That's a very thick coating of glue! I generally use a paint brush to put the glue on in a thin coat. Then, after it dries, I give it another thin coat. After the second coat dries, a close look will show shiny specks of glue here and there, but the weave of the canvas remains visible, and the texture of the canvas remains after a one thin coat of primer is scraped on.
@thierrymoutard-martin12Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your own technique ! Indeed the process in this video is not the only one which works well. Sometimes with very loose canvas (thin threads and big speces between them) one can also soread the glue once gelified The jelly is "broken" by thorough stirring and then spread onto the canvas. If it is well done, it can size efficiently the canvas.
@ATINKERERАй бұрын
That was a great demonstration! Thank you .
@T12E52 ай бұрын
Perfect! Using yolk has never been explained for use like this, and solved the issue for how long my paints were coming out after mulling!
@jhb612493 ай бұрын
Nice. Thank you.
@Lanternamagika4 ай бұрын
Résultat impressionante ... Faire cette drapement d'emblée en noir/blanc c'est conceivable comme entreprise, et le résultat pourrait bien etre passable, mai la couvrir en glacis comme ça obtient un effet tout-a-fait dramatique ... essayez de le faire directement sur toile, from scratch, avec seulement de rouges! Bon courage alors ...
@Lanternamagika4 ай бұрын
Amazing indeed! Thank you for showing us so neatly
@ozymandiascakehole35867 ай бұрын
So is this de mayernes method? How does this paint keep? Does it still seperate with the yellow sweating and stuff?
@haykocakanyan82268 ай бұрын
Hello please tell me where I can get the product I need it like human needs air but in my country which is Armenia I can not offord it please tell me the way or the substance from where I can get this Red Cinnebar powder
@monte499 ай бұрын
i have tried this - the effects are amazing and very useful for certain effects. As you said, it requires very little to make this happen!
@thierrymoutard-martin129 ай бұрын
Egg yolk was added in pre-industrial paints. These were made by handgrinding just before use, not intended to be stored. Egg yolk will rotten in a few weeks and the paint will lost its properties. If you want to store your paints in aluminium tubes, I suggest you can add some beeswax as a rheology modifier. It acts almost like egg yolk. A bit less efficient, but still makes short paste.
@lucianocortopassi30985 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!!
@lucianocortopassi30989 ай бұрын
Thank you for the tip. can I make my own paint by adding drops of egg yolk and store in aluminum tubes? Is there any problem in doing this? Thank you very much
@thierrymoutard-martin125 ай бұрын
Egg yolk is a natural animal product. It doesn't stand a long storage in tubes. It is more efficient as a post-addition ingredient. Grind and store your oil paint in tube, then when you take it from the tube add your egg yolk just before using the paint.
@mahamatabbamahamatmahamata93072 жыл бұрын
هل الحكمة في تزوج الكبريت والزيبق بمادة مثل ثلج الابيض
@thierrymoutard-martin122 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't understand : with sulfur and mercury, you cannot obtain any white product. Only black, brownish or red.
@loloqween21302 жыл бұрын
لدي سينابار او زنجر كيف استفد منه
@thierrymoutard-martin122 жыл бұрын
@@loloqween2130 I don't understand what is زنجر Can you translate it in french, english or spanish? To use your cinnabar, you have to crush it in little pieces. Sort the best ones which color is beautiful red. Then mix with water and crush again in a mortar until it becomes a rough red mud. Finally mull this mud with a muller on a stone or glass slab. When your pigments is ok, you can see its color being brighter on the slab. The texture becomes finer. The sound changes, from hard crushing sound to soft like a breathe.
@loloqween21302 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 Hello, I have large quantities of cinnabar, how can I benefit from it?
@thierrymoutard-martin122 жыл бұрын
@@loloqween2130 is it pure deep red or mixed with Brown/black/grey stone ?
@netsaosa49732 жыл бұрын
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@DizzyCsango2 жыл бұрын
-If I remember correctly, Sennelier's lead white has zinc oxide added to it, which will reduce the stringiness-
@thierrymoutard-martin122 жыл бұрын
Thank you for information i didn't know that. I thought zinc white addition was only for their lead white paint tubes but not for the qo called pure pigment.
@DizzyCsango2 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 I'm sorry, you are correct; for some reason I completely forgot that you were talking about hand mulled paint and not tube paint
@thierrymoutard-martin122 жыл бұрын
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@ashikaahso72762 жыл бұрын
during and after I make the lead white paint with a muller, how long I should ventilate approximately to ensure safety? 1hr should be enough?
@thierrymoutard-martin122 жыл бұрын
Once mixed with oil, the pigment is bound in paste. You don't risk breathing it. There are not toxic fumes. So you needn't more ventilation than for any other pigment. When dealing with dry powder, before making the base paste with oil, things are different. the pigment can fly like dust. Then it is dangerous. Avoid any air flow which can make fly the fine colour.i Wear good protection. Always wear gloves when working with PW1.
@annsalty56153 жыл бұрын
Am currently experimenting with different size formulas, that being rsg, pva size, and acrylic. So far my thinking is leaning towards applying PVA size to temporary stretcher, not worrying too much about taught ness, let dry, then re stretch tight before proceeding with grounds. The acrylic versions of sizing, i.e. like gac 100 used with gac 400 first, I am not thrilled with as they leave a thick plastic film, and who knows if over time it will separate with the oil ground. Rsg, I would love to use, but too many archival issues I think. I think pva size is the closest thing to rsg currently. Time will tell and I probably will have left this earth by the time the jury is out on whether it makes a good size.
@annsalty56152 жыл бұрын
@@verydrunkcat I had similar results. Decided RSG is only way to go. The GAC was second best but created more a stiff rather than tight surface with weird texture. The PVA was awful. On the RSG, I had to experiment a little. Very flimsy linen, i.e. cheap, had issues with loosening up and uneven as the RSG super tightens it, probably unraveling going on. Had to discard a roll. Better linen worked perfectly. Then proceeded to make a ton of very large canvases and they all came out great so far with either alkyd oil grounds, titanium, and lead. If there is a way to use PVA, its not thru the stuff by Gamblin. I asked the manufacturer what they use on their pre primed linen, and they claimed was PVA. Probably different formula.
@andrewkostelnyk2723 жыл бұрын
I find the best way is a ratio of 13-1 -so one measure of size to 13 measures of water -let it soak half an hour then heat in a double boiler until liquid-then ready for use -have used this method for years and works for me
@Jellyf0x3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@JamesBond-nk3yk3 жыл бұрын
Vous appelez ça un glacis moi j’appelle ça une appartement
@khaledfazl68503 жыл бұрын
For the long term ,using rabbit skin glue is not good primer .
@thierrymoutard-martin123 жыл бұрын
What primer do you prefer ?
@khaledfazl68503 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 you can use gesso or oil base gamvar ground gesso ,if you do oil painting .
@thierrymoutard-martin123 жыл бұрын
@@khaledfazl6850 do you know what components this gamvar gesso is made of ? Traditional gessos also contain rabbit skin glue (with a calcium filler like chalk or gypsum). I find these real gessos too brittle to be applied on canvas. Ok for panel priming only. Ils the gamvar gesso made from acrylic resin as binder ?
@khaledfazl68503 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 if you have any questions regarding painting particularly ,about oil painting check " Walcott Fine Art" on youtube .
@thierrymoutard-martin123 жыл бұрын
@Arturo López Indeed, restorers tell us that a canvas glued onto a panel is a very long life material. When preparing such panels, which glue do you prefer ? Natural hide glue, or resin like PVAC, acrylic etc. ?
@zachrowe72413 жыл бұрын
What type of linseed oil did you use ? I tried cold pressed but it didn’t have as much stringyness as yours !
@thierrymoutard-martin123 жыл бұрын
It is linseed oil from an old stock. I bought it in 2000 in a parisian shop which doesnt exist anymore : Cléton, rue Saint Sabin. Since then it has been stored in transparent bottles. A big plastic one at the beginning. Then smaller ones. Always without air, like almost oils I use.
@zachrowe72413 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 was it quite thick and sticky? Or was it thin and runny ?? I was thinking if I sun thicken the walnut oil it could make it a bit more ropey and stringy
@thierrymoutard-martin123 жыл бұрын
@@zachrowe7241 this linseed oil is more viscous than usual refined CP linseed oil for painters, but it os not thick like stand oil or oleum crassum.. Even when they seem to have the same apparent viscosity, linseed gives slightly longer pastes than walnut oil. I don't know why.
@erxfav3197 Жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 how long did you grind for? And just regular muller and slab?
@JH-ct9fj4 жыл бұрын
Please, I have (stupid?) question, was baltic Amber used for anything by the old masters? Can it be a pigment? glue? Can sugar be used as gum, like gum arabic? Will it last? Thank you
@thierrymoutard-martin124 жыл бұрын
Only a little part of Baltic amber can be dissolved. The final product is not a good varnish. Very fragile and brittle. Old treatises'amber is actually copal resin, which is better.
@JH-ct9fj4 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 Thank you for the answer.
@JH-ct9fj4 жыл бұрын
I only saw this process in an old book as an etching in an old master ' atelier. I can only imagine the power of the paint made like this just linseed and genuine natural pigments.
@sergioaramos23694 жыл бұрын
What is the advantage, to improved impastos or something else?
@thierrymoutard-martin124 жыл бұрын
It gives you an adjustable rheology without adding any oil-resin medium. This paste can be really thixotropic unlike modern oil paints which are pseudoplastic pastes with a clear yield stress but have not the real time dependant thixotropic rheological behavior. It makes really easier the wet in wet working for draperies and carnations.
@knacki7834 жыл бұрын
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@nickfanzo5 жыл бұрын
Pure lead white is the most beautiful oil color.
@harryeichelberger47995 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember a professor in college saying that she would sometimes put rabbit skin glue on the back side of a painting that was finished but not tight enough on the stretcher, has anyone tried this?
@rochellelisa79595 жыл бұрын
Was it meant to be silent? I couldn't hear any sound
@thierrymoutard-martin125 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is no sound. I am a specialist only in the field of painting. Sorry for the poor quality of my videos!
@JH-ct9fj4 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 amazing video very useful. Plz make more. Thx
@thierrymoutard-martin122 жыл бұрын
@@JH-ct9fj what technique would you like to be explained in another vid ?
@TheDemethar5 жыл бұрын
is it possible to imitate same procedure with PVA glue? But i guess it wont be the same since pva is really thin and gets absorbed by linen quite easyly.
@thierrymoutard-martin125 жыл бұрын
With PVAC or acryl products, the canvas behaves differently. The main issue is not glue passing through the fabric. It can happen here or there, but if you spread the glue with a Saber like on my video, and if your canvas is not too loose (In every case it is better to buy threads than holes when you buy a canvas!) the surface will be covered buy a good layer. It will be very tight when still damp. But after drying, you will discover your canvas to become loose and wavy. The jellying / drying process of the rabbit skin glue let the canvas as tightened after drying as it was when wet. With the PVAC glue, it is not the case : if you want your canvas to be as tightened as with RSG, after drying you must remove it from your temporary working stretcher and nail it again on your final strecher.
@thierrymoutard-martin125 жыл бұрын
Do you know why he did that?
@thierrymoutard-martin124 жыл бұрын
@@UncleJunior52 did you finally tried the top coat with Gamblin primer? Can you tell us your opinion on the result?
@bettydickins39106 жыл бұрын
Je me suis intéressée au tuto sur le glacis mais effectivement , il est compliqué de lire vos explications, il aurait été plus intéressant d'y apporter des paroles, car quand on lit, on ne se concentre plus sur l'image de la même manière, c'est dommage. Merci quand même d'apporter votre savoir. La musique est belle mais un peu tristounette.
@thierrymoutard-martin124 жыл бұрын
Je vous remercie de m'avoir prévenu. D'autres internautes m'ont signalé cette difficulté. J'en tiendrai compte pour la prochaine vidéo.
@mikegurney92786 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info interesting,.
@marie-annick58477 жыл бұрын
on arrive pas à lire avec l'écriture violette ! dommage
@thierrymoutard-martin124 жыл бұрын
Je vous remercie de m'avoir prévenu. Auriez-vous préféré un texte plus visible, quitte à ce qu'on soit distrait de l'image ? Ou bien un commentaire en voix off ?
@waltwalt32827 жыл бұрын
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@Person-ov5hv7 жыл бұрын
both of these are hand mulled by you from pigment?
@thierrymoutard-martin127 жыл бұрын
Yes, I mull these from pure dry pigments. First I make a pigment + oil paste with a a pestle and mortar, then I finely grind the paint with a glass muller on a glass slab.
@erxfav31976 жыл бұрын
thierry moutard-martin do you not put it through a sieve? When I’ve made mine it comes out with some particles that don’t break down further.. So it leaves tiny bumps when the paint is spread thin Do you have any tips or suggestions?
@thierrymoutard-martin125 жыл бұрын
@@erxfav3197 if you make your own pigment from lead, I suggest more refining in a ball mill or on the slab with the same muller than for the final grinding in Oil. If you buy a lead white from a reputable manufacturer like Natural Pigments or Kremer, these lumps may originate in an uncompleted grinding. It happens if you want to mull too much paste at a time : on the sides of your muller there is some excess paste which is not worked under the tool. In this part of your paste, big lumps can remain unbroken, hence the defect you have noticed.
@waltwalt32827 жыл бұрын
what kind of palette knife?
@thierrymoutard-martin127 жыл бұрын
It is a simple modern palette knife like ones you can buy in every art store. I only use this knife to show paint consistency in the video. To create this paint from oil and pigment, you need a mortar, pestle and a grinding muller on a heavy slab.
@waltwalt32827 жыл бұрын
very beautiful paint, do you make any other colors?
@thierrymoutard-martin127 жыл бұрын
walt walt Yes I grind other pigments. I published a handbook about ultramarine grinding: www.lulu.com/shop/thierry-moutard-martin/outremer-broyage-et-formulation/paperback/product-22002226.html You can also find some copies on amazon: www.amazon.com/Outremer-broyage-formulation-Thierry-Moutard-Martin/dp/1471654877 As soon as I have a little time, I will translate it in English!