around 50% to 60% of what Tebay services charge.

[@zoomcctv]

@ I’ve only done it once, but the place is always queued up out the door when I use their toilets. So people must be prepared to pay their extortionate prices

[@foppo100]

Its always the price isn't it.Why can the continentals do it so much cheaper? Is it greed on our behalf or just the way it is.Take it or leave it.We need far more destination chargers hotels supermarkets streets charger .I have a non Tesla so i have to hunt for Tesla chargers.I haven't been on a long trip yet in my E Belingo real range I reckon is about 150 miles.I just pay can't be bothered with the stress anymore looking for a cheaper rate at 75.I am a carer for my disabled wife that is enough stress for me making sure she is ok.I enjoy our EV believe me but I miss my old1.5 Turbo diesel fill up and off we went on a long trip.

[@amazoniaamazonia7225]

I know these suppliers are businesses with overheads, but paying anything over 40p a kWh is a ripoff.

[@ComeJesusChrist]

Wait until the government introduces fuel duty on public charging, full VAT on home charging and the mad mandate will cull the car industry! How much are you willing to pay for your public charging when you have no other option?

[@Un-Apologetic]

Gridserve like all of them them apart from Tesla are making hay why the sun shines to get their outlay back as they know they're on a limited timescale before EVs drop to a level that's unsustainable for them to operate.

[@tangoadvance8393]

Is this an attempt at "who can post the most stupid comments in an hour?"

[@tkhodgson2]

I think you're all mad. You have convinced yourselves this is the way forward, you ignore your carbon footprint to build 32" screens that no one needs to charge or fill up, have no concerns for you carbon emissions building your vehicles, couldn't care less for the damage you cause mining material all because you can kick the can down the road and say it's someone else's problem. The biggest problem with Dave is that he claims to be unbiased but cannot accept anyone disagreeing with him. That's not unbiased Dave. I challenged Dave a couple of months back, his response was I am too stupid to understand. Good job Dave.

[@killieblues]

If you don’t like us having EVs then why watch it? I don’t tell you what to buy and it is absolutely no issue to you if I or anyone else drives an EV. Get a life!

[@Un-Apologetic]

Who the hell wants to sit in a lonely dark car park at midnight to charge cheaper than the criminal gangs normally charge Then to have £40 taken from your bank account only for the charger not to work. Move to the one next door to have another £40 taken from you bank account. It then takes months to get your money back. Public charging is for one thing and one thing only ........ To rip people off.

[@paulweston1106]

You could combine it with your other hobby, Dogging.

[@Un-Apologetic]

@paulweston1106 you can move to as many as you like when Dogging and you don't pay £40 to find she doesn't take it up the front trumpet 🎺

[@foppo100]

@@paulweston1106 I have no dog might get a cat to take for a walk.

[@stevedavies-pp7dp]

I’m saving even more by not purchasing an EV in the first place … no MASSIVE DEPRECIATION despite only do the low miles owners do ( they give up going anywhere ) and range anxiety thinking of where the next petrol station is isn’t something to consider , then there’s the ‘luxury car tax’ as all EVs fall above the £40,000 limit then there’s I can service /repair it at the local garage , can’t take it on a ferry , and unlike a Porsche can charge it at home … you really must need an IQ test to purchase an EV with your own money

[@crm114.]

Your comment makes no sense. I think you’re the one that needs a test of some description.

[@stevedavies-pp7dp]

@ hence my comment about an IQ test required

[@GruffSillyGoat]

Luxury tax applies to ICE cars equally, has done so for a while, plus the hugher tax bands that typically apply to expensive ICE cars with their larger engines. Of course the government has stated they're reviewing the previous governments decision to bring EVs under the same luxury definition as ICE. In all likelihood EVs will get a higher luxury threshold point than ICE. As to ferries, best to read the actual announcement and not the spin. The ferry companies haven't banned EVs they just extended the non-refueling T&Cs that applied to ICE cars to electric vehicles/devices of all types (scooters, bikes, generators and EVs) stating these cannot be charged onboard.

[@peterlucy1519]

Yep, new ev cars drop like a brick in depreciation. So buy one second hand. I bought a 24 plate with 5k miles just shy of 26k. New it was 40k plus. The car is only 6 month old. Love it.

[@rm-kx8et]

In a nutshell if you can't charge at home electric cars are more expensive than ice cars, and don't forget to price in hours lost from charging on the road. The future my ar...e.

[@jonfrench7133]

oh dear we’re all heading for your arse then 😅. BTW even at 80p the cost is equivalent, by a Tesla and you are at 31p. Oh with zero servicing. Running costs however much you don’t like it are cheaper, this is from a practitioner. And before you wade in with the depreciation mis information please do look at the autotrader stats, 3 yr depreciation within 2-3% of ICE equivalent. Hope you’ve got space in your bum

[@tangoadvance8393]

It’s better to be thought of as a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt............

[@jonfrench7133]

lol close the conversation down yoda is grumpy 😊

[@foppo100]

You make a good point that is why the majority of drivers won't change.And to be honest I can't blame them.I drive a E.V. But the whole EV system with apps here and apps there is a farce.

[@jonfrench7133]

not if you have a tesla, it’s easy peasy and cheapest by far. I agree with the apps point, to much fuss which is a shame because i’m having feelings for a taycan

[@williamnorth5277]

I’m not impressed by any of that. We have been conned with zero rd tax for small cars and evs. Now there’s enough of them about no more zero rd tax. Same with charging. All of a sudden charges are rocketing. Make a profit but taking the piss discourages people from buying evs. I have an ev but only because it was a bargain and I get free charging at work. Otherwise may as well stick to petrol.

[@davetakesiton]

Are you equally conned by the “buy one get one free” offers at supermarkets? What a load of utter twaddle. Do you demand they are there for all time or do you just make use of them to save money while they are there? Discounts and offers come and go all the time and are there to serve a purpose. Anyone who thinks they are there permanently are delusions.

[@djgoode]

So say 50mpg petrol £1,271.20 for 10000 miles. So anything 38p or less is cheaper if you can’t charge at home. And if you can it depends how much you need to charge while out so the price can go up.

[@williamnorth5277]

@@davetakesiton I prefer to shop at Aldi. Do not like loyalty cards like Tesco. Just say how much it is and stop penalizing people who don’t have a card and pop in for bits etc