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@Jon45678 13 сағат бұрын
Another great video. Looking forward to checking out Sara’s content. Christianity held me back from thriving for decades, and basically destroyed how I view myself. I made so many decisions I regret thanks to following a fairy tale based on death and bloodshed from the first to last pages of its holy book.
@777hathor 14 сағат бұрын
Because you used words to believe in Christianity you can use words to deconvert. I do not want to go to heaven because it is a cube and I do not want to sing praises day and night. Also why do people strive so hard when only 144,000 are chosen, and they were also pre chosen out of all the humans living in the last 6,000yrs.
@ly6203 15 сағат бұрын
I think this Boy in Matthew was brought into the Story to get him criminalized. Altogether tried this man Jesus to cleanse the people, or maybe better said the elites, from their perverted Habits.
@AlTorresFineArt 19 сағат бұрын
Thank you for this great interview!
@arlinegeorge6967 21 сағат бұрын
Very nice and informative, thought provoking conversation. Like you said there is no second and third coming of Jesus Christ as propaganda. We humans have all the knowledge and are aware of living a humane life. In India I have experienced the radical and fanatical catholic religious preacher’s and believer out helping Jesus Christ to prove his worth and power. And individuals who will not obey they will destroy and further more war within families for destruction of generations to come. India is a beautiful country and very soon the human with materialistic powers no values and mystical power will jointly prove our god is mighty powerful but needed manipulation of humans help to prove his worth displaying the power and influence
@2367J 21 сағат бұрын
Audio fixed 3:20
@lawrancebean4223 Күн бұрын
Tim Your voice is echoing. It's very hard to listen to the interview.
@clawedsimian 23 сағат бұрын
They fix it around 3 minutes into the video
@jacksonstone246 Күн бұрын
I love James Valliant and the writings of Ayn Rand
@rufussthubbins8891 Күн бұрын
I’m curious as to why to Judaic scholars who fully reject Jesus as messiah don’t use these discrediting talking points if they are indeed factual
@DavidandCharla Күн бұрын
1:16:00 I've been horrified and traumatized by those images also and it never made any logical sense to me. Great interview!
@R.L.Thomas Күн бұрын
How do they know it was 4 AM in the morning? Clocks weren't invented yet
@vinnyo897 Күн бұрын
So after listening to this whole thing….and you believe anything he says…how can someone still be an atheist.? There’s obviously a spiritual world out there.
@AprilFriday-de6vm Күн бұрын
“Can’t you stay Mormon just in case it’s true? Not risk going to Outer Darkness?” No, no I cannot, because every one of these doomsday cults are equally plausible- which is to say, not plausible at all. American exceptionalism is 100% a thing for Mormons too. America was divinely designed to produce Mormonism - that’s basically the whole reason. So the founding fathers were essentially pre-Mormons on a divine mission and you can’t say anything bad about them. And the White Supremacy history there is pretty well-documented. The tall, blonde, blue-eyed Jesus 🤣. At least my parents never sold Amway, despite significant peer pressure.
@frandavis1990 Күн бұрын
I stopped being a Christian because I got tired of waiting on God/Jesus while innocence was being harmed everyday. Shit got old praying to the Lord to help the kids and other victims. I used to literally cry for the pain of people in this world and God never responded. Then i started cursing god just to get a response....nothing still. My life got a lot better when I gave it all up which is crazy lol most Christians don't even believe me. Tired of the excuses for such evil people experience
@biddy2134 Күн бұрын
I was tuned into corrected translations of the oldest writings in the world by Mauro Biglino, and his interpretation of the 'Bible'. If you are watching his videos and reading his books do you see a correlation as I do.
@markzenlim6524 Күн бұрын
Thank you for your program. Many thanks. For a religion that’s supposed to liberate, for 31 years I felt ashamed, guilty, sinful, should be suffering and the devil is always around the corner or under some stone. Thanks once again.
@subcitizen2012 Күн бұрын
Another great talk. One thing that kind of stands out, something I really appreciate about all this is that mostly these are folks that are relatively new to their path. A lot of it makes me want to participate in an interview. Folks need to hear some of what you find out after 15-20 years. Not that it can all be taught or told, but negative nihilism, for example, is possible to completely discard. It is itself a byproduct inherent in, at least Christianity, or perhaps the abrahamic religions in general. "This life means nothing... without Jesus." So when you come out the other end with a human or non existent Jesus, you find that the early church fathers and early thinking's weren't thinking about that stuff very much, or perhaps thinking about it a little too much. Which is completely respectable for their time and situation in history - everything must have seemed for nothing when death and brutality was all around them, more or less. But they were a product of all that as well. Anyway, as someone relatively far along on this journey, and with an overall pretty serious hobby of dealing with the history, philosophy, psychology, for about as long, I feel like I have some perspectives to offer. I'd like to get in touch with Tim, but I'm not very photogenic haha, will have to sort that out. One day Tim! I'm not far from you either, and the idea of a secular church is intriguing, it's not something I imagine myself doing, but it does sound like something I'd want to participate in to some degree. Anyway, just writing this for myself and others, I hope it helps someone.
@HarmonicAtheist Күн бұрын
Good thoughts! Feel free to add me on FB and reach out when the time is right for an interview! facebook.com/harmonictim
@fathertime2020 Күн бұрын
When I was a very young child, 3 and 4, my fanatical Catholic mother would tell me that if I ever went to sleep without first saying my prayers the devil would appear in my bed. I had severe stomach ulcers by the time I was 5. Thank you Jesus.
@user-mh7bz3gu9p Күн бұрын
Verse about the garden?
@deanodog3667 2 күн бұрын
If history is written by the victors and a set of lies agreed upon then where does that leave religion???
@Jon45678 2 күн бұрын
This is the best video on KZbin about deconstruction! You guys covered so many key issues that I am going through. Everyone needs to see this.
@dorothyhusen6718 2 күн бұрын
Thank you Ve for speaking out and sharing your story. Your interview with Tim impacted my life and inspired me to live my own good life. Thank you for rewriting your Mission Statement and sharing it with the world.
@harmonychilden5326 Күн бұрын
@dorothyhusen6718 thank you so much for your comment and for taking the time to listen to my story. I am so happy that you were able to get something out of it. Best of luck to you as you continue your journey. ❤️ Ve
@damjana5915 2 күн бұрын
catholic deconstruction: my deconstruction was final when I realized that confession is really me sitting in the closet talking to some old guy about my sins. :)
@harmonychilden5326 2 күн бұрын
I absolutely loved this interview!!! Thank you so much!❤
@exvangelicarol5336 2 күн бұрын
This was sure to be a great conversation! 🥰 The D-D is a great new channel. I'm so glad I found y'all both!
@annmariethompson4587 2 күн бұрын
So glad Andrew was able to work through the indoctrination and religous trauma. Religion does such damage to one's mental health. Stay strong!
@annmariethompson4587 2 күн бұрын
Loved his story. Andrew is a great storyteller.
@ludchar1 2 күн бұрын
The title ": there are more ......" doesn't fit with all the talk in the video. What are they talking about?
@pamelariley6694 2 күн бұрын
Nothing wrong with investigating your religion, since we are very invested. Keeping a open mind, we can only learn more. 👍 Just a thought..are we making a judgement, that didn't exist at that biblical time ?
@chadkndr 2 күн бұрын
I am speechless
@latenitehvac868 2 күн бұрын
What you explained is so true, they gaslight you, claim that you aren’t saved by works but then guilt and shame you into always working. And when you go and tell them that you are trying to do all this stuff and it’s causing you to get depressed they say… oh no no no that’s legalism, you just need to rest in Christ work… drove me crazy. I tried so hard to follow this for 3 years and turned into the worse person, depressed, anxious always filled with guilt and shame. I use to have no problem being completely honest with my struggles or speaking my mind but Christian fundamentalism made me so afraid to disagree, to say I was struggling with accepting certain doctrines, I felt like I had to be so fake around people. I lost myself completely m. Now 4 weeks out I’m trying to sort it all out. Trying to connect with me again, after being “delivered to Satan, and verbally bashed for leaving” honestly, Fuck Christianity
@juba9575 3 күн бұрын
Even as a christian, I hated bible verses like: 1) "All have sinned and fallen short the glory of G0d" 2) "All our ritiousness are like filthy rags" Anyone who speaks to you like this is an abuser!
@juba9575 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for this much needed video, Tim❤
@jenngraham1812 3 күн бұрын
Great deconversion story, Ve👍🏽 Even though our backgrounds may be different and diverse, S o many of us who have been raised in Christian fundamentalism can relate to your story. Here’s my deconversion story told to Tim, for those who have not yet heard and seen it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGmmgneDp5ylh7ssi=8DXrFerPDN849rZS
@harmonychilden5326 2 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thank you so much for listening. Watching yours now😊😊 ❤
@jenngraham1812 2 күн бұрын
@@harmonychilden5326 I smiled when you said you were so keen to speak in tongues back in the day! It’s easy, just raise your hands and say after me, “shouldaboughtahonda!” 😂😂
@harmonychilden5326 2 күн бұрын
I absolutely loved your interview. I resonated with so many of the points. Thank you so much for sharing the link! ❤
@John-sl3lu 2 күн бұрын
Congrats on Ur freedom
@razony 3 күн бұрын
I dropped out of seminary in 1987 and been an Ex-Christian for 38 glorious years. I have found so many incredible truth & wisdoms I would have never experienced if I had remained closed & rigid Christian. I would never had made it this far.
@edm-london1660 Күн бұрын
I was largely a non-Christian / agnostic until I was 17 when I had a mind-blowing, ecstatic-like experience of the Divine when I decided one day to walk outside from my boarding school in the snow with cigarettes and a sketch pad - and out into the into open countryside. I walked for a bit and then began to sketch a beautiful, old church tower - and after ten minutes, with a cigarette in my mouth, I was suddenly hit by an ecstatic-like experience. Pure, s-x-like joy in my heart and all over. I suddenly forgot all my worries and my rugby strains vanished. I felt completely alive, and integrated, body, mind and soul - and as if my soul (not my genitals) was having an orgasm - and that lasted ages. Nothing worried me. I felt not just an intense joy and peace of mind but also hope and lightness of being. And then I decided to return to school and I saw gold sparkling in the snow for miles arouned. The intense ecstasy-like experience subsided and then I felt this new warm, calm bliss take over. And as I walked into the school I just felt this warmth and love and humour for others. And I clicked with lots of new people I hadn't before. And that night I had ecstatic-like experience of flying at night over the English countryside. And more blissful-like experiences during the day and night that lasted for years - on and off. And the more I prayed to The Christian God, the more I knew it was The Christian God behind all this. Nothing special about me and we all experience things differently (and the same) but one has to be at least proactively open to the divine, I think - and more.
@razony Күн бұрын
@@edm-london1660 You were a Non-Christian/Agnostic and you have some euphoric experience and you associated it with Christianity? WOW, I know how Christians are and can be, and I got to tell you, that sounded so made up and fake. Either you are and were always a Christian and you made this up or something is terribly wrong with that story. Going back to Christianity would be like going back to drugs or an abusive relationship or choosing to live in a war zone. Like I said, WOW!
@TheSanctumInstitute 3 күн бұрын
Best interview with Dr Hillman. Usually he speaks in such a way for someone like me who’s never read the Bible nor raised brainwashed by any church it’s sometimes hard to follow. This was so clear and informative.
@MsI-yf4gj 3 күн бұрын
Tim, please keep this Sunday 3pmEST time for your lives, pls!
@fedesetrtatio1 3 күн бұрын
Been there done that got the T Shirt. It does not work - In the beginning it all feels good but then hopelessness, depression, greed lust all set in slow and you find yourself a horrible wreck.
@harmonychilden5326 3 күн бұрын
I'm so sorry you find yourself in that position. I've had many ups and downs...but isn't that just life sometimes? Not always smooth sailing.😢 I hope that you find happiness and purpose xx
@ThatchyThrone 3 күн бұрын
The mission statement was so good. May have to steal that idea myself to keep myself based
@harmonychilden5326 3 күн бұрын
I absolutely recommend doing it!! Thank you so much for taking the time to hear my story. And best of luck with your mission statement. ❤Ve
@ThatchyThrone 2 күн бұрын
@@harmonychilden5326 💛
@karenbehymer3634 3 күн бұрын
So very sad. Had to quit watching
@prole_ops 3 күн бұрын
So much of Andre's experience with Christianity doesn't just strike a chord with me, it strikes up the whole damn orchestra.
@LordVader407 3 күн бұрын
This dude is literally the Terrence Howard of Bible scholars. Everyone else is wrong except for him? Literally every historian disagrees with this dude. Next we're going to hear that if I gave you $50 one time that's $100.
@user-xo9ey1ic2g 3 күн бұрын
Tim this is unrelated but are you aware of the of the Christian nationalism Super Pac Ziglag which is influencing the US elections. Hobby Lobby involved Koch brother ect.!
@Siygrah 3 күн бұрын
Ah, yes. That moment when you realise that you don't have to judge anymore. That people who believe differently to you aren't stupid for believing what they believe.
@harmonychilden5326 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely the best part about it!!!😊😊
@jassharma962 3 күн бұрын
Great video! I respect freedom of religion generally but not religions which say others will burn
@phoenixrising7538 4 күн бұрын
Finally,the vale is lifted by authorities on the history of christianity.Fantastic and mind blowing discussion.Much appreciated .
@ffluvssg1 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great conversation! I grew up around the same time as Laurentia. Just one shared experience was my mother getting involved with all the Christian weight loss groups! 😀
@FoursWithin 4 күн бұрын
1:21:25 Childhood indoctrination and following,cherising, and respecting the close daily examples of our beloved elders (parents, grandparents, aunts , uncles, Sunday school teachers) is a very large factor in the equation of why humans have been so obsessed with religious and spiritual ideas/beliefs. The specific environment experienced by any brain rapidly absorbing information on how to properly behave and how to properly think is a huge factor in creating the mind of any child .
@harmonychilden5326 3 күн бұрын
So true!
@FoursWithin 4 күн бұрын
Wow, Ve Marie has a powerful voice and persona. I could easily see her as a corporate CEO or a cult leader. 😮 Might be that type A personality inherited from a powerful mother. But life had other (better) things in store for her. And a"holy trinity" of personal sickness, school hierarchy dilemma, and musical directing caused her to see the light. 🌟 Yay ! Also fascinating detail was to hear about the anti-vegetarian stance mixed into the blood magic sacrifice of Jesus. Fascinating how much it creates more of a cult atmosphere with each meal. Never heard of that particular view ,and being raised a vegetarian Christian I would of found it abhorrent. Though it makes clear how many varieties of Christianity that are out there. Each judging the other as not up to the true par. Thank you for sharing your story. Best wishes for your future endeavors and yoga teaching ! 🧡💛🧡💛🧡💛🧡💛🧡💛🧡
@FoursWithin 3 күн бұрын
Finally made it to the end of the interview. Love hearing you read your mission statement. 😍
@harmonychilden5326 3 күн бұрын
Wow...thank you for your comment and kind words. It really is amazing how many varieties there are. I'm so happy to be free of all that to live a more purposeful life. And thank you so much for listening to my story. ❤ Ve
@harmonychilden5326 3 күн бұрын
Oh, and the comment about the potential to be a cult leader has seriously made my day😂😂😂😂
@FoursWithin 3 күн бұрын
@@harmonychilden5326 I was a bit concerned 'cult leader' comment might be taken the wrong way or offensively. But I was hedging on the side of someone as intellectually curious, ,open, and honest as yourself would be ok with it one way or the other. So glad to make your day 👍😊
@lanazak773 4 күн бұрын
We do live in a Judeo- Christian western culture, however, and we may not like the alternative.