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@ATINKERER
@ATINKERER Ай бұрын
That's a very thick coating of glue! I generally use a paint brush to put the glue on in a thin coat. Then, after it dries, I give it another thin coat. After the second coat dries, a close look will show shiny specks of glue here and there, but the weave of the canvas remains visible, and the texture of the canvas remains after a one thin coat of primer is scraped on.
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing your own technique ! Indeed the process in this video is not the only one which works well. Sometimes with very loose canvas (thin threads and big speces between them) one can also soread the glue once gelified The jelly is "broken" by thorough stirring and then spread onto the canvas. If it is well done, it can size efficiently the canvas.
@ATINKERER
@ATINKERER Ай бұрын
That was a great demonstration! Thank you .
@T12E5
@T12E5 2 ай бұрын
Perfect! Using yolk has never been explained for use like this, and solved the issue for how long my paints were coming out after mulling!
@jhb61249
@jhb61249 3 ай бұрын
Nice. Thank you.
@Lanternamagika
@Lanternamagika 4 ай бұрын
Résultat impressionante ... Faire cette drapement d'emblée en noir/blanc c'est conceivable comme entreprise, et le résultat pourrait bien etre passable, mai la couvrir en glacis comme ça obtient un effet tout-a-fait dramatique ... essayez de le faire directement sur toile, from scratch, avec seulement de rouges! Bon courage alors ...
@Lanternamagika
@Lanternamagika 4 ай бұрын
Amazing indeed! Thank you for showing us so neatly
@ozymandiascakehole3586
@ozymandiascakehole3586 7 ай бұрын
So is this de mayernes method? How does this paint keep? Does it still seperate with the yellow sweating and stuff?
@haykocakanyan8226
@haykocakanyan8226 8 ай бұрын
Hello please tell me where I can get the product I need it like human needs air but in my country which is Armenia I can not offord it please tell me the way or the substance from where I can get this Red Cinnebar powder
@monte49
@monte49 9 ай бұрын
i have tried this - the effects are amazing and very useful for certain effects. As you said, it requires very little to make this happen!
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 9 ай бұрын
Egg yolk was added in pre-industrial paints. These were made by handgrinding just before use, not intended to be stored. Egg yolk will rotten in a few weeks and the paint will lost its properties. If you want to store your paints in aluminium tubes, I suggest you can add some beeswax as a rheology modifier. It acts almost like egg yolk. A bit less efficient, but still makes short paste.
@lucianocortopassi3098
@lucianocortopassi3098 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!!
@lucianocortopassi3098
@lucianocortopassi3098 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the tip. can I make my own paint by adding drops of egg yolk and store in aluminum tubes? Is there any problem in doing this? Thank you very much
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 5 ай бұрын
Egg yolk is a natural animal product. It doesn't stand a long storage in tubes. It is more efficient as a post-addition ingredient. Grind and store your oil paint in tube, then when you take it from the tube add your egg yolk just before using the paint.
@mahamatabbamahamatmahamata9307
@mahamatabbamahamatmahamata9307 2 жыл бұрын
هل الحكمة في تزوج الكبريت والزيبق بمادة مثل ثلج الابيض
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't understand : with sulfur and mercury, you cannot obtain any white product. Only black, brownish or red.
@loloqween2130
@loloqween2130 2 жыл бұрын
لدي سينابار او زنجر كيف استفد منه
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
@@loloqween2130 I don't understand what is زنجر Can you translate it in french, english or spanish? To use your cinnabar, you have to crush it in little pieces. Sort the best ones which color is beautiful red. Then mix with water and crush again in a mortar until it becomes a rough red mud. Finally mull this mud with a muller on a stone or glass slab. When your pigments is ok, you can see its color being brighter on the slab. The texture becomes finer. The sound changes, from hard crushing sound to soft like a breathe.
@loloqween2130
@loloqween2130 2 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 Hello, I have large quantities of cinnabar, how can I benefit from it?
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
@@loloqween2130 is it pure deep red or mixed with Brown/black/grey stone ?
@netsaosa4973
@netsaosa4973 2 жыл бұрын
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@DizzyCsango
@DizzyCsango 2 жыл бұрын
-If I remember correctly, Sennelier's lead white has zinc oxide added to it, which will reduce the stringiness-
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for information i didn't know that. I thought zinc white addition was only for their lead white paint tubes but not for the qo called pure pigment.
@DizzyCsango
@DizzyCsango 2 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 I'm sorry, you are correct; for some reason I completely forgot that you were talking about hand mulled paint and not tube paint
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
Pour en savoir plus : sites.google.com/site/moutardmartin/Home/cours-et-formations/broyage-des-couleurs
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
Pour en savoir plus : sites.google.com/site/moutardmartin/Home/cours-et-formations/broyage-des-couleurs
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
Pour en savoir plus : sites.google.com/site/moutardmartin/Home/cours-et-formations/broyage-des-couleurs
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
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@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
Pour en savoir plus : sites.google.com/site/moutardmartin/Home/cours-et-formations/broyage-des-couleurs
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
Pour en savoir plus : sites.google.com/site/moutardmartin/Home/cours-et-formations/broyage-des-couleurs
@ashikaahso7276
@ashikaahso7276 2 жыл бұрын
during and after I make the lead white paint with a muller, how long I should ventilate approximately to ensure safety? 1hr should be enough?
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
Once mixed with oil, the pigment is bound in paste. You don't risk breathing it. There are not toxic fumes. So you needn't more ventilation than for any other pigment. When dealing with dry powder, before making the base paste with oil, things are different. the pigment can fly like dust. Then it is dangerous. Avoid any air flow which can make fly the fine colour.i Wear good protection. Always wear gloves when working with PW1.
@annsalty5615
@annsalty5615 3 жыл бұрын
Am currently experimenting with different size formulas, that being rsg, pva size, and acrylic. So far my thinking is leaning towards applying PVA size to temporary stretcher, not worrying too much about taught ness, let dry, then re stretch tight before proceeding with grounds. The acrylic versions of sizing, i.e. like gac 100 used with gac 400 first, I am not thrilled with as they leave a thick plastic film, and who knows if over time it will separate with the oil ground. Rsg, I would love to use, but too many archival issues I think. I think pva size is the closest thing to rsg currently. Time will tell and I probably will have left this earth by the time the jury is out on whether it makes a good size.
@annsalty5615
@annsalty5615 2 жыл бұрын
@@verydrunkcat I had similar results. Decided RSG is only way to go. The GAC was second best but created more a stiff rather than tight surface with weird texture. The PVA was awful. On the RSG, I had to experiment a little. Very flimsy linen, i.e. cheap, had issues with loosening up and uneven as the RSG super tightens it, probably unraveling going on. Had to discard a roll. Better linen worked perfectly. Then proceeded to make a ton of very large canvases and they all came out great so far with either alkyd oil grounds, titanium, and lead. If there is a way to use PVA, its not thru the stuff by Gamblin. I asked the manufacturer what they use on their pre primed linen, and they claimed was PVA. Probably different formula.
@andrewkostelnyk272
@andrewkostelnyk272 3 жыл бұрын
I find the best way is a ratio of 13-1 -so one measure of size to 13 measures of water -let it soak half an hour then heat in a double boiler until liquid-then ready for use -have used this method for years and works for me
@Jellyf0x
@Jellyf0x 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@JamesBond-nk3yk
@JamesBond-nk3yk 3 жыл бұрын
Vous appelez ça un glacis moi j’appelle ça une appartement
@khaledfazl6850
@khaledfazl6850 3 жыл бұрын
For the long term ,using rabbit skin glue is not good primer .
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 3 жыл бұрын
What primer do you prefer ?
@khaledfazl6850
@khaledfazl6850 3 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 you can use gesso or oil base gamvar ground gesso ,if you do oil painting .
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 3 жыл бұрын
@@khaledfazl6850 do you know what components this gamvar gesso is made of ? Traditional gessos also contain rabbit skin glue (with a calcium filler like chalk or gypsum). I find these real gessos too brittle to be applied on canvas. Ok for panel priming only. Ils the gamvar gesso made from acrylic resin as binder ?
@khaledfazl6850
@khaledfazl6850 3 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 if you have any questions regarding painting particularly ,about oil painting check " Walcott Fine Art" on youtube .
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 3 жыл бұрын
@Arturo López Indeed, restorers tell us that a canvas glued onto a panel is a very long life material. When preparing such panels, which glue do you prefer ? Natural hide glue, or resin like PVAC, acrylic etc. ?
@zachrowe7241
@zachrowe7241 3 жыл бұрын
What type of linseed oil did you use ? I tried cold pressed but it didn’t have as much stringyness as yours !
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 3 жыл бұрын
It is linseed oil from an old stock. I bought it in 2000 in a parisian shop which doesnt exist anymore : Cléton, rue Saint Sabin. Since then it has been stored in transparent bottles. A big plastic one at the beginning. Then smaller ones. Always without air, like almost oils I use.
@zachrowe7241
@zachrowe7241 3 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 was it quite thick and sticky? Or was it thin and runny ?? I was thinking if I sun thicken the walnut oil it could make it a bit more ropey and stringy
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 3 жыл бұрын
@@zachrowe7241 this linseed oil is more viscous than usual refined CP linseed oil for painters, but it os not thick like stand oil or oleum crassum.. Even when they seem to have the same apparent viscosity, linseed gives slightly longer pastes than walnut oil. I don't know why.
@erxfav3197
@erxfav3197 Жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 how long did you grind for? And just regular muller and slab?
@JH-ct9fj
@JH-ct9fj 4 жыл бұрын
Please, I have (stupid?) question, was baltic Amber used for anything by the old masters? Can it be a pigment? glue? Can sugar be used as gum, like gum arabic? Will it last? Thank you
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 4 жыл бұрын
Only a little part of Baltic amber can be dissolved. The final product is not a good varnish. Very fragile and brittle. Old treatises'amber is actually copal resin, which is better.
@JH-ct9fj
@JH-ct9fj 4 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 Thank you for the answer.
@JH-ct9fj
@JH-ct9fj 4 жыл бұрын
I only saw this process in an old book as an etching in an old master ' atelier. I can only imagine the power of the paint made like this just linseed and genuine natural pigments.
@sergioaramos2369
@sergioaramos2369 4 жыл бұрын
What is the advantage, to improved impastos or something else?
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 4 жыл бұрын
It gives you an adjustable rheology without adding any oil-resin medium. This paste can be really thixotropic unlike modern oil paints which are pseudoplastic pastes with a clear yield stress but have not the real time dependant thixotropic rheological behavior. It makes really easier the wet in wet working for draperies and carnations.
@knacki783
@knacki783 4 жыл бұрын
Wesh m moutard martin
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 5 жыл бұрын
Pure lead white is the most beautiful oil color.
@harryeichelberger4799
@harryeichelberger4799 5 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember a professor in college saying that she would sometimes put rabbit skin glue on the back side of a painting that was finished but not tight enough on the stretcher, has anyone tried this?
@rochellelisa7959
@rochellelisa7959 5 жыл бұрын
Was it meant to be silent? I couldn't hear any sound
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is no sound. I am a specialist only in the field of painting. Sorry for the poor quality of my videos!
@JH-ct9fj
@JH-ct9fj 4 жыл бұрын
@@thierrymoutard-martin12 amazing video very useful. Plz make more. Thx
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 2 жыл бұрын
@@JH-ct9fj what technique would you like to be explained in another vid ?
@TheDemethar
@TheDemethar 5 жыл бұрын
is it possible to imitate same procedure with PVA glue? But i guess it wont be the same since pva is really thin and gets absorbed by linen quite easyly.
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 5 жыл бұрын
With PVAC or acryl products, the canvas behaves differently. The main issue is not glue passing through the fabric. It can happen here or there, but if you spread the glue with a Saber like on my video, and if your canvas is not too loose (In every case it is better to buy threads than holes when you buy a canvas!) the surface will be covered buy a good layer. It will be very tight when still damp. But after drying, you will discover your canvas to become loose and wavy. The jellying / drying process of the rabbit skin glue let the canvas as tightened after drying as it was when wet. With the PVAC glue, it is not the case : if you want your canvas to be as tightened as with RSG, after drying you must remove it from your temporary working stretcher and nail it again on your final strecher.
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know why he did that?
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 4 жыл бұрын
@@UncleJunior52 did you finally tried the top coat with Gamblin primer? Can you tell us your opinion on the result?
@bettydickins3910
@bettydickins3910 6 жыл бұрын
Je me suis intéressée au tuto sur le glacis mais effectivement , il est compliqué de lire vos explications, il aurait été plus intéressant d'y apporter des paroles, car quand on lit, on ne se concentre plus sur l'image de la même manière, c'est dommage. Merci quand même d'apporter votre savoir. La musique est belle mais un peu tristounette.
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 4 жыл бұрын
Je vous remercie de m'avoir prévenu. D'autres internautes m'ont signalé cette difficulté. J'en tiendrai compte pour la prochaine vidéo.
@mikegurney9278
@mikegurney9278 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info interesting,.
@marie-annick5847
@marie-annick5847 7 жыл бұрын
on arrive pas à lire avec l'écriture violette ! dommage
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 4 жыл бұрын
Je vous remercie de m'avoir prévenu. Auriez-vous préféré un texte plus visible, quitte à ce qu'on soit distrait de l'image ? Ou bien un commentaire en voix off ?
@waltwalt3282
@waltwalt3282 7 жыл бұрын
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@Person-ov5hv
@Person-ov5hv 7 жыл бұрын
both of these are hand mulled by you from pigment?
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I mull these from pure dry pigments. First I make a pigment + oil paste with a a pestle and mortar, then I finely grind the paint with a glass muller on a glass slab.
@erxfav3197
@erxfav3197 6 жыл бұрын
thierry moutard-martin do you not put it through a sieve? When I’ve made mine it comes out with some particles that don’t break down further.. So it leaves tiny bumps when the paint is spread thin Do you have any tips or suggestions?
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 5 жыл бұрын
@@erxfav3197 if you make your own pigment from lead, I suggest more refining in a ball mill or on the slab with the same muller than for the final grinding in Oil. If you buy a lead white from a reputable manufacturer like Natural Pigments or Kremer, these lumps may originate in an uncompleted grinding. It happens if you want to mull too much paste at a time : on the sides of your muller there is some excess paste which is not worked under the tool. In this part of your paste, big lumps can remain unbroken, hence the defect you have noticed.
@waltwalt3282
@waltwalt3282 7 жыл бұрын
what kind of palette knife?
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 7 жыл бұрын
It is a simple modern palette knife like ones you can buy in every art store. I only use this knife to show paint consistency in the video. To create this paint from oil and pigment, you need a mortar, pestle and a grinding muller on a heavy slab.
@waltwalt3282
@waltwalt3282 7 жыл бұрын
very beautiful paint, do you make any other colors?
@thierrymoutard-martin12
@thierrymoutard-martin12 7 жыл бұрын
walt walt Yes I grind other pigments. I published a handbook about ultramarine grinding: www.lulu.com/shop/thierry-moutard-martin/outremer-broyage-et-formulation/paperback/product-22002226.html You can also find some copies on amazon: www.amazon.com/Outremer-broyage-formulation-Thierry-Moutard-Martin/dp/1471654877 As soon as I have a little time, I will translate it in English!