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@GeorgeDemetz
@GeorgeDemetz 7 күн бұрын
There were also a number of other translated beings upon the earth.
@tomegbert438
@tomegbert438 9 күн бұрын
The Heartland vs Mesoamerica arguments about the Book of Mormon lands is a waste of energy in my mind. How long did it take for the Mormon pioneers to cross the plains to get to Utah, three months? That is what, around 2000 miles or so? So, whether Lehi landed along the North or South American coastline, how far do you think a people could migrate inside of a period of 1000 years?! 400 BC to 600 AD? The whole of North and South America is full of Nephite and Lamanite history. The whole face of the land was changed at the time of the crucifixion and prior to the visitation of Christ on the American Continent, so why argue about geographical resemblances to Book of Mormon descriptions? Like I said, it is a waste of energy. Better to put all that energy to work in redeeming Joseph and restoring them all to their rightful place in the House of Israel. While I was listening to this presentation, I will admit that my mind did ponder on what the church should use its vast financial resources for. I think that it is there, not only for the building of temples, but for the establishment and building of the New Jerusalem. Perhaps this remnant of the blood of Joseph will need it for subsistance while those of us who are converted/adopted gentiles assist them in building this great city.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 9 күн бұрын
To answer your question: "...how far do you think a people could migrate inside of a period of 1000 years?! " They would have explored every far corner of every part of both continents and would have known those places with most desirable climates in which to settle. In addition, they would have taken ships along the Pacific Coast upwards to Alaska and from there easily traveled from there to Kamchaka and places southward. Thank you for your remarks on those embarrassing models which assume a low intelligence of the inhabitants of the American Continents (racial bias?). This channel has detailed highly efficient highway systems which people of that era used to effectively get to varous points in both continents. I strongly agree with the points you make. Thank you for posting.
@Schtroumpsolis
@Schtroumpsolis 16 күн бұрын
thanks for sharing those stories.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 17 күн бұрын
The comments around 29:30 where the wishy washy members condemn someone (who is doing good) as evil, who is not really evil and when they are the ones that aren't doing well, in order to be rid of them still happens. I've seen this in my life time. Its also a thing that many nehors are among the members now, but people don't realize that they are there, or they don't seem to realize what's being done to them or in fact that some of their friends act like nehors. Some people have been impressed recently to talk about the nehors more this year in fact, which seems to be a sign that trouble is coming. ... @34:05 you can see this happening now with the music. they don't even play reverent music with the tabernacle choir half the time. They are doing music that is boastful and prideful now. And mixing in non-hymns. They sound prideful and not humble anymore either, except when they play hymns that demand reverence and humility in order to be played. They want to do exciting music and be seen and put up a show, often using non-LDS singers also now. Its openly visible. And they do it like described at that time marker with maybe 1 or 2 pioneer hymns or something reverent but the rest not reverent. The songs that aren't hymns may not have anything to do with true doctrine sometimes and just be stuff for fun.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for these observations, well said.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 16 күн бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher Thank u more. Ur videos always have great information.
@heidimisfeldt5685
@heidimisfeldt5685 15 күн бұрын
Surely there are enough talented people among us the Church members.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 17 күн бұрын
@19:00 I feel like I'm missing something when it said the old man was frustrated and angry to be there? It seems maybe that he thought the family were sinful maybe... but if I saw missionaries show up to my house and acting like that it would make me misunderstand the point of the message they brought. So I don't understand this part.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 16 күн бұрын
This is just how it was told to me, and I agree with you to some extent; frankly I also found it confusing, yet I can't rule out there might be some significance. There's a detail so strange that it is not likely anyone who was trying to fool us would have come up with it. I believe these kinds of things might even be there to help screen out those who imagine and expect an easy and clear answer to all of their objections. The tall grumpy man was definitely not there on a missionary task, he felt it was an imposition on his time, but why? Who could he have been? It just sounds like someone who was very busy and felt however this job was given to him was an extreme inconvenience; I would guess he was acting as if he had more important things to do. In stories about this apostle there are always aspects that are too strange to fit into anyone's narrative; I suppose that is a key part of the "pattern" I keep referencing. I included this because I do believe this account fits a pattern and it is a pattern that is difficult to define in words. But it is the last part that especially got my attention, as if the van disappearred: " I was astonished by his reaction. He roared like a lion that had just been whipped. He left the yard but I never saw the van go around the house and leave our little valley." Why was he so grouchy? I just have learned over the years some things do not fit anyone's narrative and are supposed to be thought provoking. Maybe something eventually comes up to provide better clarity on this aspect.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 16 күн бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher OH. I just remembered something. My old bosses were both J e w ish @ a certain company. They'd sound like they were angry and arguing and when I went to check on them to ask if they were all right they'd be like oh its fine we're best buds. It always went down like that, every week. Its a thing in their culture that they sometimes sound... prickly like cactuses. It seems that that culture also many of them are like this. Like they want to argue... I still don't quite understand it myself, but very consistent for them. But it does seem to show that the story is true and that tht guy really was John the beloved, and J e w ish. I guess the lion is a symbol of Judah also... although I'm curious if more ppl come forward w what thoughts they had on it. I also enjoy this trading of thought on this. Thanks.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 16 күн бұрын
@@noahriding5780 Interesting. The identity of the tall man remains a mystery, and the story behind how John, the visitor made arrangements to have that delivery made would be an interesting one. Who could that other man be, or was he just some ordinary guy who happened to be stuck with a delivery?
@CrackedCandy
@CrackedCandy 14 күн бұрын
​@thelatterdayteacher i havent gotten this far yet and clicked to save in my history to watch later, but had a missionary companion joke about John the beloved do splits with the three nephites. Maybe one of them were with him?
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 13 күн бұрын
@@CrackedCandy I don't think so, they think on a higher level than any of us
@Schtroumpsolis
@Schtroumpsolis 28 күн бұрын
my family was visited by john , on his last visit i saw him vanish in a swirl of light. that explained his other visit when dad sent me to hold him from leaving but he was gone ,vanished out of thin air with no place to hide.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 28 күн бұрын
To see him vanish in a swirl of light is not something I have heard of occurring before. I ask you to explain more, report more about what happened and what exactly were the details .
@Schtroumpsolis
@Schtroumpsolis 27 күн бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher he was walking away from the court entrance ,the swirl of light surrounded him from over his head as th swirl came down he just vanish. that was in plain sight , with no obstruction. its normal you havent heard if that since most recounting people dont see them go . the only prophet i recall being seen taken is isaiah if im not mistaken.
@dennie2619
@dennie2619 Ай бұрын
Remake the video with the volume up much higher
@Fred-ss3en
@Fred-ss3en Ай бұрын
The modern L.D.S. church removed it to borrow money from chase Bank
@Fred-ss3en
@Fred-ss3en Ай бұрын
The new and everlasting covenant is the teaching of polygamy in the Mormon church, taught by Joseph Smith that the only way into the highest kingdom of God is to practice polygamy.
@bonniestephens9622
@bonniestephens9622 Ай бұрын
I have had strong promptings recently that this is the time for the .descendants of of Lehi to fulfill the prophecies given in 2nd Nephi 16-17....promises given to them by Christ when He visited them here in America. it's interesting that these. chapters and versus are exactly what we are studying right now in the Come Follow Me program. And, thank you for clarifying the fact that We (the Latter-day Saints ) will be he assisting the native Americans in building Zion-----not the other way around. I have been watching podcasts featuring an Indian chief ''Chief Mjdegah" who has scrolls and records and claims to be a descendant of the Book of Mormon people... Have you-The Teacher seen any of these pod casts?
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher Ай бұрын
It came to my attention, but so have so many other podcasts with Native American themed discussions from descendants of the Book of Mormon people on fulfillment of Book of Mormon prophecies. I do believe the Lord has reasons to help the discussion become sparked among the many descendants of the Book of Mormon people at this time, and there will be many actors from those people who help bring his knowledge to light. That scripture you reference is certainly an important one, particularly vereses 8-9: "Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then I said: Here am I; send me. And he said: Go and tell this people-Hear ye indeed, but they understood not; and see ye indeed, but they perceived not." My father was one who dedicated his life to the spread of the gospel and the true meaning of the Book of Mormon. he being so anxious to see this mesage spread that for well over the last 20 years of his life he sent and paid for ads advertising this primary message of the Book of Mormon to Native American newspapers across the American continent. Joseph Smith is the one who was given the keys to this last dispensation, never to be taken away from him, and it will only be the words of Joseph Smith that guide this whole thing; that which is not the voice of Joseph Smith or bring his words to light shall not stand.
@Cali_Girl1
@Cali_Girl1 Ай бұрын
Look up KZbin Video: "RAPPER DIES & SEES THREE (3) GROUPS IN HELL" (Joseph Smith was one of them! ) 😩 His experience was quite compelling, and completely changed his life! I think every Mormon should listen to his Testimony, and decide for themselves what they think about it. Personally, I found it DEEPLY Disturbing, and rattled me to the core! 😫 I Don't believe he was lying about what he saw. The VIOLENT Spirital Attack he suffered after that Vision was also deeply distubing! He saw things in that Vision that Satan clearly did NOT want him to see - or tell others about! 👹
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher Ай бұрын
@Cali_Girl1 Stop posting your same tired talking points over and over. It looks like I need to block your spamming.
@findJoyHappinessandGod
@findJoyHappinessandGod Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@nancylowe2692
@nancylowe2692 2 ай бұрын
This was my first time listening to this channel. I enjoyed it very much! I love the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and love church history. Thanks for your reading & insights! I like to read the comments & I'm amazed that half of them are people looking for something to criticize & find fault with. They couldn't care less about what Joseph Smith or Orson Pratt had to say about anything, but they'll listen just the same. What a waste! Nice rebuttalls, though!❤❤❤
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words
@ScottDavis-gm3re
@ScottDavis-gm3re 2 ай бұрын
Light for a covering. Zion must needs be redeemed by power. Blood, fire, vapor and pillars of smoke ! The lifting up of the jewels that discernment be had.
@dustdustdust807
@dustdustdust807 2 ай бұрын
president or prophet?
@RecoveringUGrad
@RecoveringUGrad 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@anitakathleenpierce4420
@anitakathleenpierce4420 2 ай бұрын
Both
@judyeckerle4778
@judyeckerle4778 2 ай бұрын
Wish I could hear
@rosariobejarramirez
@rosariobejarramirez 2 ай бұрын
3 nephites came to Peru in the times of Terrorism, some brothers and sisters of the church has experiences
@colleenbender5897
@colleenbender5897 2 ай бұрын
Read the Book of Mormon. It speaks for itself. It is amazing. Christ visited the Americas. He set up his church. Joseph Smith was, indeed, a prophet of God.
@Cali_Girl1
@Cali_Girl1 Ай бұрын
Look up KZbin Video: "RAPPER DIES & SEES THREE (3) GROUPS IN HELL" (Joseph Smith was one of them! ) 😩 His experience was quite compelling, and completely changed his life! I think every Mormon should listen to his Testimony, and decide for themselves what they think about it. Personally, I found it DEEPLY Disturbing, and rattled me to the core! 😫 I Don't believe he was lying about what he saw. The VIOLENT Spirital Attack he suffered after that Vision was also deeply distubing! He saw things in that Vision that Satan clearly did NOT want him to see - or tell others about! 👹
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
I have often wondered if in our era, a repeat event of Alma 35 will occur again; where the Zoramites kick out their poor and, they go over to the people of Ammon to be rescued. (Because that's the only ones who were willing to help them.) And because modern culture places so much emphasis on materialism and wealth by the mainstream, this seems possible.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
I have been interested in this idea. But I didn't know you covered it. I'm a bit worried about this. Partly because not using the term 'Mormon' anymore can have double meanings. You sort of talked about this in another video with D&C 109, when you talked about the idea that if we 'pollute' this church and this land then we will be rejected. Both D&C 84 and 109 carry warnings against us polluting the land and the church. Also in 1 of Brigham Young's dreams, he dreams about a bunch of apostate 'mormons' dancing around and trying to get attention and not living the gospel. And in that dream he tells them they aren't mormons anymore, because of not living it. Here are the references; D&C 84:54 And your minds in times past have been darkened because of unbelief, and because you have treated lightly the things you have received- 55 Which vanity and unbelief have brought the whole church under condemnation. 56 And this condemnation resteth upon the children of Zion, even all. 57 And they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember the new covenant, even the Book of Mormon and the former commandments which I have given them, not only to say, but to do according to that which I have written- 58 That they may bring forth fruit meet for their Father’s kingdom; otherwise there remaineth a scourge and judgment to be poured out upon the children of Zion. 59 For shall the children of the kingdom pollute my holy land? Verily, I say unto you, Nay. D&C 109 fits with above w verse 20,21, 30, 40-52 seeming to focus on the prophet pleading that the saints may escape the judgments laid out in D&C 84; as well as Isaiah 24:3-6; the verse in Isaiah here spells out curses for changing the ordinances. ... Also... when you study how socialism and communism work, they work by erasing identity. You erase history, identity, landmarks, anything pointing to who you are. And then replace it with a new identity. And some of these kinds of people do try to push back and curb churches and religion. Deep socialism has always viewed religion as an enemy. And it so happens they are trying to take over the country. To do so they have to target and suppress previous leadership elements of all kinds including faith and religion. That's what they did in Russia when communism took over. So it comes down to... are we not mormons because we need to repent or because of some other reason? ... It doesn't make sense to erase, scriptures, or erase scripture identities also. We don't abandon the term Jacob or Israel. Or Nephi... or Isaiah. That's why this idea of changing things ... doesn't always make sense. IF something testifies of Christ, we sustain it and don't erase it. Mormon and Moroni testified of Christ. So... we wouldn't erase the name of their testimonies or their book. All records, prophets, testimonies that testify of Christ are sustained and honored. And not to be taken away. So the taking away of the name Mormon doesn't seem right to me. Also, the D&C says that the Book of Mormon is a COVENANT for our day. So we can't just erase the term Mormon. Because covenants are serious. This is stated in the D&C. There could be a danger also of some other country or g o v deciding they want to force changes in us; and that's kind of what happened near the end of the previous Christian era around 100 AD. Or maybe we're not qualifying by need to repent.
@ThomasGarrett-jl1bc
@ThomasGarrett-jl1bc 2 ай бұрын
May I share this with another KZbinr? “Christian Homestead channel 1:01:12 ” Jared Daviss? He is on the up & up.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your question. Information that intended to be public does not require permission. We all benefit if/when these stories are shared regardless of the medium used.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
If you bring people here from Christian Homestead, not all of the attention will be positive. There will be many negative aspects to this. I am neither for or against this but thought to say something so a more clear view can be gained.
@amybaker1880
@amybaker1880 2 ай бұрын
​@@noahriding5780 I agree. Jared is a follow the current living prophet type.
@amybaker1880
@amybaker1880 2 ай бұрын
@@noahriding5780 All of your assumptions doesn't make your false accusations against me true. I didn't say anything like what you claim. Your book to add to my words is interesting. Accusing me of doing what you are doing. You don't make sense.
@salliebo
@salliebo 2 ай бұрын
Great presentation.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@KaiJames44
@KaiJames44 2 ай бұрын
For credibility, please share who is creating this podcast.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
@KaiJames44 It's not about the messenger who delivers a simple message. The restored Gospel through Joseph Smith does not need to undergo a credibility check to check the qualifications for anyone who might be allowed to share it, it stands on its own. The messenger should not distract from the message and should not be the focus of whether the information should be judged as valid or not. The information in this presentation is available to anyone who desires to search it out and bring it out. Anyone can research the sayings of Orson Pratt and early church leaders, and present them as I have done. It may be that I do not identify myself every video but that does not mean I have not identified myself on this channel. I simply put out information that I know to be true and fully realize there is a much bigger work and I am only one small voice with limited means to put out what I is possible, within my limits.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
The messenger doesn't have to be seeking attention of his own for it to be legitimate. In fact, it actually lends more credibility that he isn't seeking fame or personal attention, personal gain. Many of us dislike the emphasis on other channels of the persons involved putting forth their personal fame ahead of their messages.
@ericbyers235
@ericbyers235 2 ай бұрын
Now that we know that the native Americans are not descended from the tribes of Israel and are actually from Asia, how does that impact all these words of prophets and scripture claiming they are?
@alanbird7803
@alanbird7803 2 ай бұрын
Sorry. We don’t know that.
@ChrisTrainor46
@ChrisTrainor46 2 ай бұрын
There are 5 founding fathers of the Native american tribes. 4 are asia based, and 1 is "European" based containing an X marker in their DNA. The X marker is found among the Druids as also around the middle east. The Indian tribes that contain this marker happen to be the Algonguin speaking tribes on the eastern United States. Mic Macs, Algonguin, Cherokee, Pawtawotame, Sauk/Fox, etc. When National Geographic one time was doing their Genome project, they had on their website highlights of people from around the US with their migration path. A migration path that followed their DNA. Of those, they had an Algonquin native highlighted, and in the description they literally said they didnt know how they got here because there wasnt a migration bread crumb trail like there was with the other founding Native fathers that came over the bering straight etc. They hypothesized that they may have come by boat. but they left it inconclusive. Also, in the intro to the Book of Mormon, it mentions that the Nephites/Lamanites were not the only peoples living here, that they were "among" the inhabitants already here.
@txcin
@txcin 2 ай бұрын
@@ChrisTrainor46that intro was edited to say among. It was claimed by Joseph Smith that they were the direct descendants of the people in the Book of Mormon.
@salustone6545
@salustone6545 2 ай бұрын
They came from Jerusalem, NOT Asia.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
@ericbyers235 A conversation which is based on the limits of what you do not know, refuse to know, and do not care to investigate is one which seem to be futile to attempt. You seem to take confidence in the solid footing of your intentional ignorance. If you are an expert on all of the people of the Book of Mormon you would be aware that early leaders did teach that Jaredites may very well have set sail from the coast of China. Coriantumr dwelt with the Nephites for a time and they also joined up with a separate group of people in the Mulekites. Has your unquestioned research accounted for the multiple variations which may not be known from these and multiple other simple facts, or are you simply content to post vain talking points that have been planted in your brain without you ever having been required to do any work to verify what has been propagandized into you?
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
@14:39 I thought it was interesting that this talked about polluting their inheritances and D&C 109. I had been thinking about those very verses recently, and then they are in your video; And it correlates with some verses in D&C 84. And it so happens that President Nelson recently talked about D&C 109 also. The verses in question in D&C 109 fit with 84, both about warnings I think(?). What a coincidence that they'd talk about this now when the world is doing its best to become as bad as possible... unless its not a coincidence. We'll probably know when its polluted when that which has been forbidden because of unworthiness will be given to the unworthy; they are already trying to make certain things acceptable.
@andrewreed4216
@andrewreed4216 2 ай бұрын
Actually, the nemenhah records name the individual (Actually all 3), and I don't think the church is to keen to know those records because they state a lot more about the priesthood women have automatically from birth. Theres a lot out there, all it needs is decernment. And remembering the focus is christ. I hope we can all find what we are looking for. Other interesting reads (which need decernment) are (1) the kailedy gospel (2) the silk road gospel (3) acts 29 More is coming from the Maori in future, hopefully, as i live in Australia and many island people speak of more information, but chief midegah does know about the Maori records
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
"The Nemenhah Band is a religious group founded and headed by Phillip "Cloudpiler" Landis. It was founded circa 2000 and claims about 4,000 members.[1] It practices alternative medicine, specifically natural medicine.[1] "The group says that it is composed of Native American healers and those "spiritually adopted" into the band. According to the Nemenhah Band's website, "membership is by spiritual adoption only." Those who seek spiritual adoption must agree that natural healing is a significant part of their spirituality and that they seek to do no harm. The Nemenhah band also provides a curriculum to become a "medicine man" or "medicine woman". Some Native Americans have criticized the group's practices.[2]" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemenhah
@irajones9952
@irajones9952 2 ай бұрын
In haudenosaunee culture the women hold a much bigger role for instance they choose chiefs and can remove chiefs (from her clan) she is the land title holder , the land is connected to the female she raises the children but has the help from the other family (female) members in her long house she take charge of the planting season what will be planted and how much ect just to much to list so I don’t think we in todays society understand the role of a woman not even in the LDS (culture) church. the woman is the creators greatest creation just think about it just by the birth process alone speaks of their power !! There are 3 elements that appear at the birth of a child (water , blood ,and spirit) and the same 3 elements appear during Jesus living ministry water (baptism) blood (crucitfition) and spirit (assention) so I feel somewhere along the line the female role was replaced with the male or the male took on more responsibility than was originally intended
@annalloyd2180
@annalloyd2180 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think that the LDS people are ready to truly understand this kind of Priesthood. We as women have a completely different role and a completely different Priesthood then what a man holds yet the women want the priesthood that a man holds. This is what modern feminism has done. Women is powerful in our god given femininity. I love the records of the Menenhah people. Changed my whole outlook on our dreaded monthly cycle when I learned that the men had to give a blood sacrifice every month to God but women didn’t take part in it because we already give a blood sacrifice to bring about humanity. BEAUTIFUL!!!!!
@amybaker1880
@amybaker1880 2 ай бұрын
​@@thelatterdayteacherDo you have a link to the records mentioned?
@danielburns4483
@danielburns4483 2 ай бұрын
@@annalloyd2180 where did you hear/read about the monthly blood sacrifice? I'd really be curious to read, I think that would give some close friends of mine some beautiful insight.
@russellricksbooks2579
@russellricksbooks2579 2 ай бұрын
Could this "like unto Moses" individual be someone like Chief David Midegah?
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
The only question I would ask you or anyone with an idea or suggestion on this would be, does that individual align with Joseph Smith in his teachings? Same, different, a little bit the same, a little bit different, how is the fit? There are a lot of "kind of" what Joseph Smith "might" teach out there and they find they have powers of persuasion with certain people. I don't know for sure if I would instantly recognize such an individual myself, but unless that person aliigns with what Joseph Smith taught and would teach today I will not be in a rush to join with anybody.
@Yazzie60
@Yazzie60 2 ай бұрын
No!
@unholywarrior9007
@unholywarrior9007 2 ай бұрын
Has he really revealed anything yet that is enlightening? Are we just hoping his scrolls has something new ? It's just going to be like rhe dead sea scrolls . Mostly disappointing and we might see something 200 Yeats after there found
@MrHFMetz
@MrHFMetz 2 ай бұрын
You could find the answer in the book "The one like unto Moses" by Rhea Allred Kunz. This man is alive today, as she explains, but his name is not mentioned in the book. It is a very good book to read and I recommend it. Greetings from the Netherlands.
@mroldpersonmrpasserby6084
@mroldpersonmrpasserby6084 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your farsighted post, IMO: Chief David Midegah is a possible "like unto Moses" candidate. I would be excited to witness Chief David Midegah going forward in that direction, especially if the "scepter of power" is used to give him an anointing and or entrusted to him to carry with him. D&C85
@stevenhenderson9005
@stevenhenderson9005 2 ай бұрын
🤔 Sometimes people tell stories to establish meaningful narratives that support one's belief. The Iroquois Native people would have designated story tellers that would create stories out of a frame work. They considered these stories to be a translation in a broader sense of the word. As interesting as stories like golden plates, reserected angels, or visions from stones in a hat may be, studying the Book of Mormon is most rewarding when focusing on its primary purpose - to testify of Jesus Christ who is the symbol representation of the good of mankind.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
@stevenhenderson9005 - I am not sure what exactly is your point. There have been men in leadership positions whould would "tell stories to establish meaningful narratives that support one's belief", e.g. Paul H. Dunn. But when the truth came out that was not a good thing for his agenda. "Stories" from people like the Iroquois might very well be from an oral tradition passed down over the centuries that are retelling truths in a different "Frame work" as you mention, but I would caution on labeling them just stories, when in reality the challenges of translation might be the cause for analogies of explanation that do not seem normal to the English language, but in the native language are perfectly truthful and make perfect sense. As for "visions from stones in a hat" I challenge you to produce a credible and verified original church source to provide a solid example that will lend credibility to your choice of words here (e.g., "narratives", "symbol representation", "stories" etc.) Otherwwise your comment stands as it comes across, speculative, an embellished speculation attempt to justify (and perhaps cover up) some sort of "intended symbol representation" of "narratives" that really do not have a foundations in real facts. That is not the type of message or approach that contributes to spreading the truthful gospel.
@gospelbookreviews
@gospelbookreviews 2 ай бұрын
I just think it's so funny how people have to always make critical, negative comments on others videos. I know they are putting it out into the world to an audience that can receive it however they want, but I wish we would all stop being so contentious and debateful. I found this video really cool and testimony building about the purpose of the Book of Mormon being to gather the house of Israel and all of God's people he loves. I found the love of Jesus through thinking about how he remembers all of His people.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@irajones9952
@irajones9952 2 ай бұрын
Hello I’m a cattaraugus Seneca (haudenosaunee ) from the wolf clan of western New York. The English called us the 6 nations and the French called us Iroquois but our proper name is haudenosaunee which means in English “people of the long house” let me know if I can help with any questions and thoughts you might have about the haudenosaunee !!
@irajones9952
@irajones9952 2 ай бұрын
There’s a good video which show how the haudenosaunee (Iroquois) were established it’s a KZbin video (PBS video called haudenosaunee legendary founding) we used shells to create wampum beads and weaved it into a belt with a design and each belt has a story attached to it and that story is told and retold to remind the people of their responsibilities that connect us to the creator !!! We have many wampum belts haudenosaunee =wampum belts English = contracts
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly what's happened. There are infiltrators in the church right now. I've been seeing some weird things for a while. Recently, I went to a friend and said, hey I have something important to tell you. I feel impressed from a prompting to tell you... and then I got interrupted and they changed the subject. So I have to reason, if people in the church don't want the holy ghost, or don't want someone to tell them when they have a prompting, then there's trouble. And indicating of infiltrators.
@richarner3856
@richarner3856 2 ай бұрын
Recently these infiltraters broke into Russell Nelson's house. They stole his living room furniture and replaced them with exact replicas
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
@@richarner3856 I'm not sure where you are going with that, was it a joke of some kind?
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
@noahriding5780 - I agree that the ploy you encountered is typical of a lot of people to avoid certain conversations. The trend is most people simply do not want to openly discuss things they find to be of a sensitive nature. But if this is really a "friend" there ought to be a way for you two to have an actual conversation that might be approached from a different angle than you informing him of a "prompting" that promises to put that friendship to a test. They may have just been protecting cordial relations with you, not being able to guess what kind of surprise you were going to spring on them.
@MrPatriotSon
@MrPatriotSon 2 ай бұрын
You need to turn up the volume .
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
Noted. I will double check settings on the next video.
@dreampurplequeen1
@dreampurplequeen1 2 ай бұрын
The 3 nephites helped me once...
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
I hope you will share the story?
@dreampurplequeen1
@dreampurplequeen1 2 ай бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher I'd love to
@rickyodom1201
@rickyodom1201 2 ай бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher i have talked with one he appeared in a old pickup i have storys from others who have seen him some called his name Robert Edge i hae seen many things in my 70 years on this earth there is god al mighty and book Mormon is the Gospel
@CrackedCandy
@CrackedCandy 2 ай бұрын
I looked on google maps, it was knocked over by a drunk 7 years ago. Look up Haunted pillar Augusta Ga, then the pictures posted by people. Edit, I hadnt finished watching when I posted this
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
Yes, shortly after the 7" mark that accident that destroyed it was recognized.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
I would be interested to hear more on the Wakoyama (or isn't it wakayama) appearances? And other Japan appearances? How does someone find out about the ones that aren't in 'He Walked the Americas', for areas outside of the US such as the Pacific? Its amazing you have so much information.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
I do not doubt there were visitations at some point but a search for any stories does not seem to find stories that clearly align biblically. There is a story about an island of Christians off the coast of Japan and I would not doubt this could have an authentic element about it, but nothing can be found at this time that is definitive enough to make it a video: www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/c12905/
@JohnMc-q8s
@JohnMc-q8s 2 ай бұрын
The Nephites were not Christians. Didn’t they travel to The Americas around 600 Before Christ.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 2 ай бұрын
False. I would urge you to read and get more familiar with the Book of Mormon to help you clear up that confusion. Sometimes we have questions posed on this channel, sometimes seemingly innocent regarding contextual uses of words. If we are looking at the strict context of that word it is simply a term we use that people understand refers to religion taught and practiced in the Bible. The people of Nephi brought over the same religion that they practiced along with ancient Jerusulem, the same religion as existed in the Bible. The term Christian at one point was actually used in deragotory ways to separate Christian followers from those other religious persuasions which existed from the Old Testament era, very much similar to how the term "Mormons" has been used.. The people of Nephi which you refer to, like the prophets of the Old Testament, had prophets which led them to these two continents and were never lacking in knowledge and principles of what we refer to as the gospel of Christians or Christianity.
@JohnMc-q8s
@JohnMc-q8s 2 ай бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher christ-ian is a follower of Christ Jesus. The Jadeites and left Jeru-Salem Jaredites This group left the Tower of Babel and arrived in the Americas about 2200 B.C. They flourished until about 600 B.C., when wars destroyed everyone but Coriantumr. (See Ether 1-15.) Nephites Lehi’s group left Jerusalem about 600 B.C. and came to the Americas. Gradually his posterity became divided. After Lehi died, the righteous followed his son Nephi northward. They became known as Nephites. (See 1 Nephi 1-22; 2 Nephi 1-5.) I am not knocking Mormonism simply saying happens over 2000 years and 600 years before Christ’s sacrifice. They were Hebrews following the ‘Moasic Law’. The strict context of Christian is a follower of Christ Jesus. Regardless of race creed culture and gender. If as the Mormon’s say after the Crucifixion Christ Yeshua appeared in the Americas then they might have become Christians. Christian is a title not an ethnic group. Christ’s teachings were for all of humanity breaking away from the constraints of the old Hebrew Folk Soul. In good ways John
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
This story about the robbers being here makes a lot of sense. And its quite interesting. FIRST, its said in the book of Mormon that there was curse on the land with terrible famine when Nephi asked him to replace their war with a famine. And that was also to get rid of the robbers. Helaman Chapter 11: Verse 4 O Lord, do not suffer that this people shall be destroyed by the sword; but O Lord, rather let there be a famine in the land, to stir them up in remembrance of the Lord their God, and perhaps they will repent and turn unto thee. Also see verse 10 O Lord, behold this people repenteth; and they have swept away the band of Gadianton from amongst them insomuch that they have become extinct, and they have concealed their secret plans in the earth. Anyway, here's where it gets interesting. When you go visit the Fremont indian sites and visitor center in Southern Utah, they tell you that they found a great big ruin that was a fremont city when they were building the highway through that area. So they made the visitor center and made a site to learn what they can and preserve it. Well when you visit that site they tell you they either left or... unknown, possibly died out because there was a terrible famine that went through that whole area. Multiple years of famine. Helaman 11 quotes multiple years for this famine. Historically there can't be that many periods that had trackable points of multi-year famine. (Interesting). (3 1/2 years for Hel 11(?).) Also, the native rock art and petroglyphs in Utah are different than in other areas of the country. Does this surprise you? I find that interesting and that it matches up with BY saying this was the place of the robbers. This is... not provable but here it is. When you go to other parts of the US, native american evidence is all over the place. Sure its often buried now and half erased. But it was mostly found in open areas. Areas where it was found easily. And people wrote books and articles about it a lot especially in the 1800s. It was easy to find and in the open. Now in Utah its different. Its a lot of the time the rock art is painted in hidden places. Places that are hard to go to. hard to get to. High places that would take a long time to go and find. This was such that native rock art in Utah is still being discovered from places that were hidden even after we've been here for 150+ years. Now if you were robbers, yeah you might have created a culture where people hide things. And what's also interesting is how that matches up with this: Alma 58: Yea, and it came to pass that the armies of the Lamanites did flee out of all this quarter of the land. But behold, they have carried with them many women and children out of the land. 31 And those cities which had been taken by the Lamanites, all of them are at this period of time in our possession; and our fathers and our women and our children are returning to their homes, all save it be those who have been taken prisoners and carried off by the Lamanites. Now isn't that interesting? Many petroglyphs and rock arts are religious in nature. Sacred. This means, ... OK if you were 1 of those people that got carried off, but had been religious and were now in a camp of these robbers. When Sunday came you'd go to the hills and mountains and pretend you were carving art in the rocks and sort of hide the religious aspect of it. The rock art in Utah some of them do have messages in them, but some are hidden by the art. And also you might be hiding your religion while a prisoner of the robbers. This offers an explanation of why the rock art in Utah is the way it is. The late Dr. James R Harris of BYU did some research on this, but has passed away many years ago; although he didn't write about the robber aspect of it. Others doing work in other states have done a lot on Hopewell native research. Well I can't prove this. But it fits. And its interesting.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for talking about this. One of the reasons why people HAVE to understand and acknowledge who Joseph Smith is, is that he is a type of Joseph of Egypt but for the latter days. If you don't acknowledge a Joseph in Egypt situation, then the rest of Egypt perishes. And isn't that the situation we're in? When you look at youtube footage of the metro areas of the US now, especially on the coasts, its starting to look and show how bad this country is. You can see actual real, drug zombies now. Now you can see real homeless tent cities, often from drugs, but some from just chronic illness also, and mass falling into ruin. And other filth. But it only started to get that way after we kicked God out of the country, and began oppressing religion and other virtues. And its showing how bad its becoming, just like a famine, only its spiritual famine instead. ... I actually like the idea that Joseph was home schooled and a farmer. BECAUSE it means he did not participate in social class warfare as talked about in Hel. 6, 3rd Nephi 6, and 4th Nephi, which was sourced to be a major cause of their destruction. So it is not negative to many.
@j.e.9017
@j.e.9017 3 ай бұрын
Do you think it's entirely possible that the secret combinations that Nephi used to obtain the plates from Laban were ultimately the very inspiration and model that the Gadianton robbers ran with and used to justify their actions and plunder ~550 years later?! 💕 keep up the excellent work
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 3 ай бұрын
No, I can't see how anyone would think that at all. I do not think there is an analogy there in trying to compare a one time mission of Nephi to secure a very important and significant item away from a man who held the sword but turned evil in the sight of the Lord. Gadianton Robbers are inspired by enlisting the evil traditions of Satan, which predate Nephi by thousands of years of practice and refinement by evil men on the earth. That in no way compares to a one time action by Nephi which was never duplicated after he obtained the sword. The dark works of Satan are very sophisticated and have been crafted to meet the times after thousands of years of practice.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 2 ай бұрын
Rather than that, look at the arguments of Laman and Lemuel. ; Nephi stole our birth right. Therefore let us kill him and take it back. In looking at their arguments, L&L wanted to kill Nephi over the right to rule, but they didn't covet the scriptures or the plates, which is kind of ironic and shows how flawed they are. L&L don't even have interest in the plates, ONLY in the right to rule. Also whats' very interesting is when you hear the arguments and literature of the marxists, they kind of quote the same thing; take back what's ours by force and by blood. (We're warned against winning property and lands by force and by blood.) The arguments of the robbers are,; so and so robbed us, so we'll rob them and therefore we're justified in this. This is their thinking. Later when you read the robbers letter in 3rd Nephi, and about them, they covet the right to rule. They didn't even want the records. They mostly wanted Laconius to hand over the right to govern to them. Not their records. The robbers taught this based on some corruptive adaptation of Nehor's teaching and other things also. Marxism harnesses hate this way and some middle east groups also recruit this way. There's a lot of similarity between marxism and the robbers; take back what's yours by force. (But in the end its a lie and only an elite group at the top get anything while others are held captive by them.) This is the same secret combination of Cain's murder of Abel, how a lot of evil was and has been done throughout the world since the beginning of time; also including Nimrod. Laman & Lemuel, they taught their children to hate Nephi, and Nephites. But there was no justification for them to do so. Nephi was blameless. They hated that he was appointed to be their ruler and teacher. Nephi was innocent. He can't be blamed for what others did. And it bothers me to acknowledge the source of the robbers to be Nephi as that would legitimize them. It doesn't legitimize them and Nephi was innocent and pure. Also the robbers didn't show up until much much later without anything in between. So its not valid to create similarities between the robbers and Nephi & the plates. Its a false argument, you can't win this way because it is against the Lord's way of doing things. Also; the plates... people don't understand how sacred they are. They did not belong to Laban. And he didn't get them legitimately. They were to be passed on to the most righteous people, the most righteous patriarchs in a family. Why do you think they are said to go get the plates? They weren't told bring Laban with them, who has the plates. Laban would not have been allowed to have the plates as (I would argue) he was living somewhat like King Noah. It would be better that 1 man should perish than that a whole nation (and hundreds of nations after) should die in unbelief. (Completely opposite of the robbers, who would murder whole nations for the right of 1 man to rule). Also people miss a very interesting argument. in 1st Nephi they quote, Laban has 50 soldiers, even he can command 50. So he can also slay 50, so he will slay us. Thus they feared him. If you think about it... if Laban had 50 soldiers... that's a lot of payroll. He could not have supported that many soldiers of a private army without having already been a predator before then. Laban was a murderer. So when he decides to plunder their gold when they went to trade for the plates, I believe he'd already had practice with that many times before; it doesn't say that, but he had no moral stumbling in making a fast decision on it, and look how many people he was employing. He was a predator. So when the Lord tells Nephi to slay him its reflective of Laban's actions, and history. And his judgment reflects what he deserves. You see the same pattern in Exodus; Pharaoh receives a judgment (the 1st born) The curse of the fallen firstborn of Egypt, reflects that the Egyptians already had tried to slay the hebrew male children once. And they were about to do so again. But the bottom line is The plates weren't Labans. He stole them. And many people think the plates originally came from Joseph of Egypt himself (reformed Egyptian...)(This last part I can't prove, but it seems to be the case.) I also hope this supports what 'thelatterdayteacher' said and believe it supports his answer. I also have found the videos of this channel very insightful and good. I hope he will share more of his thoughts and videos, and his gift to help others understand the gospel better.
@justinhayward42
@justinhayward42 4 ай бұрын
The Gospel has gone forth to the Lamanities. There are now more Members of the church in Central and South America than in North America. The seed of Joseph has been given the land of Zion. Ephraim and Manasseh now inhabit North, Central, and South America.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 4 ай бұрын
I find your comment interesting, primarily for the comparison of populations of church membership between one country, the United States, vs. the combined total of every other country to the south, including the continent of South America. That would be, give or take, about 7 million each, according to the information that is publicly available. The bulk of that growth in South America is encapsulated in an NBC News article, from 20 years ago: www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna5378318 Verse 11: "And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them." "12 And I will show unto thee, O house of Israel, that the Gentiles shall not have power over you; but I will remember my covenant unto you, O house of Israel, and ye shall come unto the knowledge of the fulness of my gospel." But it would seem that since then the growth has not been as explosive on that continent. I am not sure if you are asserting the numbers of membership in the church has "arrived" at acceptable growth levels. I would encourage you to re-think and reassess what exactly is the point you are trying to make here, based on the following facts: The continent of South America as a whole recently climbed above 443,000,000, according to Worldometer. That approximate 1% is a tough alignment to attampt if you consider the magnitude of Verses 11-12 are inferring. And these two continents remain under the power, if not assumed ownership of the governments that reside on them. I do not see that current power structure as having a connection to the church and restoring the lands to the people from whom they were stolen from. I invite you go back and rewatch the video where 3 Nephi 16 is explained. It is not a scripture that indicates slightly over 1% membership in a continent would indicate reaching the goal described in that scripture verse.
@StompMom5
@StompMom5 4 ай бұрын
Brigham Young teaching on hell 👌🤣. No one would know better than him considering that's where he is. Living a life of whoredoms, making up lies about our beloved prophet and founder, abusing his wife and family, rewriting Joseph's history. Yeah that pervs throne is now where king Noah is since he took on the same practices
@StevenODell-ff4ux
@StevenODell-ff4ux 4 ай бұрын
Volume of audio is very low.
@donnawark386
@donnawark386 4 ай бұрын
I just love this ! Thank you for sharing. It's just heart-warming it have an insight into the lives of this pure Christian family. I'm so blessed to have Jesus Christ restored gospel in my life and believe that the book of Mormon is indeed another testament of Him. I think about the great events that happened in the scriptures and am so excited about God's dealings with His children. I am fascinated to hear this families encounter with this servant of God . ❤
@GeorgeDemetz
@GeorgeDemetz 5 ай бұрын
Joseph Smith will return! He will be resurrected and lead the Saints again under Michael's (Adam) direction (see Daniel 12: 1-2).
@GeorgeDemetz
@GeorgeDemetz 5 ай бұрын
I don't have time to go into all if their stupidity, but, in short, there are so many of this new generation of conspiracy theorist that are led by Satan and are lifted up in pride because they THINK they have a lot of learning, and Satan uses them to discredit the church as well as it's prophets and apostles!
@GeorgeDemetz
@GeorgeDemetz 5 ай бұрын
Also, you have other educators that teach against what Joseph did. They say that he never practiced polygamy and they come up with all kinds of conspiracy theories to back up their lies for their idol God of political correctness just as Dr. Reeves did, and this also, despite what is recorded in the writings of Joseph Smith, other prophets and apostles, and the very scriptures themselves (see D&C 132). And, they do this despite overwhelming evidence and documentation. Any true honest historian, whether in the church or not, knows from all the available facts and evidence that Joseph had 30-40 wives! Continued...
@GeorgeDemetz
@GeorgeDemetz 5 ай бұрын
In this dream, the barn does represent the church, but they are not fighting against Joseph Smith, but against his teachings, and the are fighting, not physically with each other, but are cutting each other with their words in contention. There are some educators that are lifted up in pride who discount the teachings if Joseph Smith, other prophets and apostles, and even the scriptures themselves, and they have the support of a large faction if the church that fight against those that disagree. An example if this is Dr. Reeves essay in race and the priesthood. He teaches against what Joseph Smith and other prophets and apostles have taught, and even the very scriptures themselves (see Abraham chapter one, Moses 7:8, and Moses 7:22). This is a statement from Joseph Smith himself: "The curse is not yet taken off the sons of Canaan, neither will it be until it is affected by as great a power as caused it to come." I know inspired exceptions were made by Joseph Smith and others until as late as 1935, but these were inspired exceptions such a as Christ made for the Canaanite woman after initially refusing her as Matthew records. Continued...
@Fefo419
@Fefo419 5 ай бұрын
WRONG ! IN THE BOOK OF MORMON YOU NEVER READ THE 3 NEPHITES...YOU READ THE 3 DISCIPLES
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 5 ай бұрын
Are you really going to play those contextual games? So you think something has been discredited here, even though the specificity of the "three Nephites" (going back to the early church) has been a well used description of the "3 Nephite Disciples" as you might demand? What's eating away at you? Are you saying descriptive language to speak of three "disciples" cannot and shall not be used? If that is the case, how's that English language been working out for you these days? Do you find people find it comfortable to have a conversation with you considering your precise demands for how you expect everything to be defined and addressed? Who are you that you feel so entitled to correct the lexicon of church members for well over a century and a half? I'd love to hear your answer and even who you are to feel you are, to be so entitled to set parameters on how you expect the English language to be used.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 4 ай бұрын
Strange that you took the time to post this fallacy. It is you that is wrong: 4 Nephi 1:36  36 And it came to pass that in this year there arose a people who were called the aNephites, and they were true believers in Christ; and among them there were those who were called by the Lamanites-Jacobites, and Josephites, and bZoramites; 37 Therefore the true believers in Christ, and the true worshipers of Christ, (among whom were the athree disciples of Jesus who should tarry) were called Nephites, and Jacobites, and Josephites, and Zoramites.
@johnrowley310
@johnrowley310 6 ай бұрын
I love fairy tales.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 6 ай бұрын
Then you surely feel at home in today's era of history revisionism, maybe even with modern LDS intellectual scholars who do the interpreting for you.
@keithwheeler341
@keithwheeler341 6 ай бұрын
Section 132 is a joke much like most of the D&C sections that were made up to suit needs of the changing church (pushing it the direction the leaders wanted it to go) or to give Joseph full power, or sections that were changed from the original way it was given.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 6 ай бұрын
@@keithwheeler341 You are not making sense. What section of D&C to you claim are "sections that were changed from the original way it was given."? What is your point and where do you stand?
@keithwheeler341
@keithwheeler341 6 ай бұрын
​@@thelatterdayteacher if you compare the 1832 edition of Book of Commandments compared to the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants, you will see some damming changes made. Joseph Smith claimed that those first revelations came by way of the interpreters, word for word from God, and then changed them a few years later. I invite everyone to look it up. It's alarming.
@3thingsfishing427
@3thingsfishing427 6 ай бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher JS literally told his followers that Jesus said they should build him a house, all while he was "sealed" to his followers' wives. A deeply unhealthy belief system here. Not to mention telling Native Americans, who have been here for 20,000 plus years, that they are descendants of Jews. So unbelievably racist and incorrect. Please respect Native Americans, their stories, their sufferings, and their histories by abandoning this ridiculous fairy tale. Thanks.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 6 ай бұрын
I kind of wish men and women could understand each other more. It feels almost like we're 2 different species. And it feels like when you are dating or married to someone that, its difficult to not be pulled in entirely different directions. And especially society REALLY pulls women to want to do what other women want them to do. And as a priesthood holder I don't understand why women will want to be close to their kids but completely ignore their husband. All my life I've seen that once women get what they want, they ignore their husband and that he is the last thing on their mind. I don't understand this. And I don't see how this will ever be reconciled if this mentality continues. And its weird especially because to men, their hearts are on their wife continually. Almost constantly. Yet why don't women feel the same about us? I wish leaders or more instruction or something could address this more. And I'm trying to actually live the gospel and still have experienced this. Its got to be much worse for people that don't even accept the gospel or not living it. Because there's more enmity and darkness in the world when you don't have the light of the gospel. /// I hope that somehow men and women will one day have more love to one another. In this life it feels like its so hard to reach one another on a spiritual and emotional connection level. So we need SOMETHING in order to bring us together. Its already hard. Like when I see family members, most of their interactions with men, are usually only when they need or want something. They don't really want to even hang out or talk to their men except to demand something or need money, etc. So we need something to bring us together... although I am not suggesting a focus on lust. /// And I hope you or others can reply to me on this as Its something I've been earnestly hoping for more inspiration regarding.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 6 ай бұрын
Perhaps what you are describing is a reflection on the consequences of attempting to stay true to the principles of the Gospel while at the same time melding current societal values and practices into your belief system. It is a paradox that simply can't be worked out.
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 6 ай бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher Yes. Thanks for your reply. Perhaps it will be more ideal in a Celestial system like the United Order? And I'm curious if eventually in such a system will they end up actually working side by side during the hours of the day.
@mikeboyd3225
@mikeboyd3225 7 ай бұрын
You people are so ignorant about the LDS Religion. You might want to leave this to the grownups.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 7 ай бұрын
As there are several comments here from various sources on this thread, would you please clarify what is ignorant and how you, yourself are not ignorant?
@stevenbolin7688
@stevenbolin7688 7 ай бұрын
Returning missionary? Im still in the books but not active anymore.
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 7 ай бұрын
Each person has a unique story and path.
@stevenbolin7688
@stevenbolin7688 7 ай бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher I'm a shut in because of physical problems, but I study around 3/4 of the day. History and Religion both, it's my passion and appointment
@thelatterdayteacher
@thelatterdayteacher 7 ай бұрын
@@stevenbolin7688 I like your answer. Do you feel it is essential for defamatory sources that some attempt to mix with church history to be verified beyond the weak standards of today?
@stevenbolin7688
@stevenbolin7688 7 ай бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher Hmmm 🤔 really interesting,I'm not sure, I was a pastor before I joined. Not qualified for your question. Yeah there's a lot of problems with the old and new ways. Dissent is there. But I'm a lazy learner, 😆
@noahriding5780
@noahriding5780 6 ай бұрын
@@thelatterdayteacher I'm curious why asked about defamatory sources? I don't see that he did or asked something defamatory unless it came from a different video where you started talk to him? If you are asking about this, I would tie in and reinforce what your purpose and intent is if you state something negative. This is the pattern in D&C 50; the verses on edification how 2 people build one another up. Show an increase of love afterwards when you have to rebuke your child. Its the same with gospel investigators. Sometimes you have to bring up something negative, so afterwards you want to show increase of faith and assurance. Let me further clarify. You don't want to bring up something defamatory. I wouldn't use those. But sometimes there's things that are negative because of behavior in the church that have to be brought up in order to be corrected and then sometimes people mistakenly think its defamation, but your intent may have been to correct a wrong point. But they didn't understand it. And this is why you reassure like a parent. Example 1; Jacob rebukes the members of his day for lusting after having concubines. He's teaching them something they are doing is wrong. Now in the modern day example, someone might not realize we're allowed to encourage and exhort someone or other members. Its an Aaronic priesthood responsibility even. So we might see something we're doing wrong and bring attention to it. But others don't know us, we're not in their ward. So they might think we're bashing when we're actually wanting a wrong to be corrected, or for correction teaching of a matter to be brought forth so the gray area isn't exploited further. Some might misunderstand that as defamation based on their own weaknesses. But if you come back and reassure of intent and purpose and that your purpose is to build up not destroy it helps to not have misunderstands that might be misconstrued as defamatory when they aren't.